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I'll take a say hi to people I know offline in order of how I

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see them. Hi, Ron Owens. Hi, Albert. Hello to where's the

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next one I know. Well, trials and Steven I don't I haven't

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met you in person. Michelle Ford. I know you know, Amy. Hi.

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anybody else. Julie three. Julie three. She's not on my screen

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right now. She's on the next week is there's 30 people on the

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So I'm sorry about that. I was late for once. I'm usually about

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two minutes late. But tonight I'm 10 minutes late. And thanks

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to Zahriah. I'm I was alerted to the fact that neither I was

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here or Charles so so Charles doesn't usually miss but of

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course it's five o'clock in the morning for him.

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I did I slept I slept in so anyway that's as I say in the

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classics as they say in the classics SH1T happens and away

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we go. All right, let's get this. Let's get this show

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happening. So welcome everybody to medical doctors for COVID

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ethics international. And today's meeting these meetings

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and this group was started by Stephen Frost in 2021. A British

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trained medical doctor who's based in Wales the champion

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truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health in the face of global

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challenges. I'm Charles Coviss your moderator here in Melbourne,

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Australia. I was a lawyer for 20 years and 33 years ago I changed

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career to be a professional speaker and a passion provocateur

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I'm also chief executive of an industrial hemp company a group

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is a wide blend of voices from all around the world all sorts

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of professions and all sorts of places. A key strategy of our

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group in our fight is exposing medical crimes rallying behind

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the call of medical truth. Now this call can unite humanity in

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a surge for accountability of those who suppress the truth. So

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what medical truth now need to be properly exposed here some of

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them evidence for which has been clearly demonstrated in these

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meetings. And we urge you to share these truths and share the

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recordings of these meetings. First one vaccines are not safe

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and effective they have seriously harmed millions of

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children globally. Next no vaccines have ever been properly

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tested for safety and efficacy ever in history. All you have to

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do is look at Aaron series book of vaccines. Amen. Next, the

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COVID-19 jabs were unsafe and ineffective and have killed over

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20 million people and injured hundreds of millions more.

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Fourth, there was no COVID pandemic at all. And on it goes

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to the last one is it was a mis- latent misrepresentation to

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claim that you must take the shots to protect your grandma.

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We're in the thick of a global struggle we call it World War

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Three with medical and scientific battles among 12

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battlefronts. The legal battlefront is another one and our

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guest today Alex Meyer is an expert in that legal battlefront.

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We're over six years into this fight with more to come. So

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there's no room for weariness. Stay strong, stay healthy. Our

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meetings go for two and a half hours afterward Tom Rodman hosts

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an optional conversation often on this platform. We'll hear from

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our guest presenter again Alex Meyer. Thank you Alex so much

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for joining us again followed by Q&A. Per tradition, Stephen

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Frost opens the questioning for the first 15 minutes. This is a

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free speech haven. Free speech is our weapon to safeguard human

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liberties. We choose love over fear, fear binds and sickens

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love liberates heals inspires. These twice weekly gatherings are

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far from mere talk. They've birthed real world actions and

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alliances including Jerry, Jerry Waters and me having Guinness

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together in Dublin. So there you are. That wouldn't have

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happened if it wasn't for these meetings. So share any solutions,

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the community. Meetings are recorded and posted on the

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Rumble channel. So we're thrilled to welcome our guest

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presenter Alex Meyer MBA and we value her insights deeply. A

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huge thanks to Stephen Frost for founding this group and for

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organising the speakers and Alex to be with us today. And let me

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give you a bit of background short background could be a much

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longer background. But Alex can tell us all the further salient

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points of her background as she goes along. So Alex in 1996, Alex

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was running a worldwide research group for Apple Inc when she

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got six vaccines for a vacation. Interesting how vaccines and

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vacations both start with VAC. I never thought about that. And

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became disabled. Vaccination vacation. I should start saying

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that. That's vaccination vacation. And became disabled,

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brain damaged and lost her career. Now substantially

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recovered. She's the board chair and president of Free Now

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Foundation, the leading medical freedom law non-profit in

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California. Alex is an in-demand speaker. Yes, Alex, I used to say

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I was an in-demand speaker. That was part of my entry. He's an

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in-demand speaker. He's in demand from creditors. He's in

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demand from jilted lovers. He's in demand from abandoned

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children. But in demand from the sheriff. But anyway, she's

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indeed an in-demand speaker. We're lucky to have her. And her

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lively presentation on a number of topics. One, real ID,

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weaponised architecture. Two, ABV, anything but vaccines. Three,

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the measles manipulation of RFK Junior. Four, the legal how done

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it of COVID. And five, the seven levels of COVID fraud have

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earned her recognition and accolades. Quote, I know women

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in VP positions who do not hold a candle to this woman's

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sunlight. End quote. Stated a commentator on a recent

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interview with Mike Adams. Quote, she gives me hope that

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humanity still lives. End quote. Alex Meyer formerly served on the

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Children's Health Defence Board, co-founded and served as

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chairman of CHD's most successful chapter in California, helping

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raise in excess of $5 million and served on RFK Junior's

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presidential campaign finance committee, raising hundreds of

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thousands for the campaign. In 2022, she won the Golden Bear

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Award and a presentation she gave to Dr. McCollough. Joe

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McCollough was named the best of interview. Alex grew up in the

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Oscar Meyer family and her degrees from Duke, her BA and

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her MBA from Northwestern. So wonderful to have you again,

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Alex. We are in your hands, as I said, you can share your screen

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Thank you very much, Charles.

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Alex, I'd just like to apologise for the mess at the beginning of

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this. It was both our faults and we take full responsibility. So

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I wanted to say also that the people listening to this should

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be aware that you're a great example to everyone in your

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behaviour and everything you do. And, and also the things you do.

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But actually, the way you present yourself is a great example, to

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me and to Charles to kind of, you know, present ourselves in the

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best way, because then people take you seriously. A lot of

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people don't understand this.

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Thank you also to Zahreel, otherwise known as Sebastian, who

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took charge and rang me up and let me know what was happening.

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And I hope that he looked after you.

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Thank you so much again, Stephen. And thank you, Charles, for that

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introduction. I'm sure everybody's heard that before. So

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thanks for suffering through my introduction again, not because

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Charles did it badly. But I know you've all heard it a number of

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times. So, yeah, I today I'm going to talk about the madness

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that's still going on in California. Every time I come on

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here, things get a lot worse. And there's a bunch of Californians

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on this call today, I can see Albert knows a lot about what's

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going on. Julie does, Ronald does, I don't know if Shasta is

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here yet. Michelle Ford is on here. Noemi knows there's a lot

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of people who know what's going on here in California. So feel

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if I missed anybody who's in California, and you're on this

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call, feel free to chime in. I might actually call on some help

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from Albert for some national news about our VAERS system. He

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and I just spoke about that yesterday. It could be very big

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news here. And he's the one on top of that reporting. But we'll

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save that for after the California report. And then Ron

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Owens and Julie Threatt are making a documentary. So I

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wanted to bring them on at the end of this also if that's okay.

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Okay. So, so I'm going to divide this talk into two categories.

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There are six lawsuits happening in California right now. And I

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think as most people here know, to go to school in California, a

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child going through K through 12 school needs more than 30 doses

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of 10 vaccines. And because of a couple bills that became law

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between 2015 and 2019, the personal belief exemption, which

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included religious exemptions was demolished. And then the bill

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that was passed in 2019, basically demolished the medical

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exemption. It's still on the books in California, but it is

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basically inoperable. It's impossible to get a medical

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exemption. Doctors are scared to write them because they have to

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write them under penalty of perjury. They can't write more

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than four other otherwise they'll get investigated. If

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they've had any discipline in the past, or they're under

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investigation, even by the medical board, all of their

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medical exemptions are valid now and forever, even if the

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discipline is resolved, and has nothing to do with writing

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vaccine exemptions. I mean, this is the most draconian

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situation for doctors in California, you can possibly

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imagine. One ray of hope around doctor sovereignty of speech, at

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least, was that my group, when we were known as Children's

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Health Defense, Health Defense, California, we're now known as

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Free Now Foundation, we filed a lawsuit against AB 2098. And

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that was what we call the Dr. Gag Order Bill. And we were able

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to make Newsom run for the hills, because they were trying

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to gag speech around COVID shots. And what Newsom realized

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because of our lawsuit is that we were going to appeal that to

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the Supreme Court on the basis of doctors having First

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Amendment rights to free speech. And what happened is that he

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didn't want that lawsuit to go to the Supreme Court. He did not

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want a decision protecting doctor free speech. And so what

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he did is he did a runaround and he went back to his

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legislature, he made them introduce a bill to undo AB 209

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free speech back for doctors around COVID shots. So lawsuits

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do work. They are not always as quick and successful as that

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one. In fact, they're usually very slow. And I'm going to

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tell you about some very slow lawsuits today. But I'm also

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going to tell you about why they're offering a lot of hope.

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about the doctor side. On the family side, it's really hard to

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find a doctor who's willing to write a medical exemption in

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California for the reasons I just told you about. If they do

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find a doctor willing to write a medical exemption, that doctor

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has to register with a system that's what we call the anti

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anti-vaxxer database, although now it contains all the

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children's vaccine records. If a doctor has electronic medical

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record systems, the doctor has to register for this anti-vaxxer

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database called care me California immunization

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registry dash medical exemption. That medical exemption then

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licensed medical doctor, supposedly at our Department of

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Public Health intervenes, the state intervenes and decides

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whether or not that medical exemption is valid. And they

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overturn the I only know one surviving medical exemption

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that's gone through that process. And it was written by

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a Stanford medical doctor. And it was based on not a medical

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issue, but a psychological issue that the child is fearful of

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vaccinations. And I'm shocked that that one made it through the

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system, but that's the only one I know of that still stands

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right now. The Department of Health then enters into the

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system their decision, which is that that medical exemption is

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denied. And then the school looks up the child's name in the

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database, if they've applied for medical exemption, then the

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school sees that the Department of Health has intervened,

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turned over the medical exemption. And then the school

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is charged with policing the situation and enforcing it. And

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so the school's job is to tell the family that their child

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cannot go to school there. And in one very extreme situation

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of this in Ventura County, this is actually a plaintiff in one

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of our lawsuits. This mother took her child to school three

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times after his medical exemption was denied by the

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Department of Public Health. The second and third time she went

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there, she had it witnessed and she recorded it. She is bringing

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her child to school. Well, that wasn't good enough for the

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school. They marched her and her son right to the principal's

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office and said that they had to leave because he did not have

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vaccines. So then the school turned things around on her and

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in a catch-22 situation, they accused this poor mother of

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truancy. Truancy is a could be a misdemeanor charge that carries

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six months of jail time. And it's just shocking what they did

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to this poor mother. So enter our board member, medical

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doctor, Dr. Richard Fox, who's also an attorney. And he he

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swooped in and was able to get the D.A. in Ventura County to

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back off and say they were no longer going to press charges

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regarding truancy. So that mother right now is safe from

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the truancy charges. However, her son has been out of school

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for a year and a half now. And he's not doing homeschool because

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she and her husband both work full time. So she's a very

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important plaintiff in our lawsuit. And she's actually

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plaintiff on a religious exemptions lawsuit that I'm

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going to tell you about as well. So that's the situation in

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California. That's why it's so important that we try to attack

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this both through the courts and legislatively. But I'm going to

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tell you what happened in the legislature with a bill that was

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supposed to change the situation this year. It's pretty grim. But

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before I go on and tell you about the solutions that are in

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process, does anybody have any questions or comments about the

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Wow. Well, I'm just all everything that you've been

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saying just goes, I'm out of here. Yeah. I don't know why

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anyone would stay there and if there should be a mass exit of

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doctors, but it's remarkable still, that so many doctors

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stay in the environment and including in Australia, where

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there are 100,000 doctors and I would and the doc, the number of

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doctors who join Ian Brighthope's group amps,

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Australian Medical Professional Society is an alternative to the

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AMA is less than 2000. Alex, it's just it's just incredible. So

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similarly, I just can't believe doctors stay in California.

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I don't know how that happens.

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Alex, I so this is I'm absolutely amazed that doctors

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can stay in that environment and why they can't push back. So I

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would suggest that you that you form a document, a short

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document, which would be suitable to publish as a letter,

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an open letter in a newspaper in California, so that the

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population knows that this is not normal outside California,

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and put them on notice essentially, because otherwise,

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if no one gets hold of this, what they're doing, for example,

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I noticed you said that there were four exemptions allowed.

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Where does the four come from? That's arbitrary. I mean, it

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can't be justified. So but these this kind of thing needs, you

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need to educate the public through open letters in

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that that's the barrier.

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Oh, you can always find good people everywhere. So we found we

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we did the David Kelly thing by letters in letters to the editor

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in The Guardian and the New Statesman. And so we changed

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public opinion, even though the government denied the inquest,

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which we officially saw through lawyers. But that was a vehicle

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to to change public opinion, if you like. So you have to be what

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essentially you need to do is educate the public through the

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newspapers, and the threat of those open letters will bring

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the whole system down.

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I agree. I agree. Yeah, we just have to work on finding those

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friendlies. And we've been we've been working on it. But yeah,

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that would make a huge difference even even op eds. I

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So I can help you with that if you like, because I know how to

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do the letters because we did it in the David Kelly case. And

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that was really important to the United Kingdom over the Iraq war,

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you know, so they really wanted to kill us off, but they

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couldn't because we were doctors.

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We were saying that the official verdict of suicide by Lord

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Hutton was not possible that he couldn't have been suicide by

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the method they stated. And so the public believed us and not

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the government essentially.

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That's incredible. Okay, well, that's that's super

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inspirational and, and doable just as long as we find those

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friendlies.

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Absolutely. And you can always find good journalists. We found

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one we found the deputy, essentially the deputy editor of

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the Guardian. He was on our side. And he said he saw a

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submission of ours, kind of essay. And then he said, Can

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you turn this round into into a short letter in 24 hours? And we

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did. Seamus Milne was his name. He was the son of Alistair

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Milne, who was the former director general of the BBC,

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believe it or not. And he later became chief of staff for

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Jeremy Corbyn. He was absolutely brilliant. And he was fearless.

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Wow. Okay, thank you. Thanks, Stephen for the idea and the

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inspo.

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Alex, Alex, if I could add, you know, our medicine passed our

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defense criminals many, many years ago as the biggest public

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funds. And I think California has been become a magnet for

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these criminal people who are sucking off the public money. I

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mean, absolutely no place like California in the world.

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No. Well, and I'm going to tell you about some legislation that

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favors the criminals, not the ones who are trying to find the

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criminals. It's it's so nuts. It's so nuts here. I know

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Michelle is really involved in this also. Michelle, do you have

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anything to add to what I said about the medical exemption

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scheme?

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Thank you so much, Alex. Okay, yeah, no, you you really nailed

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it. The it's a complete and total fraud. And I'm at the

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point now where I'm wondering why we're fighting so hard to

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keep kids in these indoctrination center schools.

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At some point, we're going to have to figure out an entirely

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different way of educating our kids because the system is

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designed to completely mind suck them and turn them into zombie

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robot, you know, people who are confused about their bodies and

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all of the things and so it's just a very egregious system. And

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but you you nailed it. Thank you, Alex, you're doing a

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phenomenal job.

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Oh, thanks, Michelle. Thanks for being here. Thank you. So let

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me just finish off on the laws then that have created this just

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bizarre, surreal situation in California. In the fall, I'm

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struggling to remember the name of the bill. Michelle or one of

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the other California people probably remembers but there was

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a bill passed very quickly in the fall shoved through the

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legislature. And what that did is it established a different

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California vaccination schedule than the CDC recommended one. So

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that California schedule now has more than 90 doses of 17

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vaccines, including COVID shots, this COVID shot is an annual

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shot. So that's 18 more shots on top of the 72 that were

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recommended by the CDC. And so they cut out CDC and ACIP

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guidance and now they're taking guidance mostly from the AAP,

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which is obviously compromised, it gets a good portion, not a

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majority of their funding, but a good portion of their funding

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from pharmaceutical companies. That's the American Academy of

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Pediatrics. And there's something other significant

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something else really significant about that bill. I'll

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remember it later. But I mean, that's bad enough. The really

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important thing to remember about the California schedule is

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that pediatricians are going to be pushing this California

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recommended schedule onto children. And that's again,

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that's 90 doses of 17 vaccines, but they'll never advise a

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parent that the shots required for school are significantly

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less than that. That, you know, as I said earlier, for school

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requirement, it's more than 30 doses of 10 vaccines, but those

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pediatricians are going to push everything onto these poor

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children without letting them know that not all of them are

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required for school, which I think is criminal. Then later,

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after this horrible bill passed, cutting out, cutting out the

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CDC, oh, I know that here's the other really important thing

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about that bill from the fall is that doctors, even in the case

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of omission, are not liable for vaccine injuries. So you know

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what that does? That obliterates the need for informed consent.

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There is no legalized way to provide informed consent in a

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pediatrician's office in California anymore because of

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the that bill that became law, because even in the case of

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omission, they cannot be sued. It's completely crazy. So then

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after after that craziness happened, then

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Excuse me, Alex.

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Julie posted in the in the chat was an AB 144. You're trying to

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remember?

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Thank you. That was AB 144.

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That's what Julie posted.

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Thank you, Julie. And thank you, Ron. Yeah, that was AB

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144. So you guys can go look that up. That became law. And

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then in January, the United States, pull officially pulled

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out of the WHO. And the next day, Gavin Newsom announced

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that he has a new alliance with the WHO that California is

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contracted into. And guess what? It doesn't cost us anything.

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It's with this alliance called Gorn, Global Outbreak and Alert

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Response Network that's part of the WHO. And you know, in the

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event of an outbreak, let's say like hantavirus, then we could

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get advice from the WHO, we could get supplies from the WHO

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that taxpayers would have to pay for, we could get help from the

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WHO and WHO officials could come here and help lock us down and

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contact trace us and make sure we're social distancing and all

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these other things that we really didn't like very much in

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2020 and 2021. All at California taxpayer expense. But it's free

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right now. It's free to be a member. But when the next

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pandemic happens, and California locks in with Gorn and the WHO,

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we're going to be paying for all this stuff we don't even want.

