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So everybody welcome to today's meeting of Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International.
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These meetings in this group were started by Stephen Frost in 2021, a British trained
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medical doctor who's based in Wales to champion truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health
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in the face of global challenges.
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At this time we remember Ryan Oformick and Arno van Kessel, two lawyers who fight for
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freedom and truth.
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Reiner is still jailed corruptly by the German government.
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Arno van Kessel is still being preceded against by the Dutch government.
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He's on bail.
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We ask you to share the news about these courageous men and note that Reiner's birthday is on
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the 9th of May and there will be a major gathering outside the jail that he is at.
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We'll share details about that but that's May the 9th, Saturday May the 9th.
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I'm Charles Covese, your moderator based in Melbourne, Australia.
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This group is a wide blend of voices from all around the world.
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The key strategy of this group in our fight is exposing medical crimes, rallying behind
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the call crafted for us by John Rappaport of Medical Truth Now.
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We want medical truth now.
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And I heard yesterday that Bobby Kennedy announced the banning of mercury in all children's
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vaccines yesterday.
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Medical truth now can unite humanity in the search for accountability of those who suppress
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the truth.
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First time is a warmly welcome.
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Introduce yourself in the chat.
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Where you're from.
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We're in the thick of a global struggle.
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We call it World War 3 with medical and scientific battles among 12 battle fronts.
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The legal battle front is another.
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The spiritual battle front is another.
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We're six years into this fight with more to come so there's no room for weariness.
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Stay strong.
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Stay healthy.
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Our meetings go for two and a half hours afterward.
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Tom Rodman hosts optional telegram video chats.
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Sometimes we stay on this platform.
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We'll hear from our guest presenter Alex Crainer.
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This is the ninth time Alex that we're hearing from you.
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So great to have you back.
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Followed by Q&A.
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Per tradition Stephen Frost opens the questioning for the first 15 minutes.
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This is a free speech haven.
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Free speech is our weapon to safeguard human liberties.
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If something offends you, own it.
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We lovingly sidestep the outrage culture and demands to silence truth because somebody may
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be offended.
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We choose love over fear.
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Fear binds and sickens.
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Love liberates, heals, inspires.
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These twice weekly gatherings are far from mere talk.
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They're birthed real world actions and alliances.
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So let me tell you a little bit about Alex Crainer for the purposes of this recording.
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And Alex, I'm sorry I'm going to make this short.
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I know you could listen to me talking about you for hours.
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Just like I love people talking about me.
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Anyway, Alex Crainer, his Twitter handle is Naked Hedgie.
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He's an author, former hedge fund manager based in Monaco.
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He was born and raised in the socialist regime of former Yugoslavia under one party communist
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At seven he joined a student exchange program in the United States where he took up his
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university studies.
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From there his path led to Switzerland.
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On a scholarship where he completed a degree in business economics and advanced or master's
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program from Switzerland, he moved to Venezuela where he lived for a year and experienced
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his first banking crisis in 1994.
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When nine of Venezuela's 16 largest banks failed and brought the country's economy to
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a grinding halt that year, he returned to his native Croatia and joined the military
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where he served through 1995 through the last phases of Croatia's war of independence.
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In 1996 upon discharge from the military he took employment at an oil trading company
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in Monaco, one thing led to another and 29 years later he's still in Monaco.
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In 2026 years ago Alex wound up his hedge fund's career and set up Crainer Analytics
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to provide turnkey portfolio solutions and trading decisions to support third party investment
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managers.
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Alex has published three books.
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In 2015 he published his first book titled Mastering Uncertainty in Commodities Trading
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and then his second.
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In 2017 he published Grand Deception and the Truth about Bill Browder and the Magnitsky
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And then Alex in 2021 published Trend Following Bible which are free downloads.
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Can you put the website into the chat where we download it?
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Alex, where do we download it?
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He's got two publications on Substack, iSystem Trend Compass which is daily trend following
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newsletter and Alex Crainer's Substack.
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Everything is accessible free of charge except the trading signals which are behind a paywall.
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So Alex where do we download first?
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Well Charles I should explain that's my fault.
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So I couldn't, so when I tried to send the email with hyperlinks which Alex had supplied
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in his bio for some reason BT Internet, BT email tell me that unfortunately unable to
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send the email because of content.
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And I've had this problem before with hyperlinks so I don't know why that is.
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But yeah they're censoring me essentially.
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Yeah all right we got BT Internet you're in the UK so you are in the police now the police
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In fact we should call it the communist republic of the United Kingdom or the Marxist probably
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even better.
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Yeah it's not a bad enough name.
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Alex will put that in the thing and we will find it all the downloads that Alex wants
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us to have he can multitask.
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And Alex you are a co-host you can share your screen at will.
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We are in your proverbial hands.
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You are muted Alex unfortunately.
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Thank you thank you Charles for the great introduction.
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I knew you would shorten it by skipping the best parts but that's okay.
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So I will not share the screen I was going to prepared just a photo slide at the end
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of this but I couldn't find the files I had a few weeks ago a total disk wipeout and I
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suspect that maybe I lost the pictures there but I'll tell you what they are and you'll
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forgive me and you'll take my word for what I was going to show.
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Anyway so the subject I'm going to talk about is the coming Nazification of Europe because
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I thought a light topic would be appropriate for this Sunday.
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So I'll read my remarks so that I'm quick and concise and then we can have a discussion.
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The European economies are sliding into an ever deepening economic crisis.
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At the recent EU leaders summit in Cyprus Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico attacked
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Brussels over EU's energy policies that have made energy so expensive that normal businesses
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cannot survive.
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Fico simply laid out the common sense argument that when electricity prices are three to
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five times what they should be European businesses can compete their sales decline and they have
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to idle their production capacity.
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Those who can move their operations to countries with cheap energy like the United States or
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China do.
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Those who can't small and medium sized businesses may have no other option but to shut down
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operations and go out of business.
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The result is rising unemployment.
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The fact that Europe's economy is already on that declining trajectory is not an accident.
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It's not the result of well-intentioned but misguided policies.
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It's not even the result of policymakers incompetence.
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This is a deliberate plan to destroy Europe's prosperity, erode the living standards and
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create high levels of unemployment, particularly high youth unemployment.
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Europe's energy crisis is part of those deliberate policies going back about two decades.
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At first it was justified by environmental imperatives.
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After the incident of Fukushima, Germany decided to shut down all of its nuclear power plants
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and the last one was shut down almost exactly three years ago on 15 April 2023.
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To cut CO2 emissions and save the planet from global boiling, in 2020 Germany adopted the
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Coal Phase Out Act aiming at full cessation of coal-fired electricity production at the
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latest by 2038.
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To save us from the evil Russian hydrocarbons, huge sanctions have been imposed against Russia
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phasing out imports of crude oil, diesel and natural gas.
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To steal our results and make sure that nobody could change their mind, some mysterious someone
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blew up the Nord Stream pipelines supplying inexpensive Russian gas to Germany on 26 September
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Furthermore, German authorities actively facilitated the blocking of other pipelines providing
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Russian gas, dimming any energy coming from Russia unworthy of German values or industry.
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This all had a predictable effect, a dramatic decline in German industrial production shutting
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down of many industrial facilities and many companies moving their operations overseas.
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I won't dwell on that because people have been following the news, this is not anything
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particularly new I'm revealing.
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If these policies and their predictable results were implemented deliberately then we must
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ask why?
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The reason is that prosperous people with good future prospects aren't keen on fighting
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In his 1993 paper titled Toward the New World Order, the Future of NATO, George Soros wrote
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that quote, if NATO has any future at all, it is to project its power and influence into
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the region, by the region he meant Eastern Europe and former Soviet republics.
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However, since NATO member nations were the world's most advanced economies with a vibrant
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middle class and prosperous populations, Soros noted that quote, the risk of body bags for
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NATO countries was the main constraint on their willingness to act.
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The solution was simple enough, quote, the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe
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with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential of
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the partnership.
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In plain English, Soros was projecting the financier class willingness to fight the Russians
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to the last Eastern European.
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Over the ensuing years, Ukraine would be steadily weaponized for that exact purpose, which precluding
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allowing Ukraine to become an economically successful nation with a vibrant middle class
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and a prosperous population.
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Ukraine had to become an economic backwater and so it was arranged.
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Between 1991 and 2014, Ukraine's economy was the world's very worst performer.
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Its real GDP declined by over 35% over those 24 years.
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She was one of only five nations in the world whose GDP had negative growth.
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The circumstantial evidence that this was not the result of chance is that the second
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and third worst performing economies in the world over that period were also being prepared
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for similar roles against Russia.
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The second worst performer was Moldova with a 29% GDP decline and Georgia was third with
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negative 15% GDP growth.
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All three of these nations had been designated as strategic beachheads or proxies for future
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conflicts against Russia and all three achieved their economic success by following the advice
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of Western financial institutions and advisors.
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The 24 years between the collapse of the USSR in 1991 and 2014 comprised nothing but interminable
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rolling crises and a series of missed opportunities.
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For perspective, consider that in 1987, during the Soviet times, Ukraine's GDP was one fourth
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of that of China.
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By early 2015, it was one 80th.
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It's only when you reach 50% youth unemployment, deprive young people of ways to fulfill their
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aspirations, embark on meaningful careers, get married, set up homesteads and raise families
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that you can begin to radicalize them and encourage them to join far-right organizations
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and armed militias.
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That process took off in earnest after the coup in 2014 following a similar process that
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unfolded in Germany during the 1930s, although history has obscured some of the most pertinent
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lessons of that history.
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As Guido Giacomo Preparata wrote in his masterpiece, Conjuring Hitler, quote, a detailed analysis
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of the emergence of Nazism is generally shunned, so it seems, for it might reveal too much.
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In truth, it might disclose that the Nazis were never a creature of chance.
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For 15 years, from 1919 to 1933, the Anglo-Saxon elites tempered with the German politics with
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the conscience intent to obtain a reactionary movement, which they could then set up as
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a pawn for their geopolitical intrigues.
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Preparata clarified, quote, the Nazi movement owed its success to a general state of instability
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in Germany, which was wholly artificial, a wreckage engineered by the Anglo-American
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clubs themselves.
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Preparata explained that by clubs and elites, he meant the established and self-perpetuating
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fraternities that ruled the Anglo-Saxon Commonwealth.
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These were and still are formed by an aggregation of dynastic groups issued from the banking
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houses, the diplomatic corps, the officer caste, and the executive aristocracy, which
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still remains solidly entrenched in the constitutional fabric of modern democracies.
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One important testimony of that time was the book, The Vampire Economy, by a German financier,
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Gunter Reimann, published in 1939.
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Reimann, whose real name was Hans Steinecke, chronicled the dramatic changes to industrial
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structures under the Nazis.
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And I believe that some of this will sound eerily familiar to you.
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Reimann lamented, quote, the decline and ruin of the genuinely independent businessman who
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was the master of his enterprise and exercised his property rights.
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This type of capitalist is disappearing.
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Between 1933 and 1939, a nation of enterprises and small shopkeepers was converted to a corporate-dominated
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machine that gutted the middle class and cartelized industry in preparation for war.
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The Nazi party made itself the central regulator of all enterprises.
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They crushed independent family-owned small and medium-sized businesses in favor of large
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politically connected corporations.
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Of course, the small and medium-sized enterprises are the main engine of growth and employment
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in any market-oriented economy.
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Their destruction swelled the ranks of unemployed Germans, creating the dry tinder for the radicalization
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of the population, which gave rise to Ernst Röhm's Nazi storm troopers or the SA or brownshirts.
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Until 1930, there were only a few hundred of them.
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But in 1933, when Hitler took power, their ranks swelled to between two and three million.
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Going from a few hundred to two to three million brownshirts takes a lot of unemployed young men.
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It also takes a lot of capital and political power.
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Someone would have to fund this and see it through.
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Our next question is why?
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What is the purpose of the SA?
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What was the purpose of SA?
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Ostensibly, it was to restore order and oppose the communist movement in Germany, but their
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real purpose was to intimidate any opposition to the Nazi party and to terrorize the German
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population into submission.
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As we saw by 2014, Ukraine's economy was eviscerated.
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Its people and businesses had already been pushed to the limit and then some.
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More than 25% of Ukraine's population was living below the official poverty line, which
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corresponded to a monthly income of $127 or less, corresponding to only 52 cents per hour.
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In reality, the percentage of Ukrainians living in poverty was much higher since the average
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salary at the time was $131 or 54 cents per hour.
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Such crushing poverty is the fertile grounds for chaos, instability and radicalization.
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In a press conference on 8 March 2014, Vladimir Putin commented on the situation in Ukraine
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as follows, quote,
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You have to understand that this kind of chaos is the worst possible thing for countries
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with a shaky economy and unstable political system.
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In this kind of situation, you never know what kind of people events bring to the fore.
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Just recall, for example, the role that Erzström stormtroopers played during Hitler's rise
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to power.
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Later, these stormtroopers were liquidated, but they played their part in bringing Hitler
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to power.
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This can take all kinds of unexpected turns.
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And in fact, as late professor Stephen Cohen opined in 2018, quote,
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Kiev is semi-hostage to armed ultra-nationalist battalions whose ideology and symbols include
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proudly neo-fascist ones which hate Russia and today's Western civilizational values
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almost equally.
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These views were confirmed by Foreign Policy magazine in a March 2014 article titled Yes,
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There Are Bad Guys in the Ukrainian Government.
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Its author stated that a sizable portion of Kiev's current government are indeed fascists.
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Nazification of Ukraine was so blatant that even the supine EU parliament took notice.
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Early in December 2012, they denounced Svoboda party for its racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic
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views which go against the EU's fundamentals, values and principles.
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In 2013, World Jewish Congress also denounced Svoboda as a neo-Nazi organization.
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The right sector party, if anything, was considered even more extremist than Svoboda.
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Unsurprisingly, an atmosphere of fear and persecution of Russian people and other minorities
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became pervasive in Ukraine.
