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meet the family.
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they were being represented by a legal team.
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Within a day or two, or rather the day before I had the meeting set up, I got a message
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want to meet me.
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I said, why?
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He said, well, we just don't want to meet you.
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So I said, well, what I'll do is I'll send on the information that I got from Professor
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Bakhti and I did that.
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my calls.
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Who wouldn't?
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He said he'd instantly took my calls.
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So I firmly believe that the legal team warned them off me.
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worse for them.
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the fact that he died five days after the vaccine.
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of compensation.
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I thought between the lines, I thought that there was an idea that there was going to
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be some compensation or that.
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It'll be very interesting now to see if in effect the, you know, whether what the verdict
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Yes, we're going to go.
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Jerry, stop.
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We'll talk some more about that.
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Jerry, I would say that the open verdict is actually better than the other one that they
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could have got natural causes because that's what they gave to.
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Oh, no, it was suicide in the case of David Kelly, but he should have had an open verdict,
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of course.
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And so I don't know about you, your perception in Ireland, but open verdict in the UK is
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Let's go.
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Thank you, Jerry, for that.
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But there's those inquests are so important.
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And the transcript, as we've talked about of the UK inquiry into Covid response.
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So everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for Covid Ethics International.
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I'm very excited because this is the last week of 5am starts and our guest today, Philip
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Altman, Dr Philip Altman, he's got a 5am start as well because he's in Australia.
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But Philip starts normally at 5am, Stephen.
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So he's a good man.
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And I'd rather be in bed.
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But anyway, here I am with all of you lot.
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If I'd been in the last week, Stephen, I could have waited until next week.
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I started 6am next week.
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How exciting.
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Anyway, so welcome to the end of October 7am.
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And somebody pointed out to me that New Zealand Daylight Saving started this weekend.
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So they're one week ahead of Australia.
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Oh, I didn't know that.
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I didn't want that either.
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So there you are.
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Is that correct?
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All right.
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So welcome to today's discussion.
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The New Zealand Daylight Saving Group was founded by Dr Stephen Frost over three years
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ago with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.
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Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower
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and activist.
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His medical specialty is radiology.
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At this time, we remember Rainer Formick, German US lawyer who's currently incarcerated
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in Germany, undergoing a show trial, has been in jail for almost a year after an illegal
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criminal kidnapping through collusion of the Mexican government and German government.
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I call out those two governments.
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I call on him to be released as we all do here.
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The show trial is a disgrace on any legal principles.
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And Ryan Formick is a man who has fought for truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.
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If anyone has any updates on his situation, please put them into the chat.
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I'm Charles Corvus, the moderator of this group.
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I'm Australasia's passion provocateur.
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And we love passionate people in these meetings.
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I practiced law for 20 years before changing career 31 years ago.
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And over the last 14 years, I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies for vaccine
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damage and damage from bad medical advice.
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Bad medical advice is now the number one killer in America.
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Bad medical advice.
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I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company and industrial hemp is going to be a lifesaver
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for us as humanity against the globalists who want to destroy humanity.
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We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world.
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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.
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Now, many of us proudly say, yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers.
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And I will keep saying that Stanley Plotkin in the last couple of months published an
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article, he the godfather, the alleged godfather of children's vaccines in America.
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Now in his eighties, having been deposed by Aaron Ciri through the informed consent action
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network orchestrated by Del Bigtree of the high wire, full credit to Del Bigtree and
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his team.
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Stanley Plotkin has now acknowledged in his article that no childhood vaccine in history
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ever has been properly tested for safety and efficacy.
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And anybody who tells you the contrary is deliberately ignorant.
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If this is your first time, sorry, in other words, no vaccines for children.
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Putting vaccines into children is essentially saying that God is a failure.
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If this is your first time here, welcome and feel free to introduce yourself in the chat
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and where you're from.
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If you publish a newsletter or podcast or you have a radio or TV show or you've written
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a book, put the links into the chat so we can follow you, promote you and find you.
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Philip Altman, put your sub stack link into the chat, please, so that people can easily
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Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III and that the medical science
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battle is only one of 12 battle fronts.
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Today, Philip Altman is going to be talking about the cunning stunts that governments
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use on the legal battlefront.
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No time to be tired.
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We're four and a half years into a seven year war.
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I assess we've got a lot of work to do everybody.
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So look after yourself.
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Do what needs to be done.
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So you are in magnificent health.
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Most of us understand the development of science and the science is never settled.
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This meeting runs for two and a half hours after which for those with the time Tom Rodman
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runs a video telegram meeting.
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Tom puts the links into the chat.
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If you are able to join, we will listen to our guest presenter, Dr. Philip Altman, for
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as long as Philip wishes to speak.
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Philip is going to be wonderful on Q&A with his background, which I will tell you about
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in a moment.
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Stephen Frost, by long established tradition, asks the first questions for 15 minutes.
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This is a free speech environment with appropriate moderating.
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Free speech is crucially important in a fight to preserve our human freedoms.
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And in Australia, a new misinformation disinformation bill has been brought in to
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literally ban anybody saying anything the government doesn't approve of.
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So it is full attack on free speech in Australia.
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And as most Australians would say to the government, they are talking bullshit.
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However, we must fight against it.
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If you're offended by anything, be offended.
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We are lovingly not interested.
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We reject the offense industry that requires nobody to say anything that may offend another.
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Be ready with your responses when somebody says, Stephen, I'm offended by what you said.
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And I have nine standard responses if you want that.
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In fact, I'll put it into the chat.
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Nine standard responses.
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Be ready.
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One of my standard responses when someone says they're offended by what I said,
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I say, well, I'm offended that you dare tell me that you're offended.
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So now we're both offended.
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Happens all the time to me, Charles.
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And what's your standard response, Stephen?
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People saying I'm no, I'm joking.
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And we also reject the triggering industry, the triggered industry.
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Don't say something you might trigger somebody that is a BS industry as well designed to suppress
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free speech.
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We come with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear.
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Fear is the opposite of love.
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Fear squashes you and enslaves you.
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Love, on the other hand, expands you, liberates you.
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These twice weekly meetings are not just talkfests.
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An extraordinary range of actions and initiatives have been generated from linkages made by
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attendees in these meetings.
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One, for example, is Albert Benavides and his VAERS database.
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It was Jerry Waters in these meetings who helped to finance the establishment of that
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excellent database that enables Albert to properly show the true state of carnage of
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these COVID jabs and indeed any jabs.
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If you have a solution or a product or links or resources that will help people put the
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details into the chat, the meeting is recorded, is uploaded onto the Rumble channel.
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And now welcome to our guest presenter, Dr Philip Altman.
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Thank you so much, Philip, for giving us your time, wisdom and insights.
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And for the purposes of the recording, I'm going to read your abbreviated curriculum
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Philip has expertise in the areas of clinical medical research and pharmaceutical drug
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regulatory affairs in Australia.
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For the past four years, he has shone a light on the many failures of governments and regulators
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holding the degrees of bachelor of pharmacy, honors a master of science and doctor of
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philosophy.
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Philip's doctorate concerned the development of new cardiotonic drugs with lower intrinsic
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toxicity compared to existing drugs, including the chemical synthesis and testing in various
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animal models.