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So we're paying for our captors again. Okay, then I'm just going

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to keep going on legislation. So those are all the things that

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have passed. Now there's there's another bill sitting in our

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legislature right now. This one's called AB 2651. And I call

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this the Stasi Snitch Culture Bill. And what this bill wants

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to do is notify parents if the vaccination vaccination rates at

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their school for each of these 10 vaccines that are required

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goes below a certain threshold. And right now it's an undisclosed

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undisclosed threshold to be decided later after this becomes

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law by the Department of Public Health. So they might decide that

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the threshold is 99% for certain infections, they might decide

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it's 90% for certain infections, we don't know. But

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what's going to happen is that this every parent at the school

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is going to get a notice that their school doesn't meet the

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standard for measles. 90 only 98% of students here are

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vaccinated for measles. So who are the 2% of holdouts now at a

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small school that could be one child. And I know most parents

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are not completely tight lipped about their vaccination stance

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at school. So what this is going to do is it's going to turn the

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school into this stasi snitch culture, where parents are going

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to go going to go after parents who they think are making them go

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below that standard that they all want to get to. And I think

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children are going to turn on children also. And there's going

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to be bullying of the children that are known to be

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unvaccinated. And so this bill is just flying through the

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legislature right now. It's not law, but it's flying through.

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Now another bill was actually a really good bill. This was

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introduced by a Republican, Senator Jones, and it actually

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had a few democratic co authors, which is really interesting. We

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didn't think there'd be any Democrats on our side. And this

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was a bill SB 1377. It was alive for about a week in the

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California legislature. This was a bill designed to protect the

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medical exemption and protect the doctors writing them. It was

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going to get rid of the anti vaxxer database. It was just

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going to require just any old note from a doctor that this

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child is unfit for vaccination. And that was that. And

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unfortunately, the sponsor of the bill is my friend Amy Bond of

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Perk, Protection of Educational Rights for Kids. That's her

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organization. And she felt going into this health committee

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hearing that it was going to pass the health committee, she

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was actually really excited that this was going to keep moving in

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the legislature. But behind the scenes, one of the key people on

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the health committee had promised her a vote in favor of

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this bill. But behind the scenes, the same person was

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actually working with other people to vote against it. And

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that that legislator ended up killing the bill that way by

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playing both sides and working people behind the scenes. So

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that lasted a full week in the legislature. So right now, we

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are still where we are with a non functioning medical

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exemption in California. So basically, de facto mandatory

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vaccination for children to go to school with the 30 plus doses

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of 10 vaccines. It's just it's it's a it's criminal. So oh, oh,

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and it gets worse. You didn't you didn't think it could get

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any worse in California. But in January, a bill that was passed

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last year has to do with a new caretaker law. This is AB 495.

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AB 495 was passed last year became law in January, as I

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said, and this bill was designed to protect migrant children

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whose parents couldn't be located so they could be enrolled

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in a school district and be attached to a resident and be

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attached to a caretaker. Well, guess what, this bill is written

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so broadly and so sloppily that there's a caretaker form that

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literally anyone can fill out. They don't require any

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identification. They don't require any any background

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checks. They don't require any check of the safety of the home

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a child might go to. And literally anyone who just says,

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Oh, I'm a distant relative of this child can swoop in and

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become your child's caretaker. Even if you're the parent, even

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if you're the guardian, someone can swoop in and become this

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caretaker. Now, that caretaker under this law, and this is law

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right now, they are authorized to to get your child any medical

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or psychological treatment they want on a school site. They could

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even take your child out of state and move your child out of

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state. So think about divorce situations where there's a

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really contentious divorce, and one parent wants to move their

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child out of state, they could fill out this caretaker form.

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And it could override any parent parental agreements about not

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taking the child out of the state. And they could legally

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take the child out of state using this form. And it's

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literally like a page and a half, you just check some boxes,

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yes, I'm a distant relative, and this is the child's new

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address. And that's that. It's it's absolutely insane that the

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state keeps trying to come between parent and child again,

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and again, and again. Now, I just work on issues related to

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medical issues and forced vaccination. But, you know, the

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state is coming in and doing this. Also with like all the

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gender issues. I don't know if you know this, but in California,

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if a child wants to go by a different name or a different

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sex while they're at school, the school and the teachers are

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not allowed to notify the parents about that if the child

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doesn't want the parents to know. Now, this is going to kind

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of shift us into the lawsuits portion of this. What happened,

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there was a case called Mirabelli versus Bonta. Rob

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Bonta is our attorney general running for governor in

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California. And that made it to the Supreme Court. Now the

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Mirabelli case and said that that was unconstitutional and

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parents absolutely have to be notified if their child is

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having psychological issues like gender dysphoria, going by a

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different name or going by a different sex at school. And so

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the Ninth Circuit Court is going to reconsider that now with the

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kick in the pants or quote unquote guidance from the Supreme

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Court. But it's just, I don't even have the words for what's

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going on here. Literally just trying to separate parent from

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child sticking the state in between every chance they get.

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They want to medicalize your child as an excuse to take the

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parents away. And I think that's where the long term trend is

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going. So, okay, how depressing is that?

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Okay, I'm gonna tell you, Alex, I just want to say this is great

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stuff. Because all of this stuff in California, that all this

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shit is coming to Oregon. Thank you.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is. I mean, excuse my French, but, you know,

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California, Oregon and Washington, I collectively call

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those states fuck Tartistan. Oh, hi, Vera. Okay, glad people

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are laughing at that one. I'm always nervous to say that word.

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It's appropriate.

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People always laugh.

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Very appropriate.

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Yeah, Alex. I think the best tactic is maybe to tell the

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public, the Californian public, that this is not normal in other

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states. And it's certainly not normal in other countries.

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No, it's not normal. It's not. And I actually have a slide I'm

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going to show you next about how abnormal things are in

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California and the other blue states. I did a lot of research

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on this very recently and wrote an article about it. I'm going

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to show you just how abnormal this all is. But first, I want

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to tell you about one more horrific bill. This is another

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bill with the author Mia Bonta, who is Rob Bonta, Attorney

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General Rob Bonta's wife. She's the author of the Stasi Snitch

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Culture bill also, but she's the author of a bill called the Nick

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Shirley bill, the Stop Nick Shirley Act. Does everybody know

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who Nick Shirley is? He's the 20 something Mormon young man

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who's going around exposing the fraud, especially he started

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with the Somalis in Minnesota with the quote unquote learning

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or leering centers and the driving services. And then he

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came to California is doing the same thing. So this bill, the

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Stop Nick Shirley Act is the colloquial name for it. It aims

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to stop people like Nick Shirley from exposing fraud and aims to

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protect the fraudsters. Again, Mia Bonta, wife of Attorney

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General Rob Bonta is the author. Craziness. Okay, so let me show

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you a slide. And if anybody has any discussion before I show you

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this summary slide of how bills move, this is a good time to do

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that. And then after this, I'll switch to lawsuits.

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I have a question, Alex. Yeah, I was wondering, how's the how's

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the environment for homeschoolers there? Are they also

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being attacked, like in a similar manner?

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Not yet. Michelle might know more than I do. But I don't

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believe they've been attacked yet. We do anticipate there'll be

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a bill to make homeschooling a lot more difficult or come after

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homeschoolers for vaccination as well.

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Let's see.

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Okay, here's my here's my slide. I'm going to share my screen.

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Who asked that question? I didn't catch that.

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Hi, it's me, Nate.

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I'm sorry.

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Nate.

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Nate. Sorry, I don't know who Nate is.

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Oh, I asked the question.

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Aaron.

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Okay. So I have a whole presentation about the measles

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con. I just gave it yesterday to Mickey Willis. But let me see

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if I can make this bigger. Can you still see that slide?

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Yep.

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What says the outbreak catalyst? Okay, so I started to

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get really suspicious about measles and how quickly

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legislation was introduced after a measles case hits a blue

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state. And I did some research and it turns out then when that

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when measles hits red states, the legislators do nothing.

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They do nothing. But blue states, they they get into gear

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very, very quickly on average from the first case of measles

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in California in 2015, Washington in 2019, New York in

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2019, Connecticut in 2021, and then the United States in

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2019, Connecticut in 2021, California now in 2026. On

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average, it's about 30 days to introduce a bill to take away

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parental rights around vaccination. And this doesn't

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happen in red states. And the other wild thing about

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California is that a bill to take away parental rights around

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vaccination on average moves twice as fast as any other bill

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that's ever gone through our legislature. Twice as fast. So

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this is just a little schematic I had an AI engine do for me

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after I did a ton of research to show the path from a first

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case to an outbreak declared to a bill to these things being

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signed into law. Now in a couple East Coast blue states,

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Connecticut and Maine, there was not an outbreak in their

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state. But they reference the outbreaks on the west coast as

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a reason why they had to introduce their measles bill.

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And take vaccination rights away from parents. So isn't

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that lovely? Does anybody have any questions on that?

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Well, yeah, I agree with you. So Alex, I think the way you're

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presenting this making fun of them is the style that you

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should adopt when you're writing to the newspapers. But

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actually, you can say that this is hilarious on the one hand,

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but it's very serious on the other. You can point that out.

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And we can, you know, we can strategize and think about what

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the key points are that we want to get over to the public.

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Yeah, if, yeah, if this were a sitcom, it would be tragically

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funny. And it's not a sitcom. So, all right. So obviously, in

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blue states, we can't use the legislature. Red States is a

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different story. My friend Leslie Manoukian with Health

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Freedom Defense Fund, you all know who she is, right? She's

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probably been on here. Yes, she has. She's fantastic. So she

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introduced a bill, Idaho Red State, to protect medical

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freedom. And there can be no forced medicine of any kind,

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including vaccines on anyone in Idaho. I think there's a might

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be a carve out still for medical workers that they're still

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working on, but basically blanket protection against

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forced vaccination. So I applaud her. That's going to work in

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red states, but that's not going to work in a blue state

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like California, as we've just seen. So the only way to do

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this in blue states is to use the courts. So that's what my

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nonprofit Free Now Foundation is doing. And right now, there

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are actually six lawsuits that I'm aware of in California that

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are trying to fix the situation. There's three approaches. One

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is to restore the religious exemption, which was taken away

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in 2015. Another one is to expand the medical exemption.

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That's our case. And then the third one is to end mandates

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altogether. And I can't tell you how many times I've said that

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our case to end mandates will end mandates. And people don't

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get it in their head that that means there wouldn't be a need

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for an exemption. You don't have to go seeking an exemption.

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You don't have to have heartache on whether or not your

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exemption will be accepted. You don't have to pay for an

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exemption. If there's no mandates, there's no need for

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exemptions. So the third strategy, that's our case around

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that is the big hammer. We want to end the mandates entirely.

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And we believe we can do that with this lawsuit. It is so

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strong. And I'm going to tell you about that more in detail,

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but I'm first going to go through the other two strategies

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first, because our case to end mandates is a little bit more

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involved. So first of all, there's actually the strategy one

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is to bring back the religious exemption. And the exciting news

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about that is there are four religious exemption lawsuits

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that I know of in California right now, actually know of five,

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but there's four right now sitting with the Ninth Circuit

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Court. They are deliberating. They've already had the

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hearings two weeks ago. I listened to the hearings live in

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our Ninth Circuit Court when they heard these four religious

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exemption cases. They are all resting on two amendments,

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obviously the First Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment

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right to parent your minor and to make all decisions for your

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minor. Now, what's really interesting about those religious

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exemption cases, you guys remember when I talked about the

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Mirabelli case, Mirabelli versus Bonta, which went to the

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0:39:27 --> 0:39:[ADDRESS REDACTED]. And then that was kicked back to the Ninth

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0:39:32 --> 0:39:[ADDRESS REDACTED] by the Supreme Court saying, hey, you got this

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wrong. Based on the First and Fourteenth Amendments, parents

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absolutely have the right to direct the upbringing of their

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child. They have the right to know what sex they're going to

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be seen as at school, and they have the right to know what name

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these children are going by, and they have the right to know if

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these children are considering changing their sex or their

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gender, I guess that would be. I'm all confused about the

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terminology, forgive me. So interestingly enough, because

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that case was remanded back to the Ninth Circuit Court,

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affirming the First and the Fourteenth Amendments, these

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four religious exemption cases have wind in their sails

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because of that. The Ninth Circuit Court does not want to

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keep getting rebuked by the Supreme Court, so there's

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pressure there for the Ninth Circuit to actually rule in

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favor of these religious exemption cases. I think three

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of them have a fighting chance, and one of those religious

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exemption cases called Grimsby probably has the best chance of

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winning in the Ninth Circuit Court. Now, they're going to

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issue their decision this year, so this is super exciting. I'm

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getting chills just hearing myself say this, but if the

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0:40:41 --> 0:40:[ADDRESS REDACTED] rules in favor of one of those religious

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exemption cases, this year California children could have a

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religious exemption again. That would be absolutely huge. If

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they don't and they risk being rebuked again by the Supreme

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Court, then I'm sure probably all of those cases will appeal

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to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court will most

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certainly grant a win in 2027, and I'm sure that the Ninth

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0:41:07 --> 0:41:[ADDRESS REDACTED] knows that. I'm going to share my screen because

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I'm going to explain something really interesting about these

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cases. Hold on, let me pull up a different screen to share. The

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really interesting thing about these religious exemption cases

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is that it all depends on what standard the Ninth Circuit

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Court wants to use to grant the win or not grant the win, so

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there we go. I'm going to share this screen with you. This is

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another article I wrote here. Okay, so here's the article. It

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says, will California students have a religious exemption this

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year or next? It all hinges on a judicial standard of review at

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the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, and the two yardsticks

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that this court could use, one is called rational basis review,

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and then there's the highest one called strict scrutiny. There's

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actually three levels. There's one called heightened scrutiny

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that's in the middle, but that's not on the table here. All the

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religious exemption lawyers for the plaintiffs are arguing that

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they should apply strict scrutiny, but of course the

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state wants the Ninth Circuit Court to apply rational basis

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review. Rational basis review is basically like, hey, the law

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says there's no religious exemptions, so they don't get a

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religious exemption. Strict scrutiny would come in.

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Alex, can you, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Can you tell us who is, so

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clearly there's a big push against us, you know, and people

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like us, and they're pushing everywhere and in the hope that

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people will be overwhelmed, I suppose, but who are the people

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who are pushing it, do you think, who are keeping, thinking

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of all these fraudulent means of getting people to do what they

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want, you know? Who are they? Well, historically, Republicans

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were always the darlings of industry because they're the

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ones who supported like the oil and gas industry, and they got

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most of the lobbying dollars for their campaigns, and then

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I think it was the late 1990s, if I'm not mistaken, that

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pharmaceutical companies figured out that they could woo

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Democrats with their dollars, and so the Democrats are very

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dependent now on pharmaceutical dollars to get campaign funding,

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so this is really coming from the Democrats because of the

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funding they get from pharmaceutical companies, because

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they were kind of dead in the water in terms of influence until

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they got that, and now they're wielding their power. I mean, you

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can just tell by, you know, like when the health committee

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questions Bobby Kennedy, you can tell by the height of the

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meltdown by people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie

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Sanders, that correlates almost 100% with how much pharma

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funding they've received. It's crazy.

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Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren is just a nutcase, in my

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opinion. Well, so is Bernie Sanders.

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Totally.

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So in Oregon, the worst are these medicos slash legislators

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saving the lives of children, not only Oregonian children,

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children all over the planet, these lunatic ideologues

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saving the, yeah, parents don't know enough about their kids.

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They need to, the state needs to get in there with their, yeah.

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We're talking about California now.

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We're talking about California, not a general problem around

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the world. California is unique.

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California is unique. We're showing you what's to come in

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all the other states right here. Is it too much detail for me

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to explain strict scrutiny?

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No, it's very good.

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Okay. So what our lawyers are trying to argue, not mine, the

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religious exemption cases are not free now foundation cases,

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they're excellent cases brought by other groups.

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So strict scrutiny, first, the government has to prove two

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things. First, that it has a compelling interest, basically a

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life or death necessity. And second, that its law is

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narrowly tailored using the least restrictive means possible.

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So I'm just going to read this because it's somewhat

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complicated. And then I've got an example below. So narrowly

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tailored under strict scrutiny, a law is considered to be

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narrowly tailored if it's precisely crafted to achieve

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the government's compelling interest without being overly

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broad or unnecessarily burdening constitutional rights,

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meaning it targets the specific problem in a focused way rather

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than using a blunt sweeping approach. It also has to be least

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restrictive. And that demands that among all available

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alternatives that that would equally advance the compelling

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governmental interest, which is mass vaccination. In this case,

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the government must choose the one that imposes the smallest

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possible burden on the protected right, such as religious

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freedom. And if any less burdensome option exists, the law

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fails strict scrutiny. So if strict scrutiny applies the

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state's argument that it must exclude a tiny group of

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religious children really starts to look absurd. Just to give

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everybody an idea of how many people would be eligible for a

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religious exemption. Back in 2015, when we had the personal

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belief exemption that included religious exemptions, only two

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and a half percent of students exercised a personal belief

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exemption. And probably only obviously a subset of those were

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the religious exemption people. So we're not looking at a huge

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group here. And just because like 100% of people would be

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entitled to a religious exemption, obviously not everybody

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is going to take it. In 2015, it was only two and a half percent

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of people with the personal belief exemption. So here's where

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it gets really interesting. So this is where the current law

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fails strict scrutiny. There is a glaring double standard. And

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this is an argument that the languages that they can brook

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no opt out. So if you think of like a babbling brook, and you

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think of like how many like when a brook tees off and it becomes

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like one, two brooks basically, that brook that tees off has to

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be really, really tiny from the main brook. And so what the

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lawyers are arguing here is that this brook breaks into two,

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but both sides of the brook are actually pretty big. So this,

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so basically having no religious exemption does fail strict

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scrutiny. And let me explain what it is. So here's the double

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standard. There are five other categories of unvaccinated

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people in the school system. So this is like the other branch

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of the brook right here. It's pretty big. Every IEP student

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doesn't have to have a medical exemption. So that's about

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almost 15% of our students now are so learning disabled that

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they need somebody in the classroom to help them learn.

