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was from Dublin. Jerry, as you know, Australia was our whole
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our whole Catholic, our whole Catholicism in this country for
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two centuries has been dominated by the Irish. So I grew up being
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taught by the Irish. So let's get this show on the road.
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Welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and
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today's and welcome to today's discussion. This group was
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founded by Dr. Stephen Frost during the darkest days of the
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COVID scam responses. We have a desire to pursue truth, ethics,
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justice, freedom and health. Stephen has stood up against
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government and power over the years and has been a
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whistleblower and activist his medical specialties radiology.
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I'm Charles Covess, the moderator of this group. I'm
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Australasius passion provocateur. Our message in this
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group is to do what you're passionate about. I practiced
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law for 20 years before changing career 30 years ago. And over
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the last 12 years, I've helped parents and lawyers to
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strategize remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad
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medical advice. I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company.
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Hemp is going to be a massive protector for all of us,
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everybody. We comprise lots of professions, including lawyers,
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doctors, homeopaths, journalists, scientists,
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filmmakers, professors, peacemakers, troublemakers, and
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plenty of financiers to boot from all and we're from all
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around the world. Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.
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Now many of us proudly say yes, we are passionate anti vaxxers.
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And let me assure you that the Australian vaccination risks
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network that was founded in 1994, of which I am now the
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treasurer, we're about to call a moratorium on all vaccines, not
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just COVID jabs. If this is your first time here, welcome and
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feel free to introduce yourself in the chat and where you're
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from. If you publish a news letter or podcast or you have a
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radio TV show, or you've written a book, just like David Webb has
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put the links into the chat so we can follow you promote you
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and find you by the way, and Alex and I think Mads you also
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wrote a book that anyway, Alex, we promoted your book. Most of
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us understand we're in the middle of World War Three and
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the various battle lines as part of this war. Some of us believe
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we're in a continuation of World War Two. Most of us understand
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the development of science and the science is never settled.
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Some of us believe in viruses, some of us do not. Some are on
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the fence. Stephen and I are constantly criticized for daring
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to put anybody on this program who believes in viruses, Jerry,
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you're one of those. Okay, so we get criticized. How could you
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possibly put anybody onto this? You guys are total idiots for
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letting anybody who believes in a virus to speak on this
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program. So there you are. This meeting runs and we're and also
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plenty of people say that anybody who questions Israel
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means this whole this whole group here is violently anti
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Semitic. So there you are. This meeting runs for two and a half
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hours after which for those with the time Tom Rodman runs a video
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telegram meeting Tom puts the links into the chat if you're
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able to join. We'll listen to Jerry and Alex and Mads and
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David Webb for as long as they wish to speak. And then we have
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q&a but we'll decide how we're going to structure this. Stephen
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questions for 15 minutes, there's no censorship, it's a free
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speech environment with appropriate moderating free
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speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human
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freedoms. If you're offended by anything be offended, we're
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genuinely not interested, we reject the offense industry that
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requires nobody to say anything that may offend another. And to
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that end on this question of the dramas going on in Israel
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now. It's, it's a very interesting question, you know,
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that if anybody questions, if anybody questions what Israel
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does, that's anti Semitic. It's, it's if anybody like it, like
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it's quite extraordinary, the labels that get thrown at people
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so just observe your own reaction to what's happening
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generally. free speech is an interesting game and the labels
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of anti Semitism of racism of transphobic that's right. And a
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look fees last week speaker is accused of being transphobic for
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daring to question gender transition. So query the value of
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labels. However, we come with an attitude and perspective of love,
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not fear, fear is the opposite of love fear squashes you love on
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the other hand expands you. I remind you of Dr. Shiva's
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wonderful swarm video where he says the solution to what's
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happening on the planet is for men and women to cooperate and to
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not get pushed into buckets of people not get into identity
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politics, but for us as men and women to push back against the
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global cabal that is driving extraordinary divisiveness on
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our planet. These twice weekly meetings are not just talk
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fest and extraordinary range of actions and initiatives have
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meetings. If you have a solution or product or links or resources
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that will help people put the details in the chat if you have
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people you think we should invite, send their email
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details to me we'll put them on the invitation list. The
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meetings recorded and is uploaded on the rumble channel.
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And now welcome to Jerry Brady, Alex Craner, Mads Palswig and
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David Rogers Webb. And thank you, Stephen Gay for creating
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this group and organising these four geniuses on money to join
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us and gentlemen, I know you haven't done a huge amount of
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briefing. And the question that the question that I have for you
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to contemplate as you decide how you're going to play this with
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the four of you talking about money, about global machinations
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on money about what should I do if I sell my house for $2 million?
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house? It's unencumbered? Do I sell my house? If I get $2
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million cash? What am I going to do with it? Where do I put it?
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What country do I move to? And these are all the different
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questions that have been have been asked of me in various
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forums, for that I moderate. So they're the sorts of financial
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matters that are exercising many minds on this call. And so
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gentlemen, over to you, Jerry and Alex and Mads and David, have
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you guys spoken about anything and how you want to play it or
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just want to launch into it, make some opening statements and
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we'll have Q&A.
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think the ones who, it's not criticism of the other two, but
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I think the ones who maybe are least shy about deciding which
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way the conversation should go are Alex and Jerry.
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So there you are, Alex and Jerry are the least shy. Mads, I
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consider that an insult to you, but anyway, be that as it may.
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No, I'm being playful, Stephen.
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I was just going to answer Charles's question, Alex, before
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we get into the world of money.
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situation, Charles, every person's financial situation is
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actually different. And it's very hard to give you advice
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because I don't know if you've got an auntie who's a
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multimillionaire who's about to die and give you 100 million
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dollars. I have no idea what your circumstances are or
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anybody else. So it's an avoidance of the question,
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really, perhaps Alex might like to answer it a little bit more
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carefully. But if you if you sell your your real assets or
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financial assets and go to cash, you then have to place the cash
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somewhere. Okay, we've got to then reinvest in another asset.
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assets. And the main reason to liquidate your assets would be
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the idea that we're entering into an asset deflation crisis.
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not liquidation is the wrong strategy.
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dematerialization of assets?
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what Jerry just said, to to complicate matters further. So
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one one thing I, you know, I, I, I think it's very difficult to
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understand the history that we're coming out of. And but one
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way of doing that is to, you know, work with living memory.
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this living memory of, and this call, living memory of what
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happened in the early 20th century. And responding to what
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Jerry is saying, one of the things that I found in looking
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at my grandfather's history. Now he this this grandfather was a
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surgeon in World War One, this medical unit into France, and
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came came back. And that's a whole story. But in 1923, he
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bought these three lots in Shaker Heights, in Cleveland.
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the 20s. And there were ups and downs in the bubble, but it was
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a profound bubble. And what most people don't know is there was a
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further real estate bubble after the stock market crashed, because
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the Fed provided even more liquidity after the stock market
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crashed. And so we've, we've been living through some of that.
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properties at the top, and put the money into the stock market,
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then when the stock market crashed, he would have lost
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everything. So he was probably glad he kept the real properties.
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after the stock market crash, which is kind of what we've been
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in during the COVID period, if he had sold those properties and
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put the money in the banks, he would have lost all the money in
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the banks. So after, I guess, was another 30 years, my
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grandmother sold the properties for a third of what he paid for
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them. So it's not a matter of the valuation level. It's a matter
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of having anything. It's a matter of holding because the price
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level can change. You know, we're, I believe we're going, we will
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go into a profound deflationary collapse. So it's, it's not a
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matter of where you get out, you know, because as you're saying,
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what do you put the money into? I believe that, you know,
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constructs are dissolving, unreal things are dissolving. We
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will, we will find that real, we'll, we'll rediscover the
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value of many things that we've lost recognition of in our, in
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our culture, in our lives. But, you know, anyway, I think it's,
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I, I say it's important to get real, to really think about how
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you're going to live and to have real things.
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So have we decided on that, Alex?
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learned about this, and I've spent pretty much the last 15 or even
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longer years of my life, basically focusing on inflation as
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the coming challenge. And what are the effective strategies and
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what are not the effective strategies of dealing with it?
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There are two, there are two asset classes that provide any
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meaningful protection from inflation, and that is commodity
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futures and farmland and real estate, you know, if you, you
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know, real estate sounds like something real, like a real
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asset, but David is very right. Usually all these things that
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nothing in an inflationary environment, which is where
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we're going. So if you go back 100 years to the Weimar Republic,
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which is, you know, instructive for our purposes, that that that's
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a valid experience. When the whole crisis unraveled at the
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end of 1922, in December 1922, you would have been able to buy
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the whole of Mercedes Benz company for the price equivalent
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to 327 of their cars. So that was the market cap of the
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company at that time. And, you know, I don't know this, but I
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would guess that they must have had that many cars around, you
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know, on their on their production lot and around their
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dealerships. So it means that the company was basically
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worthless. And also, in terms of real estate, at that same time,
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you would have been able to buy a six bedroom house in a in a in
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a good neighborhood of Berlin for 100 us US dollars. And so
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what that tells you is neither stocks, neither equities, nor
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real estate really offer any meaningful protection in an in
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an in an how do you call it inflationary crisis? And so, you
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know, what are what are the real things that can as I said,
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farmland commodity futures? Well, you know, not everybody can
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go into commodity futures. But there's always things like silver
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and gold, like real ones, you know, something you can hold in
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your hand, not not ETFs and and various bank products. I think
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that people should focus on preserving their purchasing
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power. You know, tracking your wealth in nominal terms is going
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to become meaningless. In an inflationary environment, you
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know, there are two there are two possibilities. Either the
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stock markets crash, we have a we get a we get a big bear
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market and the stock market loses 60 70 80 90%. Or the stock
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market goes vertical up. This is what happened in Weimar Republic.
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This is what happened in Venezuela in 2015 2016. This is
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what happened in Argentina. This happened in Israel in 1986 and
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so on. So there's a lot of these examples where actually country
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goes into a stagflationary crisis and an accelerating rate
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of inflation and stocks go go, you know, high very sharply. But
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the investors still end up losing everything because the loss of
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purchasing power of money outstrips the the the any gains
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that you have in stock markets. And so I mentioned the price of
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the market cap of Mercedes Benz Corporation after the Weimar
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Republic and that was Weimar was an example where stock markets
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went up vertical during the during the inflationary
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unraveling. But you know, rather than worrying about, you know,
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generating good returns and making money on inflation, I
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think that the plan should be the strategic plan for everybody
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should be to try to preserve the purchasing power of the of their
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wealth to the to the greatest extent possible. Because once the
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crisis does unravel, then you're going to be able to pick up real
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stuff for next to nothing, you know, like a six bedroom villa
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in the outskirts of Berlin or Mercedes Benz corporations. Who
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knows what's going to be out there. But so even even if you
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had a reasonable plot of farmland or some gold or some
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silver, silver and I very much agree with with with what David
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is saying in in in the great taking is that you need to get
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rid of debt, you need to not go into the crisis with a lot of
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personal debt or if you have a business, business debt. And then
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you know, if you preserved yourself, then you're in a good
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position to start rebuilding wealth. And so if I sold my
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house now, I would probably try to acquire real assets, but not,
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you know, apartments, other other kinds, but silver, gold
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farmland. I would also try to, you know, work together with the
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local community. Ah, okay, Janet, yes, inflation and
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deflation. It's not a different. It's not a different thing in
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this thing. In this sense, you're going to get inflation in
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nominal terms. So the prices of things are going to go up. But
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the deflation is that at the end of it, everything's going to be
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in a state of collapse, you know, deflation in real terms and
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inflation in nominal terms. I don't know if that makes sense.
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purchasing power of the money of the currency. But as that
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estate and stocks and bonds are going to collapse. So that's
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deflation. That's about it. Yeah, I think the crypto is not a
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bad idea. Not a bad idea to diversify. You know, I wouldn't
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put all my eggs in that basket. But, you know, if you buy a
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little bit of silver and a little bit of gold and a little
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bit of farmland, I would add a little bit of Bitcoin to that
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mix as well. You know, we don't know what's going to happen, but
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we're gonna get and then you know, something very important
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is that I learned from from David in his book is that they
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could make owning gold illegal again. And so then your
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allocation to gold and silver could also become a liability.
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You wouldn't be you might not be able to use it. So Alex, we've
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got it. That's, let's just hang on. I'm worried. I'm worried we
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haven't heard from Mads. Say hello, Mads and then go back to
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Yeah, I will say hello. And then after Jerry, I have something
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I just wanted to clarify what Alex was talking about there and
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what Dave was talking about for listeners. There's CPI
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inflation, and there's asset price inflation. So this is what
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both Alex and David are talking about. And so that's a bit
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confusing to a lot of people. You've just got to if you
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understand, though, if you read the newspapers and magazines,
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and you try to get your information there, you'll only
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ever hear about CPI inflation. You'll never hear about asset
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price, inflation or asset price deflation. So that's this, you've
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got to get your mind attuned to those two different concepts of
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asset price inflation, CPI or price of goods and services
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inflation. So the two different things. Basically, they're the
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destination for money. And so it's where the destinations.
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So Jerry's the CPI deflation, does that always coexist with
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asset deflation? Or can you have both inflating?
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Well, okay. This all gets very complicated. In some Alex was
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referring to some of the episodes in history where there's
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been hyperinflation. hyperinflation is not high
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inflation. Okay, it's not it's where the currency collapses.
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Okay, so if the currency collapses, and you're holding
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that currency, then all the price of everything's everyday
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goods and services skyrocket. So that's a hyper inflation
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re event. Okay, so there's high inflation, and then there's
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hyperinflation. So there but there again, two different,
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totally different concepts hyperinflation is currency
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collapse. And I've answered your question, Stephen, but so so
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you've got CPI, your CPI, you've got assets and you've got
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currency, yes.
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concepts, the CPI cost of goods and services inflation is asset
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price inflation. And then Alex has brought in the concept of
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when a hyperinflation event occurs. hyperinflation event,
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however, is a currency collapse, where the where the population
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switches to an alternative currency. And so, so at the same
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time as there's a hyperinflation event occurring, there's a
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hyper deflation event occurring at exactly the same time in the
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alternative currency. Okay, so if you're if you're in
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Venezuela, four years ago, whatever, or in Zimbabwe 15
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years ago, whatever it was, and you're holding the local
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currency, then then the price of everything is skyrocketing up
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woods. But if you're holding US dollars, the price of everything
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is collapsing. So this is both occurring at exactly the same
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time. Understand that? Yes, that's in a very, that's in a
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currency collapse. So you get both events occurring at exactly
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the same time, hyperinflation, hyper deflation, same time. And
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in that's a very rare event, currency collapse is not a
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common event. And you've got to have an alternative currency for
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the people to switch to that to happen. But in normal everyday
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activities of finance and economics, you have varying
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degrees of asset price inflation and CPI inflation and deflation
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occurring, you know, in sync in some sort of harmony, we'll call
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it harmony, but that you get excesses of asset price
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inflation, and then you get deflation. And this is going on
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all the time. Okay, but if you understand in a hyperinflation
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event, currency collapse, you get hyper deflation at the same
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time, if you're, if you're holding the alternative currency,
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then they're occurring at exactly the same time. Okay,
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understand that? That's the most extreme example of everything,
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which is what Alex and David are talking about. In other words,
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if your whole if your currency is collapsing, and all of the
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assets that you hold are in that currency, denominated in that
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currency, then you are experiencing a massive hyper
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inflation. But everybody holding the alternative currency is
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experiencing a hyper deflation. It's the best way to try and get
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your head around that. Okay. Clarified rather than made it
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more mystified.
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So while we're on currency, Jerry,
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the hang on, that's what's going to come in soon.
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Oh, yeah, I was going to ask Matt. So, yes, okay. Well, how
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do you get a reserve?
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Have a breather, Steven, and think of your next question. And
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now I want to say something now. Yeah.
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Oh, fine. Yeah.
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Okay, so guys, listen, we're talking about inflation, various
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foreign types of inflation. We're talking about giving each
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other an advice, how we can avoid suffering the consequences
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of the crimes committed by the current mafia controlling the
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world. Okay. So, yes, let's just play for I'll play along for two
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minutes. Let's just play that we are powers trying just to see
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how we can survive the onslaught on humanity by the mafia. Yes, we
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could put all our currency in the right currency, be a Nazi.
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And what happened to them in 1945 in Denmark, they collaborated
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with the Germans, tell you what happens. They were burning their
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Danish Kroner notes in their gardens. Because in 1945, there
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was a currency reform, but they would come and come by you.
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Yes, you could keep your your Danish Kroner and convert them
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to the new Kroner unless you have been collaborating with the
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Germans. If you collaborated with Germans, they were gone. So
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they were burning their currencies. So you could be doing
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all the right things. You could be sucking up to the people with
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the biggest guns for years and you and you look good and safe to
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be screwed overnight. You can also buy farmland and move out in
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the countryside and everything is beautiful. That's even even 50
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kilometers to the nearest neighbor. It's only a matter of
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time when people are hungry enough. You might run out of
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bullets. You can also also buy gold. Lucky you. Yes, you found
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the right thing. You've bought gold. Oh, you are so clever.
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Until someone comes and takes it away from you, you're not so
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clever anymore. Right? Exactly. Could we just for crying out
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loud, change this conversation to what we should be doing?
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Instead of trying to use our skills, our knowledge, our
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wisdom on how we can advise each other in surviving while all the
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stupid people are dying. I'm not having any of that. Okay, so what
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we should be talking about is we should talk about the world is
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abundant. The world is truly abundant. There is no reason
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anybody is suffering. The only reason any people are suffering
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is because we are allowing our politicians to send money to
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wars. Another single war has ever been because some Danish
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farmer woke up and said, hey, I'm going to take all my sons and
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go to Sweden and kill some Swedes. While a Swedish farmer
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never said, hey, I want to go go to Denmark and kill some Danes.