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Philip has worked primarily within the Australian pharmaceutical industry since 1974.
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So that's your 50th anniversary here, Philip, in relation to clinical trial design,
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management and reporting in relation to planning new drug approvals, dealing with the secretary
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of the Department of Health and the Therapeutic Goods Administration.
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After many years of working within Big Pharma, Philip later became a senior industry
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pharmaceutical consultant through his contract research company, which provides both clinical
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trial and regulatory consultant services to pharmaceutical industry.
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And that focused his experience in critically evaluating clinical trial safety and efficacy
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data as submitted in complex new drug dossiers for international regulatory purposes.
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This work saw Philip consulted by more than half of the multinational pharmaceutical companies
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in Australia in various capacities with a focus on drug regulatory affairs.
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Philip founded the Association of Regulatory and Clinical Scientists, which includes more than
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trial and regulatory affairs in Australia and New Zealand, where that association continues
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to be the foremost educational forum for both industry and government, including the TGA
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personnel involved in clinical trials and regulatory affairs.
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Philip's experience involves more than 100 clinical trials and lots more, lots more.
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directed two major drug withdrawals in relation to public safety.
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So Philip has a popular substack for four years. He has shone a light, as I said at the start,
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on what we've been facing. And his topic today is that prior to COVID, it was against the law to
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say any therapeutic was safe. The government said the COVID jabs were safe. How did the government
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get around the law? So Philip, thank you for being willing to speak to us again. Philip has spoken,
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I think, on two previous occasions. And thank you, Stephen Frost, again, for organizing this group
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and for us, Stephen and I, for organizing Philip and getting him off his desk and talking to us.
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Welcome, Philip. Thank you very much for having me.
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And good morning. It's 5 a.m. It's still dark here.
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So I guess I can start with that topic. How did the Australian government say
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in an unqualified way that the COVID-19 vaccines were safe?
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When this all started, I was certainly on a big learning curve like everyone else,
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because this was completely new. And when I heard the chief medical officer and other
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senior bureaucrats in Australia start to say in an unqualified way that the COVID vaccines were
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safe and effective, I knew that that couldn't be right. It basically couldn't be right
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for two main reasons on its surface without even digging at any data.
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The first reason was that the COVID-19 vaccines were provisionally approved
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provisionally approved. Now that was a new regulatory pathway
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for therapeutic goods in Australia. So as opposed to getting full approval
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for drugs that following the submission of quality, safety, and efficacy data,
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a drug was either rejected or fully approved. However, from 2018, a new regulatory pathway
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was introduced. And that was the provisional approval where a company could submit partial
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quality, safety, and efficacy data. And they could receive provisional approval
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pending the supply of the outstanding data up to six years after the fact. Now
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I always thought in the beginning when that was done
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that that would apply to very few drugs. And it would normally apply by logic because of the
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safety risk to special circumstances where there was no alternative or it was a potentially
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life-saving drug that showed promise. And the potential recipient, the prospects were not
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very good. It could have been new drugs for cancer or something like that.
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But this was a provisionally approved drug.
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And it was advocated either in the beginning or shortly thereafter
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for everyone, not only for desperately
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ill people, but for healthy people, for pregnant women, for breastfeeding women,
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for children, and then for the elderly. And it was a provisionally approved drug.
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And that didn't seem right to me. So that's the first point. And up until
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even now, I don't think that's the first point. And I think that's the first point.
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And that didn't seem right to me. So that's the first point. And up until even now
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in Australia, for young children, the COVID vaccines are still provisionally approved. They,
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in more recent times, approved the COVID vaccines for adults.
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So that was the first reason that I was surprised at. The second reason was that I was
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was well-trained within the industry. And later on in my career, I had to sign off on
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marketing advertising for drugs that were sold by the company that I worked for.
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And they had to get medical approval for any advertisement. So I knew something about the
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Therapeutic Goods Advertising Code, things that you could say and you couldn't say by law. So
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there is a Therapeutic Goods Advertising Code in Australia. And that code specifically said
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you could not claim a drug or a therapeutic was safe, safe in an unqualified way.
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And yet the Chief Medical Officer of Australia was saying repeatedly ad nauseam that these COVID-19
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vaccines, these provisionally, they called them approved and they weren't approved.
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They were provisionally approved. And there's a huge difference.
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They said that these approved drugs were safe. And that, at that time, was against the law.
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So I've actually been involved in a number of legal cases for
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for individuals who were fighting the vaccine mandates and
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and involved in larger companies, larger suits with the federal court here and
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with the High Court of Australia. So I've been keeping touch with many lawyers. And
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and one of the lawyers that I was working with when I commented that it was against the law
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to say that these things were safe, he pricked up his ears and he said,
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why do you say that? Where is that? And I said, well, it's in the Therapeutic Goods Advertising
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Code. And I didn't have it at my fingertips at the time. But he dug around and pulled up the
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advertising code. And to his credit, he actually found how they were able to get around it.
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This lawyer is Jaden Beal. Very, very good. He's involved in a very important case in Queensland.
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So Jaden sent me the
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the amendment to the Therapeutic Goods Advertising Code word for word. And
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single handedly just changed the advertising code to exempt COVID-19 vaccines from the
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regulation that said you cannot claim a drug was safe.
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where a drug or a therapeutic, any therapeutic that does not is not supported
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to support the approval of the drug could be put on the market.
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it was safe. So the public
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trust the TGA, the Therapeutic Goods Administration, at least they did then.
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I did too. I was really surprised that TGA here
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has standards equivalent to the US FDA and is one of the, has been
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known as one of the best drug regulators in the world. And I knew a lot of the people
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personally within the TGA. And they generally do a very good job. Yeah, I've had disputes with them.
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I've gone to bat for multinationals to appeal decisions that were made by the TGA. And I know
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from years of experience that
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they're very good at what they do. They know what they're doing. And when I heard that
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the chief medical officer, other bureaucrats, state health officers, chief health officers
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in each state were saying and repeating the mantra, the COVID vaccines were safe and
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effective without qualification, I was shocked, absolutely shocked. So
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in a nutshell, that's how they did it. And to this day, I think most Australians and most
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most Americans heard the same mantra. And they trust their drug regulators to keep them safe.
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it is astounding that this mantra can continue to be repeated. Absolutely astounding.
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Let me tell you that having worked in the industry for a long time, and I've been involved in a lot
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of interesting cases, the drug regulators here and the US FDA have an incredible capacity to
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keep abreast of the world literature. They have huge resources. They have people dedicated to do
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this. And if I or anyone else launched an application, say a bibliographic application,
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which is one type of application, usually applying to older drugs, where you rely on the literature
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to support an application. If you don't present the full literature, that is the good, the bad,
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and the ugly, and mention that and review that in your application, you are in trouble, because they
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do their own research and they can pull up all the literature. And if you don't present
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papers and literature that maybe does not support your application, you don't comment on that and
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you hide it, you lose all credibility. So they know. And I've been involved in
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cases where a single paper, even not a clinical type paper, but a laboratory-based paper,
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suggested a toxicity which was new or unusual could cause a firestorm within the TGA and would
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prompt them to contact the company with a please explain letter. We're talking here about four years
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and thousands and thousands of papers and reports and literally millions of adverse drug reaction
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reports and hundreds of thousands of reported deaths in association with the administration
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of these vaccines that it is unparalleled in history and yet it has not prompted
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the Australian TGA or the US FDA to send a letter to the company's concern or pick up the phone
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and say please explain. You have 30 days or you have 60 days or 90 days.