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That's what an IEP is. It's called an individualized

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education plan. So that brook is already 15% of the school

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community right there entitled to exercise the right to not get

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vaccinated with no need for a medical exemption. In the school

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system, about 10% of the people mixing with the children are

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adults, including teachers. They just have a vaccine

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recommendation. They don't have a mandate. They can, they

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don't have to prove anything. So that's another 10%. So that's,

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so this side of the brook gets big now. So that's 15% of kids

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with an IEP plus 10% of teachers. That's 25% in this new brook

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tributary. It's getting kind of big here. Any student, maybe a

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junior or senior who's turned 18, doesn't have to have a

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medical exemption, can go to school. That's probably very

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small percentage. Let's give that 1%. Let's give the students

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an independent study, another 1% or 2%, I don't know, because

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they don't need to have a medical exemption. They can have,

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they can go and do on school activities without vaccines

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because they're in independent study. And finally, there are

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students in school who have a vaccination plan with a 30-day

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grace period. So let's say almost 30% of people at any one

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time could be in school without vaccination legally if they

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want to be. 30% of the school community. So that's not

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narrowly tailored. This law that there's basically no religious

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exemption, no medical exemption, does not apply equally to

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everyone. There's a 30% size brook teeing off of the main

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brook of people who are subjected to the mandates. So

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this is why the lawyers are saying this fails strict

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scrutiny. So, and by the way, that 10% of adults in the school

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community that doesn't have to have vaccines if they don't

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want to, that's more than a half million people mixing with

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the students. I mean, this is not, these are not small fringe

800
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groups. And then just finally, the other thing you might want

801
0:50:10 --> 0:50:12
to know about this case is that the panel at the Ninth Circuit

802
0:50:12 --> 0:50:15
Court deciding on these religious exemption cases is

803
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three judges. There's one Callahan appointed by Bush,

804
0:50:18 --> 0:50:22
Bumate appointed by Trump. So those are two conservative

805
0:50:22 --> 0:50:28
judges and Pérez appointed by Joe Biden. So that also is in

806
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our favor that there are two judges appointed by Republicans.

807
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So does anybody have any questions about those religious

808
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exemption lawsuits? Vera? Vera does.

809
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Wait, you're on mute.

810
0:50:45 --> 0:50:55
I really think that a lot of these games that are forced to

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be played by people is really, you know, I mean, you're forcing

812
0:51:01 --> 0:51:05
people to lie, to say they're religious if that's the only way

813
0:51:06 --> 0:51:11
out. And you're on and on and on giving, you know, escape

814
0:51:11 --> 0:51:15
loops for clever lawyers to put together.

815
0:51:16 --> 0:51:22
That's why really Leslie Mnuchin's law in Idaho takes

816
0:51:22 --> 0:51:26
care of the whole shebang, just throws it all off the table.

817
0:51:26 --> 0:51:32
No medical mandates, which means no government interference

818
0:51:32 --> 0:51:37
in medical treatment between doctor and patient. That's

819
0:51:37 --> 0:51:41
really what I think we need to go after. That's what we really

820
0:51:41 --> 0:51:45
need to focus on. Because until we get that and unless we get

821
0:51:45 --> 0:51:51
that, we're little slaves. I agree. Well, you'll be happy to

822
0:51:51 --> 0:51:54
know that we have a lawsuit that will end the mandates. And it's

823
0:51:54 --> 0:51:56
the only way it's going to work in blue states. So we're going

824
0:51:56 --> 0:52:00
to set the template to do what Leslie did in blue states. But

825
0:52:00 --> 0:52:02
instead of using the legislature, we're using the

826
0:52:02 --> 0:52:04
courts. But I'm saving that one for last.

827
0:52:05 --> 0:52:08
Vera, the mandates are also in violation of the Nuremberg

828
0:52:08 --> 0:52:13
Code. I think you'd probably agree. Absolutely. And the

829
0:52:13 --> 0:52:16
Nuremberg Code should be mentioned in the letters.

830
0:52:16 --> 0:52:20
Oh, definitely. And uniquely, California, not every state has

831
0:52:20 --> 0:52:24
this, but in our health and safety code, the Nuremberg Code

832
0:52:24 --> 0:52:30
is actually codified into our law. That's funny. Because it's

833
0:52:30 --> 0:52:32
in the law, but we don't pay attention to it.

834
0:52:32 --> 0:52:37
Well, the thing about the Nuremberg Code, it was intended

835
0:52:37 --> 0:52:40
to be indirigible because it, of course, it was all about the

836
0:52:41 --> 0:52:46
Nuremberg trials of the doctors trial. And that was about human

837
0:52:46 --> 0:52:50
medical experimentation. So the whole thing about the Nuremberg

838
0:52:50 --> 0:52:55
Code was to stop human medical experimentation. And the

839
0:52:55 --> 0:53:00
prosecutors in the doctors trial were American. They were

840
0:53:00 --> 0:53:06
American prosecutors. And they spent a lot of time forming the

841
0:53:06 --> 0:53:10
Nuremberg Code, which I've told people was intended to be

842
0:53:10 --> 0:53:13
indirigible. But then, of course, the Helsinki agreement

843
0:53:13 --> 0:53:17
and so what else came in, that was to water it down. The

844
0:53:17 --> 0:53:23
Nuremberg Code is what applies. But most American medical

845
0:53:23 --> 0:53:27
institutions, the establishment, and that probably goes for

846
0:53:27 --> 0:53:32
England too, declared the Nuremberg Code they decided was

847
0:53:32 --> 0:53:37
really only for those Nazi animals, but it didn't apply to

848
0:53:37 --> 0:53:37
us.

849
0:53:38 --> 0:53:42
Oh, I think the Nuremberg Code did apply from the people who

850
0:53:42 --> 0:53:45
wrote it. But then other people said that it didn't apply and

851
0:53:45 --> 0:53:46
that was wrong.

852
0:53:46 --> 0:53:52
Yeah, the AMA, the ones who are essentially being enriched by

853
0:53:52 --> 0:53:55
the pharmaceutical companies and it's government together with

854
0:53:55 --> 0:53:59
the industry. It's not separate. And Nuremberg Code put the

855
0:53:59 --> 0:54:05
emphasis on doctors, put the doctors responsible for decisions

856
0:54:05 --> 0:54:07
for individual patients.

857
0:54:07 --> 0:54:12
Absolutely. It's a brilliant document, which you should quote,

858
0:54:12 --> 0:54:15
you should spend a letter just describing the Nuremberg Code

859
0:54:15 --> 0:54:16
to the Californian public.

860
0:54:17 --> 0:54:17
Yeah.

861
0:54:19 --> 0:54:22
Just have a look at it tonight. Alex, it doesn't take long to

862
0:54:22 --> 0:54:23
read it. It's quite short.

863
0:54:24 --> 0:54:24
Yeah.

864
0:54:24 --> 0:54:27
It was brilliantly written by American prosecutors, as I

865
0:54:27 --> 0:54:28
understood it.

866
0:54:29 --> 0:54:35
And actually seven doctors were hanged on the 2nd of June 1948 as

867
0:54:35 --> 0:54:37
a result of the doctors trial.

868
0:54:39 --> 0:54:44
And not that I'm a fan of capital punishment, but yes,

869
0:54:46 --> 0:54:50
sometimes there has to be an example shown to get other human

870
0:54:50 --> 0:54:53
beings to behave, but clearly they've forgotten and they don't

871
0:54:53 --> 0:54:56
hear about the Nuremberg Code. They're terrified of it.

872
0:54:56 --> 0:54:57
That's right.

873
0:54:59 --> 0:54:59
That's true.

874
0:54:59 --> 0:55:01
Okay. We have questions from Zoe and Nate. I do have a little

875
0:55:01 --> 0:55:03
more material to present, but let's go ahead and do a couple

876
0:55:03 --> 0:55:06
of questions because it's a lot of heady stuff.

877
0:55:10 --> 0:55:12
Zoe, your mic's on mute.

878
0:55:15 --> 0:55:15
Hear me now.

879
0:55:16 --> 0:55:17
Yeah.

880
0:55:18 --> 0:55:22
Hi, Alex. I'm so glad that you're here and that I get a chance

881
0:55:22 --> 0:55:25
to talk to you because actually I'm working on the Danielle

882
0:55:25 --> 0:55:29
Alvarez case, Rebecca Charles versus Northwell that Freenow

883
0:55:29 --> 0:55:30
Foundation is sponsoring.

884
0:55:31 --> 0:55:35
While I was watching you literally five seconds ago, you

885
0:55:35 --> 0:55:38
were talking about forced vaccination. They were trying to

886
0:55:38 --> 0:55:40
vaccinate her in the hospital and I just found the

887
0:55:40 --> 0:55:41
documentation of them.

888
0:55:43 --> 0:55:43
Yeah.

889
0:55:44 --> 0:55:47
Wow. I didn't know that that is new information on that case.

890
0:55:47 --> 0:55:50
They also gave her ivermectin, which I just discovered over the

891
0:55:50 --> 0:55:51
last few days.

892
0:55:51 --> 0:55:51
They did.

893
0:55:51 --> 0:55:55
I'm not sure. I found the evidence of that, but I did also

894
0:55:55 --> 0:55:58
have a comment for the Nuremberg trials that most people are not

895
0:55:58 --> 0:56:01
aware of that I feel like I should share since this is

896
0:56:01 --> 0:56:04
international and it's very important because I think

897
0:56:04 --> 0:56:06
they're going to try it again with hantavirus if I'm not

898
0:56:06 --> 0:56:06
mistaken.

899
0:56:09 --> 0:56:11
What people don't know about the Nuremberg trials is that it

900
0:56:11 --> 0:56:14
was actually a farce. I write about this in my book.

901
0:56:14 --> 0:56:18
One of the chief investigators of the Nuremberg trials was

902
0:56:18 --> 0:56:22
himself a participant of the MK Ultra experiments. He himself

903
0:56:22 --> 0:56:27
performed human experimentation in the MK Ultra and then was

904
0:56:27 --> 0:56:31
then prosecuting people in the Nuremberg trials for the same

905
0:56:31 --> 0:56:36
kind of human experimentation, which he himself wasn't part of.

906
0:56:39 --> 0:56:45
The reason why they did that, it was a distraction to prevent

907
0:56:45 --> 0:56:49
America from learning about our participation, the

908
0:56:49 --> 0:56:55
Rockefeller Association, the funding of the fluoride and all

909
0:56:55 --> 0:56:59
kinds of basically Rockefeller funded pharmaceutical

910
0:56:59 --> 0:57:04
bioweapon type experiments that they were doing on people that

911
0:57:04 --> 0:57:08
America was responsible for essentially. I think FDR was

912
0:57:08 --> 0:57:11
trying to shut it down. They had to do something because

913
0:57:11 --> 0:57:14
America was so upset when we learned about the

914
0:57:14 --> 0:57:17
concentration camps. That was their answer. At the end of it,

915
0:57:18 --> 0:57:21
they worked through Operation Paperclip where they actually

916
0:57:21 --> 0:57:23
brought some of the same people that they were trying to

917
0:57:23 --> 0:57:27
prosecute for what they did in Germany to America. They are now

918
0:57:27 --> 0:57:31
in our institutions, in our regulatory institutions and are

919
0:57:31 --> 0:57:33
responsible for some of the policies that you are now talking

920
0:57:33 --> 0:57:34
about.

921
0:57:37 --> 0:57:41
Another important fact that we all also forget, like the

922
0:57:41 --> 0:57:43
Constitution, like the Nuremberg, because I totally

923
0:57:43 --> 0:57:46
believe in everything that we wrote down there, we just don't

924
0:57:46 --> 0:57:51
follow it like the Constitution, we don't follow. The UN actually

925
0:57:51 --> 0:57:57
has an international regulation on human experimentation. The UN

926
0:57:57 --> 0:58:00
itself, which is a part of the WHO, they were together until

927
0:58:00 --> 0:58:04
they split off. They should be following this in every country,

928
0:58:04 --> 0:58:08
not just in America where we have the Nuremberg trials. It was

929
0:58:08 --> 0:58:11
actually an international law, which we ignore just the same as

930
0:58:11 --> 0:58:14
all the others. Unfortunately, I wish that weren't the case.

931
0:58:16 --> 0:58:21
Just to help you educate people about stuff they should know but

932
0:58:21 --> 0:58:22
aren't aware of.

933
0:58:23 --> 0:58:28
I didn't know that at all. Thank you. Okay, Nate, I'm going to

934
0:58:28 --> 0:58:30
be able to hear you, but I need to turn my air conditioning on.

935
0:58:32 --> 0:58:32
Okay.

936
0:58:32 --> 0:58:39
Go ahead. So I was remarking that there was a tremendous

937
0:58:39 --> 0:58:42
use of state resources to enforce vaccine mandates in

938
0:58:42 --> 0:58:48
California. So I was wondering if you or anyone else has

939
0:58:48 --> 0:58:52
explored the efficiency argument, as in measuring the

940
0:58:52 --> 0:58:57
amount of these resources or dollars spent for all this

941
0:58:57 --> 0:59:02
compliance and measuring it versus the health outcomes, like

942
0:59:02 --> 0:59:07
the chronic diseases or even infectious disease rates of

943
0:59:07 --> 0:59:09
other states for their level of expenditures.

944
0:59:10 --> 0:59:15
That's a great idea. We're working on some California type

945
0:59:15 --> 0:59:18
FOIA requests, but they're called Public Records Act

946
0:59:18 --> 0:59:21
requests here. I'll definitely add that. I think it's really

947
0:59:21 --> 0:59:23
important to know how much we're spending on that.

948
0:59:24 --> 0:59:25
Awesome. Thank you.

949
0:59:26 --> 0:59:27
Thanks, Nate.

950
0:59:29 --> 0:59:29
Okay.

951
0:59:30 --> 0:59:31
Alex, keep going.

952
0:59:31 --> 0:59:32
Okay.

953
0:59:32 --> 0:59:36
Just a quick correction. I think I heard Zoe say that the

954
0:59:36 --> 0:59:39
Nuremberg trials were held in Nuremberg. Zoe, they weren't

955
0:59:39 --> 0:59:43
held in the USA. I think maybe it was a slip of the tongue or

956
0:59:43 --> 0:59:43
I misheard.

957
0:59:46 --> 0:59:50
Now, it must have been a slip of the tongue. America likes to

958
0:59:50 --> 0:59:52
talk about it a lot. I'm not sure what they say about it

959
0:59:52 --> 0:59:57
internationally as much, but people think, at least my

960
0:59:57 --> 1:00:00
impression is that Americans think that it should apply to

961
1:00:00 --> 1:00:02
us. I think that's what it's implying.

962
1:00:04 --> 1:00:05
Okay.

963
1:00:06 --> 1:00:10
So thanks, everybody, for your substantial contributions as

964
1:00:10 --> 1:00:15
always. You didn't put me in the hot seat. It's just it gets

965
1:00:15 --> 1:00:17
hot in California this time of day.

966
1:00:18 --> 1:00:19
What's the temperature?

967
1:00:19 --> 1:00:24
I don't know. It's probably 75 or 80.

968
1:00:26 --> 1:00:29
Okay. So I said that there were three legal strategies of how

969
1:00:29 --> 1:00:33
to use the courts in California to start bringing back rights

970
1:00:33 --> 1:00:36
to parents around vaccinations. So I just talked about the one

971
1:00:36 --> 1:00:39
strategy, those religious exemption cases. So there's two

972
1:00:39 --> 1:00:44
more. And the other two are the ones that Free Now Foundation

973
1:00:44 --> 1:00:46
is doing. We're the only group working on these other two

974
1:00:46 --> 1:00:48
strategies right now. And I'm going to save the best for last,

975
1:00:48 --> 1:00:52
which is our due process case to end mandates. But second to

976
1:00:52 --> 1:00:58
last is our case to expand the medical exemption. So you heard

977
1:00:58 --> 1:01:03
me describe all these laws in California that give us

978
1:01:03 --> 1:01:07
basically an inoperable medical exemption. But guess what they

979
1:01:07 --> 1:01:13
left out of the law in 2019 when they destroyed the medical

980
1:01:13 --> 1:01:16
exemption? They were silent on the Americans with Disabilities

981
1:01:16 --> 1:01:21
Act. Now, don't you think someone with an ADA recognized

982
1:01:21 --> 1:01:26
disability would be a candidate for a medical exemption? And so

983
1:01:26 --> 1:01:31
the question we're asking the courts in this lawsuit, well,

984
1:01:31 --> 1:01:36
we're trying to make sure that this is codified, that the ADA

985
1:01:36 --> 1:01:39
disabilities are taken into account. So we're asking the

986
1:01:39 --> 1:01:42
court a very simple question, and you guys are going to all

987
1:01:42 --> 1:01:44
know the answer to this. Nobody has to be a lawyer here to know

988
1:01:44 --> 1:01:49
the answer to this. Are schools subjected to the ADA or not?

989
1:01:51 --> 1:01:55
Do schools have to follow the ADA? No one's exempt from the

990
1:01:55 --> 1:01:59
ADA. Nobody's exempt. They have to they're going to have to

991
1:01:59 --> 1:02:03
admit students who have an ADA disability that that is

992
1:02:03 --> 1:02:06
contraindicated where vaccination is contraindicated.