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The media intensified a campaign of Russophobic hysteria giving ample space to sundry crusaders
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for a racially pure Ukraine who systematically dehumanized Russians calling them cockroaches,
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mosquitos, ogres, Colorado beetles and other derogatory names.
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The new Minister of Culture called the Russian speaker's imbeciles and proposed jailing them.
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Prime Minister Yatsenyuk referred to them as subhumans and his defense minister proposed
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putting them into filtration camps.
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Yatsenyuk's political patron, Yulia Tymoshenko, had a more radical solution in mind when she
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publicly mused about exterminating all Russians with nuclear weapons.
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I'm afraid that the same process we've seen in Germany in the 1930s and in Ukraine last decade
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is slowly taking shape in Europe today.
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We see steady economic decline in Europe which is hitting small and medium-sized enterprises
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and family-owned businesses the hardest.
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At the same time, hundreds of billions of dollars are being allocated to the military
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industrial complex.
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European politicians are all talking war and mobilizations and conscription is being planned in many countries.
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While the brown shirt movements are not yet on anybody's radar, they are being incubated.
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I had a few dozen photos of tiki torch marches in many European cities across Great Britain,
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the Netherlands, Germany, Poland, France, Italy, Austria, Hungary, Croatia and Spain.
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But unfortunately a few weeks ago I had a total disk wipeout and so I was not able to find them
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to share them with you today as visual proof.
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Anyway, at first when these groups are exposed to the public, their marches seem harmless and ordinary.
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The placards will say something that people can relate to, protecting Christians, dealing with the immigrants,
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restoring order or some such thing.
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But with time the most aggressive segments of these groups will deal with politicians,
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media editors, judges and anti-war activists.
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In later stages they will run the press gang groups kidnapping young men to send them to the front
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as we've seen in videos posted from Ukraine every day now.
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I believe that we must be vigilant.
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Over a million Ukrainians have been sacrificed in the occult oligarchy's war against Russia.
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In spite of the fact that the Russians did not want, that the Ukrainians did not want to fight.
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The fact that European populations aren't inclined to pick up arms should not make us complacent.
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We must watch for these developments and push back as if our children's lives were depending on it, because they do.
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And when I say that the oligarchy will never give up,
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I want to give you just a brief history about Western relations with Russia.
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So in June 1812 Napoleon led his 600,000 troops strong Grand Darmée to conquer Russia.
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It was the largest invasion force ever assembled and it was not a French invasion, only a French-led invasion.
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It brought together regiments from many European nations including France, Poland, Spain, Italy, Austria, Bavaria,
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Saxony, Westphalia, Netherlands, Croatia and Hungary.
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That didn't go so well and Napoleon's invasion disintegrated within six months.
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In June 1941 Hitler assembled a much larger invasion force, counting 3.8 million troops,
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3,600 tanks, 2,700 aircraft and tens of thousands of artillery pieces.
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Again, it was not a German invasion, but a German-led invasion, codenamed Operation Barbarossa.
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It contained troops from most European nations, Germany, Finland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Croatia, Spain, Italy, Austria, Romania and Bulgaria.
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Also Sweden, Netherlands and Belgium set their contingents.
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These were two of the largest invasions of Russia, but they were only two out of many.
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Other invasions took other forms and I will just give you a brief rundown from the beginning.
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Not really from the beginning, but let's say from the less controversial beginnings.
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First was the Polish-Slythuanian invasion in 1598 until 1613.
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This was during the times of troubles the invaders attempted to place a Polish king on the Russian throne.
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Polish forces managed to occupy Moscow from 1610 to 1612, but were ultimately driven out by Russian militias.
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Second, Swedish invasion of 1700 until 1721.
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The Great Northern War was led by Sweden's King Charles XII.
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His troops invaded Russia in 1708 and it ended the Battle of Poltava in 1709.
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Then there was the French invasion in 1812. Then there was Crimean War from 1853 through 1856.
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While this was not a full-scale invasion, it was another attack on Russia by a British-led coalition of the willing.
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It included French, Sardinian and Ottoman troops.
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Then there was World War I. Germany, together with Austria-Hungary, launched a major offensive against Russia on the Eastern Front.
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Poland once more attempted to invade Soviet Russia in an attempt to expand its territory and create a buffer zone.
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Then there was the Soviet Civil War from 1918 through 1922.
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Overlapping with World War I and the Polish invasion, Russia experienced a civil war during which tens of thousands of Western troops from Great Britain,
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United States, Poland, Czechoslovakia and Japan invaded Russia and helped stabilize the Bolshevik regime.
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To this day, Western history books falsely teach that Western troops attempted to help the Tsarist White forces against the Communist Reds,
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which was the official narrative at the time.
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In reality, Western troops consistently weakened the Whites and helped the Reds.
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Between seven and twelve million Russians died from combat famine and disease in those years.
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Then there was World War II, Operations Barbarossa.
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And then there was finally the 1990s transition to capitalism.
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This wasn't an invasion, but it was a successful insertion of a large toxic Trojan horse into Russia.
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Its effects were no different to a major war. Until Vladimir Putin took power, Russia was entirely ruled
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by Western financial interests through their appointed trustees, or as we know them today, Russia's oligarchs.
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The nation's GDP dropped by about 50 percent, even more than it did during World War II.
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According to World Bank, 74 million Russians, more than 50 percent of the population,
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lived in poverty and half of them, half of those people who lived in poverty, lived in destitute poverty.
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Russia's death rates increased by 60 percent to a level only experienced by countries at war.
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Surplus deaths during the 1990s were estimated at five to six million, between 3.4 and 4 percent
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of the total population of Russia. For perspective, consider that during the
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course of World War II, the United Kingdom lost 0.94 percent of its population,
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France lost 1.35 percent, China lost 1.89 percent, and the United States lost 0.32 percent.
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The last on this list should be the Ukraine War, which started in 2014 in reality,
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and is another attempt to destabilize and destroy Russia through a proxy of Ukraine.
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I'll end my remarks with a quote from Andrew Lobaczewski from his book, Political Ponerology,
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because it's relevant. It's a little bit lengthy, but I'll just take two minutes.
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I'll just take two minutes.
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Quote, thus, the biological, psychological, moral, and economic destruction of the majority
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of normal people becomes for the pathocrats a biological necessity. Many means serve this end,
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starting with concentration camps and including warfare with an obstinate, well-armed foe who will
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devastate and debilitate the human power thrown at him, namely the very power jeopardizing
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pathocrats rule. The sons of normal men sent out to fight an illusory noble cause. Once safely dead,
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the soldiers will then be decreed heroes to be revered in pants, useful for raising a new
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generation faithful to the pathocracy and even willing to go to their deaths to protect it.
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To encourage Britons into the ranks of cannon fodder, a certain degree of desperation,
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insecurity, and hunger will have to be engineered into the social mix.
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Thus, destruction of agriculture and food production are afoot. Tens of thousands of
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small and medium-sized businesses are on the verge of bankruptcy, and more than 1.4 million people
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in Britain have been disconnected from the energy grid in the middle of the winter
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because they can't afford to pay their bills. This is the developed nation whose government
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officials go around the world lecturing others about freedom, democracy, human rights, prosperity,
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and always our virtues. So the conclusion would be that we are now facing a social engineering
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process that might result in the populations of European nations like Great Britain, like Germany,
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Poland, France, Bulgaria, Hungary, and so forth to become weaponized again for a war against Russia,
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which is being planned for 2029-2030. This is openly being talked about.
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I will conclude with that and open for question and discussion. Thank you for your attention.
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Thank you, Alex. Good job. I point out, and you started with energy costs.
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Available and affordable electricity, Alex, as you well know, is the foundational difference
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between rich and poor countries. If you want to impoverish a country, you attack its energy supply,
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as we've heard many times in this group, that the whole climate fraud has been around restricting
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energy availability. So everyone, please understand that energy equals GDP. For those who had an audio
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problem, I discovered what my problem was, that I had my setting and just by the way, Jerry, if you
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want to play your guitar or Alex, if you want to play your guitar on Zoom, you have to change your
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audio settings. Tom, is it better now, my audio? Because on audio, if you want to play a guitar,
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you have a choice. You have a choice, everybody. When you click on audio, you have to pick
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on microphone modes. Noise removal is the normal. That's what I'm on now. But if you want to play
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musician, you click on original sound for musician. So there you are, Alex, when you want
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people to listen to you on Zoom playing your guitar, that's what you do. And I forgot to
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unclick it, Alex. So you guys didn't hear any of my guitar playing? We totally missed it.
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They were entertaining us and it wasn't there. Having met Charles up front, you know, having
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had a few points with him. Charles feels just as bad in the flesh as he does on the video,
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you know. He really does. I know it's hard to believe, but that's true.
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All right. And then last thing before we go to Stephen, Alex is home ownership. And you didn't,
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you touched on it a little bit. I was interested some months ago, JD Vance acknowledged the problem
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of youth not being able to buy homes, same problem here in Australia. And Robert Menzies
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was the Prime Minister of Australia from 1949 to 1966. And he got home ownership up to 78%
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of the population. And that was a deliberate policy, because countries that have high home ownership
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have definitely preferred success than countries with low home ownership. And the strategies that
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you raise, Alex, remind us that if young people can't buy homes and create a future, the state
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of hopelessness becomes real. One other data point that you might check. I was told by a genius,
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please write this down, Alex, and you might do some research on it. That quote everybody,
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the average age of decision makers in countries is dropping by 10 years every two years.
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In which countries?
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Every country, the average age of decision makers is dropping by 10 years every two years. So
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if it's 60 now, in 2028, it'll be 50. In 2030, it will be 40. And that ties into Alex's point. So
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this whole youth decision making age group, very interesting. And I also point out that Victor
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Orbán became Prime Minister of Hungary for the first time in 1998 when he was 37.
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1998, when he was 37 years of age, and he's 69. He was born in 1961. So he is 65 now, after
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that first four years and then 16 years. So Alex, that youth issue is a huge, huge
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demographic challenge that you bring to our attention. And I want all of you to think about
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it and think about it. And JD Vance said, we have to do something about housing affordability for
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youth. Alex, any thoughts before we go to Stephen? Yeah, Charles, this quote that you just told us,
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dropping by 10 years every two years, where's that from? Where'd you get it?
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I will give you that source. A wonderful, genius researcher in Australia, 83 year old
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futurist called Colin Benjamin. But Charles, it's been rubbish because by 2038. Stephen,
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don't tell us that something that I say is rubbish from a good resource. Do not dare do that.
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The researchers. Sorry, what is a decision maker? Only a wife. So wives are getting younger.
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Let's face it, you know that Charles. Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good.
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So Alex, that's the source of it. I will get some more for you offline. Okay. Yes.
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So and the decision, the decision makers are clearly the wives, Jerry. So we are mere puppets
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in the hands of others. Alex, anything else before we go to Stephen? Well, no, I mean,
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let's have a discussion because this is something I could go on literally forever because it's a
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huge subject. And I've gone into really minute detail about how all this has happened in Ukraine.
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And then in the less minute detail about how it happened in Germany. But, you know, the problem is
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how do you convey it in 20 minutes in a 20 minute thing? So I better not,
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we better go into questions and answers and then some of this stuff will come out. Beautiful.
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All right. So thank you for that overview. Excellent overview, Stephen, for the next 15 minutes.
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So Alex, as I see it, the age of so-called decision makers is dropping, but it can't be dropping 10
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years every two years. So because then it would be 2026 is 60, 2028, 50, 2030 it'd be 40, 2032
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it'd be 30, 2034 it'd be 20, 2036 it'd be 10. And by 2038 we'd have decision makers zero years old.
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So it's just nonsense. And that's why I said it was nonsense because if you understand maths
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or arithmetic, you see that immediately. So when you said it, Charles, I thought that's crazy
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research. You know, it's nonsense anyway. So that's not against you, Charles, but it's against the
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stupid research that you're quoting. So anyway, Alex, thank you so much for speaking to us.
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I just wonder, so the whole thing about natification of Europe is a continuation
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or a parallel policy, shall we say, to COVID to kind of make people despair, essentially,
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to take them away from their possibilities as human beings and to kind of weaponize them
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for the system, for the warring system. And they're going to wage war on Russia. Can I ask you,
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what do you mean by waging war on Russia? Do you mean just kind of sending a few rockets over there
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or are they intending to invade? No, no, I mean, all out war, all out war. You know, a kind of
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exactly what's going on in Ukraine now, but on a wider front. Kind of like a big war on the European
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continent. But Alex, so I'm not very good about war, you know, but it seems to me that if you wage
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war on Russia, is your intention to invade Russia, you know, eventually take over the whole of Russia,
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six and a half million square miles? Or is it just to kind of do what Ukraine's doing, you know,
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allegedly defending its territory? But, you know, apparently some people believe that
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Ukraine can actually defeat Russia, which is nonsense, in my opinion. So can you just?
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Well, let's say that on the face of it, the whole thing would seem so idiotic and so stupid that
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reasonable people shouldn't try to do that, you know, because if they invaded Russia in 1941 with
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3.8 million troops, and you know, it wasn't just 3.8 million troops. Within a year, the number of
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troops swelled to 6 million. Today, we couldn't even dream about putting together 60,000 troops
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to invade Russia, right? So it would seem like a completely idiotic idea. But it seems to me that
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two important objectives are pursued. One of them is to slaughter as many fighting-age males of the
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European populations as possible. And two is to keep the war going as long as possible.
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Because the idea is, of course, you cannot invade Russia and conquer it.
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But what you can try to do is weaken Russia and then try to affect regime change
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so that you can install some kind of a Vladimir Zelensky in the Kremlin.
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And the reason why they need to slaughter a lot of fighting-age males of European descent
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is because our system is imploding. Our systems are falling apart. They first need an enemy for
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social cohesion. But then they also need, you know, always throughout history in these oligarchic
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colonialist regimes that emanated from European financial capitals,
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generally the rule led to mayhem abroad, misery at home. And when things get really miserable at home,
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you have social uprisings. You have risk of revolution. You have risk of civil wars.