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Things like the rubbery white clots that have been reported all around the world
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by embalmers, we all know about this. In the past, before COVID,
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a single report like that would have normally triggered a drug regulator to make an inquiry.
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We don't have single reports. We have hundreds and hundreds of reports. We have autopsies. It's all
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published, this video. And yet the drug regulator would have been
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a drug regulator. It's not asked a question about that. The recommendation now is
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that people get their ninth booster. It seems incredible to me. So basically, Charles,
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that covers all of them.
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There's only about 10 bombshells in what you just shared over the last half hour.
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So that is like, I don't know where to start with this outrageous attack on this industry that you
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loved, that you thought was properly regulated, that you've spent 50 years in this industry.
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So as you know, Stephen goes first while Stephen's collecting his thoughts. Are you there Stephen?
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Oh yeah, sorry. I'm here. We just can't see you.
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It's just that I've got the, that's it. That's great. So just before you, just to gather your
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thoughts, Philip, I have a question for you. Can you tell everybody John Skerritt's current
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position having retired from TGA? Well, right. So John Skerritt, who was
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up until recently the head of the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration, has now joined
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the peak, basically lobbying body in Australia. It was called, when I was
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practicing and had my business years ago, was called the Australian Pharmaceutical Manufacturers
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Association, the ATMA. Now it's called Medicines Australia. So he's representing
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at a senior level the pharmaceutical industry in Australia. So he's on, he's a director of,
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he's on the board of directors of Medicines Australia, the peak body representing the
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interest of pharmaceutical companies. Yeah. And really it was, it's the first case.
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We've all heard of the revolving door in the US where the commissioners are,
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for the FDA, join industry. They're on fairly small salaries as commissioners to the FDA.
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And then there's a decision made by the FDA for a company, they get their drug approved. And
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shortly after that, these people pop up on boards of directors of those companies
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that own the drug. And that was commonly called, and we all know it, as the revolving door. And
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it's a real problem because there's a lot of money to be made. And these companies can afford to pay
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huge salaries to these ex-commissioners who know people within the FDA who have good connections.
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This seems to be routine. To my mind, it shouldn't be allowed. But the move by John Skerritt
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was the first such move in Australia. And it actually doesn't surprise me because the way the
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TGA was behaving, it's not the same TGA that I knew. In fact, up until COVID came along,
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I didn't have a problem with the TGA. I held them in high regard.
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I worked very closely with them over the years, some very, very difficult files,
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lots of interactions, lots of submissions, countless submissions, and I was very happy
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to be able to work with them. And I was very happy to be able to work with them.
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Lots of interactions, lots of submissions, countless submissions. They were very, very good.
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I mean, the requirements were really, really tough to prove quality, safety, and efficacy.
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The requirements in Australia were really tough. Let me give you a simple example.
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for blood pressure, say, that the application was to take the tablet once a day to lower
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your blood pressure, and that was approved. And the company then wanted to submit an application
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to give half a tablet once a day to lower the dose. Well, you couldn't just apply for that.
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Well, you could apply for it, but the TGA would come back and say,
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oh, you want to break the tablet in two? Right. Demonstrate to us that the sustained release
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characteristics from the matrix of that tablet, when you change the geometry of that tablet,
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are the same within 5% or 10%. I forget the limits of the whole tablet. And you're giving
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half the dose. Right? I mean, that is the fine detail that they drilled down to in terms of
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quality. And I respect them for that. It's a good question. Why would you change the geometry of a
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tablet that has a matrix and a coding around the tablet, just breaking it in half? Is it going to
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behave the same? No, you have to prove that. The burden of proof is on the company.
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So, that's a very simple example, a small example. But there are guidelines. And I must say that
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when dealing with drug regulators, the regulators don't have rules.
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They work to guidelines. And there are international guidelines. There's what's called
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the International Conference on Harmonization. You can look that up online. Huge organization.
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Thousands of people from companies all around the world contribute to the various committees. And
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it takes years to develop guidelines for specific topics. And there's basically hundreds of topics.
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And companies work to these guidelines. In Australia, we work to these guidelines. In the
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U.S., the U.K., everywhere in Canada, you work to these guidelines. These guidelines are amended
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from time to time in light of new knowledge. And this is why it would normally take something like
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it would normally take something like seven to ten years to bring a new drug to the market
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and cost billions and billions of dollars to conduct all the research to actually do it.
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Well, that was good for me because I was a consultant, right? And the harder the regulations
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became, the more important my job became. And a lot of companies came to me. In fact, I consulted
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for probably more than half of the multinationals in Australia for one reason or the other.
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So when this provisional approval system came about, and now it's being applied to many,
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many drugs, it's been a mechanism to get lots of drugs. I don't know what the statistics are
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right now in terms of the number of drugs that have adopted to choose that pathway.
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But it's a huge percentage of the applications are now going down the provisional approval pathway.
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And that is dangerous. That is very, very dangerous. There has to be a very good reason
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to do it. Now, I realized in the beginning, everyone was petrified. The propaganda about
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COVID-19 was everywhere. It was well organized and people were living in fear. And
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I could sort of appreciate how they used the provisional approval system for the COVID-19
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vaccines, but to claim that they were safe and efficacious when the data simply was not there.
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And any data that they submitted was really deficient, as we now know.
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Data was hidden. It's still being hidden. It was incomplete. And there have been serious,
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serious accusations of fraud, which we all know about. Given all that now, for the
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TGA here to not reflect and conduct an inquiry as to what's happened. And the government here
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promised a royal commission before they came to power. They promised a royal commission
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into COVID and the policies and everything else. Because we were one of the
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worst treated countries in the world. Daniel Andrews, whose statue will be going up shortly
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in Victoria, was responsible, the premier of the state of Victoria, for the longest lockdown
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in history. It was brutal. I mean, people were being shot at close range with a rubber gun.
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I mean, people were being shot at close range with rubber bullets.
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There were people in demonstrations that were hit with directed energy weapons that I had never
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seen the likes of before by a military in black uniforms without name tags. I mean,
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this came as a huge shock. So, you know, before COVID, I was quite a happy guy playing tennis
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and going out in my little boat. And the world was a great place. And it's just
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it's just turned my world upside down. I cannot believe what's happened. And you have to appreciate
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my perspective because to the average guy in the street, who now is seeing how wrong
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things are going, they have their perspective. But when you really know what should have been done
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like myself, and now I know what's been done and what's been going on in terms of the adverse
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drug reactions that have been reported around the world, you can imagine it's hit me like a cement
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truck. Yeah, I find it hard to believe. And it has to make me think that
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how could this happen? And did this happen by incompetence? And I thought in the beginning,
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maybe it was just fear and incompetence that was responsible for the mess that we're in.