993
1:02:06 --> 1:02:10
So the beautiful thing about an ADA waiver, as we're calling

994
1:02:10 --> 1:02:13
it, and this is already being pioneered and it's being used

995
1:02:13 --> 1:02:18
already in half of private schools, it's still working,

996
1:02:18 --> 1:02:21
barely any public schools will accept it anymore, but it's

997
1:02:21 --> 1:02:24
still working in about half of private schools. The beautiful

998
1:02:24 --> 1:02:26
thing about this ADA exemption is that somebody can be

999
1:02:26 --> 1:02:30
evaluated by a medical doctor and unlike the medical

1000
1:02:30 --> 1:02:35
exemption code where it has to be a California based doctor,

1001
1:02:35 --> 1:02:37
you can't have a medical exemption written by a doctor

1002
1:02:37 --> 1:02:41
outside of California under the current code. Under the ADA,

1003
1:02:41 --> 1:02:44
you can have an exemption written by anybody in any state

1004
1:02:44 --> 1:02:47
because you can't expect somebody with a very rare

1005
1:02:47 --> 1:02:49
disability to have their specialist in their town or in

1006
1:02:49 --> 1:02:52
their state, right? So first of all, it can be written by any

1007
1:02:52 --> 1:02:57
doctor in the United States or elsewhere. And then because

1008
1:02:57 --> 1:03:00
it's under the ADA, that disability is HIPAA protected.

1009
1:03:00 --> 1:03:04
So all that happens is a child gets evaluated and then right

1010
1:03:04 --> 1:03:07
now lawyers have to write a letter and then that parent

1011
1:03:07 --> 1:03:11
walks the letter to the school and hands it to the quote unquote

1012
1:03:11 --> 1:03:14
governing authority, which is the language and the law of the

1013
1:03:14 --> 1:03:18
person who decides on the medical exemptions or not. And

1014
1:03:18 --> 1:03:21
that should be that. And the disability is ADA protected.

1015
1:03:21 --> 1:03:24
The school doesn't get to ask what it is. They don't get to

1016
1:03:24 --> 1:03:27
know. You don't have to disclose what the disability is. And so

1017
1:03:27 --> 1:03:30
it seems like a perfect solution to broadening the medical

1018
1:03:30 --> 1:03:34
exemption and broadening the number of people who can use

1019
1:03:34 --> 1:03:37
legally use the medical exemption in California. And they

1020
1:03:37 --> 1:03:41
just happen to not mention the ADA in the California law

1021
1:03:41 --> 1:03:45
related to medical exemptions. How about that? So that case is

1022
1:03:45 --> 1:03:49
going really well. I don't know when the first hearing is

1023
1:03:49 --> 1:03:52
scheduled, but we've had the meet and confer with the other

1024
1:03:52 --> 1:03:56
lawyers and we think that case is going to be successful. Now

1025
1:03:56 --> 1:04:00
what I have to say about the religious exemption cases and

1026
1:04:00 --> 1:04:04
this case to broaden the medical exemption to include the ADA is

1027
1:04:04 --> 1:04:07
that none of that's going to matter if this third strategy

1028
1:04:07 --> 1:04:10
that we're working on works. And this is our really big case.

1029
1:04:10 --> 1:04:12
This is our due process case that would end mandates. And we

1030
1:04:12 --> 1:04:16
are alleging five different violations of due process and

1031
1:04:16 --> 1:04:18
the whole medical exemption scheme in California because

1032
1:04:18 --> 1:04:22
there's no due process when the state comes in and denies your

1033
1:04:22 --> 1:04:25
child, your child's medical exemption. There's no real

1034
1:04:25 --> 1:04:27
appeals process. Your child never meets with the doctor.

1035
1:04:28 --> 1:04:32
And and parental rights are trampled in this whole thing.

1036
1:04:32 --> 1:04:35
And then at the end of the whole process, if your child

1037
1:04:35 --> 1:04:38
gets injured by a vaccine, there's no recourse. You can

1038
1:04:38 --> 1:04:43
apply to vaccine court, but half of the cases get kicked out

1039
1:04:45 --> 1:04:49
and the other half can get compensated, but it's inadequate

1040
1:04:49 --> 1:04:53
compensation. It's this hugely lengthy and adversarial

1041
1:04:53 --> 1:04:57
process and the parents, they don't have to pay for the

1042
1:04:57 --> 1:05:00
lawyers. Those are actually paid for by the program, but the

1043
1:05:00 --> 1:05:03
parents have to pay for all the expert witnesses. It's hugely

1044
1:05:03 --> 1:05:07
expensive. Tens of thousands of dollars for expert witnesses

1045
1:05:07 --> 1:05:11
to go through a years long adversarial process against the

1046
1:05:11 --> 1:05:13
government just to get your child compensation for their

1047
1:05:13 --> 1:05:16
injury. There's no due process there for a vaccine that was

1048
1:05:16 --> 1:05:19
forced on your child to access another right, which is the

1049
1:05:19 --> 1:05:23
right to a fair and public education. So that's the, that's

1050
1:05:23 --> 1:05:27
the premise of that case. Now, the other really interesting

1051
1:05:27 --> 1:05:30
aspect of that case, number one, let me just summarize that

1052
1:05:30 --> 1:05:32
again. Number one, we're alleging five different

1053
1:05:32 --> 1:05:36
violations of due process from start to the end of the whole

1054
1:05:36 --> 1:05:41
process, but we're also arguing the harms side of the Jacobson

1055
1:05:41 --> 1:05:46
case. And by that, I mean the 1905 case where the Supreme

1056
1:05:46 --> 1:05:52
Court ruled that smallpox vaccination could be mandated if

1057
1:05:52 --> 1:05:55
in the opinion of the state, the vaccine was safe and

1058
1:05:55 --> 1:05:59
effective. Just the state. That's a different standard than

1059
1:05:59 --> 1:06:01
we have today. Today it's a scientific standard, right? It's

1060
1:06:01 --> 1:06:04
not the state that just decides, oh, well, we think it's safe and

1061
1:06:04 --> 1:06:07
we think it's effective, so therefore you should mandate it.

1062
1:06:07 --> 1:06:11
So our case actually comes in really hard with the data on the

1063
1:06:11 --> 1:06:16
harms, the harms side of Jacobson saying that this, the

1064
1:06:16 --> 1:06:21
scientific standard today is that these vaccines are causing

1065
1:06:21 --> 1:06:24
autism. We actually argue that in the case, which has never

1066
1:06:24 --> 1:06:26
been done before, we're actually arguing that these

1067
1:06:26 --> 1:06:32
vaccines cause SIDS. And to support that, we have various

1068
1:06:32 --> 1:06:36
data and other data showing the temporal relationship between

1069
1:06:36 --> 1:06:40
vaccination and autism and vaccination and SIDS. And it's

1070
1:06:40 --> 1:06:45
just, it's undeniable. And when half, I think it's 80% of SIDS

1071
1:06:45 --> 1:06:48
cases happen within a week of vaccination and 50% of autism

1072
1:06:48 --> 1:06:53
cases happen within one or two days of vaccination, and it's

1073
1:06:53 --> 1:06:57
incontrovertible evidence. That's just, it's beyond

1074
1:06:57 --> 1:07:00
coincidence that those things would be temporally related like

1075
1:07:00 --> 1:07:05
that in that database. So we are trying to disqualify the use of

1076
1:07:05 --> 1:07:10
Jacobson as a reason for the courts to keep deciding in

1077
1:07:10 --> 1:07:12
favor of mandates. So this case is going to accomplish that as

1078
1:07:12 --> 1:07:19
well. When we win, and I hope we do win, and the wins are

1079
1:07:19 --> 1:07:24
looking very favorable, this case would also disqualify

1080
1:07:24 --> 1:07:27
Jacobson, at least the harm side of Jacobson. So judges can

1081
1:07:27 --> 1:07:30
never say, well, the state thinks that the vaccines don't

1082
1:07:30 --> 1:07:34
cause any harm. That would be done when we win this case. The

1083
1:07:34 --> 1:07:39
way this case is going, it's, I've never had a case like this.

1084
1:07:39 --> 1:07:43
I'm not a lawyer, but I've never had a case like this where we

1085
1:07:43 --> 1:07:46
filed a case and it was very broad and then we broke it into

1086
1:07:46 --> 1:07:49
pieces. And then a piece just went to the Ninth Circuit Court

1087
1:07:49 --> 1:07:51
and they told us we have to wait until these religious

1088
1:07:51 --> 1:07:54
exemption cases are decided. But we've also brought on a new

1089
1:07:54 --> 1:07:58
attorney, Scott Street, who's going to join our attorney of

1090
1:07:58 --> 1:08:02
record right now, who's Dr. Richard Fox. And Scott Street

1091
1:08:02 --> 1:08:07
is an appeals court trained attorney. So we're looking at

1092
1:08:07 --> 1:08:10
possibly breaking this case into more pieces and taking a

1093
1:08:10 --> 1:08:14
part of it back down to the federal district court, a piece

1094
1:08:14 --> 1:08:16
of it to the Ninth Circuit Court and possibly even

1095
1:08:16 --> 1:08:20
simultaneously another piece up to the Supreme Court. So it's

1096
1:08:20 --> 1:08:23
very complicated, but, and we're still strategizing about what

1097
1:08:23 --> 1:08:25
we're going to do. We actually have to wait until these

1098
1:08:25 --> 1:08:28
religious exemption cases are decided before we finalize our

1099
1:08:28 --> 1:08:32
strategy on that. But that's where we're going. And I would

1100
1:08:32 --> 1:08:37
expect a decision probably in our favor in 2027. And that

1101
1:08:37 --> 1:08:41
would end vaccine mandates in California. And that would do

1102
1:08:41 --> 1:08:45
two things. It would set a template for other states, blue

1103
1:08:45 --> 1:08:48
states, to follow suit with similar lawsuits. And, you know,

1104
1:08:48 --> 1:08:50
if we got a win in the Supreme Court, that wouldn't have to

1105
1:08:50 --> 1:08:52
happen. We would just win it for all the states in the United

1106
1:08:52 --> 1:08:56
States. The other thing that would happen, that would open

1107
1:08:56 --> 1:08:59
the door for class action lawsuits for all the harm that

1108
1:08:59 --> 1:09:03
these vaccine policies in California have caused. And I'm

1109
1:09:03 --> 1:09:05
talking the harm to the children, the medical harm to

1110
1:09:05 --> 1:09:08
the children, the psychological harm to the children, the

1111
1:09:08 --> 1:09:11
forcing of parents, two income families to give up one income

1112
1:09:11 --> 1:09:16
to go to homeschooling, the forcing of probably half of the

1113
1:09:16 --> 1:09:19
million people who've left the state to leave the state and

1114
1:09:19 --> 1:09:23
force parents to get new jobs just to have their kids educated

1115
1:09:23 --> 1:09:27
safely in a different state. There are myriad harms. And so

1116
1:09:27 --> 1:09:31
a win in this case is going to open up just the floodgates for

1117
1:09:31 --> 1:09:34
all these cases alleging the harms from these draconian

1118
1:09:34 --> 1:09:39
vaccine policies. So I will stop there. That is that is the

1119
1:09:39 --> 1:09:43
legislative and legal update in California. And so you can see

1120
1:09:43 --> 1:09:46
that it's really bad here. And that's also a reason why we

1121
1:09:46 --> 1:09:49
actually have good plaintiffs. Horrible things have happened to

1122
1:09:49 --> 1:09:52
the poor people here in California, but it gives us great

1123
1:09:52 --> 1:09:56
plaintiffs to actually give us a great chance of getting wins in

1124
1:09:56 --> 1:10:02
the court. And I'll stop there. Thank you. Thank you, Alex. Great

1125
1:10:02 --> 1:10:06
job. One question. What would need to happen before I ask you

1126
1:10:06 --> 1:10:13
that one question before Stephen asks his? One of our

1127
1:10:13 --> 1:10:20
number died overnight, Ray Strom. I got notification, two

1128
1:10:20 --> 1:10:24
emails, some of you will know Ray Strom. And he was very

1129
1:10:24 --> 1:10:30
frequent attendee here. So God bless him and prayers for him.

1130
1:10:32 --> 1:10:38
Alex, one question. The and I don't know why what he died of

1131
1:10:38 --> 1:10:44
other than other than he wasn't young. He wasn't in his 40s or

1132
1:10:44 --> 1:10:48
50s. What would need to happen? Here's my dream for Australia,

1133
1:10:48 --> 1:10:52
and my dream for California. What would need to happen to get

1134
1:10:52 --> 1:10:58
one million Americans donating $10 a week to free now

1135
1:10:58 --> 1:11:05
Foundation? Well, that would be fantastic. You see, it seems to

1136
1:11:05 --> 1:11:12
me that that no one's really I'm being I just haven't had time

1137
1:11:12 --> 1:11:17
to do it in Australia. To set up a legal fund of a million

1138
1:11:17 --> 1:11:21
Australians, a million Californians putting in $10 a

1139
1:11:21 --> 1:11:24
week, they can all the a million people can afford $10 a week

1140
1:11:24 --> 1:11:29
on our side. Yeah, so I know it's an exercise. But I also

1141
1:11:29 --> 1:11:32
know that no one's come out and offered that and say, Listen,

1142
1:11:32 --> 1:11:35
just send it over and we will marshal it well. And just

1143
1:11:35 --> 1:11:38
imagine what you could do with $10 million a week coming in.

1144
1:11:39 --> 1:11:43
That would be fun. We could win it a lot faster. I think we do

1145
1:11:43 --> 1:11:46
have a legal warriors club program that does fund our legal

1146
1:11:46 --> 1:11:52
work. And $1 a day, it's $30 a month. And that does provide the

1147
1:11:52 --> 1:11:55
recurring revenue we need to just barely keep our doors open.

1148
1:11:55 --> 1:11:59
But it doesn't it doesn't cover everything by any stretch of

1149
1:11:59 --> 1:12:02
the imagination. I am the chief fundraiser. I stress out every

1150
1:12:02 --> 1:12:05
single month, am I going to be able to keep our doors open? Am

1151
1:12:05 --> 1:12:08
I going to be able to keep these lawsuits going? And so many

1152
1:12:08 --> 1:12:12
people want these lawsuits to win. So many people want to

1153
1:12:12 --> 1:12:14
support them. But I think they think other people are

1154
1:12:14 --> 1:12:17
supporting them. And you know, the courts are really slow. I

1155
1:12:17 --> 1:12:20
think people just lose interest like, well, there hasn't been

1156
1:12:20 --> 1:12:23
any good news out of free now foundation for a few years. But

1157
1:12:23 --> 1:12:26
behind the scenes, we're working our butts off and strategizing

1158
1:12:26 --> 1:12:30
and re strategizing. And you know, we're gonna bring this

1159
1:12:30 --> 1:12:33
win to California. I know we are, because I'm not going to

1160
1:12:33 --> 1:12:34
stop until we get this win.

1161
1:12:37 --> 1:12:42
Yes, it's it's, I think it's a one of the things we need to do.

1162
1:12:42 --> 1:12:47
I have donated to a number of legal matters. And because the

1163
1:12:47 --> 1:12:53
cases take so much time, the communications stop. And so the

1164
1:12:54 --> 1:12:57
the donors think, oh, there's nothing happening. And so that

1165
1:12:57 --> 1:13:02
communication challenge is always a challenge. But I do, I

1166
1:13:02 --> 1:13:07
do think it's worthy of your consideration of saying, hmm,

1167
1:13:08 --> 1:13:12
because that and I think the population of California is 39

1168
1:13:12 --> 1:13:18
million. I also did an exercise earlier this week on the

1169
1:13:18 --> 1:13:22
relative size of states trip when Trevor Loudon spoke to us,

1170
1:13:23 --> 1:13:28
the top 10 states in America comprise 180 million people,

1171
1:13:28 --> 1:13:33
top 10 states, 40 states comprise 140 million.

1172
1:13:35 --> 1:13:38
California is the biggest with 39 million. You look at those

1173
1:13:38 --> 1:13:43
numbers, you go, wow, 10 states, 180 million out of 340

1174
1:13:43 --> 1:13:47
million. It's pretty amazing. So the structure of the

1175
1:13:47 --> 1:13:51
Constitution, but this idea of everything big. So they're the

1176
1:13:51 --> 1:13:56
thoughts that I have, Alex, and I honor the work that you do.

1177
1:13:56 --> 1:14:01
And, and I want to tell you a story. I want to tell everybody

1178
1:14:01 --> 1:14:05
a story here and relevant to Ron and Julie's fundraising.

1179
1:14:05 --> 1:14:13
Last two weeks ago, in Poland, there was a fundraising exercise

1180
1:14:15 --> 1:14:23
started by two semi famous rappers in Poland to raise 150,000

1181
1:14:23 --> 1:14:28
euros for cancer research. And they said, let's do a live

1182
1:14:28 --> 1:14:38
stream. And our goal is to raise 150,000 euros over nine days.

1183
1:14:39 --> 1:14:42
So they promoted it and spoke to their celebrity buddies that

1184
1:14:42 --> 1:14:45
they knew and said, come on to this live stream. And they

1185
1:14:45 --> 1:14:53
promoted it launched. They raised the 150,000 euros Alex in

1186
1:14:53 --> 1:14:56
three minutes. No way. Three minutes.

1187
1:14:56 --> 1:15:01
After five days, they had raised 60 million euros and they shut

1188
1:15:01 --> 1:15:06
the fundraising down. Bear in mind, there's 45 million people

1189
1:15:06 --> 1:15:11
only in Poland. 60 million euros. Wow.

1190
1:15:12 --> 1:15:18
The lesson, the lesson, and that's therefore one is two euros

1191
1:15:18 --> 1:15:24
per adult only. Right? The celebrities, the messaging, the

1192
1:15:25 --> 1:15:31
the pre prep, the celebrity status. It's an extraordinary

1193
1:15:31 --> 1:15:36
outcome. And I think that we should all be heartened by the

1194
1:15:36 --> 1:15:39
fact that you get the right messaging delivered in the right

1195
1:15:39 --> 1:15:45
ways with social media. It might be amazing what you can create.