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It never happens. It was bankers wars. They are all bankers
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wars, and they all benefit the rich people. We should be
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talking about we stop the fucking mafia. That's what we
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should be talking about. Now they want to come with universal
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basic income. Why do they want to do that? Because they will
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have to. Now there's so much innovation, so much artificial
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intelligence already now only 1% of Danes are in agriculture.
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We produce food for 60 million people. We produce. We have 5.9
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million. We produce food for 10 times more people than we are.
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Then we have 2% in industry. We have net exporters of industry.
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Thanks to all our 700,000 summer houses and a coastline of 7,500
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kilometers, which is two and a half times longer than France's,
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we have so many German tourists. We even have a surplus on the
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tourist balance. The world is so abundant. What is the rest of the
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97% doing? Well, we're basically, they're working in
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the public sector creating problems and stupid laws for
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each other. You have to wear a mask, you have to sit down, you
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have to stand up, you have to take it off, you have to put it
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off. We have to discuss about whether we should be vaccinated
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or not vaccinated. We're talking about silly things. When we sent
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home the entire public sector, nobody noticed. Nobody noticed.
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Because they're not producing anything. If anything, they're
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producing negative producers. What we should be talking about
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in our group is how do we fuck the mafia who's trying to kill
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us, who's trying to poison us. That's what we should be talking
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about. If you want to talk about that, I'm absolutely happy to
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stay on this call. If you want to have a talk about inflation
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and stuff like that, explain people something that they
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probably never would if they haven't understood inflation.
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People here on this call are my age, most of them. If you
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haven't understood inflation now, you're probably not going to
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understand it within the next two hours anyway. And again, even
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if you understood it, that could be an event like in 1991 in
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Russia. So we had the richest country in the world, no debt at
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all. Nobody had a debt in their flat. Nobody had a debt in their
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house. The government owned all the corporations. And Howard
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bastards and Wall Street banksters flew in together with
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corrupt Zionist politicians. And they printed $250 billion. Just
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like we know Victoria Nuland, she paid $5 billion for regime
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change in Ukraine. The Russians are more expensive. I don't know
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it's because they're less corrupt. It's just like the
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question of the woman, OK, will you sleep with me for a million?
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Yes, we'll know. Now you're a prostitute. So now we can just
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talk about the price. So the Russians are just more expensive.
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But $250 billion. Then they paid off the entire doomer and they
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convinced them that they were bankrupt. And they made a
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currency conversion where they took all the money of all the
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savings of the entire Russian population in a country that
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didn't they didn't have any debt. How can you do that? Even even
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other nations were net debtors to Russia. It was the richest
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country in the world in 1991. If you came if you'd come in and
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made just like said to them to the population, you can buy you
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can have a mortgage, you can buy your flat from the government
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for whatever $100,000. You can pay it back on interest free over
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40 years, they would have monetized the whole economy, they
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could done anything else. Instead, they were starving. More
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than 6 million Russians died until Putin came to power. So any
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advice you guys might might give and you are some of the cleverest
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guys in the world. I've seen a lot of banksters out there and
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you guys are way up there among the most clever ones, not the
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most banksters once. But we no matter what, what advice we might
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be able to give someone today, it could be totally wrong because
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we miss one component. And the mafia have always got another
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component of another crime we haven't thought about. So what I
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really think we should be focusing on is not how we can
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survive. We should focus on how the hell can we get rid of the
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That's what we should be brainstorming about.
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Excellent, Mats. I spoke to so you weren't so shy as I thought.
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No, I've seen that side of you before. So you're at your best
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when you're speaking like that from the heart, Mats.
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Yeah, I know. Because you all know that I'm saying the right
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thing. You know, you know, it's right. You know, I'm right. What
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can you do? I mean, and I know that you don't hate you don't
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hate people for being wrong. You hate people for being right,
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especially if events prove you wrong, and them right. Tell me
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about it. I know all about it. So I know I know that. But at the
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end of the day, we should we should try to get rid of them.
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And I think with Gaza now we have a chance now. People are so
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scared of saying the J word. Now I'm not because my wife is
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Jewish. So she's even a real one. Sefati, Levi, she's the
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same name as Moses. So she's actually not an Askenazi. She's
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a real semi. So they can't it's gonna be hard to call me that,
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right. But I'm certainly certainly an anti Zionist. And
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now we have a chance. Because they do they defending the right
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to defend yourself does not mean that you can break the Geneva
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Convention. It does not mean you can kill children. It does not
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mean it. Nowhere does it say if you feel like it, you can break
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the common human rights, you can break natural law, you can break
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the Geneva Convention. If, if, if you can make up a phony story
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about 40, behead babies, which is not true. But if you can make
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it up, and it looks right, you make a good Hollywood movie about
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it, and it looks credible, and you can and you can buy all the
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news agencies in the world, tell the story. And you can you can
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you can make it credible that maybe someone had done that, then
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you're allowed to go in and kill 5000 there are right now there
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are 1000 so I'm a little bit agitated because there are 1000
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kids in right now in the rubble in Palestine right now. So I'm a
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little bit agitated because I'm appalled with a lot of freedom
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fighters.
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So Matt, so Matt, so Matt, let's I started by saying, anyone who
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questions what Israel is doing is then accused of being
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anti semitic. Now, I don't want to go and we're not going to go
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into analyzing Israel, Palestine, because you go,
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you're going bigger. Okay, so you say, how do we deal with
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this? Don't deal with inflation, deflation, you don't know what's
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going to happen. How do we get rid of the mouth? Let me accept
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those terms. But the problem, the problem, we have to go for
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the root of the problem. The root of the problem is that
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United States are not adhering to to the Geneva Convention,
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they're not abiding to any international court of law,
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court of treaties, whatever. They even say out loud, if ever
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any American soldier commits a war crime, and he's taken to
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the international court of hate, we're going to bomb that place,
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we're going to rescue them. Obama said that. Okay, so they
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stated they don't do it. And the problem is that they have dual
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citizenship. How can you have a country where the Federal
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Reserve is run by people who are Israeli and American dual
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citizens? How can you have a country where they almost their
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entire Congress, I don't know how many half of them, whatever,
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are dual citizens? That's a problem. And they do not adhere
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to the Geneva Convention. One day, it's okay to go in and kill
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Gaddafi and go into another country's internal affairs,
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because allegedly he killed his own people. It turned out it was
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not true. It was a fake rumor started by one person from
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Amnesty International. It was not true. But then it was okay to
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go in. Another time in Ukraine, where 15,000 civilians are being
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murdered by the government, you even have politicians standing on
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the parliament in Ukraine saying, we will, the Russian
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speaking kids shall live in basements, because we'll bomb
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them. And then they bombed them for eight years. And then it's
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wrong to interfere. So which one is it? Can you interfere in a
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country's internal or not? And the Americans, they do whatever
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they please. And they do that because they can play the Holocaust
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card. They can call you an anti-Semite if you're criticizing
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them. And then they control the money press so they can also
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bankrupt you. And that is the problem. And I think we should
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use the chance we have now, where it's clear for everybody to see
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what they are. They are genocidal madmen. You have people standing
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in parliament in Israel saying we should, that the Palestinians
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are animals, and they should be slaughtered and genocided, all
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of them. I'm not saying it. There are people who are in
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parliament who are saying that. And that is not okay. And I
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don't care what anybody in this group says about that. If anybody
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says this, that that is okay, they should be thrown out of
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this group immediately.
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0:38:21
No, listen, listen, settle down. No one is being thrown out of
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this group. Number one. Number two, this group has talked for
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0:38:28
the depopulation agenda that's on it. It's far more than the
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number of Palestinians of Jim Thorpe. Sorry. Jim Thorpe says
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50 million people have been killed so far, right by this
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0:38:41
genocidal cabal. So let's go to who these people are. Who are
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these people? Because David Webb talks about these people in his
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book, but doesn't name them. I we've shared charts in this
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0:38:52
group, about how the global cabal is organized, of who's who
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these players are. David doesn't name them. Any comments
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from others?
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So Matt, I was just thinking, so what you're saying, Matt, to
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get so we can't plan in times of serious crime, is that right? And
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actually, that's not the problem anyway.
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I mean, we should stop, we should stop, you know, throwing
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water on a fire, we should we should catch the guy who's
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putting fire on the house. It's that simple. Who is that? Come
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on. People who are breaking. If you don't adhere to the Geneva
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Convention, we should all come together against them. If they
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are Muslims, we should go against them. If they're
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Americans, we should go against them.
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Come on. Come on. You want solutions. We should all come
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together to push back against evil. We're all that's why we're
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on this group. This group.
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Exactly. That's my point. Yeah, that's my point. But you are an
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anti-Semite.
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But hang on.
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You should be allowed to kill Palestinian children.
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Where are we after truth, ethics, justice, freedom and
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0:40:03
health? It's great to say that's what Dr. Shiva says in his swarm
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video. So I said at the start, hey, a million of these guys are
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playing 8000 million of us. So the question is, I agree with
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Mads, everybody, this is an abundant world. It's an
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extraordinarily abundant world, unless we're busy killing each
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If I may,
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Oh, sorry.
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So I agree with with Mads sentiment. I don't agree with
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emotional outrage, because, you know, emotional outrage hasn't
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helped us solve anything. And we've been treated to things
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that generate emotional outrage for centuries. This is this is
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not the first episode. I think that, you know, naming who the
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enemy is, is very difficult by name by individual names. I
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could try but I think that the guiding principle, to me is
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something that George Soros said in one of the recent Davos
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speeches that he gave. And that is, he said very correctly, that
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the conflict is between two systems of governance. This is a
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very important thing to keep in mind, two systems of governance.
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So there's a system. It's not, you know, people say the Jews,
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the Jesuits, the Freemasons, the Illuminati, that this that, you
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know, these theories have been going around for decades and
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centuries. And we never fixed anything by going after labels
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and groups, including the Jews.
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0:41:50
So buying gold is good, and farmland is good. That's the
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0:41:51
solution.
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0:41:57
Well, no, Mads. But you know, if they if we lose food product,
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men are free, when they are free, and they have autonomous
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access to food. If they deprive us of food, then we're not free.
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0:42:12
James Madison said, power over a man's sustenance is the power
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over his will. So protecting our own purchasing power, our
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maneuvering space, our food production, farmland should be
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regarded as strategically important as a way to overcome
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0:42:35
this evil. Going out in the street, venting our frustrations
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0:42:40
and emotions isn't it's been done before. It doesn't work.
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Totally disagree.
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0:42:49
Okay, well, I can I can give you centuries worth of track record
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of this kind of action producing absolutely nothing. London was
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0:43:01
chock full of demonstrations. In the run up to World War One. The
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0:43:06
war went on anyway. And millions of people died. People
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0:43:10
understood what was going on. They protested.
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0:43:14
Excuse me. We stopped the lawn epidemics in Copenhagen with our
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0:43:18
pots and pans demonstrations. The Icelandic stopped the
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0:43:21
Icelandic banksters with their pots and pans. So yeah, so I can
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give you just two examples right there where it works. And I can
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assure you it works.
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I'm fucking scared right now. Because of all the demonstrations
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0:43:33
all over the world pro Palestine right now, they are showing the
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0:43:38
whole world is now being brave enough to talk out against the
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0:43:41
Zionists. Everybody's so afraid for being called as an anti
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0:43:44
semi. Everybody's afraid or not being able to have a bank account
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0:43:48
because the bank manager is sucking up to some Zionists who
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0:43:52
are controlling the banking system, right? So yes, it does.
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0:43:55
You have we have to speak out and if more people will speak
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0:43:57
out, we will get our freedom. But if everybody's sitting on
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their on their fence and thinking about buying farmland or buying
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0:44:03
gold, whatever they should buy so that they can survive what
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0:44:05
everybody else is saying,
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0:44:13
may I say something? May I say something? Yes. I am so glad to
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0:44:19
see that has not lost his piss and vinegar. It's great to see.
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0:44:34
I have been thinking about the same things. It's the fact is,
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0:44:41
there is no place to hide from this. I've reached that
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0:44:49
conclusion. You you can't invest your way out of this. You know,
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0:44:54
and so I'm very reluctant to even talk about it in terms of
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0:44:58
what you should do. And that's why in the book, I don't go into
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0:45:02
that. Because it's about something much bigger than that.
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0:45:09
Ultimately, we have to face up to this. And that's what Mads is
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0:45:15
talking about. You you know, you really can't you can't make
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0:45:20
yourself safe. So you know, there's that quote, you know,
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something like the only thing that is needed for evil to
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0:45:32
triumph is for good men to do nothing. And by just worrying
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0:45:36
about how you're going to invest and get safe, you're doing
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0:45:42
nothing to face up to this. You can't run from this. It's like
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0:45:47
this friend of mine, you know, I've cited this very intelligent
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0:45:51
guy, very wealthy. He said, What can we do to protect our
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0:45:58
investments? Nothing. We just have to stop them. Ultimately,
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0:46:05
this is the conclusion. And this is what Mads is talking about.
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0:46:10
You know, years from now, if we live that long, we're going to
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0:46:15
look back and wish we had used the little freedom we have now
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0:46:22
to do something. And, you know, of course, as Alex is saying,
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0:46:26
it's a matter of what what do you do? Of course, you shouldn't
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0:46:32
do ineffective things. And this is what Mads is saying, it is
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0:46:38
possible to do effective things and Mads has done them. He
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0:46:46
personally marshaled the resources and it's hurting cats
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0:46:52
to get people to cooperate. But he personally back down the
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0:46:59
pandemic law in Denmark, he personally ended the lockdowns in
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0:47:03
Denmark, which was the first country to come out of lockdowns
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0:47:07
and then the whole thing collapsed after that. It is
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0:47:09
possible to do these things.
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0:47:14
Steven, sorry to interrupt, I wasn't even supposed to
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0:47:19
participate. But if it's okay with everyone, if I can have five
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0:47:23
minutes of everybody's time, I'd like to give my opinion if
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0:47:25
that's okay. If not, it's not a problem. Just keep listening.
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0:47:30
So Charles, I did say to Daniel, we spoke earlier that he could
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0:47:33
join in for a couple of questions. So
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0:47:37
can I have five minutes? I think I can add something.
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0:47:40
I've been waiting here patiently. I've been waiting
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0:47:43
patiently. I just want to know. There are four of us invited to
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0:47:47
speak here. And I really think if you want to listen to us,
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0:47:49
fine, I'll go if you don't want to listen to me.
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0:47:52
Gary, you go ahead. And Daniel, you're out.
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0:47:53
David wasn't
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everybody on this call is doing what Mads is requesting.
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0:48:01
Everybody on this call is working very hard to defeat the
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0:48:08
criminal cabal that runs this world, right? So don't get upset.
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0:48:12
Everybody's work I work 25 hours a day, seven days a week on that
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0:48:17
task. And so does Charles. So Mads, calm down. Calm your anger.
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0:48:21
We're all on your side. We're all working very hard against the
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0:48:27
cabal. I would just tell you that the people are slowly,
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0:48:31
slowly learning who the criminal cabal is very slowly.
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0:48:33
They are becoming exposed.
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0:48:37
And that's what we have to do is expose the criminal cabal.
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0:48:42
Now, people are just slowly learning what's happening.
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0:48:47
Three years ago, I never heard anyone talk about designers.
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0:48:51
I never heard anyone talk about the what happened to the Nazis
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0:48:56
after World War Two. I tried to get people to talk about all of
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0:48:58
those things. Nobody was interested.
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0:49:03
Okay, but now I'm hearing these conversations amongst people I'd
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0:49:07
never would have thought would have considered. My, you know, my
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0:49:10
relatives are asking me, Jerry, can you explain what's what's
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0:49:14
happening? Who is behind all of this? They are becoming exposed.
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0:49:20
We are starting to win. We're definitely winning. So we just
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0:49:23
have to keep working as individuals doing the best we
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0:49:28
can. And in isolating these people and changing their
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0:49:33
approach to running this planet. Now, I, if you have a look at my
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0:49:37
editorial in my finance newsletter this week, the first
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0:49:43
thing I start with this week is the story that occurred to the
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0:49:49
DeWitt brothers in 1672, where the people, Johan DeWitt was a
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0:49:53
very successful politician. He was running the Netherlands. They
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0:49:59
had a golden period. Everything was wonderful, economically, or
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0:50:04
so they say in the history books. But the people rose up. By the
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0:50:08
way, Johan DeWitt won three elections in a row. Okay, so he
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0:50:10
was a very successful politician, very successful
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0:50:14
Prime Minister. But the people, the people rose up, and they
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0:50:19
tore him apart and his brother apart, and they ate him. They
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0:50:26
were eaten in the streets. When the people come, be fearful. And
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0:50:29
in my editorial this week, I said this, I said, there is a
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0:50:32
lesson here today for all politicians of government,
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0:50:37
unelected bankers, and unelected officials in globalist NGOs,
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0:50:42
non government organizations who seek great power, always
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0:50:48
consider and respect the people, or else. The power is in the
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0:50:54
people. We are waking the people up. We are starting to win. We
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0:50:58
are starting to isolate and identify the criminal cabal. I
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0:51:02
appreciate your anger, but anger is not going to get us there.