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And I was thinking like that for, I don't recall exactly now, but maybe the first six months or
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seven months, I was just thinking, how could they be doing it? How could they be so incompetent?
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But now it's not incompetence.
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It's not incompetence because the facts are clear. And that is
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what has really upset me and depressed me. And it is really hard to come to grips with, Charles.
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It's just an unbelievable situation. Well, Philip, thank you so much for sharing
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what this impact has had on you. You have had a storied career and thank you for speaking honestly
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to us. Stephen, next 15 minutes is all yours. So I remember when you were last on Philip,
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that was about 18 months ago, was it? From memory? November 2022, I think. Yeah. Yeah. So nearly two
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years. So the way you deliver, I think you were less calm then almost two years ago than you are
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today. But the calm delivery actually is a good lesson for me that I need to kind of take some
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lessons from you. I agree with you about so the more outraged you are, the more likely you're
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kind of to raise your voice and, you know, start saying the usual things, everything's outrageous
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because actually you're lost for words. I understand what you're saying. So for me,
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everything was turned upside down in 2020, just as you've brilliantly described now.
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But I think that so I was telling someone only yesterday that I now and I've never said this
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before that I had been realizing that I was thinking of things prior to the spring of 2020,
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you know, so pre-COVID and post-COVID. So I've been dividing that without actually saying that
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to and yesterday I said it for the first time to a friend that I think of everything in terms of
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was it before 2020 or was it after? It's like the birth of Christ, you know,
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and that's how big it was for me what happened in 2020. So I think that people have been
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really affected by what happened in 2020. And so there are a lot of most people are,
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how shall I say, they're just reacting to events they don't understand and to some extent they
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don't care. But I'm thinking as a medical doctor have been thinking for a long time
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of the possibilities and so a medical doctor has to hypothesize what could be happening.
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You know, even in the realm of public health and my biggest concern, as far as public health is
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concerned, is after all this psychological torture, propaganda, intense propaganda,
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and censorship, people are not going to be normal after all this, even if it lasted for a few weeks,
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but it's been going on for four years now. And I think that you and I, for example,
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we knew that we had to do something. So we were very upset by what had happened,
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but we weren't upset in the same way as people who didn't understand. So I, for one, I don't know
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about you, Philip, but I thought that for a long time, I thought I was immune to the psychological
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torture from which everyone was suffering because I understood it. But actually, I didn't quite
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understand it as usual as human being, because I now realize that I was very driven about what I
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needed to do. I knew I had to do something. I didn't know what to do. And so I was very
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in a similar position. It took a while to take it in, the enormity of what we were seeing
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and the disbelief. But eventually, we realized that actually it was true. The whole world had
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been turned upside down, and they had the audacity to do what they did do. But I mentioned this
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because these videos are seen later, after this live meeting. So I think it's important to say,
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to create a record of our thoughts, and that's what we've done. So I knew I had to form a group.
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I didn't know why. I had no idea. But I now realize that we unwittingly, if you like,
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created a record. We haven't made too many mistakes. We haven't got a website,
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so nobody knows what we're doing. And that has its advantages. But we've got a wonderful
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understanding worldwide of what's been going on. I think now we're very privileged to have that
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understanding. And all the people on this group tonight are here twice a week. Some come and go,
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but I thank them for coming, because had they not come, then we wouldn't have created this platform.
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But anyway, the point is, Philip, I think your testimony is very, very powerful,
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not just about the regulatory authorities, the pharmaceutical. I just wanted to ask you,
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why do you think that it wasn't so much about why would they ruin their reputation? You know,
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the TGA in Australia and the FDA in America, why would these bodies ruin their reputations? Or
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is the point that they wanted to ruin the reputations of these bodies so they could
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drive anything through, for example, all the mRNA vaccines that they're now pushing through
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everywhere and nobody can keep track of at all? Do you think that the idea was to destroy the
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regulatory system? So we're wondering why they did it. How could they possibly do it? All those
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people that you know personally at the TGA, why were they doing all this? You're thinking to say,
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very confusing for you. But actually, unknown to each one of those, there was an agenda to destroy
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the regulatory agencies. That was the agenda. So in the UK at the moment, the parallel thing,
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you know, an analogy is that in the UK at the moment, nothing makes sense. And so you think
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to yourself, you're trying to find an explanation for why a socialist, allegedly socialist prime
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minister like Keir Starmer should come in. And the first thing he does is take the winter fuel
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allowance from pensioners. It just doesn't make sense. But that's the point. It doesn't make sense
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what the TGA did and the FDA. But that is what disturbs people, human beings, the very fact they're
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destabilizing human beings. That's the agenda. Destabilize so that nothing makes sense.
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So that they can control these people by destroying their humanity. That's what I think they're doing.
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Yeah, it's a good question. And I have thought about that. And I it's a question I don't think
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I can give you an answer for. And I'm very reluctant to pontificate about, you know,
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how people were thinking because you can't ever really determine or know how people were thinking.
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I mean, people said to me in the very beginning, and as we now know, this was a man-made virus.
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So 100% of the data supports that. Anyone that says that it's not doesn't know what they're
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talking about. There's actually not a scarik of data to say this came from a natural source.
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And people said, we're asking me, especially in the first year, well, you know, what was this
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man-made virus released on purpose? Well, I couldn't answer that because I just don't know.
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And my answer to them at the time and still is now is that I don't know. But what I do know
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is that they know the dangers of the virus. They know what is happening. And they know
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that they know the dangers of the virus. They know what has happened. And whether it was released
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by an individual or a laboratory as a planned release or just by mistake really
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almost doesn't matter now. What matters now is the damage that's being done. Let's focus on that.
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But it does matter a bit, Philip, because we need to know the motive to know how far they were
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prepared to go and how far they're still prepared to go. So they're pushing the next pandemic.
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So we need to hypothesize. So I can understand why you say, you know, you don't want to say this
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because there's no scientific proof or, you know, you can't prove it beyond reasonable doubt or
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beyond the balance of probabilities. But actually, we do need to think as human beings and trust our
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instincts and people like you and me and others on this call tonight, we really need to trust
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our instincts and we don't need proof before we start to investigate possibilities.
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Yeah. Well, this virus was produced by gain of function research.
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Well, we don't. I'm not convinced that that's true narrative. I think that could be
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a limited hangout. But anyway, go ahead. Okay. Well, that's my belief. And that type of research
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was outlawed under Obama. They got around it from what I've read. And that gain of function research
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is now the basis for the development of SARS-CoV-2. And that research
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is still ongoing in many parts of the world, including Australia. Knowing what we know,
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knowing that the huge disaster that this has produced, it's still ongoing.
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But Philip, we learned at medical school and I happen to remember it, although all the people
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I qualified with haven't remembered it apart from me. I just can't believe it. I remember
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a professor of immunology telling us that the deadly virus kills its host. Chris Witty at the
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COVID inquiry, Chris Witty is the chief medical officer of England still, I think, and he was in
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2020. And he said that he was talking about deadly viruses. And I thought, well, if Chris
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Witty is talking about deadly viruses to scare the population, he can't have it both ways.
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He may want to scare the British population still, but a deadly virus kills its host.