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And of course, your most significant source of risk are fighting-age males. So what you do then,
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and this has been going on since the Roman times, is the oligarchy says, barbarians at the gate.
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And then they get all the fighting-age males to go and defend their homes, which is, you know,
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the patriotic duty that men always fall for because, you know, they tell us stories about,
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oh, they're going to come, they're going to rape our women, they're going to sack our villages and
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towns, they're going to enslave our children or kill them. So, you know, the whole propaganda
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machine ramps up and gets the men to volunteer to go to fight wars. But if they don't want to,
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then they're forced to go. And so I understand that you're asking question because the whole
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thing seems completely stupid, and it is, but I think that even this oligarchy that's ruling over
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us, I think they're quite stupid, but they're not that stupid. They understand that they can't
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conquer Russia militarily. They just need the war to keep going, get rid of the men,
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and bleed Russia dry because hopefully at some point the government will fall,
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and we're going to slip in our own Zelensky, Juan Guaidó, whoever, Shahrez Apahlavi, whoever's available.
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I think that's the point. That's the, that's the course. So, Alex, I've already had this chance in
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1991, so why did they mess it up? Well, in 1991, they went in, Stephen, they went in, they put their
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guy in the Kremlin. His name was Boris Yeltsin. Boris Yeltsin was surrounded by Western advisors,
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and virtually the whole of Russia's economy was controlled by a handful of oligarchs.
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That period was called the rule of seven bankers, and all seven were trustees of people like George
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Soros, Edmund Safra, Jacob Rothschild, and so forth. That was the period when Russia
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almost completely disintegrated. This is the period that I described in 1991, when they lost
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half of their GDP, when mortality increased by 60 percent, life expectancy for men shrank to 57 years,
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half the population was poverty, quarter of the population was in destitute poverty,
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and the whole country was a failed state. And then came Vladimir Putin. But remember, at that time,
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we were not... Western powers loved Boris Yeltsin. Clinton was there very often. He would laugh and
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joke around with Boris Yeltsin. Everybody loved him. He was the Democrat. He was reforming Russia.
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Russia was going to become a wonderful civilized state, part of the West, and so forth,
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except that was all a lie. Russia was turning into a colony of Western capital.
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When Vladimir Putin came to power, the average monthly salary in Russia was $57.
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What Putin did, which ticked off the Western oligarchs, the real ones, not the trustees in
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Russia, was that he lined up all his oligarchs almost immediately after he came to power within
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a few months, and he told them new rules of the game. Keep your businesses, make your money,
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but you have to pay your taxes correctly, and you have to stay out of politics. And they didn't like
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that. And so this fight between Putin and the oligarchs went on for a few years. And then in 2003,
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Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who was the trustee for Jacob Rothschild and the wealthiest of the Russian
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bankers, he tried to challenge Putin politically, and he ended up in prison. And he stayed in
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prison for nine years. And so from that point on, Putin became public enemy number one for the West.
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And we've been having 24-7 demonization of Vladimir Putin in the Western media.
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And this situation has kind of escalated to where we are now. They tried to take
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down Putin to regime change the country through the proxy war through Ukraine.
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That didn't really work. They're about to run out of the last Ukrainian. And so they have now
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began the process of social engineering to do with European countries what they have done with
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Ukraine before. That is to weaponize them, to destroy the economy, to create high-youth
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unemployment, to radicalize the youth. And then at some point, how do you call it?
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You start building the cause for war. And usually you might need a false flag attack of some sort,
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like some sort of a 9-11. Blame it on Russia and say, okay, now we have to all go to war because
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the Russians attacked us. Look what they did to us. Blah, blah, blah. You know, what Desmet would call
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mass formation psychosis. Mass formation, yeah. Yeah. So that is probably planned
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at some point in the future, but they can't do it quite yet because it would dissipate until 2030.
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But Alex, so I can understand that you really understand this, you know. But I think that
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I've only got a couple of minutes left to ask this question. So I just wanted to say that
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so essentially the West bled through Western interests, bled Russia dry. And it was so bad
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that they kind of, that Putin came along because he was necessary for Russia. So he came along and in
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2003, he imprisoned this guy who had loads of money and was working for the West, essentially,
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as I see it. And then the tide began to turn. They didn't like that. But it seems to me that the West
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are so damned corrupt, you know, they bleed Russia dry in 1991 and they do it throughout the
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90s and early 2000s. And then they are not happy when Putin comes along and exposes them. But the
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greed and the corruption was always going to result in someone rising up in Russia like Putin.
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So why is it of such great interest? Is it just that they want a war going on and on and on
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because that makes money for the weapons dealers or whatever, you know? Or is it because they want to
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destabilise Russia in the long term? They don't like it succeeding, if you like. So, but every
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country has a right to exist, I would say. And this policy that you say Europe is pursuing is just
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absolutely crazy. And we need to, so what do we do about it, Alex?
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Oh, what do we do about it? I think that, well, you know, that when they say price of freedom is
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eternal vigilance, I think that we have to be extremely vigilant, because these things are
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going to be happening. We're probably in the initial stages of the social engineering process.
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And what we can see now is hundreds of billions of dollars being allocated to the military industrial
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complex, economy being completely destroyed. We see our politicians talking about conscription,
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about going to war. But we have to also watch out for these brown shirt movements, because they,
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in the end, are going to lead to a radical change, meaning you're not going to be able,
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they're going to attack opposition with violence. They're going to saw terror in societies.
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You know, when this was going on in Ukraine, you had about 30 or so of these far right neo-Nazi
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battalions or groups that were formed, that were funded by private capital, almost all of them.
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And they would attack anti-war activists, they would attack peace activists.
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The activists of the members of the C14 group, one of these far right neo-Nazi groups,
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attacked at one point and tried to kill one of the anti-war activists in Ukraine.
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So you completely silence opposition to war. So I think that we need to be prepared for this.
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We need to be finding out who is funding this, because you know, the people who pull the trigger
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are the smaller problem. The bigger problem are people who are paying them. And this is not just
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Europe, you know, this is going on in the United States. And we know that it's been European
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billionaires who have been funding these no-king protests, for example, in the United States.
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There's a whole bunch of these non-government organizations that are funding
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you know, Antifa. There's a lot of these organizations, Black Lives Matter and so forth.
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So it's always coming from the financial oligarchy somehow, but it's going through NGOs.
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It's also going through international organizations because they are exempt,
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they have legal immunities in most countries.
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Organization like World Health Organization, right? They're immune. They are not, you know,
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you can do nothing against them legally. But you also have organizations to fight racism,
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to fight... They always give them these names that people say like, oh, you know,
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this is a worthy cause. But when they go out and fight racism, very often they instigate racism,
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they instigate polarization between different groups. They end up funding like armed wings
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of organizations like Black Lives Matter. And this all passes under the radar as, oh, we're just
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trying to fight racism. And so we're going to have the same thing happen among us. I think that the
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start is talking about it, paying attention to what's going on, calling out what's going on and
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not falling for, you know, when you see Tiki Torch marches with placards that say, protecting the
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family integrity or saving the Christian traditions or something like that. You have to understand
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that these Tiki Torch marches in the end end up press gangs that will kidnap men and send them to
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the front. So Alex, I think you, you know, you've spoken so fantastically tonight and previously,
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but I think you probably have the ability to write a kind of history of what you think has
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happened, you know, in the lead up to 1989 and 1991 and what has happened since. So you've kind of
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woken me up to what's going on. And it all makes sense. It's all connected. And you know, you can
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see the COVID thing. It's all about COVID was part of it. Absolutely. Yeah. And also the climate
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change nonsense, you know, and so much more. So nothing makes sense. And I think that what they're
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doing, they're deliberately creating this nothing makes sense atmosphere so that people are willing
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to join cults and essentially destroy themselves as human beings. Yes. And so I think this can be
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explained, you know, quite simply in simple words, and it needs to be explained because only by
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educating people as to the broad brush things which are going on in our lives now will people
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begin to understand that actually the fact that they can't afford a house in the UK, for example,
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young people is part of the plan. But the point that needs to be made is the people who have these
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plans have no regard for human beings. And they don't care about human beings. They don't even
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care about their own families, their own children, their own grandchildren. And it's all-
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Well, Stephen, they're saying they want to create a different species. They already talk about us
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as hackable animals. Yes, but we need to discredit these people. So people like George Soros, you know,
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a lot of people don't understand. It's not just him. There are loads of others, you know, and they
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are willing to do anything in their pursuit of money, influence, power, sex, yeah, anything.
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Yes. Thank you so much. Thank you, Stephen. All right. Well done, Stephen. We've got lots of hands up.
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So the speed with which we get through these, Alex, will depend on the speed of your responses,
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but don't cut them short because you're, you know, don't stress about that. And thank you.
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Gerry, you're next from downtown Ireland, everybody. Hi, Alex. I'm Gerry Waters. I always feel when I
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command this, I have to introduce myself because unlike you, I've never been asked to present on
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this particular forum, you know, and in spite of the fact that I feel I'm an expert, I'm the expert
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in the world on COVID. And the reason I say that is I had 40 years experience as a GP. And then when
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COVID was actually introduced as a psych op, I recognized it as a psych op. I instantly
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recognized as a psych op. And that has been proven statistically that I was right. Unfortunately,
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I was rejected by pretty much everybody, including the people on my side of the battle.
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I was ostracized by everybody, by the people who wanted to go down the road of hydroxychloroquine
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and the various miracle drugs. However, that's not what I want to complain about. That's just
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my little personal gripe. I watched you and Professor Jiang coincidentally two days ago.
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That was two hours and 10 minutes you took from my life. Unfortunately, I don't want it back
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because it was brilliant. It was truly a brilliant piece of work. He's obviously highly intelligent
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and informed, which made you bookends, you know. You obviously got on very well with him. He's
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quite a guy, isn't he? Yes, yes, yes. But what you were talking about is this war as Charles
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every week introduces this meeting about being at war. And there's a question of the question
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all of us is asked, it's asked of me, who are they? Who are they? You know, we talk about they do this
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and they do that. And as I say, who are they? They are obviously the Bill Gates, the Soros, the
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Schwab. In Ireland, we've got Leo Veradker, we've got Macron, we've got the various, the Obamas,
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the Clintons, you know, the elites. It doesn't really matter who they are. They are a group of
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people. And when I went into college in the early 70s, I started, I had a major debate with
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who personally turned out to be the Irish president, Michael D Higgins on communism
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and socialism. And the object, I was always a contrarian. It didn't really matter what
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the topic was. I was on the other side, but I was against, you know, socialism and communism.
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I was against global cooling for 10 years until they switched to global warming. I was against
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global warming for 30 years until they switched to climate change. I'm against climate change.
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And then, lo and behold, it came COVID, as I say, a psych-op. It was all run by the same people,
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by the same cartel. And this is what yourself and Prof. Jiang, as I remember, were saying,
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that it's, this is a battle. Now, the point I'm trying to make is COVID is the bridge too far.
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That is the one we can get them on, because it affects and directly affects, and can be proven
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to affect billions of people, literally tens of millions, hundreds of millions of people.
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It's very hard to get them on global warming, global cooling, climate change. It's even difficult
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to get them on, you know, many of the wars that the cause is across the world. But I firmly believe
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that we should concentrate. But, you know, again, I would do, wouldn't I, because I'm a medical doctor.
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And as I say, I'm somewhat an expert on COVID, because I've read nothing else,
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well, apart from listening to you, over the last couple of years, COVID is the bridge too far.
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And I think that should be pushed. It's coming out statistically that COVID killed nobody
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during 2020. What killed people was neglect, mandated neglect, pneumonia. We as GPs were paid
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to send people home, to do telephone consultations and send patients home, to sit in one room.
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The absolute ideal milieu for pneumonia. Sitting around doing nothing with an
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upper-aspiratory tract infection. Terrified. The fluids don't drain. You know, in a hospital,
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people get in physiotherapy. If you tell people to sit, you'll get what I refer to as mandated
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neglect pneumonia. And that's what people are dying of. And then when they went in with the
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hoax PCR test, they were treated as if they had a viral pneumonia. You don't get a viral pneumonia,
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you get a viral pneumonitis. The point really is, the major blunder they made, the bridge too far,
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was in fact COVID. And I think more people like you should be pushing that. I know you mentioned
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it on that chat two days ago. But overall, you know, as I say, I would as a doctor, push this.
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But that's really where we, more people should be pushing and more people who actually know the
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subject. Not the Paddy Cumb Lately's who got their vaccines and then suddenly turned, you know, into,
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you know, into disciples. I accept those people. But some of us in February of 2020 got it and
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argued. And I've got it documented. My arguments are documented in the Irish High Court. That in
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February, March 2020, I was arguing that in fact there was nothing there. And there was nothing
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there. So that's the point. That, you know, if we're going to go after them, whoever they are,
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that was the bridge too far. That was the mistake they made. And if we let that slip,
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if we let that slip and don't attack them on what I consider the weakest point,
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we'll be making a mistake. Sorry about all that. Why are you sorry? Well, because I keep going on.
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I can see Stephen is about to tell me to ask a question, you know.
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Well, you know, I think that COVID was brilliant because it opened many, many people's eyes.
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Yes. Yes. I also was convinced from day zero that it was a hoax because I've paid attention to
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this pandemic since about 2003. You know, we had SARS and MERS and. Yeah, that was 09.
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Swine flu in 2009 was terrible. And they came up with a stupid
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Pfizer. Yeah, I wouldn't let the vaccine into my clinic. I wouldn't allow it into my clinic.
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I told my staff to refuse it at the door. Right. It would deliver it to all clinics.
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So I think the good thing is that and I have written a few articles about that and I wrote an
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article. You know, the only important article that I wrote about it was that it's the bankers who
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are behind it. There's no doubt about that. Yeah. So, you know, I hear you mentioned
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a number of politicians and Varadkar and, you know, there's many, many, many, but they are all,
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you know, the executive class, the managerial class.