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0:51:07
We've got to organize, we've got to know what we're doing. And all
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0:51:10
of us are becoming very aware of the task at hand. I don't think
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0:51:13
there's much doubt about that. So there is an awakening
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0:51:18
occurring. There is no doubt in my mind. Now, that we,
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0:51:23
nonetheless, if we finally isolate the criminal cabal, we
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0:51:26
will still have to have a financial system to run our
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0:51:31
economies. So it's, it's quite okay to have a discussion about
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0:51:34
that as well. On top of all this, if we can get through this
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0:51:38
stage, we could then have a talk about, well, what is the perfect
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0:51:43
economy and what is the perfect financial system. But everybody is
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0:51:45
on your side, Mads, nobody's fighting against you.
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0:51:50
All right. Thank you for that statement.
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0:51:55
Alex saying something. Sorry, David was saying something and
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0:51:59
then he got interrupted. I think he never finished. So I just
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0:52:02
go ahead, David.
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0:52:13
No, I think I had my say. I just before I came to this call, I was
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0:52:23
sensing, feeling that we, it's very important to realize that
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0:52:28
there's no place to hide from this. It's as simple as that.
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0:52:34
It's as simple as that. There's no place that that is the simple
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0:52:42
truth. So we, you, we can't, you know, it's not a matter of the
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0:52:47
things we do or don't do to protect ourselves. And this is
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0:52:54
Mads frustration is so many people are asleep, of course, but
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0:52:58
then even people that are waking up to what are happening, what's
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0:53:02
happening, I get these questions all the time. People saying, well,
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0:53:05
what should I do then? You know, how am I going to, what should I
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0:53:10
do with my IRA? You know, these, these questions like this, which
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0:53:18
is, oh my God, you know, come on, realize what we are facing. So it,
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0:53:26
and it really isn't for me to tell people specifically what to do.
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0:53:32
You know, you have to dig down deep to figure out what to do on a
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0:53:39
personal level, to get through this time to not despair. That's the
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0:53:44
big thing to not despair. You know, don't do things for financial
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0:53:50
reasons that are going to destroy your happiness, your family. You
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0:53:55
know, it's not about finances. You know, this we're dealing with
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0:54:06
something much bigger than that. So, so it's it, to me, it's about
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0:54:12
getting awareness. Look, we've all been there where we were the
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0:54:18
only person in the room that kind of understood what was happening,
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0:54:22
and there was no one we could talk to. And then you get to the point
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0:54:25
where there are two, there's somebody else you can talk to, but
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0:54:28
all the other people in the room don't get it. We have to get to
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0:54:31
the point where the majority of the people in the room understand.
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0:54:36
And this is what Jerry is saying, is we're starting to get to the
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0:54:41
point where the majority of the people in the room are understanding.
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0:54:49
But but now we have to push that up to the people at the top of the
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0:54:55
system, especially the support layer that is abetting everything
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0:55:00
that is happening. All this can just stop. I know it's hard to
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0:55:04
believe. It's hard to believe. But none of this, they're all
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0:55:09
constructs. None of it is real. The real world is beautiful. This
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0:55:14
is what Mads is saying. The real world is abundant. They are
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0:55:24
creating deprivation. And it is set to go off. They're orchestrating
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0:55:41
this banking crisis right now. But we mustn't go back to our
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0:55:48
particular personal. There's a balance here because you have to
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0:55:54
maintain yourself and take care of your family and your well-being.
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0:56:07
Of course. But we can't stop. We can't get overly distracted with
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0:56:12
that because ultimately there will be no place to hide. Even if
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0:56:16
you've done all the right things, there will be no place to hide
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0:56:21
from this. So we have to use the time we have while we have any
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0:56:30
freedom to break this awareness thing. Okay, I'm done.
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0:56:36
Steve, can I have five minutes or no? Because I got to go.
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0:56:40
Yeah, I think you can have it now as long as nobody else objects. I
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0:56:42
mean the guests, Daniel.
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0:56:47
I'll be very quick. Okay, for those who don't know, I come from
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0:56:50
the world of military counterintelligence. I'm a former
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0:56:54
colonel of military counterintelligence. So, the last
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0:56:59
24 years, I've dedicated a lot of my work to specifically the
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0:57:03
things that you guys are talking about. The key element here is
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0:57:09
the element of control. Control system, I guess, of the deep
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0:57:16
state. And the reality is that every system that we create is
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0:57:19
an opportunity for those with the greatest power to build more
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0:57:23
control into the system and more dependence on the system.
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0:57:27
And so the benefit of each system often comes to the price
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0:57:31
that relates to control. It's always about control. We have
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0:57:33
amazing smartphones, everybody has one of these things that
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0:57:38
gives access to immense amount of information, useful
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0:57:41
information, instant communication. But also it comes
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0:57:44
to the price, we have mind control, you have predatory
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0:57:47
capitalism, we have surveillance. So it's always a
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0:57:51
double-edged sword. And if you kind of look throughout history,
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0:57:55
control has been progressively reinvented and reinvented as
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0:57:58
response to the introduction of new technologies, we're going to
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0:58:02
go back to the Roman period. And so clearly today with the
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0:58:05
digital technology, decentralization, that has
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0:58:10
exploded over the past 20 to 30 years. And it's really has come
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0:58:12
to this point, if you look at where we're heading, it raises
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0:58:16
the question about the very existence of human civilization.
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0:58:19
There's that scene in Matrix, okay, where Morpheus says, the
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0:58:24
matrix is a system now. And the system is our enemy, but when
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0:58:28
you're inside, and you look around, what do you see? You see
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0:58:30
businessmen, you see teachers, you see lawyers, you see
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0:58:33
carpenters, the very minds of the people we're trying to say,
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0:58:37
but until we do these people are still part of that system. And
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0:58:42
that makes them our enemy. And so you have to understand that
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0:58:45
most of these people, they're not ready to be unplugged, so to
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0:58:47
speak. And many of them are so, you know, in you are so
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0:58:51
obviously dependent on the system, that they will do
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0:58:51
0:58:55
anything of their power to fight you against what's best for them
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0:59:00
to protect themselves from you, not from the system. And so the
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0:59:05
first step is to face the fact that we don't know, and we must
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0:59:10
know when the second step is to have the faith that enough of us
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0:59:15
people can work together as Matzah said, and as David said,
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0:59:17
to work together with this positive vision of human
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0:59:22
civilization, and also human future sufficient so that we can
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0:59:26
actually figure it out. And someone said, there's, you know,
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0:59:28
through three years ago, nobody talked about this. Well, a lot
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0:59:31
of people, you know, talking about this now right now, yes,
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0:59:35
still not enough. But if we can get enough smart people together
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0:59:40
to do this, we can indeed figure it out. And so the important
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0:59:43
thing that we need to know is that this governance system
815
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0:59:48
operates and controls by force. And force is the beginning at
816
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0:59:53
the end of how it controls forces the bedrock. Okay, it's
817
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0:59:58
not it's not software, it's a gun pointing at your head. And
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1:00:01
it's the ultimate enforcement mechanism, they kill people with
819
1:00:01
1:00:05
impunity, and the people who control do so because they can
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1:00:05
1:00:09
kill you with absolute impunity as they've killed the president
821
1:00:09
1:00:11
of the United States as I've killed Gaddafi, and they've
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1:00:15
killed whoever they can kill. That means that they can kill
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1:00:20
without regard for the law. Because there's absolutely no
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1:00:24
accountability under our laws in the Western world, and they
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1:00:28
kill as a result of that. And it's absolutely true that in a
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1:00:33
Western world force the brute force rarely shows its face,
827
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1:00:36
because it's always better and cheaper to use financial, legal,
828
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1:00:43
political system to control the people to do the dirty work. And
829
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1:00:46
of course, another key of control is this information,
830
1:00:46
1:00:49
fake news, fake science, fake history, fake everything.
831
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1:00:53
According to Donald Trump, the you know, World War Two was won
832
1:00:53
1:00:58
by the United States. And so there's this endless number of
833
1:00:58
1:01:02
visible and visible systems used to achieve control these days,
834
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1:01:06
and the effectiveness of all these systems. What does it
835
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1:01:10
depend on? On the ability to maintain physical force and
836
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1:01:14
control. I want to remind you of a quote from Samuel Hulting, he
837
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1:01:19
said, the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas
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1:01:22
and values or religion to which a few members of other
839
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1:01:26
civilization were converted by rather by the superiority in
840
1:01:26
1:01:31
applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this,
841
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1:01:37
non Westerners never do. And so if you kind of look at how the
842
1:01:37
1:01:40
governing system works, the establishment can and has
843
1:01:40
1:01:43
literally assassinated the presidents in broad daylight.
844
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1:01:48
When the establishment wants to go to war, but they can, you
845
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1:01:51
know, an engineer false flag operation, killing thousands of
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1:01:55
Americans beat 9-11 or, you know, the the Gulf of Tonkin is
847
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1:01:58
whatever the fuck it is, it doesn't really matter. And when
848
1:01:58
1:02:00
you want to establish gun control, well, you can go out
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1:02:05
and kill children in schools. I have all these kinds of wars,
850
1:02:05
1:02:11
wars on drugs, wars on whatever, on terror, war on COVID. But
851
1:02:11
1:02:14
again, remember, control always starts with hardware, not
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1:02:14
1:02:17
software. We've been talking about the world, we live in a
853
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1:02:20
world where everybody talks about computers and artificial
854
1:02:20
1:02:25
intelligence. It's not computers. It's grounded in the
855
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1:02:27
ability to kill and control physical world. And if you
856
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1:02:31
don't believe that, have a look at Goddafi. And of course, the
857
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1:02:34
global reserve currency, one of the greatest control mechanisms
858
1:02:34
1:02:37
ever created is controlled by the people who control the
859
1:02:37
1:02:40
physical flows of information, they control the physical flow
860
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1:02:45
of trade, analog, not digital. They control the ceiling, they
861
1:02:45
1:02:49
control the cables on the ocean's floor. They control the
862
1:02:49
1:02:53
satellites, they control the drones that fly above them. They
863
1:02:53
1:02:56
control the physical force and the means to produce the
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1:03:00
physical force necessary to protect and maintain these hard
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1:03:05
assets. Because this control gives them the ability to apply
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1:03:10
financial sanctions to countries that depend on access to what to
867
1:03:10
1:03:14
this flow of trade. And again, I repeat, it depends on physical
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1:03:18
force. But physical force is not an effective control mechanism,
869
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1:03:24
because it's very expensive. And it scares the living bejesus out
870
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1:03:28
of the herd, and it inspires vengeance, which is why the most
871
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1:03:35
effective and economic control system is mind control. And if
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1:03:39
you have your own mind, then you can navigate the road ahead. If
873
1:03:39
1:03:42
you don't control your own mind, you believe all the shit they
874
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1:03:44
tell you around you, the media, the business environment,
875
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1:03:46
political level.
876
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1:03:51
Daniel, can I ask you, can I ask you a question? Yeah, this is an
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1:03:57
idea I've been working with, that we have actually reached a
878
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1:04:03
major turning point in human history. I accept everything
879
1:04:03
1:04:09
you're saying. But is it possible that they have now
880
1:04:09
1:04:20
reached kind of an ultimate point, where by it's the sin of
881
1:04:20
1:04:25
hubris reaching a point where they were going for total control
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1:04:25
1:04:34
of all people globally, that this results in a collapse of their
883
1:04:34
1:04:40
power, because divide and rule no longer works. If you're going
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1:04:40
1:04:46
to injure all people, all the way to the top of the system,
885
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1:04:51
under this insane logic that they must control everyone
886
1:04:51
1:04:56
everywhere, divide and rule collapses for perhaps the first
887
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1:05:01
time. We know, we know people don't care if someone else is
888
1:05:01
1:05:05
having white phosphorus dubbed on them. You know, they, they
889
1:05:05
1:05:12
don't. It's very sad, but it's true. But if everyone is being
890
1:05:12
1:05:18
injured at the same time, and that awareness can be grown,
891
1:05:19
1:05:21
that we're at a turning point.
892
1:05:21
1:05:25
We're absolutely at a turning point, David. But there's first
893
1:05:25
1:05:27
of all, the problem for them right now for the elite is they
894
1:05:27
1:05:31
don't have the language to explain what's coming, you know,
895
1:05:31
1:05:33
around the bend. Language, I don't mean English or Spanish or
896
1:05:33
1:05:37
Russian, or Indian or Hindu. I mean, the language of the
897
1:05:37
1:05:40
economy, they don't have that they can't explain, because
898
1:05:40
1:05:42
what's happening right now is only happened twice in the
899
1:05:42
1:05:45
history of mankind. The first time between the fourth and the
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1:05:45
1:05:48
sixth century, when the old Roman Empire collapsed and
901
1:05:48
1:05:51
feudalism came about, and that thousand years later, between
902
1:05:51
1:05:56
the 16th and 17th centuries, when feudalism collapsed and
903
1:05:56
1:05:59
modern capitalism, which today is on its deathbed came around.
904
1:05:59
1:06:02
So they don't have the language for the first time in history to
905
1:06:02
1:06:06
explain something which is happening too fast for them to
906
1:06:06
1:06:11
respond to. And so we do have a role to play in this. But there
907
1:06:11
1:06:13
are several things we need to do speaking of solutions. One of
908
1:06:13
1:06:17
them is responsibility, which means that you are responsible
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1:06:17
1:06:21
for you and it all starts with you. And after responsibility
910
1:06:21
1:06:25
comes integrity. So once you take responsibility, you have
911
1:06:25
1:06:29
to be absolutely ruthless about who you're associated with. And
912
1:06:29
1:06:32
so in this kind of an environment, with increasing
913
1:06:32
1:06:35
lawlessness and increasing corruption globally, many things
914
1:06:35
1:06:38
are changing at once. So there's a lot of disruptions.
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1:06:39
1:06:43
So then you have to kind of associate to the extent possible
916
1:06:43
1:06:46
with people who have integrity. That means that they're both
917
1:06:46
1:06:50
competent and they're moral. And make sure you know, you
918
1:06:50
1:06:53
encourage your friends and associates to do the absolutely
919
1:06:53
1:06:57
the same thing, because it takes one incompetent or untrustworthy
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1:06:57
1:07:01
person to destroy, you know, the time and energy you've put into
921
1:07:01
1:07:06
building a community. And I'm always shocked. Okay, when
922
1:07:06
1:07:08
someone says that, you know, for example, they're still banking
923
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1:07:13
with HSBC, or Citibank or Coords Bank, there's a phrase, a crime
924
1:07:13
1:07:17
that pays is a crime that stays. Okay, you invest in companies
925
1:07:17
1:07:20
that sell goods that kill people, you're contributing to
926
1:07:20
1:07:23
their well being, which means they're working against you. And
927
1:07:23
1:07:27
they have no reason to change the model. So, for example,
928
1:07:27
1:07:30
speaking of the banking, you have all these wonderful banks,
929
1:07:30
1:07:34
hardworking, honest, local, which are investing in local
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1:07:34
1:07:37
economies, there's no reason to have, you know, your money in
931
1:07:37
1:07:42
big banks. Why do people think that you're having your money in
932
1:07:42
1:07:48
HSBC or Chase Bank bank is safe? You know, and the other thing,
933
1:07:48
1:07:50
again, if you look at the population, it's between the
934
1:07:50
1:07:54
people who are willing to deal with reality and want to make
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1:07:54
1:07:58
real changes, which is why I suppose this group is all about
936
1:07:58
1:08:02
and people who don't. And I think it's very important that
937
1:08:02
1:08:06
we focus time and associations on the people who are eager to
938
1:08:06
1:08:09
understand what's happening. And sometimes they may ask
939
1:08:09
1:08:12
impertinent questions, sometimes may take them a while to
940
1:08:12
1:08:15
actually figure things out in their own way doesn't matter.
941
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1:08:18
Okay, they've taken the first right step, they want to do
942
1:08:18
1:08:22
good, which is obviously the counter opposite of what these
943
1:08:22
1:08:26
people want to do. So the world is changing, obviously. And we
944
1:08:26
1:08:28
don't have the time to bring a lot of people who, you know, who
945
1:08:28
1:08:31
want to argue with you about stupid shit that has nothing to
946
1:08:31
1:08:34
do with the changes, who want to convince you that Prime Minister
947
1:08:34
1:08:37
Trudeau is a good guy, and he thinks of his Canadians because
948
1:08:37
1:08:42
before he goes to bed, let them be. We must focus our attention
949
1:08:42
1:08:46
because we have no time as much as possible on people who want to
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1:08:46
1:08:50
join what we're working towards. And then we have to enforce the
951
1:08:50
1:08:53
law. Because we're coming to this inflection point. And our
952
1:08:53
1:08:57
big problem is that, you know, we are financing these control
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1:08:57
1:09:01
systems. And if you finance people to control and destroy
954
1:09:01
1:09:03
you, well, then you know, they're going to destroy and
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1:09:03
1:09:06
control you. And that is the question, that is something the
956
1:09:06
1:09:09
reality you have to grapple with, you know, each of us in
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1:09:09
1:09:13
our own way. And we have to be as individual communities.
958
1:09:13
1:09:19
Okay, but we're back. I mean, we're back to talking about
959
1:09:19
1:09:26
small personal issues, which is, I mean, of course, it's
960
1:09:26
1:09:33
important that we don't despair and we have, we can get through
961
1:09:33
1:09:43
this. But the big issue is backing this down. And because
962
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1:09:48
ultimately, if it you know, the longer this runs, you know, the
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1:09:48
1:09:51
worse it's going to be for everybody and you and you can't
964
1:09:51
1:09:57
on a personal level deal with it. It we're, we're it is, it is a
965
1:09:57
1:10:08
matter of we can't shrink from figuring out how to how to
966
1:10:08
1:10:14
diffuse this on a big scale. There's no alternative. And I'm
967
1:10:14
1:10:18
going back to what you were just saying, they, the quote unquote,
968
1:10:18
1:10:23
they don't even have an idea of what is going to happen after
969
1:10:23
1:10:28
this. You can just see that they're struggling themselves.