1196
1:15:45 --> 1:15:50
And I recommend that you consider it. I can introduce you

1197
1:15:50 --> 1:15:53
to the polls. One of the one of my committee members in the

1198
1:15:53 --> 1:16:00
hemp business reported on that experience. And I think and I

1199
1:16:00 --> 1:16:06
think that you're clever enough to do such an event with the

1200
1:16:06 --> 1:16:10
right celebrities and really make it, including Ron and Julie's

1201
1:16:10 --> 1:16:13
fundraising crowdfunding exercise for the documentary.

1202
1:16:15 --> 1:16:20
You know, I think you would if if the right elements were put

1203
1:16:20 --> 1:16:26
in place, the sky is the limit as demonstrated by that

1204
1:16:26 --> 1:16:31
experience. Okay. Yeah. So I get so I get excited. I'll happily

1205
1:16:31 --> 1:16:34
talk to you about that and introduce you to my buddy in

1206
1:16:34 --> 1:16:37
Poland. Thank you. Yeah, maybe there's a new twist that would

1207
1:16:37 --> 1:16:39
work this time. I remember being at Children's Health Defense

1208
1:16:39 --> 1:16:42
trying to get celebrities to come out and speak publicly

1209
1:16:42 --> 1:16:47
about this issue. It is so, so hard. And they you know, they

1210
1:16:47 --> 1:16:50
don't they don't get cast into their roles anymore. Rob Schneider

1211
1:16:50 --> 1:16:55
was vocal about vaccines and he he wasn't cast in any films. He

1212
1:16:55 --> 1:16:58
was only surviving on stand up until he agreed to shut up about

1213
1:16:58 --> 1:17:03
vaccines again. It is brutal out there. Yeah. And by the way, I

1214
1:17:03 --> 1:17:09
also happen to know that I heard a figure that there's about 60

1215
1:17:09 --> 1:17:13
to 80,000 celebrities and politicians in California, or

1216
1:17:13 --> 1:17:18
California and beyond who have faked their vaccine record for

1217
1:17:18 --> 1:17:21
their children. So they don't care. They just fake it and

1218
1:17:21 --> 1:17:23
they don't feel like they have to do anything because they're

1219
1:17:23 --> 1:17:31
fine. Well, I think when we get a little bit of time, I want to

1220
1:17:31 --> 1:17:34
share with you and I put it I'll put it into the chat, Alex and

1221
1:17:34 --> 1:17:41
everybody else, the world hierarchy pyramid. You you is so

1222
1:17:41 --> 1:17:46
important that you keep this in mind in all of your thinking.

1223
1:17:46 --> 1:17:50
Now, have you seen this world hierarchy pyramid, Alex? I don't

1224
1:17:50 --> 1:17:55
think so. I think this is the we've often talked about it here

1225
1:17:55 --> 1:17:58
when we talk about, you know, people ask the question, who are

1226
1:17:58 --> 1:18:07
they? Now, in terms of trying to work the logic of what on Earth

1227
1:18:07 --> 1:18:14
is is happening, you know, this madness that's happening in your

1228
1:18:14 --> 1:18:23
state, it is not crazy. Just once I'm going to get this diagram,

1229
1:18:23 --> 1:18:26
I want to bring it up on the screen. It is not crazy when you

1230
1:18:26 --> 1:18:29
see what's happening. And one of the great memes that I've seen

1231
1:18:29 --> 1:18:36
that I often quote in my speeches is that when you realize

1232
1:18:37 --> 1:18:42
their goal is to confuse you, you will no longer be confused.

1233
1:18:42 --> 1:18:46
When you realize their goal is to confuse you, you will no

1234
1:18:46 --> 1:18:53
longer be confused. Now, now I'm just getting this picture just

1235
1:18:53 --> 1:18:59
one second. I'll bring it up on the screen. Everybody, this is

1236
1:18:59 --> 1:19:06
very relevant for all of your thinking. And I hold this. We've

1237
1:19:06 --> 1:19:09
talked about they I've shared the book of the New World Order,

1238
1:19:09 --> 1:19:13
Alex, I've also shared that with you. This diagram, this

1239
1:19:13 --> 1:19:19
was sorry, this beautiful picture puts it correctly in

1240
1:19:19 --> 1:19:23
place.

1241
1:19:27 --> 1:19:31
All right, it's coming up.

1242
1:19:40 --> 1:19:47
Oh, no, I haven't seen this. You can see that now? Yeah. So

1243
1:19:47 --> 1:19:51
everybody, I'll make this a bit bigger. But what I want you to

1244
1:19:51 --> 1:19:57
see is what this pyramid looks like. And I'll put it into the

1245
1:19:57 --> 1:20:01
chat so you've all got it. Have it on your desktop because you

1246
1:20:01 --> 1:20:06
go to the people in top angelic realms, God, spiritual realms,

1247
1:20:06 --> 1:20:09
satanic. I want you to come down to the bottom here.

1248
1:20:13 --> 1:20:17
At the bottom, there's us the peasants.

1249
1:20:20 --> 1:20:23
The general population, human livestock, sheep, cattle,

1250
1:20:23 --> 1:20:27
debtors, nine to five slaves. Right above us is the California

1251
1:20:27 --> 1:20:32
government here. Alex? Yeah. The legal system education.

1252
1:20:32 --> 1:20:36
Above that is world population control. Above that is the

1253
1:20:36 --> 1:20:39
corporations. The corporations clearly drive the government.

1254
1:20:39 --> 1:20:43
Absolutely clear. But those corporations are driven by the

1255
1:20:43 --> 1:20:48
alphabet soup. There's all those bodies, the UN, EU, world,

1256
1:20:48 --> 1:20:54
Holocaust organizations, Vera calls it. World Economic Forum

1257
1:20:54 --> 1:20:57
up here, Bank of International Settlements, International

1258
1:20:57 --> 1:21:00
Monetary Fund. You then go the next level up.

1259
1:21:00 --> 1:21:06
Go the next level up. You then get to international law, black

1260
1:21:06 --> 1:21:10
markets, cartels. Here's Black Rock. Here's the Hexagon Group.

1261
1:21:12 --> 1:21:16
Here's the Freemasons, the Octagon Group, Grand Masters,

1262
1:21:16 --> 1:21:18
Committee of 300 up here. We've talked a lot about the

1263
1:21:18 --> 1:21:22
Committee of 300 here. Oh, wow. They're only like in the

1264
1:21:22 --> 1:21:26
middle of the pyramid. Yeah. You then go the next level up into

1265
1:21:26 --> 1:21:30
the bloodlines into the priesthoods. The Vatican, the

1266
1:21:30 --> 1:21:35
Jesuit orders, they've got spiritual law, Admiralty law. I

1267
1:21:35 --> 1:21:37
just make that a bit bigger so you can see it a bit better. I'll

1268
1:21:37 --> 1:21:40
put it in the chat everybody, but you must study this because

1269
1:21:40 --> 1:21:45
what this helps us to do is to ask the question, who is Gavin

1270
1:21:45 --> 1:21:50
Newsom on 15, 19% vote? Whose bidding is he doing? You've got

1271
1:21:50 --> 1:21:55
here, see the world's richest, most powerful families up here.

1272
1:21:55 --> 1:21:58
The priesthood of Amon, the Druidic Council, Mayor of

1273
1:21:58 --> 1:22:02
Indian bloodlines, the Grey Pope, Vatican as I say, Cult of

1274
1:22:03 --> 1:22:11
Baal. You then go further up. And we've had Scott Sharer come

1275
1:22:11 --> 1:22:15
on here. We will not win this war at a mental level because

1276
1:22:15 --> 1:22:23
the extraterrestrials, the spiritual leaders here, you've

1277
1:22:23 --> 1:22:30
then got the God King, so the satanic rights, the common law,

1278
1:22:30 --> 1:22:34
God's law, and you get up into the angelic realms. Now, the

1279
1:22:34 --> 1:22:39
reason why I shared that is that Gavin Newsom is following

1280
1:22:39 --> 1:22:43
instructions. Hakeem Jeffries is following instructions.

1281
1:22:43 --> 1:22:46
They're all following instructions. Taylor Swift

1282
1:22:46 --> 1:22:50
became famous because she was chosen to be the satanic

1283
1:22:50 --> 1:22:54
demonic messenger. That's why she's a global phenomenon. If

1284
1:22:54 --> 1:22:58
Black Rock decides to back a business, it thrives. If Black

1285
1:22:58 --> 1:23:02
Rock chooses not to back a business, it disappears down a

1286
1:23:02 --> 1:23:06
plug hole. We need to understand this pyramid. There's

1287
1:23:06 --> 1:23:10
roughly, and Shiva, what's his name, did a magnificent video

1288
1:23:10 --> 1:23:13
on this. In that pyramid, there's roughly a million people

1289
1:23:13 --> 1:23:19
driving us peasants, 8,400 million of us. So there's one to

1290
1:23:19 --> 1:23:25
8,400. Our job is to understand that pyramid because then our

1291
1:23:25 --> 1:23:31
decision-making is better. I'll put it in the chat. There's a

1292
1:23:31 --> 1:23:35
page afterwards that explains a lovely description of how

1293
1:23:35 --> 1:23:38
that's put together. And for those of you who want to study

1294
1:23:38 --> 1:23:44
it, the link is called the Deep State Mapping Project. Just one

1295
1:23:44 --> 1:23:46
second. I'll just confirm the exact. I'll put that into the

1296
1:23:46 --> 1:23:51
chat as well. What this does is go right. That's the game we

1297
1:23:51 --> 1:23:55
are in. We need to understand that game. We need to act

1298
1:23:55 --> 1:23:59
accordingly. In Scots Shah, the spiritual realms we need to

1299
1:23:59 --> 1:24:08
understand. And our job is for humanity to unite. 8,400 million

1300
1:24:08 --> 1:24:15
of us against one million of them. They are the shepherds. We

1301
1:24:15 --> 1:24:20
are acting like sheep. That's the game. All right, Alex, I'll

1302
1:24:20 --> 1:24:25
send it to you. It's very useful. It helps your thinking.

1303
1:24:26 --> 1:24:30
I'll say who put that together? Well, the Deep State Mapping

1304
1:24:30 --> 1:24:34
Project. Have a look at the website. So that was a

1305
1:24:34 --> 1:24:40
consortium of people. Good question. They're probably

1306
1:24:40 --> 1:24:43
anonymous in terms of publishing that. But we've also got the

1307
1:24:43 --> 1:24:46
book on the Committee of 300. I'll put that in the chat for

1308
1:24:46 --> 1:24:48
those of you who haven't downloaded it. And the book by

1309
1:24:48 --> 1:24:51
William Still, The New World Order. I'll also put that in the

1310
1:24:51 --> 1:24:53
chat. So three things I'll put in the chat. Everyone, please

1311
1:24:53 --> 1:24:58
download and study and understand. And when people talk

1312
1:24:58 --> 1:25:01
about the Freemasons, what's clear is that if you're not

1313
1:25:01 --> 1:25:05
level 33 Freemason and above, you are not in the decision

1314
1:25:05 --> 1:25:08
making. There are some wonderful people in the Freemasonry

1315
1:25:08 --> 1:25:12
Order. Wonderful, good hearted people. But the people at the

1316
1:25:12 --> 1:25:15
top of the tree, it's a bit like the Vatican. The local

1317
1:25:15 --> 1:25:18
parish priest does not understand what the Vatican is

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1:25:18 --> 1:25:22
doing. And so Newsome, the question is, who's giving the

1319
1:25:22 --> 1:25:27
instructions to destroy America and to destroy California and

1320
1:25:27 --> 1:25:30
the whole game plan? Well, that's what that pyramid tells

1321
1:25:30 --> 1:25:34
you. And it is, in one sense, complex. In another, it's

1322
1:25:34 --> 1:25:38
pretty narrow. And the numbers suggest there are 500 major

1323
1:25:38 --> 1:25:41
corporations on the planet that are driving this whole

1324
1:25:41 --> 1:25:44
process that we are part of. And that includes world

1325
1:25:44 --> 1:25:48
population control and depopulation. And so, Geronimo,

1326
1:25:48 --> 1:25:51
at least we know who we're fighting. That's the benefit.

1327
1:25:51 --> 1:25:56
We know what we're dealing with. OK, but Charles, the

1328
1:25:56 --> 1:25:59
obvious question is who pays the people who created that

1329
1:25:59 --> 1:26:04
pyramid? Is that the truth? The unvarnished truth? Or why do

1330
1:26:04 --> 1:26:06
we believe that? Nothing's unvarnished truth.

1331
1:26:07 --> 1:26:11
Nothing's unvarnished truth. All right. So my question, my

1332
1:26:11 --> 1:26:14
challenge, Stephen, my challenge to everybody, hang on,

1333
1:26:14 --> 1:26:18
hang on, hang on. My challenge to everybody who looks at that

1334
1:26:18 --> 1:26:21
is to say, where is that wrong? OK, that's the way to look at

1335
1:26:21 --> 1:26:24
it. From the information that each one of us has here, I'd

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1:26:24 --> 1:26:27
love a presentation from anybody who says, no, this is

1337
1:26:27 --> 1:26:31
not accurate here, ABC. But we have had conversations over the

1338
1:26:31 --> 1:26:34
last five years. And I started having these conversations back

1339
1:26:34 --> 1:26:39
in 1970 when I started law school, because my dad, who

1340
1:26:39 --> 1:26:43
escaped from communism, he understood this structure and he

1341
1:26:43 --> 1:26:46
told me about this structure. And Vera, I'm sure you

1342
1:26:46 --> 1:26:49
understand this structure. And Jerry Brady has told you,

1343
1:26:49 --> 1:26:52
Stephen, and us, that the Nazis are still in power, in

1344
1:26:52 --> 1:26:56
control, and the companies that did well in World War II under

1345
1:26:56 --> 1:27:01
the Nazis are still thriving, including BMW. OK, and that book

1346
1:27:01 --> 1:27:06
by David de Jong that is published two or three years ago

1347
1:27:06 --> 1:27:10
has traced those companies that did well under the Nazi regime

1348
1:27:10 --> 1:27:14
are still doing well. They thrived financially. Now, so

1349
1:27:14 --> 1:27:16
look at that pyramid. Don't just say-

1350
1:27:16 --> 1:27:19
The Nazis didn't lose World War II.

1351
1:27:20 --> 1:27:23
No, that's what Jerry says. The Nazis never surrendered.

1352
1:27:25 --> 1:27:27
So look at that chart.

1353
1:27:27 --> 1:27:32
There were just Nazis on both sides. So whoever won the war,

1354
1:27:32 --> 1:27:34
they had Nazis there, right?

1355
1:27:34 --> 1:27:37
Well, Jerry says they never- Yes, Shimon. And Jerry says the

1356
1:27:37 --> 1:27:41
Nazis never surrendered officially. Now, the point is,

1357
1:27:41 --> 1:27:46
look at that pyramid and point out to us where it's wrong, not

1358
1:27:46 --> 1:27:50
today, but study it, because it's entirely consistent with

1359
1:27:50 --> 1:27:53
the five years of meetings that we've had here. It's entirely

1360
1:27:53 --> 1:27:54
consistent with it.

1361
1:27:55 --> 1:27:59
Yes, but you don't start that way around. You create your own

1362
1:27:59 --> 1:28:02
truth and then you compare it with that pyramid, for example.

1363
1:28:02 --> 1:28:06
But what I'm saying is that if we know, Charles, that

1364
1:28:06 --> 1:28:09
everything that the government does, for example, governments

1365
1:28:09 --> 1:28:12
around the world, they create false narratives because the

1366
1:28:12 --> 1:28:17
first narrative that is out is the most difficult to shift.

1367
1:28:17 --> 1:28:18
They do it for a reason.

1368
1:28:19 --> 1:28:22
Yeah, that's what we still haven't got a narrative about

1369
1:28:22 --> 1:28:25
COVID-19. What happened? Yes, we have. Of course we have.

1370
1:28:25 --> 1:28:31
No, we haven't. We haven't. We've got the narrative here.

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1:28:31 --> 1:28:35
We haven't fine-tuned it. We haven't published. So that's

1372
1:28:35 --> 1:28:40
what we were working towards in my mind, the truth. You know,

1373
1:28:40 --> 1:28:43
as close as possible to the truth. All I'm saying is that

1374
1:28:43 --> 1:28:46
you didn't even know. Well, you did say the name of the body

1375
1:28:46 --> 1:28:49
who'd created the pyramid, but you hadn't asked yourself the

1376
1:28:49 --> 1:28:53
question, what motive might they have for creating? I'm not

1377
1:28:53 --> 1:28:57
saying that it's entirely wrong. I'm just saying who are

1378
1:28:57 --> 1:29:04
those people? Why would I need that? I don't need to know who

1379
1:29:04 --> 1:29:09
did it. It's available. It's available. Prove when it's wrong.

1380
1:29:09 --> 1:29:11
Can I ask a few questions now, Charles?

1381
1:29:11 --> 1:29:12
Go for it. Yep.

1382
1:29:12 --> 1:29:17
Right. So Alex, I was thinking about the, you know, the 10

1383
1:29:17 --> 1:29:22
states which comprise 180 million, if that's true. And I

1384
1:29:22 --> 1:29:26
think that California is one, obviously, Texas another,

1385
1:29:26 --> 1:29:30
Florida, New York, maybe you can help me with this. So those

1386
1:29:30 --> 1:29:33
four states are the big states in America, as I understand

1387
1:29:33 --> 1:29:37
it. Then you've got Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois.

1388
1:29:37 --> 1:29:41
I'm not sure after Illinois, where would you say the last

1389
1:29:42 --> 1:29:47
three? I'm not saying they're in order either, though. Would

1390
1:29:47 --> 1:29:49
Tennessee be one of them, Maryland?

1391
1:29:51 --> 1:29:54
I doubt it. I don't know. Well, Georgia.

1392
1:29:54 --> 1:29:55
Easy enough to find out.