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Wherever you see you find human blood flowing in rivers, one name always comes up and that's
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the Rothschilds. Yeah. They turn up with, well, they were the employees of Jeffrey Epstein.
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So all the shit that Epstein was doing, he was the manager, but they were the people who were
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paying him. So they're up to their eyeballs in Russia. They're up to their eyeballs in
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Ukraine. They're up to their eyeballs in Iran. They're up to their eyeballs in Gaza and Lebanon.
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And the list goes on and on and on. And so, you know, I traced the problem that we are facing to
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the monetary system before I knew who was behind it. And the monetary system is exactly the shackles
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that are, because look at what they do to people. They, how do you call it? They sanction them.
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By countries? No, no, no, no, countries, people. They're now sanctioning people,
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which means that if they decide to sanction Dr. Jerry Waters, tomorrow you can go to your bank,
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you can no longer receive any money, you can no longer pay a single bill, you cannot buy food.
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You are, this is like modern form of ostracism. And that means that your life is basically ended.
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You cannot get a job, you cannot work, you cannot do anything. And even people who are dependent
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on you are screwed. You know, if you had children to raise, you would not be able to provide for
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them anymore. It's the banks who are doing it. It's not a court case. It's not a, they don't
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like accuse you of a crime, then inform you of the accusations, then give you a chance to defend
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yourself. Then a judge or a jury decides according to law. No, the Council of Europe simply puts you
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on the list and now you're done. There's no recourse. It doesn't expire. It's not for one year,
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for two years, for six months, for 10 years, you're done. You're over and you have no recourse.
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Many people have been debanked in the UK, thousands of people in fact, same thing.
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Many people have been debanked in the United States. This all directly goes to bankers because
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the fact that banks execute the punishment like that without having to ask for a legal sanction,
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why are we punishing this person? What have they done wrong? No, no, they just do it.
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It means that they've created already this matrix and we're caught. But guess what? Exit is really
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easy. If you know that your cage is your bank account, you can take your money out of the bank
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account, keep it at home in cash, or you can convert it to gold, silver or whatever seems
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to make sense. Then you can trade with your neighbors, people in your community and get
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what you need and provide them what they need and they'll pay you in cash or silver coins or
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whatever. That's the way out. What happens very spontaneously in human societies, always through
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history, is that people when they walk out, in Rome they were walking out, there were famous
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walkouts when the regime got too oppressive, people would just walk out. People form black and gray
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markets and the government will not be able to control it because if it's just a couple of guys
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breaking the law, they will try to make an example of them. Whereas there's a whole percentage of
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people trading on the black markets. They lost control and there's nothing you can do today.
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About half of the GDP of Argentina is transacted on black markets, not because the government
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likes it and allows it, but because there's nothing they can do about it. So that's the way out.
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I totally agree with you. When you talk about money, it goes back to the 15th of August 1971,
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when in effect Nixon, and that's when money started being printed and that's when the
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big money people were closest to the spigot. When the quantitative easing was opened, the people
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closest to the spigot, the people who were closest to the trough got the money, but it wasn't a matter
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of millions, it was trillions. They were in a position to blackmail and bribe.
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And buy up the media and buy up the universities. When you say the blood flowing,
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I really don't care who's going to be on the guillotine when I pull that handle.
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All right, let's move on. Now Jerry, I want to give you a tool and all of you, and Alex,
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this is very important, I'm going to share with you now before we get to Marv.
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Who are they? And here is one of the best diagrams, pictures that I have seen of who
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they are. And I'm going to put this into the chat and I really do want you all, don't tell me this
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is wrong, that's wrong. I want you to study this complicated map. Alex, can you see that now?
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Yes, yes, I can see it. Now I'm going to expand it. I just want to, this comes from
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a wall. I'll show you what the website is. You can study it. I'm going to put it into the chat,
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everybody. And I'll just make it a bit bigger so you can see what we're dealing with here.
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And you look at control where control, who's in charge, who's they, this is the world hierarchy
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pyramid. And the point is that the committee of 300 appears way down here.
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Freemasonry details here. I'll put the book into the chat, the New World Order, which we've
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previously had. BlackRock is here. International law is here. World financial control, world
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institutions are here. Corporations are here. Then you've got government here, everybody.
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And there are the peasants, that's us.
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Okay, general population and debtors down here. Now, all of the entities we have talked about,
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everybody. This picture is good enough. The website is just, I'll just point it out to you.
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Someone can put it in the chat. It's the DeepStateMappingProject.com.
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DeepStateMappingProject.com. So, in my view, from all of the meetings that we've had over the last
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five and a half years, and there's the Vatican in the middle here, there's the Jesuit Order,
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spiritual law, canon law, go high, there's Satan, Lucifer, and the New World Order book that I've
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put into the chat also talks about the Satanism, Luciferianism that goes on here. And I will please
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download this picture, study it, and let's see what we can learn from the collective minds on this call
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from what's accurate, what's correct there, what's not correct there. DeepStateMappingProject.com,
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I think, was the thing. So, Gerry, there's your answer. Thank you. And I find it very accurate
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considering all the information that's been shared in these meetings. And if you can find
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something that's not quite right, great. We say that's not in the right place. This should be here.
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These people control this. And we had a two-week, last week, Alex, we had a chat, someone put a
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chart on here that said the real people in charge, the truest wealthy people, are not publicly known.
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And there's a list of 13 families that were in the chat last week. I'll find it and share it a bit
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later. But it's very interesting names, most of whom, not one of them included the Rothschilds.
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We think the Rothschilds were running it, but these are the people behind those powers.
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Interesting. So there's they, everybody. Have a study, please, and see what we can learn,
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help each other learn about what Alex is saying. And that's why I'm in hemp, Gerry, because
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hemp enables a community literally to do what Alex said. Go gray market, black market,
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tell the rest of the world to get stuffed. Because with industrial hemp, you can produce food,
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clothing, shelter. And Alex, this is going to be crucial for Hungary and Croatia,
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right in the heart of Europe, because then local communities create local economies. You are not
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reliant on being part of a globalist banking system. There you are. That's why I'm in silver
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and gold and chickens and potatoes. They're my four principal interests. Chickens and potatoes.
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I love it. I love it. I love it. Thank you. That's right. Eggs. And Alex, one, apparently one egg a
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day. If you had one egg a day from a chicken, that's where they attack chickens all the time,
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as Gerry well knows, one egg a day and water, you could survive quite indefinitely,
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you know, quite some time. That's why they hate chickens. Marv is next.
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1:17:36
Hey, yeah, that was a great talk with you and the professor, Alex. Nice work. Thank you. Thank you
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very much. I think this this war is far simpler than, you know, the nuke thing is a ruse. They
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diesel in Oregon is pushing seven bucks a gallon. We're at six fifty nine. We expect it to be
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eight dollars in Oregon by summer. Anyway, you're talking about the personal restrictions that last
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week I got issued an official trespass notice from Willamette University for driving around the
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campus of my antique tractor with a Palestine flag flying off the back of it.
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Oh, this this upsets the order. They call it the orderly operation safety and the orderly operation
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of the campus. So they get rid of a Palestine flag. So anyway, I thought it was kind of an example of
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this personal restriction. But I want to ask you about this. You know, many of us have called the
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U.S. an oil company with the military for one hundred and fifty years. And now we have,
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you know, I was shocked at how quickly we abandoned our allies in the Gulf.
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We were gone in days. We picked up and left and left those. I mean, what the hell's going on there?
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Well, we acquired we think we acquired the oil of Venezuela. And now in two months,
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this oil company with the military has tripled their price and tripled their market.
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I mean, Europe is without energy. East Asia is looking at a catastrophe coming in a couple of
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months. Who cares about Africa or South America? But this just seems to be so simple that this oil
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company, you know, more than 50 percent of the cars now in China are electric vehicles. I mean,
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this electric revolution is coming and this this oil company has got to. Anyway, that's what I
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think this war is about. It's just the price of energy and with oil, we got to get all we can.
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Well, we can. And God, why we abandon our allies in the Gulf Coast so quickly just
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that that blew my mind. So anyway, I just wanted to ask you about maybe it is just as simple as
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and Russia, their resources, that huge country from eight or ten times.
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They are a challenge to this oil company with a military. And I think it's about resources.
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So anyway, I just want to ask you about that, Alex.
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Thank you, Mark. It is about the resources, but not in the way that we've been we've been
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led to believe because, you know, you can buy oil at the gas pump in any country in the world.
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You know, you can buy it in Switzerland and in Austria and in Denmark and
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1:21:07
in Japan, whatever. And none of them have military bases around the world and none of them go to war
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to control the oil. You know, you can just buy the oil from people who sell it because you might have
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something to trade. Right. And every country does it this way. So the whole story of controlling the
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oil doesn't make sense. Oil companies don't need to control the oil. Your ExxonMobiles and Chevrons
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could just as easily go to Tehran, make a deal with Iranian oil companies, load up the tankers,
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bring it to your market, put their margin on top and have a fantastic business on the back of it.
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They don't need to go into Iraq for that reason. The only people who need to control the oil are
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1:22:11
the bankers because their business is issuing loans to their clients. But in order for them to be able
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to issue the loans, they need collateral. So taking political control of a nation,
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overthrowing their regime, allows you to install your Boris Yeltsin, Vladimir Zelensky, King Saud,
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1:22:36
Al-Sabah, whatever. And then they give your corporations these contracts.
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And then your corporations finance this development by taking their loans from
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Citigroup and JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs and so forth. And then the second JP Morgan
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issues a billion dollar loan to Chevron, that second, that loan becomes an asset on
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1:23:08
JP Morgan's balance sheet. So the conquest of a nation or taking control of their regime
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almost instantly translates into enormous wealth appearing on your balance sheet.
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And then these loans perform because when Chevron digs up the oil, extracts the oil,
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loads them on the ships and sells them, they generate the cash with which they repay these
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loans to you. So it's like a constant flow of money to you. And you've done nothing. The money
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you loaned them, you conjured it out of thin air. You didn't fight the war. You didn't build the
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rigs. You didn't transport the oil. You didn't refine it. You didn't do anything. But you took
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the biggest chunk of that wealth for yourself. So you're the one with the biggest incentive for
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war. And it doesn't just have to be oil. If you control the guy in Tehran, you're going to get
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Iran to no longer buy medicines from China or India or produce your own. You're going to be
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bringing Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson and Johnson and all of these people. So that's the game.
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Alex, why are we destroying the Gulf Coast, our allies? Why are we destroying those countries?
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Those are not allies. Those are countries that bought protection from you. Those are protection
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record clients. They're not allies. They're nothing. They're peep squeaks. If they needed
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to go to war to save their lives, they'd be dead tomorrow. They've been living there with the
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protection of the United States who couldn't really protect them. And they knew that they
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couldn't protect them. But they could make, you know, when you have your guy in the government,
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1:25:00
you can make a deal with them. You bring them the Patriots and the THADs and the radars and you go
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1:25:05
and you know that it all looks good. But if push comes to shove, you're going to have to high tail
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it. And this was understood by the Pentagon officials way back in 1988. They wrote papers
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and documents about it. It was just a question of time when somebody was going to really challenge
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them. They knew that. All right. Thank you, Marv. Good thinking. Thanks. Yeah, good thinking.
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1:25:33
All right. John Day, good to see you.
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Am I live? Thank you, Charles. Thank you, Alex. Hi, John. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.
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Let me present a context in which all of this makes sense.
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And that that pyramid, our owners, if you would, as George Carlin called them, our owners are
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managing us as human herds. And so the hundreds they needed to maintain control of the human
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herds and to cull them by having them kill each other. So their essential function is ecosystem
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control. So we've all seen how if you take the wolves away from Yellowstone, the deer overgraze
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and the ecosystem goes bad. But we're the same. Humans are no longer apex predators. We've become
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grazing animals since we took up farming. And our apex predators are these elites in that pyramid.
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And it's true that they don't care for us. We're just an asset to manage. And at the point that we
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overgraze, as now, you know, we've been getting these visions of too many people since the 1960s.
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And it's easy to understand. And there was the oil crisis in the 1970s. And we all got that. But it
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appears that now industrial civilization, which does run on oil, has peaked out. There was a peak
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in November of 2018 of oil. And then after that was the repo crisis in 2019 and the going direct
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bailout during COVID lockdowns. And then there was another peak last October in oil plus
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natural gas liquids. But it really looks like, you know, it's a finite planet. And the whole
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limits to growth thing from 1972 were there. And so the function of our owners, these elites,
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is to cull us, maintain control of us, and maintain control of industrial economy. Because
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they need industrial economies. So it's really complicated, this world war,
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to accomplish all of the calls of people. They can, of course, eliminate all of their debts to us.
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And yet to maintain industrial
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economies. It's complicated. But right now, the
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Charles John needs to turn his video off.
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... function of...
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Oh, hang on. John, John, I had to mute you. Your video, you got enough, not enough bandwidth. So
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turn your video off and ask a question because I understand what you're saying. But get to the
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question, please. You'll need to unmute yourself. Although it looks like he's frozen there, Alex.
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Yeah, he does.
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Okay, unmute yourself, John.
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See if we can hear you.
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He could still lose contact.
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Yeah, wait a minute.
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And I know, Alex, you've had some things to say about assets in Ukraine. I'll stop it.
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1:29:57
Thank you. Alex, is it necessary to hold assets in order to maintain
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1:30:03
this financial paradigm and control all us heard?
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John, thank you. Unfortunately, your line was so bad that I didn't understand what the question was.
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Can you restate your question quickly?
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Yes. You've made it clear in essays of yours that I've read that the control of assets of which
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Russia is full is essential to the owner class who I'm presenting as being the apex predators
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of the rest of us humans.
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Okay, yes. But you see assets don't go anywhere by themselves. You need labor force
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for anything to happen. So you need control basically over resources and the population.
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And then you kind of manipulate them as like termite working colonies to move it and to create
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wealth that you enjoy. But these people have more money than they could spend in 100 generations.