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1:10:30
1:10:35
They they don't really have a clue of what is about to happen.
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1:10:43
And that that is kind of my big point is they have come to this
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1:10:48
point that none of us, including the people at the top of the
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1:10:48
1:10:55
system should should want to have this thing go off, because it
974
1:10:55
1:11:00
is going to be bad for everyone. And then cycling back to what
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1:11:00
1:11:05
Mads is saying, the real world is just fine. This is all being
976
1:11:05
1:11:09
made to happen. All the wars are being made to happen. We know
977
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1:11:12
what has just happened in Israel is being made to happen. What
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1:11:12
1:11:17
happened in Ukraine was being made to happen. The the banking
979
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1:11:21
failures that are about to happen are all being made to
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1:11:21
1:11:26
happen. And every everything would be fine. I have this image
981
1:11:26
1:11:31
of all the bumper cars on the you know, the amusement park, you
982
1:11:31
1:11:35
know, ride where you drive the cars around. And if the juice
983
1:11:35
1:11:39
stops, you know, to the cars, everybody just gets out of the
984
1:11:39
1:11:52
cars, you know, everything's fine. And it's, it's we we, we
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1:11:54
1:12:04
we need to help. We need to help even the people at the top of
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1:12:04
1:12:10
this system. I know Mads Mads is a fighter, you know, he's going
987
1:12:10
1:12:17
to take things on. And I respect that. And these focused actions
988
1:12:17
1:12:25
are very important. But ultimately, we have to just
989
1:12:25
1:12:30
expand this awareness that what is happening is, it's very
990
1:12:30
1:12:35
simple. It's a stupid idea that they're running. I know, I know
991
1:12:35
1:12:40
what you're saying that it's, it's, I mean, it's frightening
992
1:12:40
1:12:46
what you're saying about the use of violence. We see it, we're
993
1:12:47
1:12:53
and I think there is this layer of people in the structure.
994
1:12:54
1:12:58
They're killers, they're criminal. But those are not the
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1:12:58
1:13:03
people that are actually at the top of the system. They're
996
1:13:03
1:13:15
people that are in all of the military, intelligence, all the
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1:13:15
1:13:21
all the operations. And once the funding to them stops, it stops,
998
1:13:21
1:13:22
like the bumper cars.
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1:13:23
1:13:30
Yeah, so thank you, David. Sorry, so I can't decide. So Jerry, do
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1:13:33
you want to speak and Alex, I think and maybe Matt's again.
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1:13:34
1:13:39
Daniel, can we just get their comments of what you've said?
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1:13:40
1:13:40
Jerry first.
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1:13:47
Yeah, I'll tell you things. Look, it's not a secret. The
1004
1:13:48
1:13:53
criminal cabal are seeking to achieve two things, as David
1005
1:13:53
1:13:56
pretty much talked about number one, they're seeking to achieve
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1:13:56
1:14:00
immortality through transhumanist technology.
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1:14:01
1:14:04
They are seeking to enslave and control every other person on
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1:14:04
1:14:08
the planet. What's hard to understand about these two things,
1009
1:14:08
1:14:14
this is their aim. Right? Now, three years ago, let alone
1010
1:14:14
1:14:18
knowing what the aims of this group were, 99% of people didn't
1011
1:14:18
1:14:23
even know they existed. They're all starting to realize that they
1012
1:14:23
1:14:26
do exist, that there is an evil criminal cabal who's seeking to
1013
1:14:26
1:14:32
control them and seeking to seeking their own immortality and
1014
1:14:32
1:14:38
some sort of ruling or be the ruling class basis. Now, David is
1015
1:14:38
1:14:44
correct. It is a really dumb plan. Really stupid. I mean,
1016
1:14:44
1:14:48
number one, technology, we're nowhere near technology that can
1017
1:14:48
1:14:52
keep a human being alive. It's impossible. Right? It's an
1018
1:14:52
1:14:56
impossible dream. How stupid is that? And number two, why would
1019
1:14:56
1:15:01
you want to control all the people? How dumb is that? These
1020
1:15:01
1:15:05
people are idiots. They're complete idiots. And we have to
1021
1:15:05
1:15:10
make this plan to everybody on the planet, how stupid they are.
1022
1:15:11
1:15:16
And when we when that happens, people will start to demand
1023
1:15:16
1:15:21
their arrest. People will say, I want this man arrested, and
1024
1:15:21
1:15:24
they'll stand in front of the parliament and I'll demand it in
1025
1:15:24
1:15:29
their millions. And then he will be arrested and we all know who
1026
1:15:29
1:15:33
these men are, right? And no secret really. And that's when
1027
1:15:33
1:15:37
everything will start changing. But when it all changes, we'll
1028
1:15:37
1:15:40
still have to have a financial system to run our economy. So we
1029
1:15:40
1:15:43
could have a pleasant conversation about that as well,
1030
1:15:43
1:15:46
if we want to, or we can carry on with this political discourse.
1031
1:15:46
1:15:50
I don't mind either way. But the fact is, it's David is it
1032
1:15:50
1:15:54
correct? It's stupid. It's dumb. They're idiots. They're
1033
1:15:54
1:15:58
psychopaths. They only think about themselves and nobody
1034
1:15:58
1:16:01
else. And we have to eventually get to the point where millions
1035
1:16:01
1:16:05
of people are standing in front of their politicians saying, we
1036
1:16:05
1:16:11
want these men arrested and tried for their crimes. And if
1037
1:16:11
1:16:14
you don't, we'll come into that parliament and we will tear you
1038
1:16:14
1:16:22
apart and eat you like we did in 1672 in the Netherlands. We've
1039
1:16:22
1:16:25
got to get to that's where we've got to get to. We've got to get
1040
1:16:25
1:16:30
the people to demand change and it will come. We're getting
1041
1:16:31
1:16:34
there. We are actually winning. There's no doubt in my mind,
1042
1:16:34
1:16:38
we're winning. And we've just got to keep working hard every
1043
1:16:38
1:16:43
day. I work 25 hours a day, seven days a week, I have done
1044
1:16:43
1:16:48
three years, my, my pay scale is a very big round number. And I
1045
1:16:48
1:16:50
know that most people, many people on this call are the
1046
1:16:50
1:16:54
same. They're working tirelessly to achieve this. And we've got
1047
1:16:54
1:16:59
to just keep working. And I tell everybody this, just do what you
1048
1:16:59
1:17:03
can do as a person personally, and walk into the bathroom every
1049
1:17:03
1:17:07
morning and look in the mirror and find your leader is the
1050
1:17:07
1:17:11
leaders in the mirror, you have to live with yourself at the end
1051
1:17:11
1:17:14
of all of this. And you have to feel that you've morally
1052
1:17:14
1:17:19
satisfied your your responsibility to your families
1053
1:17:19
1:17:23
and people around you your nation. This is not an easy
1054
1:17:23
1:17:28
task. We're at the very beginning of this struggle. I
1055
1:17:28
1:17:32
say 10 to 30 years struggle. We're just scratching the
1056
1:17:32
1:17:37
surface, but we're starting to win. That's my excellent
1057
1:17:37
1:17:38
speech.
1058
1:17:38
1:17:41
Jerry, thank you. Alex, do you want to say something?
1059
1:17:42
1:17:46
I would I would I would like to go back to Charles's original
1060
1:17:46
1:17:51
question. And I will reassert my answer. So Charles, you sold
1061
1:17:51
1:17:57
your house, you got 200,000 bucks. You should buy some
1062
1:17:57
1:18:01
gold and silver. You should buy some farmland. And somebody
1063
1:18:01
1:18:05
mentioned in the chat something about guns. And then Daniel came
1064
1:18:05
1:18:10
in and Daniel reaffirmed and buy some guns. And now since we you
1065
1:18:10
1:18:13
know, since we're no longer talking about personal issues,
1066
1:18:13
1:18:17
but systemic issues, I will explain why this is still
1067
1:18:17
1:18:24
extremely important and valid. Because, you know, if everybody,
1068
1:18:25
1:18:29
every last person poured out into the street to protest and
1069
1:18:29
1:18:34
demand this and that change. Some of the changes will happen,
1070
1:18:34
1:18:39
but guess what people will get hungry and thirsty. If you have
1071
1:18:39
1:18:43
farmland, and you're raising your chickens, and maybe your
1072
1:18:43
1:18:46
neighbor is raising goats and making goat cheese, and that the
1073
1:18:46
1:18:50
other neighbor has potatoes and so on. If they froze everybody
1074
1:18:50
1:18:54
else's accounts, bank accounts, people will still be able to
1075
1:18:54
1:18:59
exchange food and favors. If people had some silver and gold,
1076
1:19:00
1:19:05
they would be able to spawn gray and black markets. Guess what?
1077
1:19:05
1:19:10
We just built a parallel system over which they have no control.
1078
1:19:11
1:19:16
Something about gray and black markets is extremely powerful.
1079
1:19:17
1:19:23
Because they evolve spontaneously as real true free
1080
1:19:23
1:19:29
markets. A they become very attractive for people buying
1081
1:19:29
1:19:32
stuff because they're cheap. Because you don't pay
1082
1:19:32
1:19:36
transaction taxes, you don't pay income taxes, you don't pay any
1083
1:19:36
1:19:40
kind of taxes. B they become extremely attractive to
1084
1:19:40
1:19:46
entrepreneurs. Because they get to make profits and don't pay
1085
1:19:46
1:19:52
taxes to the government. So you have created a system to ditch
1086
1:19:53
1:20:00
the system. If you look at Argentina, which used to be a
1087
1:20:00
1:20:06
military dictatorship, today 40% of Argentina's GDP is
1088
1:20:06
1:20:12
conducted on a black market. In Venezuela, it's more than 50% of
1089
1:20:12
1:20:16
the GDP. I think it's about 60% of the GDP is conducted on black
1090
1:20:16
1:20:21
markets. It is not because the governments like that. It's
1091
1:20:21
1:20:25
because they have no control over it. They cannot put that
1092
1:20:25
1:20:28
genie back into the bottle because it's too big. It's too
1093
1:20:28
1:20:32
important to the people. And if you talk to people who live in
1094
1:20:32
1:20:34
Argentina, you can buy everything and anything on the
1095
1:20:34
1:20:39
black market. So it solves people's existential problems
1096
1:20:39
1:20:47
and it disempowers the system. So you know, here in Croatia,
1097
1:20:47
1:20:52
we're losing food production, because the system is going
1098
1:20:52
1:20:59
around inventing these diseases and it kills people's pigs. They
1099
1:20:59
1:21:03
invented some African swine plague, and they've destroyed
1100
1:21:03
1:21:09
people's swine pig. So it's going to be really important
1101
1:21:09
1:21:13
for the people who can, who have the legal tender to convert
1102
1:21:13
1:21:19
that legal tender into farmland and gold and silver and guns to
1103
1:21:19
1:21:23
be able to create the parallel systems. We're not going to be
1104
1:21:23
1:21:26
able to change and reform the system that's in place. It's too
1105
1:21:26
1:21:30
ossified. It's too deeply entrenched. And it does use
1106
1:21:30
1:21:34
violence indiscriminately and without any scruple and without
1107
1:21:34
1:21:40
any control against us. Mads mentioned the success of the
1108
1:21:40
1:21:43
Icelanders with the demonstration to throw over
1109
1:21:44
1:21:47
through all the government of the bankers there. That was great.
1110
1:21:47
1:21:52
But then they fell right into the lockdowns. And now they're
1111
1:21:52
1:21:56
one of the most, most highly vaccinated populations in the
1112
1:21:56
1:22:02
world. So they, they, they solved one problem, and then they
1113
1:22:02
1:22:06
fell into the next one, because they didn't create a parallel
1114
1:22:06
1:22:12
system. So there, you know, on a personal level, you need, you
1115
1:22:12
1:22:15
need maneuvering space, and you need to have choices when your
1116
1:22:15
1:22:18
bank account is blocked, and there's no food in the
1117
1:22:18
1:22:22
supermarkets, unless you're compliant with everything. And
1118
1:22:22
1:22:26
B, when people have maneuvering space individually, then they
1119
1:22:26
1:22:32
can create parallel systems that completely disempower the, the,
1120
1:22:32
1:22:37
you know, the, the, the matrix that is that is oppressing us.
1121
1:22:38
1:22:40
That's, that's that done.
1122
1:22:41
1:22:46
Well said, Alex, thank you. Now. Now we've got some hands up. We're
1123
1:22:46
1:22:50
gonna have an hour and a half. Wonderful. And Matt's gonna come
1124
1:22:50
1:22:50
hang on, Steve.
1125
1:22:50
1:22:52
Charles, can we let Mads have a say?
1126
1:22:52
1:22:59
No, hang on. I'm saying I'm saying something. Yeah. Now. Now,
1127
1:23:00
1:23:03
the comment has been made by a number of people about person. I
1128
1:23:03
1:23:06
like what Daniel said about personal responsibility, what
1129
1:23:06
1:23:11
Alex said personal. And Jerry said, we're all doing stuff. And
1130
1:23:12
1:23:15
I remind you of what Buckminster Fuller said, that each one of us
1131
1:23:15
1:23:23
on this call, you have to do what you uniquely see needs to be
1132
1:23:23
1:23:27
done. That's what you have to do. As Jerry said, you look in the
1133
1:23:27
1:23:34
mirror, Mads is looking in the mirror, he's taken steps. And
1134
1:23:34
1:23:39
there are there are as a law as a former lawyer, now as a legal
1135
1:23:39
1:23:44
strategist, there are steps that we can take. And one thought I
1136
1:23:44
1:23:52
want to share with you all is this question of do you take a
1137
1:23:52
1:23:56
defensive mindset or an attacking mindset? And that's
1138
1:23:56
1:23:59
what this conversation is around, around the sale of a
1139
1:23:59
1:24:04
house or what you do with your current assets. And, and that is
1140
1:24:04
1:24:08
a deeply personal, was it Alex said, or anyway, it's deeply
1141
1:24:08
1:24:11
personal, if you've got $2 million, or if you've got a
1142
1:24:11
1:24:17
house, why wouldn't you fund action against the cabal? Why
1143
1:24:17
1:24:22
wouldn't you invest half your assets in a string of legal
1144
1:24:22
1:24:26
cases? Why wouldn't you do that? Because you I hear on this call
1145
1:24:26
1:24:29
people complaining and I complain about lawyers not doing
1146
1:24:29
1:24:32
anything because I'll only do it for money. Good. Well, if
1147
1:24:32
1:24:36
you've got money, get lawyers to do stuff. You say lawyers are
1148
1:24:36
1:24:40
a waste of time. If you want guns, buy guns, give guns to
1149
1:24:40
1:24:45
people. So, so do your own thinking as Daniel Estreland
1150
1:24:45
1:24:50
says, I say take responsibility, stop whinging that nothing's
1151
1:24:50
1:24:53
happening. Do something, create a movement as mads did, I think
1152
1:24:53
1:24:57
with the hitting of the tin of the pots, mads, you know,
1153
1:24:57
1:25:03
that's what the universe what God demands of each one of us.
1154
1:25:03
1:25:08
So mads comment and then we're going to go to questions soon.
1155
1:25:08
1:25:09
But I love the comments.
1156
1:25:10
1:25:15
Okay, a comment. Yeah, so I think, I think it was a lot of
1157
1:25:15
1:25:17
very, very good comments from everybody. So I really like the
1158
1:25:17
1:25:22
way that this meeting has turned out. I really enjoy that.
1159
1:25:22
1:25:25
And and what it was I want to say now I'm going to be like
1160
1:25:25
1:25:33
Stephen Frost. But but I had a comment. I'll come back with that
1161
1:25:33
1:25:35
when I come back to me. So let's just go to the questions. That's
1163
1:25:36
1:25:36
Excellent.
1164
1:25:38
1:25:41
Stephen, so should we go to questions? Stephen, you got a
1165
1:25:41
1:25:43
couple of questions. We've got an hour of questions. I think we
1166
1:25:43
1:25:46
get some great questions from people on this call. Stephen,
1167
1:25:46
1:25:48
you want to start with questions and then we'll
1168
1:25:49
1:25:53
let someone else speak. I haven't got any particular
1169
1:25:53
1:25:56
questions at the moment. So I was kind of listening to all
1170
1:25:56
1:26:02
these comments from these great minds and and as usual, I find
1171
1:26:02
1:26:06
myself agreeing with whoever's speaking and so but they're not
1172
1:26:06
1:26:08
saying the same things but actually they're getting closer.
1173
1:26:09
1:26:13
That's a great, very good line. Lou, let's go with you Lou,
1174
1:26:13
1:26:16
Mark and Jim and John and Glenn. We've got plenty of hands up.
1175
1:26:16
1:26:25
Let's go. You're on mute, Lou. Lou, you're on mute.