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And that means that it can't spread if it kills its host. So the point is that whether,
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in my opinion as a doctor, I'm allowed to have a medical opinion as a doctor,
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the gain of function research is a kind of limited hangout to push the narrative that
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future pandemics are possible. And I don't think they are. And also the gain of function research,
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I was very suspicious about the way they were saying, oh, it's very illegal, you know, in the
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United States, but they use taxpayers money in China. And some are other, nobody's responsible.
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And I'm thinking to myself, you know, and JJ Cooey to his great credit, I don't know whether he did
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it directly or whether I misinterpreted something that he said, but I started to think he, I thought,
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said something on the lines of, I don't believe that they can do what they say they can do.
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And I started to think, yeah, that would figure because actually, they don't need to be able to
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do what they say they can do. They just need to generate the fear. And what better way to generate
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the fear than to say that viruses could escape dangerous viruses, which have been created in
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labs could escape from labs, you know, anywhere in the world. And, you know, and that's what they
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were saying. So I thought, wow, whether JJ Cooey actually said that or whether he's I misinterpreted
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something that he said, but it got me thinking about, is it possible that they just want to scare
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people? And this was a brilliant way to scare them. You know, the whole concept of the whole
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narrative of endless pandemics in the future, you know, of great concern to humanity. I don't
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think it's true. I don't think there was a pandemic. I don't think that pandemics are possible.
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And because you've got this interplay between transmissibility and virulence. So if you've got
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a deadly or a very virulent virus, it can't transmit. And then it's certainly can't transmit
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all around the world. So I think the deadly, the gain of function research is a ploy to feed into
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the false narrative of endless pandemics in the future. And that is the point. I think for many,
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many years, they've been aiming for 2020 to push the button on a very dangerous pandemic.
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I think the pandemic notion is a fraud. Yeah. And that's what we need to protect.
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There's a lot there to unpack. So yeah, to begin with, there's lots of good research that has been
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done, especially in Australia, the so-called pandemic here was basically when you analyze
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the data, the real data was equivalent to a serious flu. And no more than that. So you're
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quite right about that. I take your point about the narrative about trying to scare people because
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fear was at the base of the propaganda. And when people are living in fear, they can't critically
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think. Even intelligent, well-educated people, and I know many of them couldn't even think,
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couldn't think their way through this. Especially then and maybe.
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Yeah. But just put in its simplest form, the creation, the design of the furan cleavage site
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1:00:27
in the virus was something, according to my understanding, and I'm not a genomic expert
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1:00:39
or a virologist, I have to declare, but that goal of creating heightened infectivity
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by inserting a furan cleavage site into the virus was something, as far as I am aware,
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that was designed. But- But did they do that? Do we know they did that?
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Well, well, look, I think so. Well, I'm wondering, you see, so-
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Yes, then. So I remember people saying they were looking into the spike protein, into the mRNA,
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the lipid nanoparticle. Stephanie Sennett was one of them, and there was some other as well,
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and I asked both of them the question, but how do we know this? And, you know, I think Stephanie
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Sennett is absolutely brilliant. The only thing- Well, I won't say that. So, but the point was
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that I realized I didn't think that she knew herself how we knew that these things were in
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the injections, you know, and certainly not in all of them, and in which countries, you know,
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and what percentage. So, and the answer was, eventually, she wouldn't answer. You can look at
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the recording. It's still up there. So Charles has kind of- or his wife has kindly put them up,
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and you can look at Stephanie Sennett's thing, and you can see, and she said,
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well, they told us that they put- I said, but who is they? And she said, the CDC, I think I'm right
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in saying the CDC, and the FDA. And I said, but there are enemies at the moment. And then Stephanie,
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she's brilliant, but she kind of accepted what it seemed to me. And then she said,
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well, let's take the other questions. So she didn't like my questions. You can watch it.
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I'm not criticizing her. I'm just saying a lot of people made assumptions, or still make assumptions,
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which surprised me, because they should start at the bottom, you know, how do we know this?
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You just said something then, and I said, what was it? The Furing cleavage site, yes, famous
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Furing. Yeah, how do we know that that's there? Well, I mean, I listened to David Martin,
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Dr. David Martin, and- Oh, he doesn't like me.
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And no, I can imagine that. But look, I do take notice of the patents that he refers to,
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that are published, that are well known. The other point that, just to come back to your point,
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which actually supports what you're saying, is that every level for biotech,
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biowarfare lab in the world has leaked at one time or the other, right? There's no,
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there's no, to use that word, safe level for biotech lab. They all leak. So that fits into
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the narrative that you are suggesting. I don't think they're capable of any of it,
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because a deadly virus kills its host, whether it's a naturally occurring virus or naturally
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produced, or whether it's being produced in the lab by the biggest, most evil person in the world.
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Yeah. You know, it's still the same, but people, the perception in the public is that,
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oh, if it comes from a lab and it's leaked out, oh my God, we're in trouble. And by the way,
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there are labs in Chester, in North Wales, you know, where it's sunk. And this is what they want
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people to believe. So Chris Witty, I caught him talking about deadly viruses. I'm thinking a
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deadly virus kills its host. It's never going to spread around the world, which is why all these,
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you know, the African viruses, alleged viruses, if we believe in viruses, are so feared, but
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they're nothing to fear because they're going to keep very local because they kill their host. And
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even if they're just dangerous, you know, it's on a kind of spectrum, if you like.
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Yeah. Actually, that name Chris Witty, Sir Chris Witty, I think.
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1:05:31
Professor Sir Chris Witty. Yeah, but he can't get a woman, he's not married,
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and he's not homosexual apparently. So what else is there?
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So I've mentioned him a couple times in some of my affidavits because
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when the government here and the US FDA were saying that Ivermectin was toxic horse paste,
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1:06:09
right? We've all seen the famous tweet from the US FDA, and that was echoed here
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a number of times. Chris Witty was on record 10 years prior to that saying that Ivermectin
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was really a relatively safe drug. He was commenting on something else, and you can actually
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go and see some of his quotes. And he was singing about how safe Ivermectin was, right? So I've used
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that in some of my affidavits. But let me say that, because you've said a lot of things, but
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COVID has an upside. It's a strange thing to say. But my favorite saying
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1:07:12
of all time is every problem is an opportunity. You just have to look at it a little bit differently,
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1:07:28
right? Absolutely. What's the opportunity here? Well, the opportunity for me was that I was
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paddling along in my Matrix world, seeing things that weren't disagreeable with me.
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Life was pretty good. But from my perspective, seeing the truth, and I think I'm seeing it for
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what it really is, because I've spent my whole life specifically in this area,
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seeing the lies that were perpetrated on the public repeatedly, not by a handful of individuals,
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but organized worldwide in an orchestrated way, in a military fashion, with military precision
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1:08:41
and effectiveness, perpetrated on the whole world, doing immense damage. It made me wake up and
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start to think, my God, what else is going wrong here? Is this the first thing? Or is this just the
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first thing that I've noticed? And it's inescapable. My conclusion is inescapable. It's the first thing
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that I've noticed. And now I'm beginning to think. Sorry, so Philip, I don't know about you,
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1:09:20
but I'm now wondering whether we ever got to the moon. And I read a tweet today, which pointed out
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that we can't even get 400 miles away from the Earth now. But in 1969, we allegedly got to the
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1:09:33
moon 240,000 miles away, which is nothing, of course, by the standards of the universe. But
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anyway. Yeah. Well, there is a problem there in that obviously we've been
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sold upon on many occasions. You know, how our war started and
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sure, there's been some mass destruction and various political assassinations and
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1:10:16
Russiagate and all sorts of things. We're all, I think, coming to realize that the media is
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highly controlled and cannot be trusted and should never have been trusted for many decades.