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It's not about money for them. I think it's some kind of a perverse enjoyment of power over people
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for the sake of that power. And it's come to the point where it seems to me that they believe that
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they have replaced God and that they are in a position to manipulate biology to the point of
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turning themselves into a higher race over us. And this is what they're trying to do, it seems to me.
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And they were, I mean, in many places they were openly talking about this exact thing.
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And then when you look at everything that they're doing, it seems that they are doing this.
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Well, thank you. I believe that that's their function in the world and that they control our
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numbers when we overgraze their nice planet and that it's natural for them to see themselves as
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our owners. But we have to supersede that, make them redundant. The only way I see to do that
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is through following divine guidance myself. I absolutely agree with that, John. And I think that
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faith, religion is going to be probably one of the most important elements of our emancipation.
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I think we won't be able to emancipate ourselves without it.
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1:33:02
Like a really strict adherence to a faith. And I don't know which faith that is. I'm Catholic,
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but I'm kind of over it. Yeah, I would wholeheartedly agree with that. But, you know,
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in practical terms, there's already a lot we can do today. And, you know, it's going to the bank
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and slowly, quietly withdraw as much cash as possible. And the banks can't fall apart.
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1:33:35
Yeah, well said. Thank you, John. Excellent thinking. And I remember the words of Scott
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Shara, Grace's dad, who fought the big case about the murder of his Down's Syndrome daughter, Grace.
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Scott Shara has presented to us twice, Alex. He said, without God's help, we can't handle
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what we have to handle. So I just remind people, go back and look at the recording for those of
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1:34:06
you who might be interested. Heddy, welcome. Yes, thank you. And, Alex, I feel that I know you,
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because I listen to you at least two or three times a week. Oh, that's sweet. Thank you.
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I'm a great believer that when money talks, bullshit walks. And there's so many people out
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there talking about all sorts of stuff. And so you're one of the very few, what I consider
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reliable sources of information and also your knowledge of history, and also the Balkans and
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1:34:36
Russian politics, etc. But I'm particularly interested in your view of Bill Browder,
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because in fact, I read his book back in, well, I think it was 2016. And shortly after that,
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I was invited to hear him speak at the Special Forces Club in London. So, and I understand that
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you're a very outspoken critic of Bill. And I think with all the geopolitics that's going on
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1:35:07
at the moment in the world with Russia, of course, there's a lot of geopolitical pressure from the
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1:35:13
West to make out that Russia is the bad guy. And I'm not saying that they're the good guys. I mean,
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I think they're all pretty bad guys. But I'm interested to actually understand a little bit
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more about how you see the Magnitsky narrative shaping today's Western politics towards Russia,
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especially in the context of current geopolitical tensions.
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So Bill Browder is a liar and a fraud. And I read Red Notice twice. And then I wrote a book
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in which I debunked Red Notice completely with Bill Browder's own words, because his story is so
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hollow and so inconsistent that it's almost ridiculous. It's extraordinarily well written,
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because I think it was written, a ghost written by Lee Child. So it kind of reads like a spy
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1:36:19
thriller and it strings you along. You know, every time they're going to sell you a bill of goods,
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they give you like an emotional story. Okay, give you a perfect example. At one point in the story,
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Bill Browder tells you how all the oligarchs went to Vladimir Putin and say like,
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Volodya, what do we do to not end up in prison? Please don't imprison us. And then Vladimir Putin
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says like, hey, you give me 50%. And in that same story, Browder says, well, maybe it was 30,
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or maybe it was 60. I don't know what it was because I wasn't there. In other words,
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he's pulling the whole story out of his own back end. But what did he, you know, you probably
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didn't even notice that because just before he told you that story, he told you the story about
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how he was driving to a tennis and he was holding hands with his mistress. And then he saw like a
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dark object of the road and all these evil Russians were just like winding around it. And it was a man
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having a, how do you call it, epileptic attack. And he fell into the snow. And all these heartless
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Russians were just practically running, driving around him. And then he had his driver stop,
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and he got out of the car and he pulled the man over to the sidewalk and they gave him the
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first aid and they saved his life. So you think like, oh my God, this Bill Browder, he's such
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a wonderful guy. So brave. So, you know, and then the next thing he tells you a really,
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really shitty story about Vladimir Putin. That's how the whole story, the whole book is strung up
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1:38:06
like that. Anyway, when I published my book, six weeks later, it was banned. Okay. By the orders
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1:38:12
of Jonathan Weiner from the State Department in the United States who received the complaint from
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1:38:19
Bill Browder himself. And then when another publisher picked up my book, republished it with
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1:38:26
a different title, it was banned five weeks later again. So it was banned twice. And all I've done
882
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1:38:34
is I've used Bill Browder's own bullshit to debunk Bill Browder's story. The Magnitsky Act
883
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1:38:40
was passed in December of 2012 and is deemed the opening salvo in the new Cold War between
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1:38:45
the West and Russia. And Bill Browder and the people who are backing him, because it's not him,
885
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1:38:54
he's not, he's just a guy, they were leading us into the Third World War between the West and
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1:39:00
Russia. That was their intent. That was their objective from the start. So this is why I felt
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1:39:07
that I needed to unmask him because he was presenting himself as some kind of a hero,
888
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1:39:16
a fighter for human rights, anti-corruption crusader. He's a criminal. He's guilty of a lot
889
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1:39:22
of things that he's accusing other people of. He's probably the greediest man that ever walked the
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1:39:28
face of the earth. And I know people who, I met him twice, I know people who know him well,
891
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1:39:33
who have dined with him, who have flown on airplanes with him, traveled around the world with
892
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1:39:40
him. They say that he's absolutely pathologically obsessed with money. And to the point where he
893
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1:39:48
will sell his family for money. That's who Bill Browder is. So in this sort of era of huge
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1:39:48
1:39:54
disclosure on so many different fronts, I mean, if your interpretation is closer to the truth,
895
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1:40:00
what do you think the consequences are for today's policymakers? Because clearly they have been
896
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1:40:08
spinning a lie using Bill Browder as one of their characters to, you know, to sort of justify the
897
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1:40:15
geopolitical pressure on Russia. Well, yeah, but I think that Bill Browder's story unraveled to the
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1:40:23
point that he has completely destroyed his own credibility. And so he's still making the rounds,
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1:40:30
I think. He gets invited on Times Radio from time to time, makes some speeches here and there. But
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1:40:35
you know, he was going to become a household name. They were preparing to shoot a Hollywood
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1:40:41
movie based on the Red Notice. And it all fell apart because his story just, do you know, have
902
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1:40:49
you heard of the documentary film Red Notice behind the scenes? No, Magnitsky Act behind the scenes.
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1:40:56
No, I haven't seen that one. Yeah. So he commissioned this Russian documentary filmmaker
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1:41:02
to make a documentary film about this whole story. And this guy was, this would have been his third
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1:41:10
anti-Putin movie. So he was Andrey Nekrasov. He was a fixture in the West. He was in London. He
906
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1:41:16
was in Berlin. He was living in Berlin for a long time. He was being funded by Western European
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1:41:27
NGOs. And so Bill Browder had him shoot a documentary film about this. And the film was
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1:41:32
completed. But you see that in the film, like right in the middle of the film, as Nekrasov is
909
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1:41:39
shooting a scene that was key to the film, it doesn't work. The scene doesn't work. He was,
910
1:41:39
1:41:48
Magnitsky was supposed to be beat up by eight or nine Russian counter-terror police in full riot
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1:41:55
gear in his prison cell. So they were going to film that scene. And then Nekrasov went to that
912
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1:42:05
prison and to that cell. And then he was, there's no way that a man and another eight police can
913
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1:42:10
fit into this cell. They wouldn't be able to move. This couldn't have happened.
914
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1:42:17
So he thinks about it. He goes back to London. He sits at a meeting with Browder and he tells him,
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1:42:23
you have to explain to me how this happened because I'm not able to make the ends meet of
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1:42:32
this story. And so Browder gives him another layer of bullshit and then another. And every time he
917
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1:42:40
asked another question, Browder's explanations derail. And then at one point Browder gets up,
918
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1:42:47
accuses his documentary filmmaker of spouting Vladimir Putin's propaganda points and walks out.
919
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1:42:57
Nekrasov completed the film, but he continued to pursue his own findings, his own research.
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1:43:05
And so the film ends up being completely against Bill Browder. And so Bill Browder has spent his
921
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1:43:11
time ever since making sure that nobody can show that film. It was going to be shown in the Council
922
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1:43:18
of Europe, I think, or one of those European institutions. And then they banned it at the last
923
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1:43:24
moment. And then everywhere where it was going to be shown, Browder's lawyers would go and make sure
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1:43:32
that it's not shown. And then once, you know, there was a news museum in Washington, D.C., who
925
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1:43:41
refused to cancel the screening of the film. So it was seen by a whole bunch of people in the United
926
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1:43:53
States. The Magnitsky Act is a complete abomination of a legal code because it provides for
927
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1:44:01
any bureaucrat from the, for not any bureaucrat, but some bureaucrats from the U.S. Treasury
928
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1:44:07
Department to put people on the sanctions list with absolutely no due process, no recourse, no
929
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1:44:17
nothing. So the whole thing is, the whole thing was a very, very ugly affair. And it was a step in
930
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1:44:23
the direction of confrontation between the West and Russia. And who do you think is actually behind
931
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1:44:29
it? Because as you say, Bill Browder, you know, he's clearly not sort of influential to do that.
932
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1:44:35
Would it be sort of like... Bill Browder was initially backed by Edmund Safra. His affair in
933
1:44:35
1:44:43
Moscow was backed by Edmund Safra. But before Edmund Safra, he used to work for Robert Maxwell,
934
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1:44:50
you know, the former employer of, no, he wasn't the employer of Jeffrey Epstein, but you know,
935
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1:44:59
the story anyway. Jelaine's dead, yes. Jelaine's dead, yeah. So, and then Edmund Safra was killed
936
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1:45:07
in 1999 here in Monaco. And his whole business was taken over by HSBC, which is dominated by the
937
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1:45:14
Rothschilds, Jacob Rothschilds. Now it's Matt Rothschild. So this is who's keeping him alive.
938
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1:45:21
This is who's his new partner in crime. And this is who is behind everything he's doing. He's not,
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1:45:24
he doesn't go to the toilet without them telling them to do so.
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1:45:28
Interesting. Thank you. Thank you for your take on that.
941
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1:45:34
Thank you, Hadi. Well done, Hedy. Being a secret admirer of Alex and catching up with him three
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1:45:40
times a week, there you are, Alex. Before we go to Lars, Stephen and everybody, I thought
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1:45:44
you would like to know that I spoke to Warner Mendenhall, who rang me
944
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1:45:53
last week. And Warner is an Ohio lawyer who's had a, we all know, a major cancer battle.
945
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1:46:00
And Stephen, everybody sends his regards. And Stephen, he's happy to come and he can do a
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1:46:05
presentation for an hour on his journey. So Stephen, if you could get in touch with him,
947
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1:46:10
he's happy to come, but he can't last more than an hour during his recovery. And, you know,
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1:46:13
he might not make it, but he's in pretty good shape at the moment.
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1:46:20
Charles, I heard you say that a couple of meetings ago, and I've already made a note of it. So,
950
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1:46:28
Well done. Good. Anyway, so, by the way, I think it's Hadi, which is, isn't it Hadi?
951
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1:46:31
It's actually pronounced H-E-D-I.
952
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1:46:33
Oh, is it right?
953
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1:46:37
H-E-D-I. It's named after my grandmother, who was a Hidvig.
954
1:46:37
1:46:39
Oh, so how is it spelled?
955
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1:46:41
H-E-D-I.
956
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1:46:43
Oh, sorry. I thought there was an I in it. Yes. Okay.
957
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1:46:43
Don't worry.
958
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1:46:45
Before the D. Yeah.
959
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1:46:48
There's no I. Correct. Thanks, Hadi.
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1:46:49
Hadi, Lars.
961
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1:46:56
Yes. Thank you, Alex, for everything you do. I think everything is brilliant.
962
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1:46:59
Thank you, Lars. Thank you. That's very kind.
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1:47:03
Now, I think I may have asked you this before, but I'll do it again.
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1:47:14
Are you familiar with the book published by two Ukrainian brothers called Vitaly and Dmitry
965
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1:47:17
No, I'm not.
966
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1:47:29
Okay. It's called My Done, The Secret Files. And it's Professor Ivan Kachanovsky in Canada
967
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1:47:37
who has brought the attention to this book, because they're two of the key leaders in
968
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1:47:47
Svoboda, the far-right party in Ukraine, Oleg Tjarnybok and Ruslan Koshelinsky. They were both
969
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1:47:54
in discussions in a meeting with what I think is Victoria Nuland. They call it a Western
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1:48:03
government representative. And I put some three slides on this in the chat. You can look at it.
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1:48:12
But the Western representative, Victoria Nuland, demanded that 100 people had to be killed
972
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1:48:24
on My Done. And so, Oleg, for example, he said when I asked why we already have four victims,
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1:48:32
is that not enough for Western leaders to react? This is not enough. We will be able to react when
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1:48:46
there are 100 victims. And then Ruslan asked similar questions. And again, they said,
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1:48:54
we have to wait until 100 people are dead. Now, if people in the West knew that they were instructed
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1:49:05
to murder 100 people in the My Done, and they actually didn't manage to do that. They managed to
977
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1:49:15
murder 74. And then they murdered 17 policemen. And to get to 100, they added people who committed
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1:49:23
suicide and were ill. And these people are now called the heavenly hundreds. And visitors,
979
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1:49:29
tourists are being walked through this park with pictures of the heavenly hundreds.