1176
1:26:28
1:26:32
Unmute. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, it's so good to hear me
1177
1:26:32
1:26:36
speaking now. I've got to tell you. Good comments from
1178
1:26:36
1:26:43
everybody. Yes. And and and and it's not either or existentialism
1179
1:26:43
1:26:47
was mentioned earlier. I studied Kierkegaard's works,
1180
1:26:47
1:26:51
either or and others and and consider myself a Christian
1181
1:26:51
1:26:58
existentialist if such a thing exists. And and so it's and and
1182
1:26:58
1:27:04
both. And and and and you know what we know that the the
1183
1:27:04
1:27:10
powers that be will will infiltrate and will subvert our
1184
1:27:10
1:27:13
efforts to change because while change is the one certainty,
1185
1:27:13
1:27:16
it's also the thing most difficult for us as individuals
1186
1:27:17
1:27:20
because we get in comfort zones. We've got our physiological
1187
1:27:20
1:27:22
needs met for food, clothing and shelter. We've got our
1188
1:27:22
1:27:26
psychological needs, especially with our with our wives and
1189
1:27:26
1:27:30
daughters and our sisters to feel safe and secure. And only
1190
1:27:30
1:27:34
then only then, you know, Bertolt Brecht said food first,
1191
1:27:34
1:27:38
then morals. So morals are related to our higher order
1192
1:27:38
1:27:42
needs that Abraham Maslow identified for us, belongingness
1193
1:27:42
1:27:46
needs as we're meeting here. Thanks to you and Stephen.
1194
1:27:46
1:27:50
Thank you so much again. And Tom Rodman as well. And then
1195
1:27:50
1:27:54
self actualization, like, you know, listening is more
1196
1:27:54
1:27:59
important than talking. And that's why I talk so I can really
1197
1:27:59
1:28:02
listen to myself now. I'm really feeling like I'm self actualizing
1198
1:28:02
1:28:03
right now. Thank you.
1199
1:28:05
1:28:06
Well said.
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1:28:06
1:28:08
Okay, I remember my short comment I wanted to say if I
1201
1:28:08
1:28:09
can, Charles.
1202
1:28:10
1:28:11
Yep, yeah, man.
1203
1:28:13
1:28:16
No, I just wanted to say that these last eight years where I've
1204
1:28:16
1:28:19
been fighting literally on the streets and with videos and
1205
1:28:19
1:28:22
the newsletters and notices of liabilities and talking to
1206
1:28:22
1:28:25
people making conferences and everything. There's one thing
1207
1:28:25
1:28:28
that I want to say that is a little bit counterintuitive. And
1208
1:28:28
1:28:32
that is the people in the system are really, really good.
1209
1:28:33
1:28:37
Surprisingly, in Denmark, the police meet me with a big smile,
1210
1:28:38
1:28:41
a lot of help, very helpfulness. And when I make a demonstration
1211
1:28:41
1:28:44
in front of the health authorities, they come out and
1212
1:28:44
1:28:50
talk to me. And and and yes, we meet, you know, in your face, I
1213
1:28:50
1:28:52
mean, I'm saying that they are doing something wrong and they
1214
1:28:52
1:28:56
come on, they show we are it's a confrontation, we then work on
1215
1:28:56
1:28:58
them, we send them emails with a lot of information and they,
1216
1:28:58
1:29:04
they actually listen. I will say the following statement. People
1217
1:29:04
1:29:07
in the system, they are good people, they want to do the
1218
1:29:07
1:29:11
right thing. So it works to demonstrate it works to write
1219
1:29:11
1:29:14
notices of liabilities, it works to write letters to them, they
1220
1:29:14
1:29:19
listen to us. And I can say from personal experience, what I also
1221
1:29:19
1:29:23
can say to my big surprise is just because someone goes into a
1222
1:29:23
1:29:26
group of freedom fighters, and for a couple of weeks says the
1223
1:29:26
1:29:29
right things, does not mean they're not a saboteur who wants
1224
1:29:29
1:29:33
to destroy you and the group. Now that I also have a lot of
1225
1:29:33
1:29:39
experience in. If I can say 99% of what people have been
1226
1:29:39
1:29:42
fighting against me has been people in either infiltrating my
1227
1:29:42
1:29:46
own groups I have started and parties or other freedom groups.
1228
1:29:46
1:29:50
And I would say not I don't want to say a lot of help from people
1229
1:29:50
1:29:53
in the system. And that is counterintuitive. But that
1230
1:29:53
1:29:56
proves that it that that that they are fighting us and they
1231
1:29:56
1:30:00
have big pockets, they fight us with deception, and with
1232
1:30:00
1:30:03
infiltration. They've done this for hundreds of years, hundreds
1233
1:30:03
1:30:08
of years. And it also proves that that the evil bastards,
1234
1:30:08
1:30:11
everything is compartmentalized, people don't know people in the
1235
1:30:11
1:30:13
system don't know that the vaccines are supposed to kill a
1236
1:30:13
1:30:15
lot of people, they don't know about it. They honestly believe
1237
1:30:15
1:30:18
that they're doing the right thing. And this is something
1238
1:30:18
1:30:21
that that is my experience, which I did not expect I will
1239
1:30:21
1:30:24
sit and say here eight years later. Thank you.
1240
1:30:25
1:30:28
Thank you, meds. Thank you. Lou Mark Steele.
1241
1:30:30
1:30:34
Fantastic to see the passion. Really good. One of the best
1242
1:30:35
1:30:38
talks we've had open now I like to see people getting a bit
1243
1:30:38
1:30:44
excited. It was a very good lot of very good information being
1244
1:30:44
1:30:49
put out. What I want is what I'd like to say is obviously this
1245
1:30:49
1:30:54
what we can identify is the 5G warfare plan. This was a plan
1246
1:30:54
1:30:58
that they had to exterminate the large proportion of the
1247
1:30:58
1:31:01
population, not only just exterminated, but take that
1248
1:31:01
1:31:05
property. We're in the middle of it, we are far too early. We're
1249
1:31:05
1:31:07
far too early for their plan. And there's lots of people are
1250
1:31:07
1:31:12
going to die. A lot of people have taken the the biochemical
1251
1:31:12
1:31:15
weapon and I call it a vaccine. And it is interconnected with
1252
1:31:15
1:31:19
the 5G network for the extermination using the atomic
1253
1:31:19
1:31:25
seizure. So most of the people in the system who have taken the
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1:31:30
shot, if given the correct information, I can tell you now
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1:31:34
why they would want to carry on with it is going to be a serious
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1:31:34
1:31:40
problem for them. A solution to the issues that we face, I
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1:31:40
1:31:44
believe, are number one, getting large numbers of people in an
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1:31:44
1:31:51
area to access land, but to secure the asset of the land by
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1:31:51
1:31:54
having large numbers of people who can basically defend it
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1:31:54
1:31:58
because food and water is the most important thing in these
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1:31:58
1:32:03
times. Secondly, security of that asset, and you can only do
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1:32:03
1:32:07
that with bodies with people and people who are going to be want
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1:32:07
1:32:10
to do something if things get out of hand, which I've got no
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1:32:16
doubt. What's happening with the migration? Some of these young
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1:32:20
migrants being trained now by certain military bases in the
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1:32:24
UK. It's probably a very similar model going on around the rest
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1:32:28
of Europe. We're going to see some interesting things going
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1:32:31
forward, but I think we're far too early. The information of
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1:32:31
1:32:35
CART is truly out of the bag. The globalist are planning a
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1:32:35
1:32:39
mass extermination. You can see a lot of the narrative is starting
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1:32:39
1:32:42
to wobble. And I think what we'll have to do is we'll have
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1:32:47
to push harder. One of the things I'm pretty positive about
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1:32:48
1:32:52
from a weapons perspective, offence is always best form of
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1:32:52
1:32:56
defence. In the military terms, it's exactly the same. You don't
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1:32:56
1:32:58
want to be in a defensive position when you've got the
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1:32:58
1:33:01
potential to go on the offensive. And we absolutely have
1277
1:33:01
1:33:05
that, whether it be legal tactics, whether it be getting
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1:33:08
people together. There's lots of things that can be done
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1:33:13
offensively in relation to this. I mean, I've been advising
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1:33:13
1:33:15
people who, a lot of the lads who've been chopping down the
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1:33:15
1:33:19
ULS cameras in London, there's quite a few of them across the
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1:33:19
1:33:23
UK are starting to be chopped down. Anybody who gets arrested
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1:33:23
1:33:25
for that, I can show that that's not a camera, it's a
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1:33:25
1:33:30
multi-photon ionised radiation weapon, radar gun. Consequently,
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1:33:30
1:33:33
they have defence in law, because that's part of a weapon
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1:33:33
1:33:37
system. It's part of a digital city prison that they're planning
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1:33:37
1:33:43
an extermination. So all of that sort of information given to
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1:33:43
1:33:48
these guys. So if they then get arrested for what the police
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1:33:48
1:33:51
would say is criminal damage, they actually have a defence to
1290
1:33:51
1:33:55
that. Because obviously, it's part of a weapons programme, you
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1:33:55
1:33:59
have a defence in any state across the world, you have a
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1:33:59
1:34:04
self-defence, and you have a defence to criminal damage. If
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1:34:04
1:34:08
you believe that that equipment is there to cause significant
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1:34:09
1:34:13
property or bodily harm. And that's what so that's you know,
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1:34:13
1:34:15
that there's all these things that we can really start to put
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1:34:18
the pressure on because the cat's totally out the bag now.
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1:34:18
1:34:22
The plans there, we saw what happened with the COVID-19 thing,
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1:34:24
who will things are coming back?
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1:34:26
That's commentary. Let's get some comments from our speakers.
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1:34:29
Excellent. Well, well put. Self-defence, everybody. It's a
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1:34:33
great, it's a great line. And one of the issues that I meant to
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1:34:33
1:34:37
raise that Mark talks about with communities is in Australia,
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1:34:37
1:34:41
there's a big unitization of farmland, Alex, where
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1:34:41
1:34:43
communities are coming together. And there's a structure being
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1:34:50
created where up to 70, 80 people are buying one 70th of a
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1:34:50
1:34:53
farm that then gives them the right to come on to that farm.
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1:34:57
It's a very interesting structure. I'll get the details
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1:35:01
of it's also happening with I think in the UK. And it's it's
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1:35:03
part of that strategy. So any further comments on what Mark
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1:35:13
said? Alex, Mads, anybody? So in terms of the David, Gary,
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1:35:18
makes sense. Good. All right, Mark, thank you. Thank you for
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1:35:22
that. And, and the the help that you're giving to that community,
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1:35:28
Mark and the 5G. I love you've mentioned it before. And, and the
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1:35:31
other issue that one of our speakers, I can't remember who
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1:35:31
1:35:36
it was, Stephen said, be willing to suffer. If we you know, the
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1:35:36
1:35:39
enormity of what we're dealing with, if you're scared of
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1:35:39
1:35:43
suffering, you won't do what needs to be done. And so making
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1:35:43
1:35:47
that conscious decision, I am willing to suffer. And then what
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1:35:50
Mads said about the people in Denmark during World War Two is
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1:35:50
1:35:53
that I don't want to suffer. So I'm going to collaborate with
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1:35:57
the Germans. That's the choice that we each have. Are you
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1:35:58
willing to suffer? All right, Jim?
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1:36:08
Hey, thanks very much. Great talk and very insightful. I put
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1:36:13
some things in the chat. You've heard me talk before about the
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1:36:22
background of, of the CEO of Pfizer Albert Borla, as, as his
1326
1:36:22
1:36:29
specialty is, is vaccinating pigs and castrating that with
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1:36:33
vaccine vaccination, utilizing a series of two shots. That's,
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1:36:39
that is the specialty of Albert Borla castration of pigs with
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1:36:44
vaccinations. And now he's the CEO of Pfizer, the, the head of
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1:36:54
Moderna. Stephen Banshell, he is a biotechnologist. And his
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1:36:54
1:37:02
specialty is, is connecting biotechnology with, with
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1:37:02
1:37:07
treatments. Taking these two together, in conjunction with
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1:37:11
what you have all been discussing, the inevitability of
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1:37:16
the inevitability of Israel and Six Eyes, and I'll take it as
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1:37:16
1:37:23
Six Eyes networks being involved in this issue. And exactly how,
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1:37:28
and what the intelligence networks know, I put in the chat,
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1:37:28
1:37:33
the CIA's paper on the difference in Ashkenazi versus
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1:37:33
1:37:38
the biblical Hebrews. And that's a, that is a paper from the CIA
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1:37:39
1:37:45
in some, some years ago. So the intelligence agencies know this,
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1:37:46
1:37:51
genetic differences, and Benjamin Netanyahu may be
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1:37:51
1:37:56
capitalizing on this. So naming who they are, who these people
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1:38:00
are, is, we need to also talk about Anthony Blinken, who may
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1:38:03
be, who is from the United States starting all these wars,
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1:38:08
and his stepfather, Samuel Pissar, who was the, who was the
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1:38:13
attorney for Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, a
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1:38:13
1:38:17
British super spy, who ran all the medical journals through
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1:38:17
1:38:22
Pergamon Press, including a formerly Butterworth Springer.
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1:38:24
1:38:28
That brings us to finance. Everybody's talked about finance.
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1:38:33
How do we, in terms of finance, how do we stop the financing if
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1:38:33
1:38:36
it's being done through the medical industrial complex? In
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1:38:36
1:38:40
the United States, we have this thing called the Inflation
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1:38:40
1:38:43
Reduction Act, that is going to pay people to take medications
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1:38:43
1:38:51
for on label use. How do we, and we know that the GPOs, the group
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1:38:53
purchasing organizations, this gets a little technical, the
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1:38:58
group purchasing organizations, like, like, like, like, like,
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1:38:58
1:39:04
Cardinal Help, McKesson, Amerisource, Bergen, Vizient,
1357
1:39:06
1:39:09
Premier, make billions of dollars. And when we asked Zeke
1358
1:39:09
1:39:13
Emanuel why, he said, Senatorial and congressional campaigns are
1359
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1:39:15
expensive, both at a federal and state level, they cost billions
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1:39:19
of dollars. And these PBMs and GPO group purchasing
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1:39:19
1:39:22
organizations make billions and contribute to their campaigns.
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1:39:25
And very recently, we found that these GPOs are sending their
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1:39:31
money to Switzerland. So we know how they're financing the, the
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1:39:32
1:39:38
elections, the fraud through medication prices. And that's
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1:39:42
just one way. The other way is through Sam Bankman Fried, FTX.
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1:39:47
So we know how to how it's being done. How do we stop these? How
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1:39:51
do we stop the financing through healthcare? And the mandating
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1:39:52
1:39:57
payments for FDA approved medications? Is that I don't know
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1:40:01
if that's if anybody has a response to that in terms of what
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1:40:06
we were talking about, and, and how to get rid of and what the
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1:40:11
next step is, if healthcare is going to be so expensive for the
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1:40:16
people who refuse to take the FDA approved medication? And
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1:40:18
relating that to inflation.
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1:40:20
All right, comments on Jim's thoughts.
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1:40:30
I'll just say a few things about what Jim's always talking about,
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1:40:33
which is the so called intelligence organizations, I
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1:40:35
prefer to call them lack of intelligence organizations.
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1:40:36
1:40:40
They're part of the really dumb, stupid plan. Very much a big
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1:40:44
part of it. They have been controlled for a very long time.
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1:40:50
In the Western world. And they are funded with many billions of
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1:40:55
dollars. The US total funding for intelligence organizations
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1:40:59
is of the order of $100 billion a year. And it's totally
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1:41:02
unaccountable. We have no idea where they're spending this
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1:41:06
money. And it's the same in Israel, it's the same in
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1:41:08
Germany, it's the same in Australia, it's the same in
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1:41:12
Canada. There's billions upon billions of dollars in the
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1:41:16
world. There's billions upon billions upon billions of
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1:41:19
dollars every year and over 10 years that is multiplied by 10.
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1:41:23
And there's no accountability. We have no idea where they're
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1:41:23
1:41:30
spending this money. So we need to actually start to demand that
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1:41:34
they explain what they're doing. Because at the moment, 99% of
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1:41:34
1:41:38
the population doesn't even know that the intelligence or so
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1:41:38
1:41:44
of intelligence world exists. And 99% of the people don't know
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1:41:44
1:41:47
what covert warfare is.
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1:41:56
Does anybody know a guy named Victor Ostrowski, particularly
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1:41:56
1:41:59
Daniel, who was talking about and can you relate to Victor
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1:41:59
1:42:05
Ostrowski and unit 8200, unit 9900 and their involvement in
1398
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1:42:10
these or unit 90, unit 8200 graduate division, and their
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1:42:10
1:42:14
involvement in this scheme to take down the world?
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1:42:25
No, no answer, Jim. All right. Any no other comments? We'll go
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1:42:31
to John Bodwin from Massachusetts. Just by the by
1402
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1:42:35
what Alex said, I think Mads said, what one of you said that
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1:42:39
these guys who are the psychopaths trying to wipe us out
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1:42:40
1:42:44
at the top. However, the middle managers, I think was you mads,
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1:42:48
the people at the middle level with again, I mentioned the
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1:42:52
Purdue farmer and the sackler family and Massachusetts
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1:42:52
1:43:00
featured in that the sackler family diluted itself and said,
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1:43:00
1:43:03
what we're doing is good. Once you make that decision, the
1409
1:43:03
1:43:09
wiping out humanity is good. It justifies anything. And you
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1:43:09
1:43:14
know, it was a salutary reminder that your basic foundational
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1:43:14
1:43:18
belief system that enables anything to happen. So again, I
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1:43:18
1:43:22
urge you to look at that book Empire of pain for a deep, deep
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1:43:22
1:43:26
understanding if you have time of the issues that we're
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1:43:26
1:43:29
dealing with the psychology of these middle manager levels in
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1:43:29
1:43:33
these big organizations and in the intelligence communities.