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1:10:32
And what's happened to medicine, what we're seeing now is just the culmination
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1:10:44
of a grand plan, which has been in effect for many decades. And that's the realization.
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1:10:54
Unfortunately, so many people cannot come to grips with that. From an emotional point of view,
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1:11:01
they're so invested in their career and what they've been doing their whole life.
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It's from a psychological, from an emotional point of view, they can't face it.
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1:11:19
Exactly. I have friends, I have friends, close friends who know what I do or basically know what
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I do, know my position and have been jabbed and injured. And they don't even, when we're on the
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1:11:41
tennis court, they don't even raise the issue. No, exactly. It's weird. So I've got friends as well.
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It is so weird. It does my head in. Yes. And I look, look,
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I have to say to you that throughout my life, you know, I
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1:12:11
was interested in academic stuff and everything else. But I was within the pharmaceutical industry,
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you know, really a backroom guy, right? You would never hear from a person like me. My worst
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fear in life, my absolutely worst fear in life was public speaking.
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1:12:35
Me. When I had my consultancy, you know, I knew my stuff
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1:12:44
and I was the go-to guy in Australia as a pharmaceutical consultant for many years.
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1:12:52
But I could have promoted my business and gone to meetings and stood up and said,
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1:13:03
I was petrified. Me too. And here I am speaking with all these people. I speak with sometimes
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1:13:13
hundreds of people at a time now. I've actually had to force myself to do it.
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And me too. Philip, I absolutely, and people like us need to find their courage and do exactly
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what you've done and what I've tried to do. You're such a calm speaker, Philip. You are able to take
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1:13:33
human beings with you. I'm a little bit more excitable and I'm not too diplomatic sometimes.
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1:13:40
And I just get it wrong. I have good intentions, but I just get frustrated when people don't want
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to hear. Well, actually, I'll be honest with you. I have to say what my truth is, even to my friends
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1:13:53
who don't want to hear it. I know they don't want to hear it. I have to say it because it's the only
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way I know to hang on to my identity and my humanity. And I knew that was slipping away from
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1:14:08
me in 2020 and 2021. Well, no, I didn't actually. But in 2022, I suddenly realized that I was
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created in response to this. I hated seeing the masks. So I stopped going out to see the masks.
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I created my own world and I thought, well, I'm not scared of this, you know. And but then I
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realized actually the worst thing you can do to human beings is isolate them. And of course, the
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1:14:37
lockdowns are about isolation. And that was pure evil in my head. So every day, I was in a state
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1:14:44
so every doctor in the world should have been demanding to know what was in the in the injections.
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1:14:50
We don't even know now what's in the injections. And every doctor in the world should have known
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1:14:59
that human beings are highly social animals and should never ever be isolated. Therefore,
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1:15:07
lockdowns can never be justified. And in the United Kingdom now, in September 2024,
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1:15:13
they're still saying the essential message to come out of the COVID inquiry in the United Kingdom
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1:15:24
is that millions of people of all ages were let down by the government's response to COVID.
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1:15:32
We got it wrong. We got the lockdowns too late or not, not harsh enough. And we need to do better
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next time. So we need to push back because the United Kingdom, even though it's not militarily
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1:15:45
very powerful these days, it still has huge influence, which it doesn't deserve, in my opinion,
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1:15:50
at the moment, the way people are educated here. But it still has a lot of influence. It's got the
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1:16:00
language. And it has credibility that the US lacks and even Australia lacks. So we know that
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1:16:08
the UK is the belly of the beast. I think there's so much, Philip, I could talk to you about it.
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1:16:13
But I think we've said enough. I think we've said enough. We've sown the seeds. So people, hopefully.
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1:16:18
Yeah. Look, I appreciate your comments.
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1:16:24
Why am I doing this?
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At my age, I could have a much more comfortable life.
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1:16:37
Absolutely.
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Not doing this.
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1:16:43
Thank you for doing it, Philip. All of us think that.
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1:16:57
But having said that, I haven't had to pay a personal price for doing this. I just had to
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1:17:06
satisfy my own conscience that I was doing the right thing. And of course, I care about my kids
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1:17:10
and my grandkids. It's about them and about me.
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1:17:23
How can this go on? And there is a plan. I'm convinced that this is going to get worse,
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1:17:36
that the powers that be are planning. They've used the playbook here and it's going to be extended
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1:17:39
and that's what the UN is up to right now as we speak.
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1:17:46
Absolutely. So, Philip, I think the most helpful way for people like you to think is possibly to
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1:17:56
think of COVID, the climate change nonsense, the Ukraine War, the pipeline explosion, a thermonuclear
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1:18:03
explosion in the center of Europe and everybody looks the other way, amazingly. I think that these
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1:18:08
are Trojan horses for totalitarianism. They're trying to create chaos. They're trying,
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1:18:15
in particular, in my opinion, nothing makes sense and they are aiming for nothing to make sense,
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1:18:23
which is, and the public in the UK are incredibly confused and behaving like children, I have to say.
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1:18:28
But thank you so, I wanted to ask you, you're American, aren't you, Philip?
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1:18:36
Yes, I do have dual passports. I came to Australia when I was 16 years of age. So,
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I lived most of my life in Sydney. We just recently moved just south of Sydney.
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1:18:49
But I've spent just about all my life in Australia.
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1:18:53
But did you come from Kansas? Was it Kansas or Tennessee?
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No, no, from Seattle.
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1:19:03
Ah, Washington state, no. Okay. And I just wanted to ask you, sorry, these questions have gone on
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rather long, but I think it's very important what you're saying. You mentioned Russiagate.
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1:19:14
I just wanted to tell you that there is someone still, yes, on the call, Dr. Jerome Corsi,
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who stopped Russiagate. He stopped the Mueller investigation. They offered him a plea deal to
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go along with the narrative, you know. And if he accepted the plea deal, federal indictment,
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1:19:32
this was threatened, he would go to the prison. He wouldn't go to prison if he accepted the plea
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1:19:39
deal. But if he didn't accept the plea deal, oh, here he is, Jerome Corsi. So, he's absolutely
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brilliant. He said to them, I will not lie before God, even if I have to go to prison for the
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rest of my life. And guess what, Philip? They didn't indict him. Isn't that a brilliant story?
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1:20:09
But also, he's at the center of Dr. Andrew Paquette's incredible research on the election
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1:20:14
fraud in the United States and other countries around the world, including UK and France,
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1:20:20
and probably Australia. Jerome, do you want to say a few words or not?
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1:20:24
Yes, well, thank you. I mean, I've been listening to the conversation. It's been fascinating.
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And I agree entirely that I did resist going to, I would not take the plea deal
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because I could not lie. And it did not indict me. And that closed the Mueller investigation.