980
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1:49:37
These are Victoria Nuland's murder orders. And somebody with a good,
981
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1:49:43
people like you who have a good audience, you need to bring this up. And I can send you the book
982
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1:49:50
if you want me. Do you read Russian? Unfortunately, I do not. But I have read
983
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1:49:57
Kaczanowski's book. Okay, so it was mentioned in Kaczanowski. Yes, yes. I'm very familiar with this,
984
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1:50:04
but my guess would not be that that was Nuland. My guess would be that this was either John Brennan
985
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1:50:13
or it may have been Carl Bildt, actually, because Carl Bildt was very, very closely involved with
986
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1:50:24
this. And he is, he appears like almost a respectable politician and a diplomat,
987
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1:50:35
but he's a very pro-fascistic intelligence asset. And he has been
988
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1:50:48
at various times advocating for massacres in a very, how do you call it,
989
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1:50:59
kind of shockingly crude tones, you know, undiplomatic. So I suspect, you know,
990
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1:51:07
John Brennan was there a lot. And John Brennan actually was one of the organizers of the anti-terror
991
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1:51:19
operation that took off in April. And then Carl Bildt was in and out of Kiev a lot in that period.
992
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1:51:27
Lars, did you know about this? I hear what you're saying. I still believe it was Victoria Nuland,
993
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1:51:34
because everybody listened to her. She was the boss in the Ukraine project. I happen to know
994
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1:51:43
Carl Bildt very, very well. He was sitting in my office for four and a half years. We were sharing
995
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1:51:50
secretary. Really? I know him extremely well. So do you think it could have been him?
996
1:51:51
1:51:59
I disagree with him enormously. I have since, this was in the early 2000s,
997
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1:52:10
for four and a half years until 2004, I have asked him questions about some of the important
998
1:52:10
1:52:19
documents that are driving the wars in Syria, in the whole Middle East, etc. He has no idea about
999
1:52:19
1:52:26
these documents. I asked him a lot of things, and he has no clue. He did write the, he did sign
1000
1:52:27
1:52:34
the association agreement, Ukraine, European, but it was the Poles that wrote it.
1001
1:52:38
1:52:46
I have so much negative to say about his views. I liked him very much when we worked together,
1002
1:52:46
1:52:52
but I doubt very much that he would be the person who was driving this thing.
1003
1:52:54
1:53:01
Okay, that was my suspicion, because he was in and out a lot, and he made some very crude statements.
1004
1:53:02
1:53:10
I also knew, I never met him personally, but he had a role in the events that took place in
1005
1:53:11
1:53:22
Yugoslavia in the early 1990s. We all took him initially for a Swedish diplomat who's coming to
1006
1:53:22
1:53:29
help us sort out the things, and then it turned out that he played a very, very dark role.
1007
1:53:31
1:53:38
So for those people watching this, he absolutely hates Russia and Russians.
1008
1:53:39
1:53:45
Yes, yes, I know that. I know that. Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, my suspicion is,
1009
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1:53:50
because it doesn't surprise me what you say, that he had no idea about these documents,
1010
1:53:50
1:53:56
because I think he had different assignments. He didn't have to know that.
1011
1:53:57
1:54:03
That was his job, ostensibly. His real job was something else, and I think that he was an
1012
1:54:03
1:54:11
intelligence asset. Oh, he has definitely been passing information to the CIA since teenage
1013
1:54:12
1:54:18
years. Yeah, yeah. So CIA assets. Yeah, but he's not as important as a lot of people think.
1014
1:54:18
1:54:24
Well, he is important because he's a former prime minister of Sweden, so that makes him important,
1015
1:54:25
1:54:30
you know, in the context, similar context to Olof Palme. I don't know what the truth about
1016
1:54:30
1:54:38
that was, but Carl Bildt is a very, how shall I say, personable guy, you know, so a lot of
1017
1:54:38
1:54:42
some people would be attracted to him. So he's able to take people
1018
1:54:42
1:54:45
astray. And the question is, is he taking people astray?
1019
1:54:47
1:54:51
Well, Jeffrey Epstein was a very personable guy. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
1020
1:54:53
1:55:00
Yeah, but Carl is a different cattle of fish. He's been lying a lot about Estonia, and that
1021
1:55:00
1:55:08
is absolutely terrible. The ship, Estonia? Yeah, yeah. Or the country? No, the sinking.
1022
1:55:08
1:55:13
The sinking of the ship, yeah. Christopher Bullin, who's a friend of mine, has written
1023
1:55:15
1:55:22
very much about it, including Carl's role, which is actually terrible. So,
1024
1:55:22
1:55:31
well, I can go on about this for hours, but I don't think he was the Western representative in that case.
1025
1:55:31
1:55:36
That they were talking about, okay. But Lars, is it possible that he took you astray as well?
1026
1:55:36
1:55:41
Even though your guard was down because you knew him so well, and you were sharing an office with
1027
1:55:41
1:55:47
him, your office, you graciously offered him office space when he ceased to be prime minister
1028
1:55:48
1:55:55
of Sweden. So is it possible that he, you know, some people are weird and they can take people
1029
1:55:55
1:56:01
astray. And so he maybe claimed that he didn't know about documents which he did know about.
1030
1:56:02
1:56:09
No, no, no, no, no. I know him so well. I spent so much time with him.
1031
1:56:09
1:56:12
I understand it. All right, thank you.
1032
1:56:12
1:56:13
Thank you, Lars.
1033
1:56:13
1:56:19
But I'm very, very critical. And I think he's basically a traitor to Sweden.
1034
1:56:19
1:56:21
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1035
1:56:21
1:56:23
Well, thank you, Lars. And thank you for the...
1036
1:56:23
1:56:25
So, Alex, why was he going to Ukraine all the time?
1037
1:56:27
1:56:34
Probably was on assignment. You know, as soon as the government, the new government, was formed
1038
1:56:34
1:56:41
after the coup, he was one of the people who was providing them advice about how to set up the
1039
1:56:41
1:56:49
government, how to run things and how to defend the junta from, you know, getting overthrown in turn.
1040
1:56:50
1:56:54
But it's actually worse than that because if you have read, and most people haven't,
1041
1:56:55
1:57:05
but if you have read the Ukraine-EU association agreement that the Polish foreign minister
1042
1:57:05
1:57:08
actually wrote, or his team wrote it...
1043
1:57:08
1:57:11
Are you talking about Radek Sikorski?
1044
1:57:11
1:57:12
Radek, yeah.
1046
1:57:13
1:57:19
And so he wrote it and Karl signed it because Karl would never write something like that.
1047
1:57:19
1:57:27
And, but then he was pushing it. And if you read it, Ukraine could never sign it because they
1048
1:57:27
1:57:34
basically demanded that you should not have any trade with Russia anymore, just with the EU.
1049
1:57:34
1:57:42
But the EU doesn't buy anything from Ukraine. All the sales went to Russia, Egypt, and some other
1050
1:57:42
1:57:47
Turkey, maybe something like that. So the whole economy would collapse.
1051
1:57:47
1:57:55
It would have been... That association agreement would have turned Ukraine into a colony of Europe.
1053
1:57:55
1:58:01
And Radek Sikorski never wrote that. He wouldn't be capable. It was the British who wrote that
1054
1:58:01
1:58:06
association agreement because he was through and through a British man and he is to this day.
1055
1:58:07
1:58:16
And his wife, yeah. But Karl pushed that political process and that is terrible.
1056
1:58:18
1:58:19
Yeah. Yeah.
1057
1:58:20
1:58:23
All right. Thank you, Lars. Wonderful. And thank you for the...
1058
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1:58:26
what the information you've also put into the chat. Most helpful.
1059
1:58:27
1:58:29
All right, everybody keep studying, keep learning.
1060
1:58:31
1:58:38
Now we have Chuck and then Tom and then Stephen and we'll be finishing the formalities in 25...
1061
1:58:38
1:58:39
Are you okay for another 20 minutes, Alex?
1062
1:58:40
1:58:41
Yes. Yes.
1063
1:58:41
1:58:43
Excellent. Thank you, Lars. Chuck.
1064
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1:58:49
You muted, Chuck.
1065
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1:59:01
I unmuted. So I put at eight minutes past the top of the start on chat a link for Charles Kovas
1066
1:59:01
1:59:07
at a Tap Talk coming up. So Charles, I'm really looking forward to you being our special guest
1067
1:59:07
1:59:13
and us coming up on Tuesday. Go to the eight minute mark in the chat. You can find information.
1068
1:59:13
1:59:20
But Alex, you're describing what I accept as a kind of World War III of, call it the Anglo-Saxon
1069
1:59:20
1:59:32
Empire against those that are not in that empire, Bricks Company countries, for example. So, and I
1070
1:59:32
1:59:38
watched a guy, I think it's Richard Medhurst. He's a journalist and he did a video titled
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1:59:39
1:59:48
Pirate State and he makes an argument for basically empire building and it's about
1072
1:59:48
2:00:00
controlling for Petrodollar and more, obviously. But I follow David Hughes and he advanced the
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2:00:00
2:00:12
term Omni-War, which is a code for a war, essentially class war, by the plutocrats
1074
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2:00:17
or by those in that pyramid. And these are people we don't know about and they're hidden,
1075
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2:00:26
but they are waging war on the populace. And I think I accept that this war in Iran is going
1076
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2:00:32
to induce a global depression. And I posted a Substack link. I highlighted a New York Times
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2:00:42
article, which makes this case. So I also invite people in the freedom movement, people on this
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2:00:51
call, people that are grappling with this power structure. And I know a number of us, we get,
1079
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2:01:00
I mean, I have a lot of hope for humanity through entrepreneurship, the free markets, as it were,
1080
2:01:01
2:01:12
but that capitalism as a kind of technology of an economic class structure has unfortunately
1081
2:01:12
2:01:19
been involved in a lot of nefarious, wicked evil activities. And I accept that many things we
1082
2:01:19
2:01:26
complain about COVID was essentially a state crime against democracy. And Lance dehaven-Smith
1083
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2:01:32
is a scholar who coined this term in 2006. So I'm an advocate for people in the freedom movement to
1084
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2:01:41
explicitly call out the plutocratic class and say, they've got to go. Just like the slave institution
1085
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2:01:49
ended in Russia in 1865, like it ended in the USA after the civil war, but ending slavery as
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2:01:56
an institution didn't solve the problem of the plutocracy ruling over. So I'm a small D Democrat,
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and I know for some people the word democracy actually infers negative connotation, which I,
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you know, and I'm even an advocate for an egalitarian society. And I met other people
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for whom the word egalitarian has negative connotation. One of the things that we're all
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in the midst of is a fog of war, the pollution of language. And one of our struggles is to find
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language that we can agree on that would galvanize everyone and closing the people in the Five Eyes
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nations who are all kind of subject to the NATO deployment of the COVID. To Jerry's point, if
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that's going to be the idea that could galvanize into liberation from these plutocrats, so be it.
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But I think the warmongering is the most obvious and the overhand play of genocide in Gaza,
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absolutely cruel and wicked evil. And we need to call this stuff out and make the demand for the
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better society. And I look forward to talking about how hemp can be instrumental in that
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possibility, Charles. So hey, peace out, everyone. Have a great week. Great to be on this, Alex.
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Thank you. Thank you, Chuck.
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Thank you, Chuck. Lovely to hear those perspectives. All right, Tom, you're on.
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Tom's muted.
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We can't hear you, Tom.
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Yeah, that's my double mute. I'm sorry, Alex. I hear you on NEMA, a fair amount. I'm not able
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to hear everyone, but I definitely appreciate your work. So yeah, I wanted to hit on a couple
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things. One is just the opening up of the Iran conflict and the Starlink technology, the
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demonstrations, the Time magazine, the person that leaked from the Ministry of Health to Time
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magazine, the figures for the number of people killed. And then another major topic, which is
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very dependent on reopening up the Straits of Hormuz. It's the India Middle East economic
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corridor that Kushner under Trump largely engineered along with USA, European Economic
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Union and Saudi Arabia. So those are the two things. And then maybe the where Israel's going
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to, how Israel's going to fear and the whole Greater Israel project, you know, the expansion
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into Syria and so forth, how that's working out. So on the demonstrators, what I understand
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is the figures range from, I've heard some people say as high as 145,000, but the more popular
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figure is around 30,000 demonstrators killed. And then some of the humanitarian organizations say
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2:05:20
only 6,000. And it also begs the question, you know, what really did happen there? And then
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to give you the background on this India Middle East economic corridor, Patrick Wood on his website
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2:05:35
covers it. It was started, the project was started in 2023. I knew nothing about this.
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They want to set up a fiber optic corridor going basically from
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2:05:55
India, through Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, up into Haifa, Israel, and then all the way over
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2:06:02
to Greece. So it's a trading corridor and along there, there'd be, I guess, a whole bunch of
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2:06:08
data centers. And obviously you'd need to get, I guess you'd need to get those bases back
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2:06:16
functional on Qatar and UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. But it doesn't look like,
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2:06:23
you know, so I've got a problem. I mean, is this going to happen or not? So those are
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those three things. Thank you. Okay, so I'll start with Israel. I think Israel is finished.
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2:06:34
It's not going to disappear tomorrow, but I think it's going to disappear.
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2:06:43
I don't see how they can reverse that. And it was kind of expected, you know, Henry Kissinger was
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2:06:51
saying already in 2012 that Israel will cease to exist in the next 10 years, where it's been more
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2:06:59
than 10 years, but you know, he did understand certain things that are now actually coming to
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2:07:07
pass. With regards to victims in Iran, that was an obvious attempt to overthrow the government.
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2:07:13
And Trump himself said that, you know, as they were negotiating, he was arming,
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2:07:21
he was sending the weapons to the demonstrators through the Kurds. So that was an organized
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2:07:30
insurrection. According to the Iranians, about 3200 people were killed. And to my mind, that's
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2:07:40
the only credible figure because all these other figures like 40,000, 150,000,
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2:07:49
that is just highly, highly unlikely. How on earth would they have killed 30 or 40,000 people
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2:08:00
in what, the space of two days, three days? You know, as we just discussed about the Maidan,
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2:08:09
they tried to get 100 people killed. And they were shooting there for hours into the crowds,
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2:08:15
into the naked crowds from more than 20 sniper positions, and they couldn't kill 100 people.