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1:43:41
Hello, it's been a while. Um, let's see. I appreciate the
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1:43:41
1:43:44
conversation today. It was good to be a fly on the wall and
1419
1:43:44
1:43:47
listen to you guys talk. I missed the first 20 minutes or
1420
1:43:47
1:43:53
so I apologize for future conversations like it. Talking
1421
1:43:53
1:43:57
is good and people have to air air their grievances and the
1422
1:43:57
1:44:01
knowledge that they have. So that people know that like the
1423
1:44:01
1:44:05
next steps to take. Well, as far as the next steps I might
1424
1:44:05
1:44:09
instead of ask a question offer that if you put a structure
1425
1:44:09
1:44:12
around what you're trying to get out of a meeting such as this,
1426
1:44:14
1:44:18
not this meeting, but after this meeting, you know, clear, clear
1427
1:44:18
1:44:24
objectives, strategy tactics, so forth. We need people that can
1428
1:44:24
1:44:28
organize logistics such as that and put backroom strategies
1429
1:44:28
1:44:31
together because all these numbskulls out there who don't
1430
1:44:31
1:44:35
know what's going on, they don't know what they don't know. And
1431
1:44:35
1:44:37
if we're sitting here saying, well, we know what they don't
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1:44:37
1:44:42
know. We sort of have a responsibility first to ourselves
1433
1:44:42
1:44:46
and our families. But after that, to the other people that
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1:44:46
1:44:49
when the shit hits the fan, they're going to be looking for
1435
1:44:49
1:44:52
advice. And if you're not organized in a way to give them
1436
1:44:54
1:44:58
succinct pertinent information for them to save themselves,
1437
1:44:59
1:45:04
first secure food and water. If the government's trying to screw
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1:45:04
1:45:07
with your food and water. In the United States, we now have to
1439
1:45:07
1:45:12
worry in probably some European nations about there's gonna be
1440
1:45:12
1:45:16
10 million fighting age men across the border by the time
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1:45:16
1:45:19
Biden's done 10 million. Think about the size of your
1442
1:45:19
1:45:23
countries. 10 million fighting age men. I'm not counting the
1443
1:45:23
1:45:27
women and kids that are crossing. That's an invasion.
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1:45:27
1:45:32
And our water supplies food, stay out of the cities. It's all
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1:45:32
1:45:37
coming. And there's no stopping it. It's done. And the people
1446
1:45:37
1:45:39
who don't understand what's going on are going to be
1447
1:45:39
1:45:42
scratching their heads saying, gee, how did this happen? We
1448
1:45:42
1:45:46
know how it happened. They voted for it. They demanded it. They
1449
1:45:46
1:45:49
wanted it because they were propagandized into it. So I
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1:45:49
1:45:52
agree with everything you're saying, you know, Mads, David,
1451
1:45:53
1:45:57
the other guys. But putting together local communities, or
1452
1:45:57
1:46:00
at least teaching people how to put together local communities,
1453
1:46:00
1:46:04
getting to know your local police officers, befriending
1454
1:46:04
1:46:08
their wives and families and kids, because they'll be less
1455
1:46:08
1:46:14
apt to bludgeon you. If you get to know their families, become
1456
1:46:14
1:46:17
bring them into your community. Otherwise, they become a tool
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1:46:17
1:46:20
of the government. And there's no police in the world in the
1458
1:46:20
1:46:24
history of man that hasn't been loyal to a paycheck over an
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1:46:24
1:46:27
oath. The oath means nothing. Their loyalty is to their
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1:46:27
1:46:31
paycheck. So anyway, I just thought I'd offer that putting a
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1:46:31
1:46:34
structure around, you know, where you where you want to go
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1:46:34
1:46:37
with a lot of the thoughts. I know people are angry here, I
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1:46:37
1:46:41
could I could hear it in their voices. The way I look at it,
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1:46:45
this is the nature of man. We were lucky to have grown up in
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1:46:48
the last 50 years where there was nothing like this. I will
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1:46:48
1:46:51
you can go back through all the wars in history in the various
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1:46:55
locations. In the United States, we had the Civil War. And then I
1468
1:46:55
1:46:57
was a 30 years later, there was a Spanish American war, which
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1:46:57
1:47:01
was kind of a joke. We needed to go to war and prove that we're a
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1:47:01
1:47:03
big country. Now you guys got to take us seriously in the world.
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1:47:07
And then 20 years after that's World War One, and then another
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1:47:11
25 years World War Two. And they're really, you know, Korea,
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1:47:11
1:47:15
Vietnam, whatever. But for the last 50 years, there's been
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1:47:15
1:47:18
generations of Americans that don't know what it's like at all.
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1:47:19
1:47:23
I mean, Afghanistan stuff, we send some volunteers, people
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1:47:23
1:47:27
don't realize this is the nature of man, for people to usurp power
1477
1:47:28
1:47:32
to use it against others, to propagandize to get people to
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1:47:32
1:47:35
divide people into factions, have them fight your wars for
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1:47:35
1:47:39
you. This is the way it's always going to be. So be ready to
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1:47:39
1:47:42
educate people, put a wrapper around it, put some structure to
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1:47:42
1:47:45
it. And now that that's what I'm doing. That's what I intend to
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1:47:45
1:47:48
do. Thanks. Thanks for listening. Sorry, I don't have a
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1:47:48
question.
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1:47:52
Thank you. Thank you, john. Very good. And it reminds me that in
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1:47:56
Australia, john, someone has done just that one man is called
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1:48:03
has done some good. We'll get here from getting a moment. But
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1:48:10
basic principles for running, but they're not controlled from
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1:48:14
head office. And it's wonderful to see and they meet weekly,
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1:48:14
1:48:18
these My Place organizations to do precisely what you're saying.
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1:48:18
1:48:22
So it's grown like a mushroom is very inspiring. Glenn.
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1:48:24
1:48:31
I have a lot of interesting discussions, a lot of insight. I
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1:48:31
1:48:36
like to address some things around where people focus their
1495
1:48:36
1:48:41
attention and where they may be miss poking some attention. For
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1:48:41
1:48:47
both john and Alex, I would say dead on 100% you've got to first
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1:48:47
1:48:51
save yourself and save your family in your community. So
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1:48:54
working locally, recognizing the kind of things that may be
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1:48:59
coming at us, the kind of suddenly, standard services
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1:48:59
1:49:02
aren't available. And how do you get them? And how do you survive
1501
1:49:02
1:49:06
the next week of eating and staying warm enough to survive?
1502
1:49:06
1:49:11
You got to you got to have those plans to get through the period.
1503
1:49:11
1:49:15
Now the other part of it is, okay, how do we do battle? And
1504
1:49:15
1:49:18
how do we take out the corruption? And how do we get at
1505
1:49:18
1:49:24
that central part of the cabal that everyone identifies? And to
1506
1:49:24
1:49:28
that I, I have to say two, two different, several different
1507
1:49:28
1:49:30
things. One is the first thing is being careful not to be
1508
1:49:30
1:49:34
distracted, that there are so many players, so many things out
1509
1:49:34
1:49:37
there that are just out there to distract us. It's part of a
1510
1:49:37
1:49:42
standard tool of confusion, known as as the Marxist handbook.
1511
1:49:42
1:49:46
And, and people really need to have that as being a filter right
1512
1:49:46
1:49:50
up front, figure out when you're just being told a long line of
1513
1:49:50
1:49:53
gibberish, that's just consuming time and not actually getting to
1514
1:49:53
1:49:59
any core element. Now, this brings us to sort of where where
1515
1:49:59
1:50:05
where are the areas of focus? And everyone talks about, well,
1516
1:50:05
1:50:09
certainly you want to know who's in control. And yes, the center
1517
1:50:09
1:50:12
piece of that control is certainly the the most guilty.
1518
1:50:12
1:50:16
But I think there's a range of different areas that people in
1519
1:50:16
1:50:19
general, have a tendency to align with as an area of focus.
1520
1:50:19
1:50:24
And it's in fact, a failed center of focus, because it will
1521
1:50:24
1:50:26
identify some people that are part of the system and
1522
1:50:26
1:50:30
contributing and complicit, but it's not even close to getting
1523
1:50:30
1:50:33
at those that are in full control and at the top of the
1524
1:50:33
1:50:35
heap in the cabal. And so I'm going to give you five different
1525
1:50:35
1:50:40
areas. Any any focus on a religion as being center of the
1526
1:50:40
1:50:45
core criminal cabal is I think a failed approach. Anyone that
1527
1:50:45
1:50:49
focuses on a a military or a set of militaries as being the center
1528
1:50:49
1:50:54
of the core criminal cabal is is is going down a bad path.
1529
1:50:55
1:50:57
Again, you're not going to find the top of the heat that the true
1530
1:50:57
1:51:01
control players the true money. Anyone that focus on just the
1531
1:51:01
1:51:05
medical leadership as being the center of the core of the criminal
1532
1:51:05
1:51:09
cabal is is is also false. Yes, they're agents and they're
1533
1:51:09
1:51:12
complicit, but they're not they're not in control. Anyone
1534
1:51:12
1:51:17
that looks at the Intel groups or either any individual Intel
1535
1:51:17
1:51:22
players or or any of the mix of Intel? Yes, they're contributors.
1536
1:51:22
1:51:26
They're, there's, you know, they're, they're often immoral
1537
1:51:26
1:51:30
and dangerous to what's going on, but they are not the core of
1538
1:51:30
1:51:34
the problem or the top of the cabal. And then as a last sort of
1539
1:51:34
1:51:39
group, that's a failed area is the focus on people that any
1540
1:51:39
1:51:42
particular technology type, we're certainly seeing a lot of
1541
1:51:42
1:51:46
things going on now around advanced technologies and AI.
1542
1:51:46
1:51:51
And I do I have a major background in computer science
1543
1:51:51
1:51:57
and AI is a very difficult space to be in and can be used against
1544
1:51:57
1:52:01
all of us. But again, it's not the top of the heap. So I'm
1545
1:52:01
1:52:03
going to say where is the top of the heap? I'm not going to be
1546
1:52:03
1:52:06
naming names here, but I'm going to say how do you distinguish
1547
1:52:06
1:52:13
them? You distinguish them by following the money. Everybody
1548
1:52:13
1:52:16
talks about the billionaires being out there, but being a
1549
1:52:16
1:52:21
billionaire of one or two or five or 10 billion is not is a
1550
1:52:21
1:52:28
small change. Every so everyone strives to be a billionaire. No
1551
1:52:28
1:52:31
one wants to claim they're a trillionaire, but they are out
1552
1:52:31
1:52:36
there. That's who's at the core of this cabal, who's at the core
1553
1:52:36
1:52:41
of the control, and who has been doing it for decades. It's the
1554
1:52:41
1:52:46
trillionaires, follow the money, figure out who the trillionaires
1555
1:52:46
1:52:50
and you know exactly who the guilty are. Thank you for your
1557
1:52:51
1:52:54
Thank you. Thank you, Glenn. That's an interesting, interesting
1558
1:52:54
1:52:57
concept. Mads, well, who's the wealthiest person published or
1559
1:52:57
1:53:01
any of you at the current moment to take Glenn's point before we
1560
1:53:01
1:53:08
go to Jeremy? Is it 300 billion published as the wealthiest, you
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1:53:08
1:53:09
know, whoever it is?
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1:53:11
1:53:14
No, that there are trillionaires out there, of course, there is.
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1:53:14
1:53:19
I'll tell you an anecdote as well. Someone told me that with
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1:53:19
1:53:24
intelligence background, he so when you produce a banknote,
1565
1:53:25
1:53:30
and then the concept is that maybe if it's torn, you go into
1566
1:53:30
1:53:33
the bank, the bank sent it to the national bank, and then they
1567
1:53:33
1:53:37
know exactly how many banks, how many banknotes are out there.
1568
1:53:37
1:53:41
Then the idea about when they now create money in the banks,
1569
1:53:41
1:53:46
when they make out a loan. So let's say someone makes takes a
1570
1:53:46
1:53:50
loan of $1 million. That's new money that has just been made for
1571
1:53:50
1:53:56
that purpose. $1 million. So the story is that we have been told
1572
1:53:56
1:54:01
all of us is that that money when that person then pays that
1573
1:54:01
1:54:05
money back, then the money supply should in theory go down
1574
1:54:05
1:54:13
with $1 million, right? But what if what if it doesn't? What if
1575
1:54:13
1:54:20
every time the bank makes makes $1 million or million euro? Why
1576
1:54:20
1:54:27
would they why would they why would they minimize the money
1577
1:54:27
1:54:31
money supply with that? So anyway, so this guy who has
1578
1:54:31
1:54:35
connections to a very large European internet, sorry, secret
1579
1:54:35
1:54:40
agency, I don't want to say which one he he said that all the
1580
1:54:40
1:54:44
euros and all the dollars that have ever been produced are still
1581
1:54:44
1:54:47
out there. And that means that the reason we don't feel it is
1582
1:54:47
1:54:52
because if they are in a bank account in Panama, with an awful
1583
1:54:52
1:54:55
lot of zeros behind it, you don't feel it. If it's not
1584
1:54:55
1:55:01
released into the into the real economy. But it's there. I agree
1585
1:55:01
1:55:04
with what Glenn said about following money. I think we
1586
1:55:04
1:55:08
should find out what is the actual size of the money supply.
1587
1:55:08
1:55:13
Let's start there. That would be interesting to find out. And
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1:55:13
1:55:18
there was also and I think it was English guy on a Swedish
1589
1:55:18
1:55:26
university who made he made a 200 page essay on sorry, when he
1590
1:55:26
1:55:29
got what he became a professor where he also proved this in
1591
1:55:29
1:55:35
this document. And I sent it to a few people and we haven't
1592
1:55:35
1:55:37
nobody has ever is talking about it. But I think that could be
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1:55:37
1:55:40
something that could be interesting to look into. And
1594
1:55:40
1:55:43
and we have we have historical precedent precedent. I mean, one
1595
1:55:43
1:55:46
of the best was at Professor Anthony Sutton from Stanford who
1596
1:55:46
1:55:50
proved who financed the Russian Revolution and the Wall Street.
1597
1:55:50
1:55:56
But this should be taught in all classes in school from the
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1:55:56
1:56:00
seventh grade to the 12th grade. The banksters financed the
1599
1:56:00
1:56:03
Russian Revolution was not the people who did it. It was the
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1:56:03
1:56:06
banksters and the same with the with the with Adolf Hitler, he
1601
1:56:06
1:56:10
was financed by the banksters. This should this should be
1602
1:56:10
1:56:13
people should not think that it's yeah, the Germans hate the
1603
1:56:13
1:56:15
Russians or the French hate the English. No, no, no, it's not.
1604
1:56:16
1:56:20
It's all made up. So I think following the money, I like that
1605
1:56:20
1:56:22
very much what Glenn said. Yeah.
1606
1:56:23
1:56:28
Jerry and Alex and David, any comment? By the way, just think
1607
1:56:28
1:56:31
about whether this interesting idea of trillionaires. I'll pause
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1:56:31
1:56:33
the recording for a moment.
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1:56:40
1:56:43
Just one small item on follow the money. Yep.
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1:56:44
1:56:47
I don't think there are many cases of it. But there is at
1612
1:56:47
1:56:50
least one case where where people claim there's a mountain
1613
1:56:50
1:56:55
of money, and it's not actually true. And that has to do with
1614
1:56:56
1:57:00
some some amount of the Rothschild family has been
1615
1:57:00
1:57:04
declared as having enormous amount of assets because they
1616
1:57:04
1:57:10
they have full control of all of the diamond structure. It's a
1617
1:57:10
1:57:13
monopoly and and they keep picking up anybody that minds
1618
1:57:13
1:57:18
it and hiding it away. That they can't possibly ever turn that
1619
1:57:18
1:57:22
into real money. Because once they started to open up those
1620
1:57:22
1:57:27
vaults that would turn in, it would turn diamonds into near
1621
1:57:27
1:57:30
worthless, you there would be pennies on the dollar. So while
1622
1:57:30
1:57:34
while there's certainly a number of fairly wealthy Rothschilds
1623
1:57:34
1:57:39
and some of them are in the small count of billions, they
1624
1:57:39
1:57:41
are nowhere near the top of the heap or anywhere near the
1625
1:57:41
1:57:43
trillionaires. Thank you.
1626
1:57:43
1:57:46
Thanks. Thanks, James. So Jerry, Alex and David, any thoughts on
1627
1:57:46
1:57:49
trillionaires? Because first, I love the idea.
1628
1:57:50
1:57:57
I'll just say something about money. Sam Bankman Fried was
1629
1:57:57
1:58:03
referred to not too long ago as a billionaire. Some genius, some
1630
1:58:03
1:58:07
incredible person that we should all listen to, who had some
1631
1:58:07
1:58:15
magical way to create money. He was convicted last week. And by
1632
1:58:15
1:58:20
a jury in New York, and he'll be sentenced in March. The money,
1633
1:58:21
1:58:25
just the wealth, the money, the power, the reverence for this
1634
1:58:25
1:58:29
person just collapses in one instant, it just disappears,
1635
1:58:29
1:58:35
poof, gone. So why? Why do people pay so much attention to
1636
1:58:35
1:58:41
money? It's become our religion. That's why. And it's not a good
1637
1:58:41
1:58:45
thing. Don't look to billionaires or trillionaires or
1638
1:58:45
1:58:49
any one of these people to solve any problem for you. Most of them
1639
1:58:49
1:58:54
have got their money through luck. They've actually run one a lot
1640
1:58:54
1:58:59
free of life. Look at Elon Musk. What's Elon done? I mean, he's
1641
1:58:59
1:59:04
won a couple of lotteries, basically. So this reverence for
1642
1:59:04
1:59:09
wealth is disturbing thing in our culture. And it can
1643
1:59:09
1:59:13
disappear, as I say, in a puff of smoke in one instant. And that
1644
1:59:13
1:59:16
can happen to any of these people. The problem is this, the
1645
1:59:16
1:59:23
problem is that some people when they accumulate wealth, think
1646
1:59:23
1:59:27
that they have the right to power. That's the problem. So
1647
1:59:27
1:59:30
wealth in itself is not the problem. I know lots of wealthy
1648
1:59:30
1:59:33
people who just love to go fishing and sit on the beach and
1649
1:59:33
1:59:35
do nothing. They're not interested in power over people.