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I think it takes that level of resistance to put these people to stop this. But it is global.
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I also, it's interesting. This year, I published a book with David Mantek on the Kennedy assassination,
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which has done quite well, but it has the optical density measurements of the x-rays. Dr. Mantek is
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a radiation oncologist. And the three x-rays that are in the archives have all been altered
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to erase evidence of frontal shots. But yeah, you can see two frontal shots. One hit Jack Kennedy
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in the temporal bone on the right-hand side of his head and blew out the back of his head. You
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can see clearly the entrance wound. Another bullet hit at the forehead at the hairline.
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You can see the fragments of the bullet breaking up across the top of his head
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with the largest fragment at the back and not exiting. So the book has been very well received.
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But it shows over 61 years, the CIA, the government has been lying about this
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and getting away with it and with the open cooperation of the mainstream media.
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So I think worldwide, we're realizing the power of the intelligence agencies. And now
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with what Dr. Andrew Paquette has found, which he's found algorithms in the official state
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databases, voter registration databases in the United States, that are intelligence agency quality
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that allow for the creation of non-existent voters to get valid state IDs and to be put into the
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database as potential mail-in ballots that can be called upon by the perpetrators of this scheme
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to cast a mail-in ballot, which then has a valid state ID number and that will show a valid
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going through the tabulation is valid. That vote will certify even though the voter doesn't exist.
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And we're finding these algorithms in many states. So the state databases and the states don't seem
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to know this or are acknowledging, not acknowledging that they know it, but our databases in the United
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States are filled with double records, clones, records that don't have a registration date or
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have a registration date before somebody was born. I mean, our voter roles in the United States are
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intentionally a disgrace and are filled with non-existent voters or people with multiple
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registrations. And as we're writing about this, there's a website we've dedicated to it, which is
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God's Five Stones. That's G-O-D-S. It's spelled the word F-I-V-E-5 and S-T-O-N-E-S, plural, dot com.
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And we're posting a lot of information on this and we'll be posting more in October,
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but it is absolutely clear that the elections since 2007 when these algorithms first started
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appearing, I don't know how many legitimate elections we've had or how many people have been
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put into office by utilizing these algorithms and they appear to be worldwide. So in the EU,
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the voting follows the pattern that the first ballot for the EU commission, the conservatives
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do very well. The second ballot, they say the left woke up and is surging. Of course, the left wins
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in the second ballot, but you call up Europe, which I did, and there's no surge in the polls.
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They said, Dr. Corsi, the surge is in the computers. So I don't know that we've had fair elections
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worldwide going back now 15, 16 years or going back maybe 18 years. And the intelligence agencies,
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I think, are now running our elections. And so that's a very frightening thought.
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So you just said something there, Jerome. You said the surge is in the computers,
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a bit like the virus is in the computers.
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Right. The control of-
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Crazy, isn't it? So computers are the enemy.
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Well, the computer data, which can be rigged or falsified or manipulated,
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is key to a lot of the government control and the censorship that goes along with it.
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If you dare to oppose it or if you dare to criticize it, you're risking your freedom.
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These are issues that I think we're beginning to be aware of them worldwide.
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1:26:01
Jerome, can I just take a minute to ask you something that's really important? Because
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we've got this election coming up on the 5th of November. A lot of people on our side, as you
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know, they doubt that Trump can do much to help humanity. I prefer to be hopeful. We have to have
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some hope about something. And one of the things I hope is that Trump will do 50% maybe of what he
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says he will. But I'm so afraid that human beings, you know, when someone's dying, the family,
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even, or at least all the family, understand what's happening. And then when, you know,
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it's obvious when you kind of look at it coldly that the patient's going to die, but the family
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is surprised when the patient does die, even though they're half their body weight, you know,
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by the time they're not all people, but some people. So what I'm worried about, really worried
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about is I remember that election night in 2020. And I went to bed thinking Trump's won. And then
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I woke up in the morning, I was stunned that he hadn't won. And so I think that was election
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fraud. People say, Oh, Trump's crazy, you know, he's claiming that he lost, he didn't never lost
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the election. I don't think he did lose the election. But guess what, Jerome, we've got this
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information now about Andrew Paquette. You kind of made the information from Andrew Paquette
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palatable to the public, you're able to explain it in a way that people understand. But my concern
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is, and I know I've been trying to nail you down on this for weeks now. I'm concerned that we,
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the people who need to know about this, i.e. Trump's team, and RFK Jr. and all the rest of them,
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Tulsi Gabbard, and whoever, all the people who, they're just hoping that the gap between Trump
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and this crazy woman from Hawaii, I think originally, isn't she? Kamala?
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I think she comes from Canada originally, but I mean, it's a complicated personal story.
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So I'm just worried that everybody's hoping that the gap is so large, you know, that it's much
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bigger than the media portraying. But of course, you and I know the reason why they have the gap
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small officially in the media, so that actually, it's more plausible that she has beaten Trump,
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you know? Listening to her, I don't think any human being is, you know, okay, maybe
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a few of them on the Democrat side are going to be impressed with her. She doesn't even make sense.
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There's no way that she can be anywhere near Trump. But obviously, there's so much
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negative propaganda about Trump. But what I'm trying to say, Jerome, we know that there is a
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strong likelihood, well, there's proof that there's been election fraud in the United States and in
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other countries. And has that got to Trump's team and all the people who should know about it?
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Because it's no use messing about now. We're going to wake up on November the 6th, and maybe the same
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thing again. Oh, Kamala won, very surprisingly, but she won, and it was on the computer. It wasn't in
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the votes. And then we'll be kicking ourselves that we didn't make more noise about it before.
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I think that increasingly, the Trump team does know about it, and that they are aware of it.
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There's a lot more going on in the United States right now to get,
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to have these elections monitored, and a lot more preparation for challenging these elections,
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so that they're not going to be able to certify them as quickly as they want to.
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In other words, I think in states where there are algorithms, if they vote for Kamala,
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we'll immediately go in and file suits to challenge that there were irregularities that have to be
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checked. And we'll press for that. Now, I don't think they're going to get away with it as quickly
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this time as they did the last time, because it's the same thing with magic tricks. Once you've
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seen the misdirection, you know how the trick is done. It's all perception that this is going to be
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caught and seen much more easily this time, and there's a lot more people who are ready to pounce
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on it. But why are the elections allowed to go on, Jerome? If you think that the election fraud
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has been proved, and Andrew Paquette thinks that too, and there's an algorithm there which
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shouldn't be there, why isn't the whole of America alerted to this? Because it's no use
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1:31:12
arguing after the event, after the election has taken place, and Trump has lost. And then you go
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into courts and judges who lack courage, who will just find in favor of the new president.
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This scheme is so far advanced, it's hard to stop. It's like it would be hard to stop another
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pandemic if it came along, and we had the same rerun, especially if there was a more
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lethal pathogenic effect, if more people were dying, and you'd have the same psychological
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reaction you did before from the populace in general. So I mean, these things are very
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difficult to stop or turn back. I think it's just a matter of increasing awareness, which is
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increasing and making it harder at this point for the fraud to occur.