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2:08:22
It's not that easy, you know. 42,000 people got arrested. That's an official
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2:08:29
data point from the Iranian government. And I think that that number just got turned into
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2:08:41
killed. They just, I think it's a PsyOP, it's a propaganda thing. And then with regards to
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the data centers and the military bases, I don't think that that's happening.
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I don't think that's coming back. The Iranians will not, you know, Iranians have been harassed
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2:09:04
by Western colonial powers for over 120 years now. They've been, you know, the country has been
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2:09:14
surrounded by bases. They have been attacked, sabotaged. They have been under maximum pressure
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2:09:22
sanctions, which has suffocated their economic growth. And they are constantly infiltrated by
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2:09:31
Western intelligence assets from Mossad, CIA, MI6, and so forth. You know, when you're under
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2:09:37
siege like that, obviously your society cannot develop in a normal way. You're going to end up
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2:09:43
having a repressive government because they are under attack all the time. They can't just say,
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2:09:48
like, oh, free society, let everybody say what they want, let everybody do what they want.
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2:09:57
So all of these things have been distorted in Iran because they've been under siege for so long.
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2:10:05
And part of that siege have been the military bases. And now there's this,
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well, very widely
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2:10:19
spread understanding, whether it's correct or not, I don't know, that it was the American radars
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2:10:26
that have kept their country in conditions of drought for decades.
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2:10:32
Because as soon as they destroyed those radars, suddenly there's rain everywhere.
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2:10:40
And people on the ground in Tehran say that the sky has changed completely,
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2:10:52
that it used to be stale, stagnant, murky, hazy. And now they have clear blue skies and
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2:10:57
clean air. People are reporting a very notable change. So it's not going to be difficult for
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them to convince themselves that these military bases were messing with their weather.
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2:11:12
And so I think that the Iranians will not allow for the military bases to be repaired and restaffed
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2:11:19
and brought back to normal operation as before. Why should they? I mean, you know, if you look at
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2:11:25
the United States was surrounded by Iranian military bases, that wouldn't be so good.
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2:11:30
People wouldn't like it. They wouldn't appreciate it. They would object. So why should American
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2:11:32
military bases be surrounding Iran?
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2:11:44
So there's a plan for Gaza. There's this board of peace only costs a billion dollars to get on the
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2:11:51
board. I think they've raised 12 billion. The plan is to tokenize. This is what I'm getting from
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2:12:00
Patrick Wood's work. They're going to tokenize all the assets in Gaza and no one will have any
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2:12:09
private property. So you don't think that's going to happen? And what do you think is going to happen
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2:12:10
in Syria long term?
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2:12:16
I very much doubt that that's going to happen because they're making these plans without asking
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2:12:25
Palestinians anything. And Palestinians are still the population of that area. Whatever Trump and
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2:12:31
Kushner and Witkov might think about it. And then the whole thing doesn't make any sense at all.
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It's just dumb, honestly.
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The whole thing doesn't make any sense at all. It's just dumb, honestly.
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2:12:45
Why would you do that if somebody has a valid legal claim on that land?
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2:12:57
I think it's crazy too, but just one wrinkle on it. Supposedly there's already negotiations to
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2:13:06
bring in Arab forces and the Palestinians would not leave and IDF would leave and Israel would
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2:13:15
continue to exist. But they benefit, presumably, I don't know. Everything is going to be rebuilt,
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all these high rises and so forth. But yeah, thanks so much. That should do it for me.
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Thank you, Tom.
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Do we have Charles?
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I don't know where he's gone. So anyway, are you there, Charles?
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Yep, he's fallen asleep.
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Is it okay if I ask?
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Oh, sorry, Jim. Go ahead, Jim.
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You first.
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2:14:03
Is it possible? I heard some discussions about Victoria Newland earlier. And I'm wondering if
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2:14:13
Hagen wrote about a SKINAC document that said genetically specific virus or pathogen could be
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2:14:20
a politically useful tool. And that's her husband's family. Could you address that?
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2:14:30
And could you address the possibility of using energy as something that Jeffrey Edskeen was
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2:14:37
documenting that he is suppressing, but may take us out of this energy crisis with oil?
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These aren't topics that you kind of talked about, but there seem to be critical pieces
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2:14:45
of this overall fight.
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Well, okay. Thank you, Jim. Look, regarding the energy, I don't really know. I wouldn't be able
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to give you an answer regarding this other question. The United States Defense Department
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and the CIA set up 48 different biolabs in Ukraine, and they had many more in
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2:15:14
places like Georgia and other countries in the region. And they were doing all kinds of research.
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2:15:22
We don't necessarily know all the details, but they were collecting samples of the Russian
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population and Ukrainian population. And they were doing this presumably with the view of developing
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they were doing this presumably with the view of developing pathogens that might target
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one population while leaving others unharmed. So I don't know, to me that sounds absolutely crazy.
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I mean, not that somebody would have the idea of doing that, but that they would actually be able
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to pull it off. That just strikes me as fantasy. But they did develop all kinds of insect. Oh,
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by the way, I have to share this with the group because I learned it from practically from first
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2:16:19
hand. But there seems to be very abundant exports of insects from Israel. The company is called BioB
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2:16:26
and they have BioB Israel, BioB United States, BioB Germany, BioB Canada, and so forth.
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And it seems to me that these exports have started very, very recently in large amounts.
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And this kind of overlaps this appearance, a sudden appearance of ticks on people's farms
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2:16:51
in boxes, like boxes of ticks are appearing. So anyway, I thought I'd mention then the reason
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why I mentioned what reminded me is your question, because they've done a lot of research
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in these bio labs in Georgia and Ukraine on insects, insects that would carry a pathogen.
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2:17:11
And then maybe that insect would fly off to Russia and infect the population or livestock there.
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Right. And one of the effects of this was that they had an escape or release of a mosquito species
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that they were working on. And that I felt in person because what happened is that this mosquito
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2:17:40
spread westward along the Mediterranean coast everywhere. And I remember around 2014,
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2:17:48
up until the time where I come from, we never had any mosquitoes. And then they started appearing
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2:17:54
suddenly in very large numbers. And then much, much later, I read from investigative work by
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2:18:05
Deliana Gaetangieva, that's a Bulgarian journalist. She got all these documentations from some of these
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2:18:12
bio labs. And it turns out that that particular species of mosquito escaped from a US
1219
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2:18:20
DOD bio lab in Georgia. And now we have it. It's a gift that keeps on giving. They're extremely annoying.
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2:18:30
Wow, that's great information. I just tried to look up BioB and could not find it. It's B-I-O-B?
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2:18:34
Is that the company? Yeah, I don't have any documents, but I will.
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If you could, I'd appreciate it. Well, okay. I've asked people who are, because my contact is in a
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2:18:56
shipping business. And I asked them to get me the documents, but I asked them not to scan anything,
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2:19:02
not to send me anything by email. I asked them to just make photocopies and to give them to me when
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2:19:07
I see them in person. I don't want to be sending this around.
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2:19:14
Yes, I understand. This could also be a preparation of something that we'll learn about
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in the future. Yes. And by the way, when I was talking to some people about taking
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2:19:27
hydroxychloroquine early, some high level people in the United States, they said we were told to
1229
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2:19:33
take chloroquine, which has a longer shelf life of 55 days, and to build bat houses. And it turns out
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2:19:42
that bats eat mosquitoes at a very high rate. So building bat houses and keeping bats may protect
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2:19:50
your family from the mosquitoes. Just keep that in mind. Also, there is a researcher in
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2:19:58
North Carolina in the research triangle named Dr. Dennis Brown, B-R-O-W-N, who researches this
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2:20:05
syndibus, S-I-N-D-B-I-S virus, and puts it in mosquitoes and can transfer
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2:20:14
pathogens that can kill vertebrates like humans, but not affect the mosquito. And that syndibus
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virus may be neutralized by certain antiparasitic medications like nitrozoxanide. So just keep in
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mind that the antiparasitic may be needed for those who are genetically targeted.
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Okay. But not needed by those who are not genetically targeted.
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And the genetic targeting, I can go give you some information about that this year.
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Do you think it works?
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2:20:50
Absolutely. The ACE2 receptor that the COVID uses is genetically targeted. The urine cleavage site
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2:20:56
is genetically targeted, and certain people don't have high levels of urine in their bodies. The
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2:21:07
TMPRSS2 cleavage site is genetically targeted. The CCR5, or the GP120, that is HIV-like,
1243
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2:21:15
inside the COVID is genetically targeted and does not harm people with the CCR5 variant.
1244
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2:21:21
So yes, COVID has four mechanisms at least of genetically targeting.
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2:21:26
And as R.F. Clayton said, it does not affect certain people.
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2:21:40
Here would be my question. If they wanted to say target Iranians, Persians, or if they wanted to
1247
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2:21:44
target Russians, why haven't they done it? Why didn't we see a...
1248
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2:21:52
I believe they have, and here's what we will see. If you check your CD3, CD4, and CD8 counts,
1249
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2:21:59
they will be low in the targeted people. And physicians who have written for that test
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2:22:07
have been refused. They're not allowed to check that test on their patients. CD3, CD4, and CD8
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2:22:15
e-lymphocyte counts. So there have been pre-crimes to have increased infestation with parasites,
1252
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2:22:26
pre-crimes to have increased infections, but it's a very slow pre-cell damage. And the cancer,
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2:22:35
the increased risk in cancer is also genetically specific. So this is very sophisticated damage to
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2:22:42
what I would call the goyum, as outlined by Jeffrey Edgstein. And if you want to find out
1255
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2:22:49
if you're goyum, you check your CD3, CD4, and CD8 counts, and they might be low. Or low normal,
1256
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2:22:55
if predisposed to people with a parasite infestation. And COVID could be considered
1257
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to be a parasite. Intracelular replicating in Paris. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Jim.
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2:23:17
Lars Johansson again. Go ahead, Lars. Yes, I just remembered that I saw a lot of flows of people from
1259
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2:23:25
Israel to Cyprus. We have the fires in Argentina, where they've made a decision that 300,000
1260
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2:23:33
Israelis should move to Argentina. We have special cities in Ukraine where Israelis are setting up.
1261
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2:23:39
We have the same thing in Thailand, and so forth. So have you noticed this? Have you
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2:23:48
on conclusions? What do you think about all that? It strikes me like a little bit crazy. I don't
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2:23:58
understand where they're going with that. I think they are basically inculcating countries
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2:24:02
with the Zionists. That's what it seems. Yes, yes, yes. No, no, that's clear. But
1265
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2:24:11
where does it go? What if people... I mean, I don't know. They have suffered so much through
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2:24:18
history kind of exactly for these reasons. Why don't they look at the way Jews live in Iran,
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2:24:23
where they're part of the society, they're integrated, they're not oppressed,
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2:24:29
and they're not trying to take over the country, at least as far as I know. And so wouldn't they
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2:24:34
want their families to live in peace and not be afraid of people surrounding them and not be
1270
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2:24:44
crazy freaking fanatics constantly at war? I don't understand it. I have to say to me, it's like
1271
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2:25:00
a tribe that's gone insane. I don't know how... Oh, by the way, Lars, while I have you on the line,
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2:25:05
I wanted to ask, so this book, Maidan, the Secret Files, that's only available in Russian?
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2:25:11
In Ukrainian. Oh, in Ukrainian. That's too bad. The authors are...
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2:25:19
Vitaly and... The two brothers, they are called, let me see,
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2:25:31
Vitaly and Dmitry Kapranov. They are twins and they're quite well known having TV programs and
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2:25:37
things in Ukraine. One of them recently died in 2023, I think. But the other brother is still
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2:25:46
there, Kapranov. It is called Brati Kapranov. They're called the Kapranov brothers.
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2:25:54
The Kapranov brothers and it's Maidan, Taimi Faliye, which is Secret Files.
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2:26:05
Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Very good. So thank you, Lars. And do you think
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2:26:11
Carl Bildt would come to talk to us Lars? And then we could install Alex in the background, you know, and...
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2:26:24
I think that would probably be one of the last things he did. He was organizing the European
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2:26:33
supply of COVID-19 vaccines. He got a position, the WHO gave him a position to be
1283
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2:26:42
in some bullshit organization, organizing vaccines. So I doubt that he would come to medical
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2:26:50
doctors for COVID ethics. What about if we just changed it to medical doctors for bad COVID ethics?
1285
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2:26:57
Temporarily. We could just drop the COVID ethics maybe. But anyway, Alex, thank you.
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2:27:05
Yes, unfortunately not, I think. I have thought we need to change the name because it sounds a
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2:27:10
little bit like, you know, we're virtue signaling and of course virtue signaling was part of the
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2:27:18
problem in 2020 and 2021. Everybody trying to be, you know, you know, you know, you know,
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2:27:27
2021. Everybody trying to be good people by wearing a mask. Anyway, Alex, it's great to
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hear from you. And I thought you described it very well today, much better than others when they
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2:27:39
tried to kind of explain what's going on with Russia, the Soviet Union, you know, what happened
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2:27:49
in 89 and 91. So you explained it very, I may have understood this partly previously, but I think I
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I've got it now and essentially doesn't make any sense. But if people understood that, you know,
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the people who are moving things at the moment, then maybe that would be very useful, you know,
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and you have the ability, as we've discussed previously, you're very good at telling stories
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in such a way that people not only read your words, but they actually remember them and
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a bit like the Greek myths, you know. So if you could write like Homer, you know,
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the Odyssey and the Iliad, that would be great about Russian history, you know, and so how do
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we get to this crazy place we are now with Europe? Well, you know, Stephen, I wrote a book about the
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about the war in Ukraine. And then I never published it, because I basically shit myself
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after they sanctioned Colonel Jacques Beaux, because no one would publish it. Sorry. No, no,
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no, I didn't even try to publish it because I don't want to get sanctioned. I see what I think
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I will do in the end, I'm going to publish the whole thing piece by piece on my sub stack.