1393
1:29:56 --> 1:30:02
Yeah, well, exactly. Without consulting Google. That's what

1394
1:30:02 --> 1:30:05
I was trying to, but because everybody says, oh, you don't

1395
1:30:05 --> 1:30:07
need to have these things in your head. Yes, you do,

1396
1:30:07 --> 1:30:09
actually, because you need information in your head so that

1397
1:30:09 --> 1:30:13
you can juggle ideas. If you haven't got the information to

1398
1:30:13 --> 1:30:15
start with, it's not good enough to say, oh, I can get it

1399
1:30:15 --> 1:30:18
from Google, because then you haven't got any ideas because

1400
1:30:18 --> 1:30:23
you've got nothing in your head. So not your head. Alex, I

1401
1:30:23 --> 1:30:27
wouldn't say that to you as our guest. So I wanted to ask you,

1402
1:30:30 --> 1:30:31
are you on Substack?

1403
1:30:32 --> 1:30:34
Yeah, that's where I was showing you some of those

1404
1:30:34 --> 1:30:41
articles and photos. My Substack is A-L-I-X-M-A-Y-E-R.substack.com,

1405
1:30:41 --> 1:30:43
and I've been pretty active lately.

1406
1:30:44 --> 1:30:46
Yeah, so I was going to say-

1407
1:30:46 --> 1:30:47
Top 12 rising recently.

1408
1:30:47 --> 1:30:49
I didn't know you were on Substack, but I was going to

1409
1:30:49 --> 1:30:53
suggest that would be a way of creating interest. You know,

1410
1:30:53 --> 1:30:58
document, you've got lots of cases now, and documenting those

1411
1:30:58 --> 1:31:02
cases, although it seems a little bit kind of rarefied for

1412
1:31:03 --> 1:31:05
the California public. There are people around the world who

1413
1:31:05 --> 1:31:09
would be very interested in those, you know, and so I'm

1414
1:31:09 --> 1:31:13
beginning to understand the power of Substack, and Alex

1415
1:31:13 --> 1:31:16
Kramer has been encouraging me to go on Substack. But anyway-

1416
1:31:17 --> 1:31:20
It's been really good for me. I just recently hit the top 12

1417
1:31:20 --> 1:31:23
rising on Substack, which doesn't mean I'm in the top 100.

1418
1:31:23 --> 1:31:29
It means I was 112 in health politics. But my Substack has

1419
1:31:29 --> 1:31:32
been very active, and I'm gaining a lot of followers

1420
1:31:32 --> 1:31:33
pretty quickly now.

1421
1:31:35 --> 1:31:37
So what I didn't know, which I learned from Alex Kramer, is

1422
1:31:37 --> 1:31:42
that Substack actually has an interest in you and everyone

1423
1:31:43 --> 1:31:46
getting as many subscribers as possible, paid subscribers,

1424
1:31:46 --> 1:31:47
you know?

1425
1:31:47 --> 1:31:47
Oh, yeah.

1426
1:31:48 --> 1:31:54
And so they kind of do a lot of the work for getting the paid

1427
1:31:54 --> 1:31:58
subscribers to actually join various people, you know, or all

1428
1:31:58 --> 1:32:02
people, you know, the ones that they see are doing well to

1429
1:32:02 --> 1:32:03
start with.

1430
1:32:05 --> 1:32:09
But there was another way. So Substack works, and then-

1431
1:32:10 --> 1:32:14
But can you promote yourself? I can't remember.

1432
1:32:14 --> 1:32:17
Yeah, I remember Alex was saying it works two ways.

1433
1:32:19 --> 1:32:21
So they promote a lot.

1434
1:32:21 --> 1:32:24
Oh, yes, they get you to actually become-

1435
1:32:24 --> 1:32:28
You know, get subscribers, because you can be on Substack

1436
1:32:28 --> 1:32:30
without subscribers, I think.

1437
1:32:30 --> 1:32:31
And so they encourage you.

1438
1:32:33 --> 1:32:35
And yes, okay.

1439
1:32:35 --> 1:32:36
So anyway, you know about them.

1440
1:32:37 --> 1:32:40
So I would say that, you know, you never know until you publish

1441
1:32:40 --> 1:32:45
things what the interest is, because it's not easy for us to

1442
1:32:45 --> 1:32:47
judge, you know, when you're kind of writing stuff or

1443
1:32:47 --> 1:32:51
document- putting documents on, you know, how much interest

1444
1:32:51 --> 1:32:55
they'll be. But things can, you know, the public can be very

1445
1:32:55 --> 1:32:55
unpredictable sometimes.

1446
1:32:55 --> 1:32:57
Yeah, well, yeah, I am learning.

1447
1:32:57 --> 1:32:59
I'm doing some market research as I go.

1448
1:32:59 --> 1:33:03
And, you know, having been publishing online since 2005,

1449
1:33:03 --> 1:33:06
it's really the human interest stories that get the most

1450
1:33:06 --> 1:33:08
interaction right now.

1451
1:33:08 --> 1:33:11
Like my article about an argument I had in a Chinese

1452
1:33:11 --> 1:33:14
restaurant with a man who overheard my boyfriend's and my

1453
1:33:14 --> 1:33:18
conversation with this man, and he said, you know, I'm going to

1454
1:33:18 --> 1:33:22
overheard my boyfriend's and my conversation with this ex-C

1455
1:33:22 --> 1:33:27
level Apple executive was a hilarious interaction.

1456
1:33:27 --> 1:33:30
And he tried to- he whisked his family out of there to get them

1457
1:33:30 --> 1:33:33
away from us because he didn't want his kids to hear our

1458
1:33:33 --> 1:33:33
conversation.

1459
1:33:33 --> 1:33:37
But that's been a really popular article on my Substack.

1460
1:33:37 --> 1:33:39
I'll put it here because you guys will get a kick out of it.

1461
1:33:40 --> 1:33:41
But it's those kind of articles-

1462
1:33:41 --> 1:33:42
What was the conversation about, Alex?

1463
1:33:43 --> 1:33:43
Huh?

1464
1:33:44 --> 1:33:45
What was the conversation about?

1465
1:33:45 --> 1:33:50
Oh, we actually in one conversation convinced this

1466
1:33:51 --> 1:33:54
ex-C level Apple executive that vaccines are dangerous.

1467
1:33:55 --> 1:33:58
And this man was there with his family at the Chinese

1468
1:33:58 --> 1:33:58
restaurant.

1469
1:33:58 --> 1:34:01
And I didn't think they were listening to us because it was

1470
1:34:01 --> 1:34:02
two parents and three kids.

1471
1:34:02 --> 1:34:04
They were all on their cell phones, but they were listening

1472
1:34:04 --> 1:34:05
to us.

1473
1:34:05 --> 1:34:08
And so the man came over and told me, you know, everything

1474
1:34:08 --> 1:34:10
you just said about vaccines is wrong.

1475
1:34:10 --> 1:34:13
And then he ran to the hostess stand to pay his bill.

1476
1:34:13 --> 1:34:15
And he came rushing back to the table to get his family away

1477
1:34:15 --> 1:34:16
from us.

1478
1:34:16 --> 1:34:17
Wow.

1479
1:34:17 --> 1:34:18
Yeah.

1480
1:34:19 --> 1:34:20
So it's a funny story.

1481
1:34:22 --> 1:34:24
It's a bit akin to people covering their ears when I was

1482
1:34:24 --> 1:34:26
talking to them in 2021.

1483
1:34:27 --> 1:34:27
Yeah.

1484
1:34:29 --> 1:34:32
So anyway, who are the lawyers who work for you?

1485
1:34:33 --> 1:34:36
You can't name them maybe, but how do you find your lawyers?

1486
1:34:38 --> 1:34:41
Well, one person who is key in finding our initial legal

1487
1:34:41 --> 1:34:45
team and picking the best of the best who were just starting

1488
1:34:45 --> 1:34:48
to become experts in this medical freedom law that wasn't

1489
1:34:48 --> 1:34:51
even a specialty before 2020 is my friend and former board

1490
1:34:51 --> 1:34:53
member, Graham Brownstein.

1491
1:34:53 --> 1:34:57
And he's one of the key attorneys who Vera knows who's

1492
1:34:57 --> 1:35:00
on this hospital homicide lawsuit that we actually put

1493
1:35:00 --> 1:35:04
that in our portfolio also, even though it's happening in New

1494
1:35:04 --> 1:35:04
York.

1495
1:35:05 --> 1:35:08
So he actually pulled together our initial bevy of attorneys

1496
1:35:08 --> 1:35:08
who are amazing.

1497
1:35:09 --> 1:35:13
Jessica Barsoe is still doing an active case with us.

1498
1:35:13 --> 1:35:15
She's the one doing the ADA case.

1499
1:35:15 --> 1:35:20
And then Dr. Richard Fox is the one doing our due process case.

1500
1:35:20 --> 1:35:23
And as I said, he's a medical doctor.

1501
1:35:23 --> 1:35:26
He's the only vaccine optional pediatrician in California.

1502
1:35:26 --> 1:35:30
So he gets access to tons of plaintiffs through his practice.

1503
1:35:31 --> 1:35:33
And he's also a lawyer, obviously.

1504
1:35:33 --> 1:35:39
And then we're bringing on Scott Street, who is a very specialized

1505
1:35:39 --> 1:35:42
appellate court attorney under that case as well.

1506
1:35:42 --> 1:35:45
And then for the hospital homicide case, we have Tristan Lindsey,

1507
1:35:45 --> 1:35:48
who's a really rock star attorney in New York.

1508
1:35:49 --> 1:35:52
I recommend following her also if you don't already.

1509
1:35:53 --> 1:35:56
And we're doing a fundraising dinner for that hospital

1510
1:35:56 --> 1:35:57
homicide case.

1511
1:35:57 --> 1:35:58
And Vera is going to be there.

1512
1:35:58 --> 1:35:59
She's going to be our guest of honor.

1513
1:36:00 --> 1:36:06
And we are looking for people who are very huge fans of Vera

1514
1:36:06 --> 1:36:10
and who also want to help stop this practice of hospital homicide

1515
1:36:10 --> 1:36:15
because this case, to try to get justice for this grieving mom,

1516
1:36:15 --> 1:36:18
Rebecca Charles Jackson and her daughter, Danielle Alvarez,

1517
1:36:18 --> 1:36:23
we believe is the only case that can pierce those Prep Act protections

1518
1:36:23 --> 1:36:27
that protect the hospital from the wanton polypharmacy

1519
1:36:27 --> 1:36:31
that they were practicing on all these people just to treat them

1520
1:36:31 --> 1:36:35
basically as rare earths and extract as much wealth from them as possible.

1521
1:36:35 --> 1:36:40
And in the case of this 20-something girl, Danielle, she was mentally disabled.

1522
1:36:41 --> 1:36:45
They extracted everything out of her they could through this wanton

1523
1:36:45 --> 1:36:48
polypharmacy strategy and putting her on a ventilator.

1524
1:36:48 --> 1:36:52
And then before she was gone, they put her on an organ donation list

1525
1:36:52 --> 1:36:54
so they could get more money from her organs.

1526
1:36:54 --> 1:36:59
And altogether, the hospital between her private insurance and Medicare

1527
1:36:59 --> 1:37:03
because she was disabled, they probably made a million dollars off of her.

1528
1:37:04 --> 1:37:08
And that poor mom has been stripped of her daughter's life.

1529
1:37:08 --> 1:37:10
And she's still grieving to this day.

1530
1:37:10 --> 1:37:12
It happened in 2021.

1531
1:37:13 --> 1:37:14
It's just sick.

1532
1:37:16 --> 1:37:22
Alex, do you remember the doctors, the two doctors in California?

1533
1:37:22 --> 1:37:27
I think it may have been Bakersfield who were very vocal in 2020.

1534
1:37:27 --> 1:37:28
So, yeah.

1535
1:37:29 --> 1:37:31
Do you remember what happened to them?

1536
1:37:32 --> 1:37:34
Oh, I think that they got shaken down.

1537
1:37:34 --> 1:37:36
I don't remember their names because it happened so fast.

1538
1:37:36 --> 1:37:39
They were like, they just exploded out in the scene.

1539
1:37:39 --> 1:37:43
And then they were told they would lose their jobs and their livelihoods.

1540
1:37:43 --> 1:37:45
And they've been quiet as far as I know.

1541
1:37:46 --> 1:37:47
Did they lose their jobs?

1542
1:37:48 --> 1:37:50
I don't think so because they got quiet.

1543
1:37:52 --> 1:37:53
Why don't you contact them?

1544
1:37:56 --> 1:37:57
Why did I or didn't I?

1545
1:37:57 --> 1:38:01
Well, they became very visible even in the UK.

1546
1:38:02 --> 1:38:05
And I think there were other countries as well where they were pretty visible.

1547
1:38:06 --> 1:38:12
So, I thought that they'd been kind of pushed by evil forces to lead people astray,

1548
1:38:13 --> 1:38:17
to kind of get a narrative in that they wanted the public to believe such as,

1549
1:38:17 --> 1:38:24
you know, the gain of function narrative, which I think is false,

1550
1:38:26 --> 1:38:30
to lead people to think that you're well, to increase fear essentially.

1551
1:38:31 --> 1:38:35
When in fact, you know, whether a virus, if you believe in viruses,

1552
1:38:35 --> 1:38:39
whether it's created in a lab or whether it occurs naturally,

1553
1:38:41 --> 1:38:45
it can't, the deadly virus still can't kill its, it kills its host, you know,

1554
1:38:45 --> 1:38:48
it kills its host, you know, so it can't spread essentially.

1555
1:38:49 --> 1:38:56
So, the gain of function thing had no relevance because if you've got high transmissibility

1556
1:38:56 --> 1:39:01
and low, you know, you've got low virulence, so high virulence, if you've got a virus,

1557
1:39:01 --> 1:39:05
which is, you know, if you believe in viruses, which is created in a lab,

1558
1:39:05 --> 1:39:10
as far as I could see, the only reason for that narrative was to increase fear.

1559
1:39:12 --> 1:39:12
Absolutely.

1560
1:39:13 --> 1:39:18
Doesn't matter if you believe in viruses, whether the virus is created in a lab or not,

1561
1:39:18 --> 1:39:23
what matters is how virulent it is, and if it's virulent, it can't spread.

1562
1:39:24 --> 1:39:25
Do you understand me?

1563
1:39:25 --> 1:39:30
Yeah, no, it was always, it was always a zero sum game.

1564
1:39:30 --> 1:39:34
They were mutually exclusive, either a virus was very deadly and not very transmissible,

1565
1:39:34 --> 1:39:39
or is highly contagious and very transmissible, and then COVID ended up being both,

1566
1:39:39 --> 1:39:42
and that should have sent up a red flag for every single person around the world.

1567
1:39:43 --> 1:39:47
Correct. So, those two doctors were very visible all over the world, as I understand it,

1568
1:39:47 --> 1:39:54
even in Australia and New Zealand, and I just thought it was so kind of obvious,

1569
1:39:54 --> 1:39:57
I thought they were being pushed, you know, by evil forces, as I said,

1570
1:39:57 --> 1:40:00
to get a false narrative in. Do you understand me?

1571
1:40:00 --> 1:40:03
So, that's why I mentioned, but I was interested.

1572
1:40:03 --> 1:40:08
They were some of many, many, many, many, many voices who emerged, so I didn't think

1573
1:40:08 --> 1:40:13
of them as being any kind of like breakout people. I mean, they were breakout because

1574
1:40:14 --> 1:40:17
there were dozens of people who were breakouts from that time,

1575
1:40:17 --> 1:40:19
but I didn't know that they had made it all around the world.

1576
1:40:21 --> 1:40:27
They were also very good speakers. They were very kind of convincing. They were really good,

1577
1:40:28 --> 1:40:34
but maybe you can kind of, you know, in your quiet time, you can kind of gently look for them,

1578
1:40:34 --> 1:40:38
you know, it'd be very interesting to meet up with them, but maybe they wouldn't want to talk to us,

1579
1:40:38 --> 1:40:41
you know, but maybe they would. Oh, I see where you're going. Yeah,

1580
1:40:41 --> 1:40:44
you want them on the show. Can I please ask you something?

1581
1:40:44 --> 1:40:47
Sorry. These two doctors that you're talking about,

1582
1:40:49 --> 1:40:56
was it, were they talking about, sorry, these two doctors that you, of 2020, that you're talking

1583
1:40:56 --> 1:41:03
about, were they talking of a virus or were they talking of hypoxia? And this is what I think they

1584
1:41:03 --> 1:41:09
were talking of, and I don't think it's false narrative because the poison that was disseminated

1585
1:41:09 --> 1:41:17
in 2020 caused hypoxia. Yeah, so they were definitely, they were pretty well versed as

1586
1:41:17 --> 1:41:24
doctors. You know, they talked like real doctors and they were quite convincing. And actually,

1587
1:41:24 --> 1:41:28
to be honest, they provided me with some hope because they were one of the, they were amongst

1588
1:41:28 --> 1:41:33
the first doctors in the whole world to be visible, you know, in this crazy time.

1589
1:41:34 --> 1:41:40
I seem to remember that there were these, maybe these two doctors that told people that

1590
1:41:42 --> 1:41:48
putting patients on the ventilator, if their blood cannot circulate the oxygen,

1591
1:41:48 --> 1:41:56
it has no merit whatsoever. It's not the right treatment. And this is not a false narrative.

1592
1:41:56 --> 1:42:01
No, I'm not saying it was false, but I was just wondering at the time whether it was being pushed,

1593
1:42:01 --> 1:42:09
you know, but I think they were doing this medicine. I just looked them up. It was Dr. Dan Erickson and

1594
1:42:09 --> 1:42:17
Arten Masihi, M-A-S-S-I-H-I, and their top talking points were, number one, COVID was far less deadly

1595
1:42:17 --> 1:42:22
than portrayed and similar to seasonal flu, two lockdowns, stay-at-home orders and social distancing

1596
1:42:22 --> 1:42:29
were unnecessary and harmful, three death counts were being inflated, four questioned the broader

1597
1:42:29 --> 1:42:34
public health guidance. They downplayed the need for masks and criticized figures like Anthony Fauci.