1650
1:59:37
1:59:39
It's the element, it's the combination of wealth and the
1651
1:59:39
1:59:44
hunger for power that's the problem. So when some people who
1652
1:59:44
1:59:48
have hunger for power, which we normally call cycle, achieve
1653
1:59:48
1:59:54
some wealth, this is the problem when they join. And that's when
1654
1:59:54
2:00:00
pure evil manifests. So I'm sure they're the dynamics. Wealth in
1655
2:00:00
2:00:06
itself is not a problem. It's when it's when these psychopaths
1656
2:00:06
2:00:12
get control of people through wealth. And as Glenn says,
1657
2:00:12
2:00:16
they're pretty easy to identify. It's not hard at all to identify.
1658
2:00:17
2:00:20
And there are billionaires who are sitting on the beach, they're
1659
2:00:20
2:00:23
not interested in it. Forget them. They're not the problem.
1660
2:00:23
2:00:28
Wealth is not the problem. The problem is this psychopathic
1661
2:00:28
2:00:29
desire for power and control.
1662
2:00:31
2:00:35
And so we're gonna let's get moving. But to take that point,
1663
2:00:36
2:00:41
Jerry, you said one in 20 psychopaths. So if there's 5,000
1664
2:00:41
2:00:45
billionaires, so one in 20 or 5,000 billionaires is a lot of
1665
2:00:45
2:00:47
money. Alex, any thoughts on trillionaires?
1666
2:00:49
2:00:54
I can say one thing. So maybe, Jerry, that the that, you know,
1667
2:00:54
2:00:59
the existence of these billionaires and the the lording
1668
2:00:59
2:01:04
of them by the mainstream media, you know, maybe that's the
1669
2:01:04
2:01:10
problem. And it feeds the love of money, which, which is a false
1670
2:01:10
2:01:11
God, arguably.
1671
2:01:13
2:01:16
Correct. It's become a religion. Yeah, these people think they're
1672
2:01:16
2:01:19
gods, because, quite frankly, most of them just want a lot for
1673
2:01:19
2:01:22
you. I mean, he must start at a company and suddenly the share
1674
2:01:22
2:01:24
price went up and he's valued at all these billions of dollars.
1675
2:01:24
2:01:28
He didn't actually do anything. He just floated a company with
1676
2:01:28
2:01:32
some crazy idea that sounded good, like, you know, drilling
1677
2:01:32
2:01:36
tunnels or putting spaceships up in the air. And so what? I mean,
1678
2:01:37
2:01:39
what good has that done to anybody on the planet? He's an
1679
2:01:39
2:01:43
underachiever, in my opinion, a very, very big underachiever.
1680
2:01:43
2:01:46
He's done very little for the planet. He's starting to wake up.
1681
2:01:46
2:01:51
But so it's all it's all just a myth, you know, that he's this
1682
2:01:51
2:01:54
wonderful person with special ability is just rubbish. He won
1683
2:01:54
2:01:55
the lottery. Okay.
1684
2:01:55
2:02:01
My father was a Midland bank manager, Jerry. And he taught me
1685
2:02:01
2:02:07
and my sister that, well, he told us that that many of his
1686
2:02:07
2:02:12
rich customers were very, very unhappy, or seem to be very
1687
2:02:12
2:02:18
unhappy, and miserable. And, and conversely, the his poor
1688
2:02:18
2:02:23
customers seem to be very happy. So, but I think I don't know
1689
2:02:23
2:02:25
whether he did that deliberately. He was talking to
1690
2:02:25
2:02:30
my mother, and we heard these conversations about people with
1691
2:02:30
2:02:33
loads of money who he met as a bank manager. And they were
1692
2:02:33
2:02:38
unhappy, and the poor people were happy. So that was a good
1693
2:02:38
2:02:42
lesson for us. And, and so but I would say that huge numbers of
1694
2:02:42
2:02:47
people in Western society, certainly, they get distracted
1695
2:02:47
2:02:54
by this money, you know, and, and they come to they wage this
1696
2:02:54
2:03:00
competition with all their friends, you know. And it's just
1697
2:03:00
2:03:03
ridiculous, because I think that if you have too much, a lot of
1698
2:03:03
2:03:08
money, too much money, arguably, then you can buy your way out of
1699
2:03:08
2:03:12
problems, and you get further and further from humanity from
1700
2:03:12
2:03:17
reality. Inevitably, you get lazy. And I think that
1701
2:03:17
2:03:21
suffering is and suffering through wars, perhaps, perhaps,
1702
2:03:21
2:03:24
but, you know, the wars used to be between tribes are the big,
1703
2:03:24
2:03:31
the big evil is that, you know, you get these big countries. And,
1704
2:03:31
2:03:36
of course, when you have huge resources at your disposal, then
1705
2:03:36
2:03:39
that's going to lead to massive problems. Whereas a war between
1706
2:03:39
2:03:43
two tribes, you know, formerly wouldn't cause that much damage.
1707
2:03:43
2:03:46
But it's obvious when you think about when you get over
1708
2:03:46
2:03:50
organization, which Aldous Huxley, who we don't know which
1709
2:03:50
2:03:54
side he was on, he talks about in Brave New World Revisited,
1710
2:03:55
2:03:59
over organization, and Bertrand Russell also talks about over
1711
2:03:59
2:04:05
organization as a cause of unhappiness. So both of them held
1712
2:04:05
2:04:11
the view that over organization was very, very bad. And I think
1713
2:04:11
2:04:16
that is true. But anyway, I think the love of money is a
1714
2:04:16
2:04:21
false god. And there are many, many people I know, who love
1715
2:04:21
2:04:24
money and worship it. And they think that they will be happy if
1716
2:04:24
2:04:27
they have lots of money, which of course, is ridiculous. The
1717
2:04:27
2:04:32
way to get the way to stand a chance of becoming happy is to
1718
2:04:32
2:04:36
do the right thing. And maybe you'll get rewarded. But that's
1719
2:04:36
2:04:40
not why you do the right thing to be rewarded. It maybe comes
1720
2:04:41
2:04:43
with doing the right thing, if you understand me, should do it
1721
2:04:43
2:04:50
for its own intrinsic good. I don't know whether I explained
1722
2:04:50
2:04:53
very well what that means.
1723
2:04:53
2:04:56
Some billionaires are not psychopaths, and they use their
1724
2:04:56
2:05:00
money for good. I mean, I know a billionaire who gave all of his
1725
2:05:00
2:05:05
wealth away, all of it. So just happened to know this man. Okay,
1726
2:05:05
2:05:09
because he was well known in our state. And he was a multi,
1727
2:05:09
2:05:14
multi, multi billionaire gave it all away. All of it. There's
1728
2:05:14
2:05:17
lots of good people who are wealthy. It's not. It's when the
1729
2:05:17
2:05:21
psychopath gets wealth, and then decides that he can use this
1730
2:05:21
2:05:22
wealth to create more power.
1731
2:05:22
2:05:26
Yeah, I understand that point. But I wonder whether the
1732
2:05:26
2:05:29
existence of billionaires and millionaires for that matter, you
1733
2:05:29
2:05:35
know, and that feeds the common man, if you like his
1734
2:05:35
2:05:39
aspirations to, to achieve wealth to you know, they seem to,
1735
2:05:40
2:05:43
I think a lot of people think that they can become happy by
1736
2:05:43
2:05:45
having a lot of money that doesn't follow at all.
1737
2:05:47
2:05:51
And let's get let's get we can zero in on these. We need to
1738
2:05:51
2:05:54
look at the wealthy psychopath. They're the problem.
1740
2:05:56
2:06:00
Just let me this. It's a simple from my viewpoint. It's simple.
1741
2:06:00
2:06:03
If you gain wealth through whatever mechanism, as long as
1742
2:06:03
2:06:07
you do it in a righteous way, it's fine. It's when you lie,
1743
2:06:07
2:06:12
cheat, steal and murder all the, you know, the enormous sins.
1744
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2:06:16
That's when you dangerous and that's when you should be put
1745
2:06:16
2:06:23
away. Or at least you're well taken away and imprisoned. But
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2:06:25
2:06:25
thank you.
1747
2:06:26
2:06:30
Alex quick, they've got a couple of Jeremy and then Alan, we've
1748
2:06:30
2:06:33
got 15 minutes to go. Alex, any comment on the trillionaire
1749
2:06:33
2:06:34
question?
1750
2:06:35
2:06:39
Well, yeah, I you know, I know a little bit about this. And we're
1751
2:06:39
2:06:43
talking about a lot of decadence, a lot of depravity,
1752
2:06:43
2:06:49
and people who are generally not very smart. So not a good power
1753
2:06:49
2:06:52
structure. But you know, I think that going back to something
1754
2:06:52
2:06:58
that was said in this talk today, I think that Jerry said,
1755
2:06:59
2:07:01
perhaps one of the most important things is that we are
1756
2:07:01
2:07:09
winning. And I also, you know, apart from the individual levels
1757
2:07:09
2:07:13
that we are, we are, we are all trying to do, there's also the
1758
2:07:13
2:07:18
cavalry, we're not alone. I just last night, I returned from a
1759
2:07:18
2:07:24
conference, Eurasian integrations conference, and it
1760
2:07:24
2:07:29
was it was held in Samarkand, Uzbekistan, outside of this
1761
2:07:29
2:07:33
Western matrix. And it's wonderful and refreshing,
1762
2:07:33
2:07:36
stepping outside of our matrix, because we are all a little bit
1763
2:07:37
2:07:40
inured to the madness and insanity that we live with every
1764
2:07:40
2:07:43
day. And then you step outside, and you see like, oh, my gosh,
1765
2:07:43
2:07:46
there's normal people talking about normal things, and life
1766
2:07:46
2:07:54
goes on normally. And that world is rising. And I think that what
1767
2:07:54
2:07:59
we're living through cannot stand and it will fall. And the,
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2:07:59
2:08:03
you know, the humanity what it is originally, what it is meant
1769
2:08:03
2:08:08
to be, will be resurrected. It's a it's a big, it's a big talk.
1770
2:08:08
2:08:09
But I'll leave it at that for now.
1771
2:08:12
2:08:16
Very good. Okay, thank you, Alex. Very good. Jeremy, then
1772
2:08:16
2:08:18
Alan, and we're probably going to run out of time. We'll see.
1773
2:08:19
2:08:23
And we're closing comments from Mads and David Webb, and then
1774
2:08:24
2:08:26
we'll, we'll bring it bring this to a thing. And then you can go
1775
2:08:26
2:08:31
to Tom Rodman's telegram video group. If you've got time,
1776
2:08:31
2:08:32
Jeremy.
1777
2:08:32
2:08:36
Yeah, yeah, I loved what John said earlier on, and what Alex
1778
2:08:36
2:08:39
just said just now, it's, I find it really interesting. People
1779
2:08:39
2:08:43
just believe what they want to believe. And I posted something
1780
2:08:43
2:08:47
to some of my friends this week, just on the euro mono numbers
1781
2:08:47
2:08:51
between the death rates and naught to 14 year olds, which is
1782
2:08:51
2:08:55
just staggering. And I had no comment back whatsoever, from my
1783
2:08:55
2:08:58
friends also talked to them about 5g. And I've just sort of
1784
2:08:59
2:09:02
opposed all the installation of the mass on the island where I
1785
2:09:02
2:09:05
live, and try to raise a bit of awareness of that. And people
1786
2:09:05
2:09:08
just aren't interested. They're just going about their business.
1787
2:09:08
2:09:11
And I just wonder how on earth you're going to educate these
1788
2:09:11
2:09:14
people, you know, maybe it's just gonna be too late. But in
1789
2:09:14
2:09:17
my own personal view, it seems like the madmen are in control
1790
2:09:17
2:09:20
in the West, we're living through the fall of the Western
1791
2:09:20
2:09:23
Civilization at the moment. I can't see the Russians and the
1792
2:09:23
2:09:26
Chinese, the Indians running along going along with what
1793
2:09:26
2:09:31
we're doing. So my my really questions to Alex and Jerry,
1794
2:09:31
2:09:35
maybe and the rest of you in that's what sort of time zone
1795
2:09:35
2:09:38
you time scale you thinking because we seem to be rushing
1796
2:09:38
2:09:41
into World War Three, we're probably going to see complete
1797
2:09:41
2:09:45
madness in the US elections and more major civil unrest and
1798
2:09:45
2:09:49
maybe even minus skirmish you start in the war front next year,
1799
2:09:49
2:09:53
maybe 25 we're going into World War Three potentially as the
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2:09:53
2:09:57
neocons believe they can in America believe they can win.
1801
2:09:57
2:10:01
And therefore I was thinking, what are we going to see like a
1802
2:10:01
2:10:04
massive rise in the dollar, you know, all the all the assets in
1803
2:10:04
2:10:10
Europe for flee into the US. And I heard I missed the whole
1804
2:10:10
2:10:12
beginning of this only came on right at the end. So I didn't
1805
2:10:12
2:10:17
hear any of your comments before. Do you do you perceive a
1806
2:10:17
2:10:23
collapse short term or is this collapse with the final collapse
1807
2:10:23
2:10:25
being American collapse?
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2:10:25
2:10:27
If you weren't here for the whole thing, what's the
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2:10:27
2:10:28
recordings to be a good question?
1810
2:10:28
2:10:30
You know, just I'm just going about they talked about collapse
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2:10:30
2:10:33
as they perceive it as an American collapse at the end or
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2:10:34
2:10:36
look, that's that's that's just too big.
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2:10:36
2:10:37
Seriously,
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2:10:37
2:10:40
I'll take a jab. I'll take a jab.
1815
2:10:43
2:10:46
Oh, I'm sorry, Gary. I didn't realize I didn't mean to
1816
2:10:46
2:10:52
interrupt but Douglas MacGregor was talking about possibly US
1817
2:10:52
2:10:58
banks shutting down suddenly and staying shut down for three
1818
2:10:58
2:11:02
weeks. There's a lot of talk of something weird going on. We
1819
2:11:02
2:11:05
don't know what it might be. But we might we might be in for a
1820
2:11:05
2:11:10
surprise short term. And then, you know, there are forces that
1821
2:11:10
2:11:15
are there are forces that are opposed to this neocon globalist
1822
2:11:16
2:11:20
W E F and they are considerable forces. They're not just like
1823
2:11:20
2:11:24
starry eyed flower children. These are these are these are
1824
2:11:24
2:11:28
real forces. And so something will come to a head. I don't
1825
2:11:28
2:11:32
know what it will be but we could be in for for real
1826
2:11:32
2:11:32
surprises.
1827
2:11:33
2:11:34
Thank you.
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2:11:35
2:11:38
Alex, can I ask you what they were talking about in Uzbekistan?
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2:11:39
2:11:43
Oh, yeah, you know, it's so the conference was organized by one
1830
2:11:43
2:11:49
of the two big two fails one of the G SIBs but they they they
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2:11:49
2:11:52
tried hard to hide their identity like they created a new
1832
2:11:52
2:12:01
organization. Other co sponsors were Gazprom Bank, Rosneft and
1833
2:12:01
2:12:09
VTB Bank 1000 delegates from 27 countries, huge delegation from
1834
2:12:09
2:12:14
Italy, or Germans, French, Americans, Iranians. They're all
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2:12:18
talking about cooperation. They're talking about, you know,
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2:12:18
2:12:22
a different path to Eurasia rather than domination and
1837
2:12:22
2:12:26
subjugation and exploitation. They're talking the language of
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2:12:26
2:12:32
cooperation, global partnership and things like this. Real
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2:12:34
conversations very sophisticated.
1840
2:12:35
2:12:38
And Alex, can you can you paint a picture quickly of life in
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2:12:43
Samarkand? How is it different from London? Apart from the
1842
2:12:43
2:12:44
weather?
1843
2:12:44
2:12:48
It's very difficult to explain. But it's familiar to me because
1844
2:12:48
2:12:51
I grew up in the world like that. You know, like people going
1845
2:12:51
2:12:58
about their business in a normal way. You know, people going to
1846
2:12:58
2:13:04
work, making food, children going to school. None of this
1847
2:13:04
2:13:08
LGBT who's on the left, who's on the right, who's a who's a
1848
2:13:08
2:13:13
trader who's it's hard to explain. But it's just like normal.
1849
2:13:13
2:13:15
It's same. It feels same.
1850
2:13:15
2:13:17
Do they worship their mobile phones and social media in
1851
2:13:17
2:13:18
Samarkand?
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2:13:19
2:13:25
They have they have all that. But, you know, it's not. People
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2:13:25
2:13:30
are not people. People feel mellow, feel mellow. They're
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2:13:30
2:13:35
warm, they're friendly. And there's an there's an absence of
1855
2:13:35
2:13:42
this hysteria and an outrage. And I, you know, I wish I could
1856
2:13:42
2:13:45
explain it better than that. But you know, when you when you step
1857
2:13:45
2:13:48
into it, you're aware of what it is. And then you're also aware
1858
2:13:49
2:13:54
of the absolute madness, madness, and and and insanity
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2:13:54
2:13:56
that we're living through.