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And then maybe, you know, once the European Commission disintegrates, I'll publish the book,
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but I can't I can't be sanctioned. You know, I have two I have two young boys that I have to raise,
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you know, if you think they would sanction you. Well, you know, Colonel Jacques Beaux and I
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appeared on many of the same podcasts. And I get similar traction like him.
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So I wouldn't be surprised if I found myself on the list. And this book would definitely
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put me closer to that list. Because, you know, so you know, the two books which were most of the
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same book, actually was banned twice. And it seems that Bill Browder was behind censoring you there.
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But also he was responsible for censoring a film, I think somebody mentioned tonight,
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which he didn't want seen. So where does he get his protection from Bill Browder? What? So why did
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the State Department essentially protect him or try to? He's an operator. He's an operator for
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exactly the the top level people who are in charge of the world. You know, he well,
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what you can find out is that his biggest investor is HSBC. So he works in but you know,
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when he when he got in trouble in Russia, when he when they when they yanked his visa,
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so he couldn't go back to Moscow, Tony Blair went to St. Petersburg. And he was going to intervene
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on Bill Browder's behalf with Vladimir Putin. So he was going to bring up Bill Browder
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in in a meeting with Vladimir Putin in 2006. You know, a hedge fund guy who gets the prime minister
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to intervene on your behalf so that you can get your visa to go back to Russia. That's not a that's
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not an ordinary operator. And you know, at that he wasn't a particularly you know, his fund was
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at top four billion dollars. That's not a particularly big hedge fund. That's not
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significant enough for a prime minister to go and intervene on your behalf. But somehow, in this case,
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this happened in India in the end, it didn't happen because just when Blair and Putin were supposed
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to meet, Israel attacked Lebanon. So then that all got derailed. But he has very, very top level
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protection. He gets doors open, he got like that, John McCain to cooperate with him.
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Cornyn, a whole bunch of these people, these gatekeepers in the US Congress.
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So was Blair prime minister at the time that he went to Moscow?
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Yes. When when when who went to Moscow? When he went to intervene with Russia on
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St. Petersburg? Yes, yes, he was the prime minister at the time.
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Yes, of course, I know that the prime minister, him, Tony Blair, he has a criminal record for
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costaging under a different name. Did you know that his middle names?
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Like some gay business? Well, costaging is, I'm not an expert on it, because essentially it's
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it's males, you know, with a homosexual tendency, should we say, to frequent public toilets and
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solicit. Is that is that for real? Or is that like? No, that's real. That's real? Yes, you need to
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write about it. I can put you in touch with people who know about it. No, I mean, I've read this
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somewhere. Charles Linton Blair, Charles Linton. Yes, yes. He's got four Christian names.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I know about that. But I thought like maybe it was a BS story,
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you know. Well, no, I think, you know, so, you know, he's compromised. But so many politicians,
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you know, they they deliberately compromised in weird ways, you know. So I heard at once I heard
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from someone who was authentic, should we say, or I thought was authentic, you know, that some.
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But he's he's the knight companion of the most noble order of the guarder.
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He's beyond reproach. Oh, no, he he's got a terrible reputation in the UK. So he probably
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was behind the murder of David Kelly. That's how I know about Blair. And I also knew about Mandelson
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way before he was appointed to the British Ambassador post in. Yeah. And who is
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watching with Mandelson BFF with Jacob Rothschild? It's his. Mandelson was always bad news, you know,
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and and and there was no way, in my opinion, that he could ever pass a security check. No, no,
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absolutely. And of course, that's what they've been going on now on Earth. Sure. Well, you know.
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2:34:37
But did you know that Keir Starmer has a trans child? And so does Angela Rayner and no, I had
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no idea. And one other who's really top of the British government at the moment. And the Daily
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Mail, the one of the top journalists at the Daily Mail, Sue Reed, told me this. She's a friend of
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mine because we were working together on David Kelly. And she told me out of the blue, she said,
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Steve, did you know that Keir Starmer, there were two females, Angela Rainer's one, you know, who
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wears the frocks literally, the childish frocks, you could say. And I think was it Yvette Cooper,
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who's kind of vice chairman of the Labour Party or something. Sorry, the deputy prime minister.
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That's right. So these three, the top three in the Labour Party, such as it is, they all have trans
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children. That wouldn't matter were it not for the fact that they're also pushing the trans agenda.
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And Alex, the British public don't know about it. And I said to, so Sue Reed told me, you know,
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a journalist, shall we say, told me, a top journalist who knows everything in the UK.
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And she told me, Steve, did you know these people? And the Daily Mail has known this for years.
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I said, why haven't they published it? So the British people know that these people at the top
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of the Labour Party are compromised on that issue and probably on many others. And she said, it's,
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I can't do it. I've tried. But also I got the impression that she even she didn't understand
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why it was important. Are all three of these Jewish Yvette Cooper, Angela Rainer and Keir Starmer?
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I think Yvette Cooper, I'm not quite sure about whether it's Yvette Cooper, but
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the one who's deputy, the Home Secretary, I think it was, that's Angela Rainer, I think.
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The deputy prime minister and the prime minister all have trans children. But that wouldn't matter
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were it not for the fact that they were also in the background pushing for the trans agenda, you
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know. And also you could argue, I would argue, that anyone who has a trans child and has gone
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down that road, you know, they failed as a parent, so they shouldn't be leading the country.
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But also what are the odds? What are the odds that three government ministers have
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trans children? Absolutely. Like all these Hollywood celebrities.
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It's like a few dozen of them have trans children. Well, yes, but this is the UK.
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And the top three people in the UK have trans children. And the British public don't know about
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it. But the Daily Mail does and has done for years. So that's a great thing for you to write
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about, Alex. No, but it's not my thing, you know. I don't, you know, like if Tony Blair had gay sex
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2:37:51
in public restrooms, I don't particularly care about that, you know. No public toilets.
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What did I say? Restaurants. No, no, restrooms. I meant restrooms. Sorry. Yeah.
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I don't particularly care. It's his business. But, you know, I'm a lot more interested.
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Nobody has a criminal record. How these... He has a criminal record.
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Nothing's going to happen to him. You know, nothing's going to happen to him.
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It's not about him. It's about the system, you know. And the thing I'm most interested in,
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it's not because people are flawed that we are in this situation. It's that the system incentivizes
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certain kinds of behavior and leads us to certain outcomes. And so I'm very interested in
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understanding these incentives and trying to understand whether we can change those incentives.
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We can remove them or turn them around completely towards ends that we actually do desire.
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Like, you know, peace and prosperity would be nice.
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2:39:00
Well, I think they're deliberately compromised so that they can be blackmailed. And essentially,
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they become putty. You know, they can be manipulated by others in the future.
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So I have also heard, Alex, I don't know whether it's true, that British MPs, when they go to the
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House of Commons for the first time, within the first couple of weeks that they're the,
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you know, the new MPs, they're compromised. And for example, I was told that they go into a public
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toilet, they're not doing anything wrong. And all of a sudden a child appears and someone
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2:39:36
takes a photograph. And from that moment, they're captured. Really? Yeah. And they also get invited
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to Israel. All of the... Yes, yes, yes. That part I know, yes. But they can't say no, but they get
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invited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's weird, isn't it? Yes, yes, yes. Anyway, sorry about that. So, Alex,
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thank you so much for speaking to us. Thank you very much. One last question, Alex. Yes. So,
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2:40:03
Lars says that what you're saying about Carl Bildt is not true. And that may be the case. He knows
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2:40:09
him very well. So I can understand why he says that. No, no, I... I'm saying it's very unlikely
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based on... But Alex, whose opinion I also respect, says the opposite. So, Alex? No,
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I'm not saying the opposite. I was just... I had the suspicion of him and John Brennan, the CIA guy.
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Yes, but what I'm trying to say, Alex, you could be right. Your intuition could be right, you know.
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Anyway. Yeah, but you know... Carl has enough on his balance sheet. He doesn't need another one.
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2:40:47
Well... There's a lot of things that are bad. I would say not that one. Another... Yeah, and another
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2:40:52
candidate is Sikorski himself. Well, yes, but Lars, the point I'm trying to make is that Alex has
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a thought about that for a reason. And Alex is often right in the face of everybody. So anyway,
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that's all I'm saying. Yeah, it's a... It's going to be a 50-50 thing. Either it's true or it's not.
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Absolutely, yes. But you're right about Bill Browder, it seems. Yeah, yeah, I think, well,
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they wouldn't have banned my book if I wasn't really. Well, exactly. Oh, there's one other thing. I
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can't quite remember what Victoria Newlands... She's famous for giving testimony to the Senate,
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was it? And she let something out as if, you know, everybody knew about it, but they didn't know about
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it until Victoria... Well, about the bio... She let out the cat out of the bag about the biolabs.
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Yes, that's right, yes. She was handpicking the government in Kiev after the coup.
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She was very famous for saying, fuck the EU, on an intercepted call with Jeffrey Pyatt, the ambassador.
1415
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Oh, so was she behind the Nord Stream pipeline explosions? No, no, no, no, no.
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No, I mean, she was probably in the loop, but she... She actually had a presentation on the 18th
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of December, 2013, which was sponsored by Chevron, where she went through that the US State Department
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2:42:34
had spent five billion dollars on democracy in Ukraine, and later in a different video, she said
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that the Nord Stream will not happen. Yes, yes, correct, correct. Yeah, so she was in the loop,
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but I don't think she was the decision maker there. Oh, I also heard that... I didn't know this,
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but apparently there were four pipelines. Well, one of them hadn't been completed,
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so it wasn't in use, but so there were four. There were four and three were destroyed.
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Well, actually one wasn't completed at the time, so two were destroyed, and one is still operational.
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2:43:16
Yes, correct. I think they were finished, but they only destroyed three. Yes, correct, they were all
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completed, but only three were destroyed. And the Swedish government made a survey just after the
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2:43:32
explosion, and they came up with nothing. Lars, so why don't you submit a Freedom of Information Act
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request to the Swedish authorities, the people who measure the radiation from nuclear explosions,
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and ask them whether they have any information around the time, you know, because the Swedish
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authority I'm thinking of, I don't know what they called, they were responsible for
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telling the world that Chernobyl had happened. So what I'm trying to say is they should have been,
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you know, if what our physicist told us, you know, was true, and I think it may have been true
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that they used a mini nuke or whatever in the in the center of Europe, and the Swedish, as far as
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I understand, there was no mention of nuclear radiation fallout, which they were measuring,
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you know, for Chernobyl, but didn't for Nord Stream. Why, you know, I don't know how you'd ask the
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question. I like Hans Benjamin Brown very much, okay. I've been in his kitchen, I've been in his
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2:44:47
apartment. We spent hours and hours on what happened. I took that information to a Swedish
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2:44:55
professor. What's his name? What's the Swedish professor's name? Professor Hedberg. Yeah. And he
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wrote, he did a description job, he wrote a report on it, on the six claims that Hans Benjamin has,
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2:45:12
and he absolutely destroyed all of them. I have asked him to come on to medical doctors.
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2:45:18
And he wouldn't come. Maybe debate. He said, and I asked him, why hasn't anyone else said this?
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2:45:29
Because when they read his report, they see that this is just bullshit. Nobody would spend any time on it.
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2:45:34
He did spend time on it. Well, yes, but that's one man's opinion. And essentially, he was...
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2:45:39
I can send you the report, if I can find it somewhere. I have it in one of my hard disks.
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2:45:46
But when I saw his response, I decided not to spend any time on it. I still like Hans Benjamin
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very much. On the opinion of one man, Lars, he could have had a reason for saying that.
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2:46:00
He had reasons for saying it. It might not have been the correct reasons. That's what I'm trying to say.
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It's a 10 page report. I think it's very good, actually. I've never seen the report.
1448
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2:46:13
No, of course you haven't. But I can send it to you. I didn't want to talk to Hans Benjamin, did he?
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I remember now we discussed this previously. He thinks it's a waste of time.
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2:46:21
Ah, well, you can't say that. I could say that about...
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His question is, who paid Hans Benjamin to do this? Because this is such crap.
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2:46:39
He can't understand how a scientist would come up with what he came up with. That's his attitude.
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2:46:45
Well, Hans Benjamin Braun came from Zurich, the famous physics laboratories there.
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2:46:49
And he was trained there. And he's a professor.
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2:46:52
I know. I have spent more time with Hans Benjamin than you have.
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2:46:57
So it's one man against another.
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2:47:02
Tell me what I should do. And I will do that. Tell me what I should do.
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2:47:08
Well, I did say that why didn't this guy come and talk to Hans Benjamin and we could just
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hear the arguments and make our own minds up. But you wouldn't do that.
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Because he thinks he has spent enough time on Hans Benjamin.
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2:47:21
Ah, right. OK. Yeah, yeah. OK. Well, so he's right, is he? I don't accept that.
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2:47:28
I found Hans Benjamin OK. And I didn't think he made... I'm not a theoretical physicist, obviously.
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2:47:31
But I don't like someone coming along...
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2:47:33
Charles Hedberg is.
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2:47:37
...and trying to discredit and successfully discrediting in your eyes
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2:47:45
with no information imparted to anyone other than you. That's not right. OK, then.
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2:47:47
Thank you, Lars.
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2:47:53
Stephen, everyone, I'm afraid I have to go.
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Yes. OK. Sorry. Anyway, very interesting. Thank you.
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Thank you very much for the invite. It was a pleasure.
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2:48:03
Alex, Alex, can I ask you...
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2:48:06
No, we're going now, we're going now, Marv. Sorry.
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2:48:09
No, no, no. I'm OK.
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2:48:19
I wanted to ask if you looked at the DC Hilton shooting last night. It looked to me like a
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stinky put-up job. Have you looked at that?
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2:48:24
No, I haven't.
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2:48:26
OK, thanks.
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2:48:29
All right. Bye, everyone.
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Thank you, Alex. And thank you, Lars.
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Very good.
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2:48:47
I have a comment, Stephen, about last night's debacle at the White House.