1598
1:42:34 --> 1:42:39
So that, that's what they were talking about. Yeah, they were absolutely right on every single

1599
1:42:39 --> 1:42:47
point you've just mentioned. Yeah, they were. That's great, Alex. So, should we take a question from

1600
1:42:47 --> 1:42:56
Julie and then I can come back? Are you there, Alex? Oh, yeah, I'm here. Yeah, Julie, go ahead.

1601
1:43:01 --> 1:43:05
Okay, there we go. Geez, Louise, I'm calling in from Zoom, you guys. Hey, Alex. Hey,

1602
1:43:05 --> 1:43:11
all my friends. I am, I'm not coming on video. I just had shoulder surgery, so I'm laid up,

1603
1:43:11 --> 1:43:18
but I just wanted to add a couple things. So when Ron and I were in Sacramento, April the 7th,

1604
1:43:18 --> 1:43:26
for that hearing on AB 2651, the vaccine quota bill, it was really kind of eye-opening in that,

1605
1:43:26 --> 1:43:32
in that hearing, none of the Republicans showed up. So they didn't even get to a quorum to have a

1606
1:43:32 --> 1:43:35
vote. I mean, it was just kind of absurd. And, you know, we had gone there and we were knocking on

1607
1:43:35 --> 1:43:40
doors and all this, and it was like, really? I mean, it was crazy. And the Mia Bonta, who you

1608
1:43:40 --> 1:43:46
described as, and she's the, again, the wife of our AG, and she's the one behind a lot of these

1609
1:43:46 --> 1:43:52
criminal vaccine cabal bills. She brings in a lab coat. So she brings in a pediatrician who sits

1610
1:43:52 --> 1:43:57
there and goes, you know, oh, there's all these measles outbreaks in South Carolina. So to your

1611
1:43:57 --> 1:44:01
point about the state comparison. And, you know, when I, when I went up to give my, you know, I'm

1612
1:44:01 --> 1:44:07
a grandmother of seven, I'm absolutely opposed to this nonsense at the microphone. I said, go take

1613
1:44:07 --> 1:44:12
a look at Idaho or Florida. They don't have these absurd requirements and their kids are healthy.

1614
1:44:12 --> 1:44:16
Why don't we just start with that? Right? Anyway, so it's pretty depressing what goes on in

1615
1:44:16 --> 1:44:23
Sacramento, but you have to try, right? And right now we're in the middle of a huge election and

1616
1:44:23 --> 1:44:30
we've got two Republican candidates for governor that may actually make it through to the general.

1617
1:44:30 --> 1:44:36
And one of them absolutely has gone on record because of Ron and I's meeting with him and

1618
1:44:36 --> 1:44:43
advocacy does not believe that there should be any school vaccine requirements here in California.

1619
1:44:43 --> 1:44:47
He's gone on record. I put it down below Sheriff Chabianco out of Riverside County. So Ron and I

1620
1:44:47 --> 1:44:51
have been doing a ton of work and I know you can't really go on record because of your, of the,

1621
1:44:51 --> 1:44:56
but what are your thoughts on this campaign and the importance in making some, some changes here

1622
1:44:56 --> 1:45:01
in California? And oh, by the way, I was going to ask Charles, is the Chinese communist party on that

1623
1:45:02 --> 1:45:08
pyramid? Cause I know our state is absolutely run and held hostage by the Chinese communist party.

1624
1:45:08 --> 1:45:13
So I'm thinking that- Yeah, the Chinese communist party is at the second lowest level of government.

1625
1:45:13 --> 1:45:19
Wow. Okay. Way above that. The Chinese communist party are taking instructions from that,

1626
1:45:19 --> 1:45:23
the people above them on that pyramid. Yeah. We just had a mayor here in California,

1627
1:45:23 --> 1:45:27
of Arcadia, who was arrested for being a foreign agent to the Chinese communist party and she can't

1628
1:45:27 --> 1:45:32
be the only one. So anyway, thank you. And I will weigh in on the various reports stuff when you get

1629
1:45:32 --> 1:45:40
to it with Albert. So thanks. Thanks a lot, Alex. Great. Thanks Julie. Yeah. So Alex,

1630
1:45:42 --> 1:45:48
what do you think about all the main things that are ridiculous that need to be pointed out to the

1631
1:45:48 --> 1:45:56
public in California then, or maybe you need to think about that. The main things. Well, it's

1632
1:45:56 --> 1:46:02
ridiculous that we just calculated that 25 to 30% of people in the public school community

1633
1:46:03 --> 1:46:08
don't have to have vaccinations and they don't have to provide a medical exemption to do it.

1634
1:46:08 --> 1:46:13
Yeah, that's crazy. That's ridiculous. That's a double standard. And that's jaw dropping.

1635
1:46:15 --> 1:46:19
I think that's the number one thing people should be telling everybody else. So,

1636
1:46:19 --> 1:46:24
you know, if we have a religious exemption or a medical exemption, that's a drop in the bucket

1637
1:46:24 --> 1:46:30
compared to that brook of 25 to 30% of people who just can opt out without doing anything.

1638
1:46:35 --> 1:46:41
To fake their vaccinations certificate. Yeah, that's happening.

1639
1:46:44 --> 1:46:51
I can't say anything else about it. Alex, when I was 19, I was in California

1640
1:46:52 --> 1:46:59
together with 35 other American states and other countries on that trip.

1641
1:47:00 --> 1:47:05
Three months it was, and it was an amazing experience. But I remember in California in

1642
1:47:05 --> 1:47:12
particular, which I really liked by the way then, it was okay. But I remember that there was a kind

1643
1:47:12 --> 1:47:18
of other world atmosphere about California. I don't know what it was. And the people there were,

1644
1:47:19 --> 1:47:24
you know, looking back were incredibly insular. And they thought the whole world revolved around

1645
1:47:24 --> 1:47:30
California. And they had no idea what was going on in Europe. And they were absolutely intrigued

1646
1:47:30 --> 1:47:35
with, I went with a friend, but we split up kind of halfway when we finished working in

1647
1:47:36 --> 1:47:43
Hollywood, California, the Cedars of Lebanon Hospital, actually. And as porters, we were porters

1648
1:47:44 --> 1:47:51
in the Cedars of Lebanon Hospital, Cedars Sinai. And anyway, what was I saying?

1649
1:47:53 --> 1:48:04
I got distracted then. So anyway, we were kind of obviously quite interested in girls at the time.

1650
1:48:04 --> 1:48:10
And they were pretty interested in us because they had never met British people before. We were

1651
1:48:10 --> 1:48:17
too British, you know. And so we were on the beach in Santa Monica and Rodondo Beach and

1652
1:48:19 --> 1:48:24
lots of other beaches. And we didn't have to do anything. They just found us, you know, because

1653
1:48:24 --> 1:48:31
well, as soon as you spoke, they knew the accent, you know. Oh, where's that accent from? Oh, it's

1654
1:48:31 --> 1:48:36
England, UK, United Kingdom. They had no idea what the United Kingdom was. But the point I was trying

1655
1:48:36 --> 1:48:42
to make, I was mystified because I thought they were joking. They had absolutely no idea about

1656
1:48:42 --> 1:48:49
Europe, you know, like France was the capital of, you know, they would struggle with capital of

1657
1:48:49 --> 1:48:55
France, for example. And, you know, London was the capital of Europe. And it was just unbelievable

1658
1:48:55 --> 1:49:00
how ignorant they were then. I don't know whether they're still like this. But I think some, you

1659
1:49:00 --> 1:49:07
know, some people who don't kind of get encouraged, don't know anything, you know, I've seen some,

1660
1:49:07 --> 1:49:13
I can't remember his name now, that guy who lives in New England with a load of cars, you know,

1661
1:49:15 --> 1:49:22
collectors cars. He did a game show where he used to ask questions, you know,

1662
1:49:24 --> 1:49:30
and the level is pretty. I mean, there's one stunning video where there were two girls,

1663
1:49:31 --> 1:49:36
very attractive, very nice personalities, but they knew absolutely nothing. But they thought

1664
1:49:36 --> 1:49:40
it was funny, you know, and they were happy to kind of go along with it. And he's a funny guy.

1665
1:49:40 --> 1:49:49
I can't remember his name. Do you know the name of the guy? Anyway, the point was that the ignorance

1666
1:49:49 --> 1:49:54
of, you know, people who are not ambitious in school, should we say, was unbelievable in

1667
1:49:54 --> 1:50:00
California. I thought they were joking. And then I realized it wasn't. And so what I'm trying to say

1668
1:50:00 --> 1:50:07
is that, you know, you've got a bit of an uphill struggle. If California is the same now as then,

1669
1:50:07 --> 1:50:14
i.e. very insular, you know, and this is California, you know, center of the world,

1670
1:50:14 --> 1:50:19
is it still like that there? You're going to have a very difficult job to turn around public opinion,

1671
1:50:19 --> 1:50:24
I think. But anyway, absolutely. I mean, not only are they not, I find people unaware of what's

1672
1:50:24 --> 1:50:30
going on in the world. I mean, not the people I hang out with. They're very, very worldly and

1673
1:50:30 --> 1:50:39
into politics. But yeah, I mean, among like the more liberal leaning people, I think there's a

1674
1:50:39 --> 1:50:44
lot of ignorance about what's going on. I mean, just the number of people who complied here with

1675
1:50:44 --> 1:50:48
COVID shots and all the lockdown orders just tells the whole story. It was like 80% of Californians.

1676
1:50:49 --> 1:50:53
They don't understand the bigger picture. 80% of California does not understand

1677
1:50:54 --> 1:50:57
the global digital prison agenda here. And they still don't.

1678
1:51:01 --> 1:51:06
So if the level of knowledge is still as low as I said it was, you know, and they're all relying on

1679
1:51:06 --> 1:51:12
their mobile phones and Google to look things up, you know, during the conversation, then there's

1680
1:51:12 --> 1:51:16
not much thinking going on. But having said that, you know, got to start somewhere. So

1681
1:51:17 --> 1:51:23
right, but you living in California would be best to judge and talk through talking to people

1682
1:51:23 --> 1:51:30
where the public is at in California, because if you if you were to present very difficult

1683
1:51:30 --> 1:51:35
concepts or ideas, you know, it might be too much. And I don't know, I wouldn't have a clue,

1684
1:51:35 --> 1:51:39
you know, but you would have a better idea. But even you might have difficulty because you

1685
1:51:39 --> 1:51:46
mix with people who are pretty clued up. So anyway, I just wanted to discuss that with you,

1686
1:51:46 --> 1:51:52
because I think it's important. Yeah, should we take a question from Ronald? Yeah.

1687
1:51:57 --> 1:52:02
Yeah, Julie says something that that triggers something in my mind. Hello, everybody. She noted

1688
1:52:02 --> 1:52:13
about Chad Bianco opposing mandates for children. Steve Hilton, he's gone on record saying that if

1689
1:52:13 --> 1:52:20
he's elected governor, he would form a COVID accountability commission. He said that more than

1690
1:52:20 --> 1:52:29
once. So we have two high polling Republican gubernatorial candidates who are leaning toward

1691
1:52:29 --> 1:52:37
our side of the issue. I want to also make note of this. I used to be involved and was a contributor

1692
1:52:37 --> 1:52:43
Pacific Justice Institute when they began years ago. I used to go on a regular basis to their

1693
1:52:45 --> 1:52:51
advisory board meetings. I haven't been since probably since 2018, 2019, maybe earlier than that.

1694
1:52:51 --> 1:52:58
About a month ago, I get a call asking me to participate in a restoration, excuse me,

1695
1:52:58 --> 1:53:04
in an advisory board meeting tonight. And I'm thinking, why? Wow, that's really interesting.

1696
1:53:04 --> 1:53:10
Sometimes God, he does position people at interesting times. So my question to you,

1697
1:53:10 --> 1:53:18
Alex Meyer, do you know Brad Dacus of the Pacific Justice Institute? And are there any other

1698
1:53:18 --> 1:53:25
messages that I can convey at this advisory board meeting tonight? Tonight, period. Thank you.

1699
1:53:28 --> 1:53:32
Yeah, I've met Brad Dacus. I think he's doing great work. And they've got a huge portfolio

1700
1:53:32 --> 1:53:36
of lawsuits. My eyes popped out of my head when I heard how many lawsuits they have. They have

1701
1:53:36 --> 1:53:45
hundreds. And wait, what was your question about tonight? Yeah, I'm attending an advisory board

1702
1:53:45 --> 1:53:51
meeting tonight. And if there's anything that you want me to communicate to him regarding

1703
1:53:52 --> 1:53:59
pre-nup foundation's agenda, their legal agenda, you know, and do you guys ever?

1704
1:54:00 --> 1:54:04
Just say that there's just mentioned us say that there's three strategies to regain

1705
1:54:04 --> 1:54:10
parental rights around vaccination in California. And free now foundation is pursuing two of those

1706
1:54:10 --> 1:54:16
three strategies right now. And he's most familiar with the religious exemption strategy, which is

1707
1:54:16 --> 1:54:19
not one of the ones we're working on. There are already too many people doing that. So we're

1708
1:54:19 --> 1:54:25
focusing on the ones people are not doing. Okay, I just find it very, very providential

1709
1:54:25 --> 1:54:31
that you happen to be speaking on a Tuesday. And I'll be connected with him later on tonight.

1710
1:54:31 --> 1:54:37
Thank you. Ronald, was that the person you're connected with that? I'm sorry, I wasn't listening

1711
1:54:38 --> 1:54:45
briefly. Was that Brad Dacus? Because you ended up talking about him. Yes, Brad Dacus. He's the

1712
1:54:45 --> 1:54:51
founder of the Pacific Justice Institute. And I'm reading their website description as a non-profit

1713
1:54:51 --> 1:54:57
501c3 legal defense organization, specializing in the defense of religious freedom,

1714
1:54:57 --> 1:55:02
parental rights and other civil liberties. Yeah, so we had him as a guest. I don't know

1715
1:55:02 --> 1:55:08
whether you know that. Or maybe I have. Yeah, I thought I picked up on that. I wasn't involved

1716
1:55:08 --> 1:55:14
with this group at that time. But yes, Brad and I, we go back many, many years. Matter of fact,

1717
1:55:14 --> 1:55:21
when I first met him, PGI was just for me. And matter of fact, my dad and I and him,

1718
1:55:21 --> 1:55:28
we had breakfast here in Sacramento, talking about how to develop their social media activism,

1719
1:55:28 --> 1:55:35
and they've really taken off since then. So Brad Dacus, as I remember, he had

1720
1:55:37 --> 1:55:43
representation all around the United States in just about every state. Yes. Yeah, they started

1721
1:55:43 --> 1:55:50
in California and they have grown exponentially. My late grandmother, my late grandmother,

1722
1:55:50 --> 1:55:57
we used to go to their annual banquets in Southern California. Sorry, I interrupted you.

1723
1:55:57 --> 1:56:03
No, no, no, I interrupted you. The other thing was that they didn't charge their clients,

1724
1:56:03 --> 1:56:06
as I understood it. Is that right? Exactly. That's correct. Yeah. That's how we work.

1725
1:56:06 --> 1:56:10
Where does the money come from then? Yeah, that's a good question.

1726
1:56:11 --> 1:56:15
It comes from donations. I remember asking you about that. It comes from donations. They're

1727
1:56:15 --> 1:56:23
constantly asking people on their list to donate. Just like, Ron, make sure you raise the crowd

1728
1:56:23 --> 1:56:28
funding opportunity for everybody. I'll put it into the invitation for today for your crowd funding.

1729
1:56:28 --> 1:56:33
Please talk about it now, Alex. Otherwise, we'll miss the opportunity. Yeah, please go ahead with

1730
1:56:33 --> 1:56:40
that, Ron. Okay, so basically, as everyone most knows, Julie and I are going from county to county.

1731
1:56:41 --> 1:56:52
She has gone to 34. I've gone to 53. And basically, every board of supervisor will have three written

1732
1:56:52 --> 1:56:58
notifications, one in-person appearance per county from me, excluding what Julie's doing.

1733
1:56:59 --> 1:57:05
She has not only gone to the 34 counties, but she has, at her own expense, copied hundreds of

1734
1:57:05 --> 1:57:12
pages of documents. And either before or after she speaks, she leaves her documentation with the

1735
1:57:13 --> 1:57:24
clerk of the board. So I have this idea of essentially having another layer of documentation

1736
1:57:24 --> 1:57:33
when it comes to making a documentary. And so I reached out to Jennifer Sharp because when I

1737
1:57:33 --> 1:57:38
initially sent my written notification to all 58 county boards of supervisors in July of 2024,

1738
1:57:39 --> 1:57:46
there are 16 sources or footnotes in that five-page PDF. Number 16 is Jennifer Sharp's

1739
1:57:46 --> 1:57:55
anecdotals documentary. She's got an entry, Jennifer Sharp, on the Internet Movie Database,

1740
1:57:55 --> 1:58:04
and she took the vaccine in March of 2021. One part of her face was paralyzed immediately after

1741
1:58:04 --> 1:58:11
the vaccine. She talked to other folks around her, and she decided to document what they went

1742
1:58:11 --> 1:58:17
through. Her documentary, Anecdotals, came out in 2023. I don't remember how I got wind of it.

1743
1:58:17 --> 1:58:25
I watched it two or three times since then. It's very, very moving. And so since she was the 16th

1744
1:58:25 --> 1:58:32
source of that five-page PDF that I sent to all 58 county board of supervisors, to 96 totally elected

1745
1:58:32 --> 1:58:38
officials, I don't know if anyone other board of supervisors saw that, but I just thought she's the

1746
1:58:38 --> 1:58:49
appropriate person to provide another level of documentation. And so basically, I'm really blessed

1747
1:58:49 --> 1:58:59
that Alex and Freenile Foundation is sponsoring the fundraising, and we have a target of $50,000

1748
1:59:00 --> 1:59:10
by September 1st to document me and whoever else will be coming in, probably sometime in September,

1749
1:59:10 --> 1:59:15
or it could be October, at the 58th county at the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors.