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2:13:56
2:13:59
So that suggests that the madness and outrage could be
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2:14:02
generated, doesn't it? You know, they know what?
1862
2:14:02
2:14:04
No, they're they're whipped up on purpose. There's no doubt
1863
2:14:04
2:14:07
that they're being whipped up on purpose. This is all like divide
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2:14:07
2:14:10
and conquer nonstop everybody against everybody to make, to
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2:14:10
2:14:14
make people lose reason to lose to make people disoriented to
1866
2:14:14
2:14:17
make people not understand what the problem is, where the blows
1867
2:14:17
2:14:20
are coming from, and how to defend ourselves against it.
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2:14:20
2:14:24
So maybe that's the most important message we can put
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2:14:26
out. I don't know, maybe.
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2:14:29
David, David, I'd like to say something to rationalize
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2:14:29
2:14:33
everything we're talking about here. So it's not in 44. Since
1872
2:14:33
2:14:37
1944. Everything is about the dominance of the US dollar
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2:14:37
2:14:43
currency. Everything in the financial sector. And the people
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2:14:43
2:14:47
who support that, the cabal, they're desperately trying to
1875
2:14:47
2:14:49
hold on to that position, because it's an incredibly
1876
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2:14:53
powerful position that is the ultimate power financially. Now,
1877
2:14:53
2:14:56
the rest of the people that Alex just went to meet are all
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2:14:56
2:15:01
talking about multipolarity, where currencies are used,
1879
2:15:01
2:15:04
national currencies are used to settle trades rather than a
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2:15:04
2:15:07
single currency being predominantly used. So this is
1881
2:15:07
2:15:11
all about US dollar dominance. And a lot of people I write
1882
2:15:11
2:15:15
about that a lot, by the way, in my editorial article, a lot of
1883
2:15:15
2:15:18
people asked me, how long can the US dollar maintain dominant?
1884
2:15:18
2:15:25
Well, it's a difficult question. But chaos, warfare, global
1885
2:15:25
2:15:29
geopolitical uncertainty feed dollar dominance, the dollars as
1886
2:15:29
2:15:32
strong as an ox at the moment, and getting stronger, by the
1887
2:15:32
2:15:36
way, right, people fantasize about the collapse of the dollar.
1888
2:15:36
2:15:38
Well, I'll tell you, it ain't happening. It's as strong as an
1889
2:15:38
2:15:44
ox, right. So it's not going to happen tomorrow. As long as this
1890
2:15:44
2:15:48
continual chaos and warfare and destabilization continues that
1891
2:15:48
2:15:53
feeds us dollar dominance. And we have an opposition to it, as
1892
2:15:53
2:15:56
Alex says, which is the world of cooperation, and
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2:15:56
2:16:00
multipolarity of currencies. And that world gives us some hope, I
1894
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2:16:04
think. When people ask me how long will it take before the US
1895
2:16:04
2:16:11
dollar dominance is lost, I say 100 years, maybe 50. But I can't
1896
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2:16:16
see it happening too soon. It's too dominant. The system they've
1897
2:16:16
2:16:22
built is all encompassing. And chaos and geopolitical uncertainty
1898
2:16:22
2:16:27
feeds it. So we've got a long way to battle here. This is as I
1899
2:16:27
2:16:29
said earlier, this is the beginning of a very long fight
1900
2:16:29
2:16:34
back. And the multipolarity argument, the cooperation
1901
2:16:34
2:16:37
argument that Alex has witnessed recently is is a great thing.
1902
2:16:37
2:16:41
It's a good development. And it's a balancing it's a balance
1903
2:16:41
2:16:44
to this madness of one currency dominance.
1904
2:16:46
2:16:50
Thanks. Thank you, Jerry. Okay, last question to Alan. And then
1905
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2:16:55
we'll get final closing statements. Alan, who knows a
1906
2:16:55
2:16:57
bit about banking and who's muted?
1907
2:17:01
2:17:09
Okay, yeah, can you hear me now? Right. Thank you. Yeah, I, I've
1908
2:17:09
2:17:12
really getting a lot of value out of this. I'm new. I'll be going
1909
2:17:12
2:17:19
over to Tom Rodman's chat after this. But I just wanted to tell
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2:17:23
y'all that I've got three and a half years and more of
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2:17:23
2:17:30
information on this that I've been trying to research this
1912
2:17:30
2:17:37
Enzlau Promise software that was stolen in 1980s by Israel's, you
1913
2:17:37
2:17:42
know, Rafi Eitan and Robert Maxwell. Basically, Jim, or
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2:17:42
2:17:46
Bill Hamilton, who made this Enzlau prosecutor management
1915
2:17:46
2:17:52
information system, look that up. And, but he contacted me
1916
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2:17:55
three and a half years ago and said, send me any incriminating
1917
2:17:55
2:17:59
information you have. And there's just it ties everything
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2:17:59
2:18:02
together. But basically, the Reagan Administration Justice
1919
2:18:02
2:18:08
Department and CIA, and as you know, the Mossad took this
1920
2:18:08
2:18:15
software and they used it for that unit 8200 and to create the
1921
2:18:15
2:18:21
internet, Google, the banking laundering system. You know,
1922
2:18:21
2:18:24
it's, it's how they control everything. It, and the Stanny
1923
2:18:24
2:18:30
Casolaro was researching it called it the octopus. 1991. He
1924
2:18:30
2:18:34
was found dead right when he was about to go back to Jim Hamilton
1925
2:18:34
2:18:38
and said, I'm coming back with the head of the octopus. And so
1926
2:18:38
2:18:41
ever since that day, it goes, what was the head of the
1927
2:18:41
2:18:46
octopus? And, you know, this idea, follow the money. And so,
1928
2:18:47
2:18:50
oh, like, the third, you know, for the last 30 years, many
1929
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2:18:55
investigative journalists have been trying to research this
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2:19:00
question. And it, it seems to one of the, you know, so it's
1931
2:19:00
2:19:05
this forensic process of being like an intelligence agency. And
1932
2:19:06
2:19:08
so one of my theories of the, you know, the money with the
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2:19:08
2:19:12
trillions is the crown of England, you know, Prince Charles,
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2:19:18
Prince King Charles, you know, that they really do have, I
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2:19:18
2:19:22
think the Panama Papers and, you know, all you think we're going
1936
2:19:22
2:19:25
to get to those people, but they don't quite get to them and
1937
2:19:25
2:19:30
people start dying, you know, like, like, Ronald Bernard,
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2:19:33
that's, that's an interesting find. So, you know, we're, we
1939
2:19:33
2:19:39
are like a, you know, we were doing what the CIA was supposed
1940
2:19:39
2:19:45
to do. But they, a lot of what I know, I know from following
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2:19:51
Peter Dale Scott, and all these conspiracy researchers of the
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2:19:51
2:19:55
deep state, Whitney Webb, you know, these are, those are
1943
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2:19:59
probably the two best Peter Dale Scott, Whitney Webb, you know,
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2:20:04
has really explained, I wish he was on this call. I can hardly
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2:20:04
2:20:07
get anybody's phone numbers. That's what's kind of
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2:20:07
2:20:12
interesting. You know, I see Dan, you know, who I've read
1947
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2:20:15
Estelon, and you know, these are the sources that I've been
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2:20:18
collecting for the last three years, just each one of them
1949
2:20:18
2:20:22
shows us, you know, a part of the elephant that we're, we're
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2:20:22
2:20:26
trying to see. And, you know, the main thing is to frame it
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2:20:33
from this, this kind of CIA deep state perspective, you know, who
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2:20:39
is this invisible empire, you know, because it really, once
1953
2:20:39
2:20:43
you kind of start seeing that dimension, you know that, you
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2:20:43
2:20:48
know, 911, JFK, and COVID, and everything that's going on has
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2:20:51
Quickly, Alan, Alan, you're going too broadly.
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2:20:53
Yeah, okay. So let's talk more afterwards.
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2:20:58
Yeah, you go to the group. So everybody, no more questions,
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2:20:59
Marvin.
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2:21:03
Close. Can I just ask a couple of questions? Quick questions?
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2:21:06
Of course. Yes, you Stephen, you can and then closing comments
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2:21:09
from Mads, David, Jerry and Alex.
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2:21:14
So I hope all our guests are still here. David, Matt is still
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2:21:21
here. Jerry and yep. And Alex. I just wanted so, Jerry, I've got
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2:21:26
a question for you from one of my sons. He asks, how did you
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2:21:31
learn about, he knows you're a doctor, you see. So he wanted me
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2:21:36
to ask, how did you learn about economics, finance? But I've got
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2:21:37
a question for all of you in a second.
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2:21:46
Well, I retired in 2007, long time ago. And since then, I've
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2:21:51
had a lot of spare time. And if you read voraciously, and
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2:21:51
2:21:53
constant in a concentrated fashion, you can work out how
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2:21:53
2:21:56
the financial system operates, how the banking system operates.
1973
2:21:56
2:21:59
You have to pay attention that there's lots of things change
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2:21:59
2:22:03
over time. It takes a lot of effort, the years of hard work
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2:22:03
2:22:07
and study and good sources, you need good sources of
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2:22:12
information. So that's the quick answer. I'll just give him one
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2:22:15
fact to go and look up though. And that is that the special
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2:22:23
drawing rights that are issued by the IMF increased dramatically
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2:22:24
2:22:31
on the 23rd of August 2021. And that if he starts there to work
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2:22:31
2:22:35
out what a special drawing right is, and what that event got
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2:22:35
2:22:38
impacted had, you'll start to see you can start working out
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2:22:38
2:22:43
what's going on. So special drawing rights issued on August
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2:22:49
the 23rd 2021 by the IMF to many, many, many nations. You
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2:22:49
2:22:52
start with that one fact, you can work with from there.
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2:22:52
2:22:58
So Jerry, we'll start with you. I wanted to ask you, what's your
1986
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2:23:01
favourite book? And secondly, what's the most important thing
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2:23:03
that you've heard tonight that you would like people to
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2:23:05
remember who watching the video?
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2:23:10
Oh, wow. The first question is, what's my favourite book? Well,
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there are so many books I could mention, but my favourite book of
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all that I tell everybody to read is called The Brothers. It's
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all about the Dulles brothers, John Foster Dulles and Alan
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Dulles. That book, anyone reading that book, it's a very
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short book, and anyone reading that book will have the
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illusions about history torn side and suddenly realise they're
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living in a very different world than they thought they lived in.
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So I recommend that book is called The Brothers. I think it's
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called The Brothers, John Foster Dulles and Alan Dulles, and
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their war on humanity or something like that. I forget
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that book. So that book is freely available. And what was
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the second thing, the major lesson?
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So what's the most important thing you've heard tonight,
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which you'd like people to remember? Sorry, single out so
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that they remember at least that one thing
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that I've heard.
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Or said yourself?
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I think the most well, I think David Webb's comment on how
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stupid the whole plan is by the fascists, the fascist criminal
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cabal is a really important statement. It is so dumb, so
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stupid, so idiotic, that it can't succeed. So why are they
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bothering? You know, I think this is a great statement. And
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we need to ridicule them. I mean, ridicule them. I agree.
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Ridicule is actually, I think a very powerful weapon. So we
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should think more about ridicule.
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And if you remember, Orwell used satire, specifically,
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specifically of Stalin in Animal Farm. And that's why he
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couldn't get the damned book published. For a year, I think
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it was and that was George Orwell.
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2:25:08
Um, thank you, Jerry. Alex. Oh, Alex, can you say what is your
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favourite book? Can I?
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The most important book I ever read is called Nutrition and
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Physical Degeneration by Weston Price. Nothing to do what we're
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talking about. I think that's the most important book I ever
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read. So in closing remarks, I just want to give people like a
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couple of couple of points to connect. So I mentioned this
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conference in Kyrgyzstan where I was invited to speak, it was
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organised by this big one of the big banks, Italian bank. This
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bank recently made a large investment in Elon Musk's
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SpaceX. Okay. SpaceX recently got a large contract from the US
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Space Forces. The US Space Force was set up by Donald Trump,
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which everybody was thought was a really dumb thing. Just Trump
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being stupid as he is right. But as most things that Trump did,
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there was method to the madness. And why did he do that? Because
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he needed to set up a separate military hierarchy that he could
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staff with people loyal to him. And so there's there are big
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forces arranging, taking, you know, shape to counter these mad
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globalists, this parasitic cabal. That's all.
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Thank you, Alex.
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Alex, is that the most important thing you've heard tonight or
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said yourself?
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Oh, I don't know. I heard many important things tonight. I, but
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you know, not everything, not everything. I don't know if I
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heard something new that I haven't heard before. You know, I
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think that, you know, we're understanding what's going on.
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And I couldn't put my finger on one important thing, you know, so
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many are, maybe everything is maybe absolutely everything we
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talked about tonight is, is important.
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Excellent. Yeah, very good. Thank you so much. And David, and
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Webb. Oh, sorry, we'll go to Matt's first and then you David.
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Matt, what's your favorite book, if you want to tell us?
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Yeah, I mean, I would like that more people had read Professor
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Anthony Sutton spoke about who were behind the Russian
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Revolution, because I was arguing my entire school years
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with about 90% communists, who were kind of making excuses for
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100 million dead Russians, because it was a price that they
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were willing to pay, because it was not their family who eluded
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and killed. And we see that not going on now again, with the
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white phosphorus on other people's babies, that's fine. And
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we saw it also with all the everybody including freedom
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fighters, when there were collective punishment of
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Russians, nobody said anything, you they cannot be in Olympic
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Games. So they had all their their bank accounts frozen in the
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West, an ordinary Russian who loves the West. There's nothing
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more they want to become Westerners. And they're not
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nothing more they want to become Westerners. They had their kids
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in private schools in England, they invest in bank accounts and
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equities, bank transfer, overnight, boom, frozen, nobody
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said a thing. It's collective punishment of a nation. I can't
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transfer money to my mother in law in Moscow. I can't even send
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her a package with Royal Mail. I can't fly there. I can't drive
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there. I can't take a train. I can't sail there. I have to fly
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through Serbia if I want to visit my Russian family. And
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nobody said a thing. That's fine. Because it's not it's not
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me who's suffering. Collective punishment of the Russians. And
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now we see it on the Palestinians and nobody lifts a
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finger. But I think this time is the Hebrews, I think they went
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as one this time, I my guess is that they went too far. So the
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book I wanted to I want to explain was Professor Anthony
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Sutton and the and who was behind the Wall Street Revolution,
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sorry, the the the policy revolution. And and then what I
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want to say about tonight, what I want to think is saying is that
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if I've been working very much with the with the demonstration
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and what the people can do, but and David is working from the
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ops with the great taking because the people who can lose
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the most are the people who are very wealthy. And if we can get
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both the people and the wealthy to work together about creating
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creating a society with truth and reconciliation, but where
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the rich can keep their money or whatever. And over time, if we
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all become rich, because we have abundance, we have AI, we're
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all going to be rich, the world is so rich, everything,
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everything, it's we can create a win win situation for everybody.
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So that's what I what I just want to finish off with that.
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We should somehow try to, to to to do what we are doing, but
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also understand we are part of a whole. And I agree that with
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both Alex and Gary, that we are definitely winning. I can I can
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feel it, the stuff we are allowed to say. And also don't
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remember the people you can't criticize, probably the people
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we should be criticizing. So go out and protest against the
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Zionists first thing in the morning.
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Yeah, so the win win situation you talk about, that's I'm
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thinking to myself, well, actually, human beings need
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suffering, arguably. And the reason for that is probably
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Well, I've been married 33 years, you know, I mean, that's
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fine. Yeah.
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2:31:04
Come on, Stephen, get the last one. We're way over time. And
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2:31:08
Stephen, on that point, remember that married Stephen is a
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three ring circus, the wedding, the engagement ring, the
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wedding ring and the suffering.
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2:31:19
Exactly. So the suffering, your wife would sort it out for
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you. You're done, man. Your wife, I know you're married as
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well. So
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Yeah. So David, what about you? What's your favorite book?
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Well, recently, David McCullough's biography of John
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No, not just recently, you know, in. So what's your
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favorite book?
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That's what comes to mind.
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2:31:44
Oh, is it? So what is it?
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David McCullough's biography of John Adams.
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Is that what it's called? Biography of John Adams?
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It's a very timely, timely thing. It's about the
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difference that a person can make.
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Yeah. And what have you heard tonight or said yourself, which
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2:32:10
you think is very important for people to understand who are
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watching this video?
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2:32:17
Well, I was very moved by hearing Mads.
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2:32:29
Just his passion and ideas. And it was very good for me to
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hear him, as I said, so full of piss and vinegar tonight,
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because that's what it takes.
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2:32:39
I agree.
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It takes people.
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2:32:43
We need courageous people.
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2:32:52
They can make a difference individually.
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That's what it comes down to.
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2:33:01
You have to decide that there's no alternative.
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Exactly.
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2:33:07
All right.
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2:33:10
So it's the fight.
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It's an existential fight, isn't it?
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2:33:12
All war.
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2:33:15
All right, everybody.
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2:33:20
Magnificent contributions from tonight, Steven, from this
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2:33:24
conversation and David Webb with your book, The Great Taking
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2:33:28
Off and Jerry's perspective, that only one in 20 of the
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2:33:29
billionaires are psychopaths.
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2:33:33
So Alex and guys, what we have to do is my suggestion we'll
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close with this because we're in fact, we'll have a little
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I'll stop the recording.
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Thanks, everybody, for being here.
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I will share this thought.