1750
1:59:16 --> 1:59:23
So when I'm dead and gone, hopefully we'll hold these officials accountable long before then,

1751
1:59:24 --> 1:59:31
but if we can't hold them in courts, we can hold them accountable in the court of public opinion.

1752
1:59:31 --> 1:59:39
John B., he's not on this Zoom call, he has repeatedly said that the judges reflect what

1753
1:59:39 --> 1:59:46
the people's, what their views are, what their understanding is, what's in their culture.

1754
1:59:47 --> 1:59:52
And the challenge of, and Alex Meyer, the challenge of Julie Three, the challenge of all of us is to

1755
1:59:52 --> 1:59:59
keep informing people, and once people are informed, hopefully that collective

1756
2:00:00 --> 2:00:10
and being informed will result in some sort of judicial response favorable to like this lady

1757
2:00:10 --> 2:00:17
whose only child was murdered, was tortured for more than 30, almost 40 days. It's just despicable.

1758
2:00:18 --> 2:00:25
It's enraging, and that's not even a vaccine issue of the COVID thing. I'm now addressing

1759
2:00:25 --> 2:00:32
hospital protocol. It would be nice to include more aspects of what has done to many people,

1760
2:00:32 --> 2:00:39
not only people being poisoned by the COVID-19 vaccine, but the deaths of the hospital protocols,

1761
2:00:39 --> 2:00:46
the lockdowns, the separations. But I know the more that I mention, the more principles in a

1762
2:00:46 --> 2:00:54
documentary would be included, the more money that would cost. But to the issue that God has

1763
2:00:54 --> 2:01:00
placed on my plate, and it's the poisoning of the COVID-19 vaccines, this documentary would in

1764
2:01:00 --> 2:01:10
essence be another level of documentation that Julie and I were at a particular border supervisor

1765
2:01:10 --> 2:01:13
on a particular Tuesday. Thank you for allowing me to share.

1766
2:01:13 --> 2:01:17
Thanks, Ron. Yeah, we really want you to be successful.

1767
2:01:20 --> 2:01:26
It's a great, it's a really exciting journey. I mean, nobody we know has given comment at all

1768
2:01:26 --> 2:01:32
58 boards of supervisors in California, and Ron might be the first person. So we want to cheer

1769
2:01:32 --> 2:01:37
him on and help him reach his goal and celebrate all the work he's done. He and Julie have been

1770
2:01:37 --> 2:01:43
incredible voices for medical freedom all over the state and that nobody else can say that.

1771
2:01:44 --> 2:01:49
And I want to keep adding, I know I'm going to blush her if she's soliciting and that's Sue Frost.

1772
2:01:50 --> 2:01:56
Sacramento County retired or emeritus, border supervisor Sue Frost. She used to be commended

1773
2:01:56 --> 2:02:02
for probably being the only and the first politician to go on record. This is before I even

1774
2:02:02 --> 2:02:08
knew her to go on record opposing the COVID-19 vaccines when it came out. A matter of fact,

1775
2:02:08 --> 2:02:16
Sue Frost told me about this group when I first met her in April of 2024. And we've had extended

1776
2:02:16 --> 2:02:21
conversations between April and May of 2024. And the first time she mentioned your group,

1777
2:02:21 --> 2:02:25
it just kind of went through one ear and out the other. But the second time she mentioned,

1778
2:02:25 --> 2:02:32
it kind of resonated with me. So I'm here sitting before you in Elk Grove, California,

1779
2:02:32 --> 2:02:37
in Sacramento County because of Sue Frost. So I just wanted to give her her proper respect.

1780
2:02:39 --> 2:02:46
Well, yeah, Sue Frost was with us in 2021, I think. And it was just heartbreaking to listen

1781
2:02:46 --> 2:02:52
to her because maybe it was 20, no, 2021. That's right. Because she was kind of outlining what was

1782
2:02:52 --> 2:02:58
happening in California. And I remember saying to her in all seriousness, why did you just,

1783
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because I realized that she was suffering, you know. Why don't you just leave California?

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And now she has done that. I think she's in, I can't quite remember, Arkansas, is it?

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Is that right, Sue? Well, anyway, maybe she doesn't want to speak. So.

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I know where she's at, but I don't feel comfortable divulging her location unless she consents to do

1787
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so. But yes, she did move out of state. Yeah, but I was very impressed that she wanted to stay

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to fight in California. And I remember thinking when she spoke, it was obvious that things were

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really bad in California. Yeah, I guess I want to say thank you, Ron. It's very kind of you to

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acknowledge me. I'm in Arkansas. I'm in Berryville, Arkansas. I've taken a little bit of

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some downtime to get my energy back because I was so active for so long. And now I'm

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working on reading the Arkansas Constitution and going to meetings and identifying groups that are

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working for responsible government and trying to, I guess, wait for God's inspiration.

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I can't do it unless I know it's where God is inspiring me to go. And so that's

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where I'm at. I worry. I'm concerned every day. And I think we're up against something

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that is bigger than life. And I think a big part of our success and the win in this whole

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scenario is going to be something that simple as there's a certain tipping point, and it doesn't

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take that many people. But there are a lot of people who got the shot, and it's really hard

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to have an open mind to think that you might have done something that hurt you, or you might have

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recommended something that hurt someone you love, or you might have voted on something or stood for

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something that caused the death of many. There are a lot of people who don't know how to face it.

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And that's my opinion. And I think it's hard. I still have my little drip marketing campaign of

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truth marketing to people who I know still subscribe to traditional Western medicine and

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vaccines. But I can't change people. We can't change them. We can only try to tell the truth and

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fight for what's right, I guess, stand up for what's right.

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So anyway, thank you for acknowledging me, Ron. I appreciate that.

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Yeah, so Sue, it's Stephen here. So do you miss California, and will you return to California one day?

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That's a good question. Let me see. I don't look, probably don't look very good today. I've been

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working out on the on the Frost Family Farm. But I miss California so much. And I miss my people.

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I found that the people in Arkansas, you know, you perceive what in from California,

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outward, I perceived that the Midwest or other states that, you know, didn't seem to be

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as dark and, you know, politically, you know, challenging as California were astute, but

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they're not. It's like stepping back into the 50s. They're not necessary. It's not necessarily that

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they're active. It's that the I don't know, there's, there's a real challenge to,

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I guess, I guess what I want to say is the patriots in California are very astute, and

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they know what's going on. They know their constitutional rights. And there's a certain

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clan, the people, you know, in California that I can totally relate to it in Arkansas. I don't

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have that they're they're not as sophisticated. They're not as constitutionally sophisticated,

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they don't know about their rights. And they they're not as engaged as a lot of the citizens

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are in California. And it's by virtue of they have to be in California, they have to be involved,

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or their children could be harmed or whatever you're involved when it touches you personally.

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And in California, it's touching more people personally. But it's coming, everything that's

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happening in California is coming. The the geoengineering, the, you know, the wind turbines,

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the data centers, you know, all that stuff is you can run from the death angel, but you can't hide.

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So what I learned is there is no there's no place we can run to where and I think that's worldwide,

1826
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it's happening worldwide. It's an agenda. And we can we can't run from it. And we're the only ones

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that can change it. And so each of us and it was someone on this call that once said to me,

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because I asked I asked like five questions in one mouthful of words. And he said, Sue, I don't know

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the answer to most of that. I don't know all those answers. I found that I have to focus on what I know

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and and make a difference where I can. And, you know, you can't fix everything, you have to pick

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one thing. And I think that's, that was good advice. That's what I'm trying to figure out what can I,

1832
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where can I make a difference? And what can I, where can I move? You know, what little thing can

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I do to be a powerful part of, you know, changing the desk, you know, the destiny of

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really America, I think America's on the very gonna, America's not going to make it as we are

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today, it's going to change. Our people are so divided, they don't even appreciate they don't

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know who they are. And we could, you know, it's biblical. So we have to, there's a lot of educating

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to do, we each have to decide what part do we play. And so it's really interesting to me,

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Sue, listening to you that you say where there's most suffering, i.e. California,

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that's also where people are most most sophisticated, or at least more sophisticated than

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Arkansas. So it seems to me that in Arkansas and places like that, like Alabama, and, you know,

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the deep south, generally, I think, things haven't kind of those states haven't been taken down like

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California, like the attempts in California. So people haven't needed to be as astute, if you

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understand me. So, but but the fact is that, as you said, you know, you felt when you moved to

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Arkansas that you're moving back to the 50s. And I can understand why you say that, because

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I think in the deep south, for example, churches are full on a Sunday, you know,

1846
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and in the UK, for example, they're not full. And I imagine they're not full in California.

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I don't know about that. But anyway, but but what I'm trying to say is that Alabama, you know,

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Arkansas, and many other states have not been taken down to the extent that California has.

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And so it's interesting, because when I was 19 years old, I was in California. And then,

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even for me as a Brit, you know, you could identify people who thought California was the

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center of the world, you know, I could understand that as well. So kind of superseding everything

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I'd seen in Europe, you know, my parents used to say to me that things come from America,

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and I used to ask why and they didn't know the answer to that. But they just said, that's the

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way it is, Stephen. And they meant that a lot of the stuff coming from America was not good for

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this country. And they were right, of course. So but I think it's so interesting that, you know,

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California, when I was 19 was the center of the world, it seemed, you know, obviously,

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London was pretty important as well. But so far in advance of like New York state, you know,

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which also now, you know, that was at the center of COVID policies, New York state and California,

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as I understand it, because of the population, maybe. But, but, you know, I think California

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was the center of the world then, I felt that as a 19 year old. And maybe that was because I was

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kind of young, you know, and was interested in the life in California, you know, the beaches and

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it was just a magnificently beautiful state, I have to say, but there were other states that

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were beautiful. And it just, I think because of the large population, maybe California was targeted.

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You know, so it's the biggest state in United States of America. So obviously, you know,

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if you're going to look for where they're trying to take down America, it'd probably be the biggest

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state in America, population wise, I think it's 35 to 40 million now.

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Well, it's, we, sorry, we have, we have waterways, we have a border. And the struggle between the

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political parties, you know, their solutions were changed the demographic, they've done that

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worldwide. And I think Alex touched on it, that just this resonates with me, she said those who

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are not, you know, those who have a fake ID are not impacted now. So they're, they're not in the

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fight active in the fight. And so what we have in our world is a changing our society has shifted

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in a way where they have destroyed the family unit, destroyed the sense of community in Arkansas.

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If you break down on the road, the very first car that comes behind you will stop and say,

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are you okay? Do you need help? I mean, the kids in the restaurants say, yes, sir, yes, ma'am,

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and smile and they look at you in the eye, they give you face. It's so different than the children

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that you come into contact across the United States. There's a respect, they've learned respect,

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there's a sense of community and you can tell. So that breakdown started decades ago,

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they've been working on this for decades. We're at the end of it. And now, I don't know how we pull

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back what has been incrementally taken down. They've incrementally taken us down.

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But what I was trying to say was that California has always been at the center of the,

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these nefarious people's intent. You know, they've been thinking to themselves, where do we take down?

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We take down America. How do we take down America? We take down America through California.

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And that's still going on. I don't think it's any accident when I think about it now that

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Hollywood is in California, of course, and Hollywood was the place we made for

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from the UK, you know, as 19 year olds. Well, it's funny, the corporation, the large corporations,

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you know, it's a few people at the top that own all of it. And they own the media, they own the

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message. That's another place where we have lost, you know, we're not tuned in to what's really

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necessarily going on. So it's easy to understand why half of us don't have a clue that there's

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something going on. They're watching the wrong news, that they're watching the media of today,

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which is feeding all, is saying the same message to everyone. And so, and even the alternate media

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that we are listening to, I find a lot of it is fake news also. So, I mean, we're in a trust but

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verify situation. Sure. Thank you so much, Sue. Alex, it's now half plus 10 here. It's half plus

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five where you are, is it? Oh, no, sorry. No, no, no, it's half plus two in California. I was thinking

1894
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you're in New York. But Alex, do you have any comments on what we were just talking about,

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California being, you know, promoted as the center of the world, which is why they

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chose Hollywood to tell all the lies, you know, to seduce people around the world into

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a world, a fake world essentially. And now we can't find anybody in Hollywood who's on our side

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because they're all, they were part of the Hollywood thing. So it's not surprising.

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Are you muted? We can't hear you, Alex. Yeah, we have, we have Hollywood, we have Silicon Valley,

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we have the biggest population of liberals. And we, and we've, yeah, I mean, we're the perfect get.

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I mean, if they can get California, the rest of the United States is going to go down.

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And they've got a lot of people paid into the system between Hollywood and Silicon Valley.

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And it's easy. I mean, it's easy with all the liberals here. I mean, it's, we're pretty easy

1904
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get right now. So I think it's really important for as many people to stay here and fight as long

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as they're comfortable enough to do it. And I don't blame anybody for leaving. But I really

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appreciate the people who remain. Well, actually, I appreciate it before you left very much. You were

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a paragon of hope for so many people. Yeah. Well, I think you were suffering with your suit. But anyway,

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so actually, Alex, it's important, isn't it, that people understand that all these battles

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you're having in Ronald and Julie Street and well, Sue Frost, of course, and then others in

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California as well. It's really important that we understand that it's happening for a reason in

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California that these enemies of ours, you know, whoever they are, they have identified California

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as the means to take out the United States. And that's been going on for a long time.

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Yeah, I mean, I think we're trying, we're deliberately being forced into receivership

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so China can take us over and bail us out. Incredible. Man in the, what's that movie called?

1915
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The Richard Dick book? Man in the High Castle. I don't know if anybody's familiar with that. But

1916
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yeah, that's like a takeover of China from the from the west side and Germany from the east.

1917
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It's a fiction, but maybe not. Take over China from the west from America or

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west. Yeah, the west side of the United States and then Germany from the eastern side. And then

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they're at war for control. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so Jim, thank you. Jim has a question for you.

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Can you on? Okay. I got it. I got to jump. So real quick, Jim. Yeah. Thanks very much.

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Great talk. And God bless you to try to save California. The alternative for the measles

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vaccine may be a medication called Nitezoxinide. It's an antiparasitic that stops the paramaxo virus.

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But Jim, we don't want detail like this. We want something related to what we've been talking about,

1924
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obviously. Yes. So the question is, so the question is, when you're advocating for not

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having the vaccines, do you how can you advocate for the alternatives to be offered to people?

1926
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Yeah, because I think it goes hand in hand. If you don't offer something alternative,

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you say you don't have to take the measles vaccine. We're advocating for that. But

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we need to authorize the alternatives, these antiparasitic that were forbidden,

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that should be actually encouraged. Yeah, people definitely need an off off ramp because they've

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been it's like a taught orthodoxy that there is no other treatment. They're taught to be helpless

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in the absence of vaccines. And so they really do need an off ramp. And that and there I think also

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lies the key in getting away from vaccine mandates. If ideally, if we could provide big pharma with an

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alternative revenue stream that they could have in lieu of vaccinations, then that would be the

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momentum we would actually need as as little as we want big pharma to benefit from the crossover.

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I don't think we have a choice. You have to align align the incentives right up with what you want.

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And that's the only incentive that I know of that will work to get a big chunk of the momentum in

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our favor that an insurance company is there the ones paying for all this carnage. But I've heard

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through the grapevine that their insurance companies get big payments through the back door

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to keep them silent and keep them covering all this chronic illness and covering vaccines,

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even though it causes the chronic illness. Right. And ultimately, everything goes to the city of London.

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Yeah, the insurance company end up in the city of London, which is surrounded by dragons.

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Yeah. So thank you very much for your for your talk. Very, very helpful. Thanks to everybody.

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So very quickly, you'd think wouldn't you that insurance companies would know everything.

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And so it would be in their interest to use the information which they know about from all the

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claims and the risk, you know, risk assessors before they actually issue insurance policies.

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You'd think they'd use that knowledge to kind of chase the truth to eventually

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make money. But but they don't seem to. So maybe they are paid off, as you've just suggested.

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Oh, for sure. Every actuary knows that insurance companies are losing so much money because of

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vaccination. They every actuary has to know that all the data say it. But they are they're

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getting backdoor payments to continue. And we don't know from whom. Wow. Amazing. Because that's

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you just want to know that I could. That's one thing I could never understand when the excess deaths

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were coming out, you know, when it was being realized. I thought, why aren't the insurance

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companies speaking about this? We haven't had a single insurance person or actuary who has talked

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about this and never here's the question. Here's a really quick example. There was a doctor in

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Chicago named Meyer Isenstat or Mayor Isenstat, and the insurance company picked up that there

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was very little autism ADHD learning disabilities at his clinic. And it was a big clinic outside of

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Chicago. And what happened is they came down to Meyer Isenstat by being for being a vaccine

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optional pediatrician instead of saying, oh, my gosh, this data is amazing. What are you doing?

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Let's replicate it. They came down to Meyer Isenstat and I don't know what happened to him. He

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was very large. He lost a lot of weight. And then I think he died around 2015 when there was that big

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spate of 200 dead doctors. So I don't know. I don't know if he was suicided for the good he

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was doing for society or if that was natural because he was very overweight and lost a lot

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of weight really quickly. But they didn't like the fact that he had less autism and less ADHD and

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less learning disabilities there. So the insurance companies know. They absolutely know.

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So the question is, are they paid off by Big Pharma?

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I don't know who they're paid off by, but I'd imagine it's Big Pharma. Yeah.

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Wow. Yeah, it's dark money.

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Yes. Alex, thank you so much for speaking to us and for being so generous with your time.

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Thanks, Stephen. And thank you, Charles. Thank you both for having me on again. It's my great

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pleasure to talk to this very engaged and brilliant group. It's always so fun.

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It's very good. Thank you so much.

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Thanks, everybody. We'll see you next time. Bye.