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1:32:04
So Jerome, why don't you get yourself interviewed by Tucker Carlson and people who can
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spread the message? Because I don't think many people in America know about this.
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We've tried repeatedly to get in front of Tucker Carlson, and people have spoken to him about the
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algorithms. People have spoken to Elon Musk about the algorithms. Many of these people themselves
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are concerned about retaliation, and they're concerned that they will be charged with
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crimes or misinformation or censored. Even Elon Musk, I think, is concerned about retaliation.
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With the Justice Department largely in control of the criminals, largely in control of political
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we've lost control of our justice system. Our justice system is 100% political. It's just a
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matter of fighting this into realizing that it's so far advanced that I don't know if there is an
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immediate solution. Like stopping the election is not going to happen, and so therefore the
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algorithms are going to get used. Well, putting out our side of the story, our propaganda,
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if you like, in the face of all their propaganda, it seems to be very reasonable to me, but I don't
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hear anything. Well, it's taking hold with millions of people, and it is making an impact.
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But again, it's like the awakening is going to take time because people are seeing.
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I think Kamala Harris is so tremendously unpopular, and I do think that there will be
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a surge from Trump that's going to make it harder for them to steal because we've revealed the
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algorithms and people are aware of them now. It's going to be harder for them to be used,
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1:34:04
and be harder for them to be used successfully. I think challenges to it will be more prepared
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1:34:10
in advance before elections get certified. There was just a judgmental decision, I believe,
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in Arizona just this past week that an election could not be certified if there were challenges
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1:34:25
to it, that were legitimate challenges to voter fraud. And there's going to be a lot of challenges
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to voter fraud if what happens in 2020 begins to happen again in 2024. So I don't think it's going
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to go unchallenged. I don't think. Yes, but eventually, whoever wins the election, so in
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this case, the fear is that Kamala will win it. This Chinese totalitarian, she is going to win it,
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and it's going to be extremely difficult to turn over an election in the United States.
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1:35:01
It's the same kind of thing. If they try another pandemic again, there's again millions of people
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who are aware of it. They're not being successful getting these jabs taken, increased by all the
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jabs for... Let me call you right back. All these jabs that are coming on now for
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boosters are not being taken. So there's a fundamentally different awareness now
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that the pandemic, the vaccines are killing people, and there's increasing awareness of it,
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I believe. More so than there was in two years ago. Okay. So anyway, I bet it not. So we have to
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respect the guest. I wanted to announce that we have Meredith Miller, we have offered a contract
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to her for publishing, and I am setting up being able to publish books now in Europe as well.
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So we're going to have an acquiring editor in Europe that will be working with me
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to get European contracts for books, as well as to publish in the United States, first published
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in the United States, as well as in American authors. So I've made an advancement on that,
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and I will be able this week to, I believe, appoint someone who will be an acquiring editor
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working with me in Europe, will be able to work directly with European authors. So I have advanced
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that. Well, Philip, I think maybe a candidate for you, Jerome. It could well be. A wonderful
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storyteller. Could well be. I would be very interested in as a compilation of these stories
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1:36:50
from around the world of resistance. Absolutely. Yeah, that'd be great. Philip could edit it,
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but we could have a whole group of people from the different countries
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1:37:00
talk about resistance and what they've faced. But I'm going to have to also beg off now. I have a
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podcast coming up very quickly. I've very much enjoyed listening. Thank you, Philip, for
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I've been listening for the entire time, and it's been compelling.
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Yeah, thank you so much, Jerome. JJ Cooey, tomorrow night, Jerome. And he quoted,
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we don't even want to get very excited. Unquote. So if JJ Cooey is excited,
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that's going to be something else tomorrow. I think. Is it tomorrow? Yeah. Oh, no, not tomorrow.
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The day after. Sorry. Tuesday. Tuesday. Yes, Tuesday. OK. Yeah. Thank you very much. I'll
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plan to be in attendance. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yes. So John Lukacs, sorry to be so
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long, John. And there was Daria and then there was someone else as well, but the hands gone down.
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Who was that? Does anyone remember?
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John, you there? Yeah, I'm ready. Who was the third person? Can you remember, John?
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There was someone. Anyway, hopefully they'll remember.
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I think it was Anders Brunstad. Yes. Thank you, Jeremy. Thank you. It was. Yeah.
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Go ahead, John. Philip, are we ready to do something? I've got something for you.
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I've been passing it out gratuitously. And I'll put it in the chat for you. OK.
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I've written two articles on this. I'll just let you take those in. But this is the key.
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This is what they suppressed. It's a pattern. The pattern of anaphylaxis is just not well understood.
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It's conflated with allergy. It's its own thing. And it's immutable. Charles Richet
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is the key to this whole thing. This is a bulletproof argument. And it leads everywhere you want it to.
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All the things that people are talking about, all the systemic disease that's going on,
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the allergies that are creeping in everywhere, this is due to an anaphylactic pattern. So if you just
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get well versed with that, it's your whole argument. The whole house of cards goes down with this.
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So I've been trying to get people to notice this. And Sasha Ladoeva and Katherine Watt just noticed
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it. It's been a couple of years since I wrote a whole book on it. I'm going to give you that book.
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1:40:08
And so the other thing is just I'd like to talk with you offline a little bit about some things
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that I'm working on or have been working on. I'll throw them into the chat just to,
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you know, since you're an expert on clinical studies and things like that,
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I'd like to know your opinion on this if you have one. That is a clinical study on cancer
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and something I've been trying to repeat. And then I have some other things. But if it would
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be possible, if you think you'd have the time maybe to have an offline conversation.
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Sure, sure. That's fine. I'll put in...
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Where are you? Where did you go? Charles knows my email.
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There's mine. Drop me a line where we can work something out.
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Oh, I see. I see. John.
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I can send it to you now.
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Philip, did I have the correct email address for you, Philip? Or did I have
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your second email address? I can't quite remember. So
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without giving it if you don't want to give it, can you just remind me what's before the at?
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Yeah, this is Stephen speaking.
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Yes, it's me. Sorry. Yes. Sorry.
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Let me just put it in.
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Excellent.
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There. It's just gone off to Stephen Frost. So yeah, that's interesting. So
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there's been a lot of dissecting of the adverse drug reaction data.
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Some of the stuff that I've really found very interesting was... It's hard to get,
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hard to get, but it's been analyzed by some people of Rose... Jessica Rose.
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She's Canadian.
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Jessica Rose.
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1:43:08
By Jessica Rose. About the time course of events of the deaths, of the sudden deaths,
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whether sudden deaths and there's more long-term deaths. So I think you have to look at them a
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little bit differently. The things that are causing sudden death, and by that I'm referring to...
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It's Jessica Rose.
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The things that are causing sudden death to me as a pharmacologist are probably
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quite different to the things that are causing the long-term death. And you're referring to
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the anaphylactic reactions. Now, I listen very closely to a colleague of mine who we've both
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presented in Parliament House here in Canberra about the safety or lack thereof of the vaccines.
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And that fellow is Dr. Jeff Payne. G-E-O-F-F Payne. He's a real expert on endotoxins.
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And he's of the opinion. And if you read his substack, if you go into his substack,
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he's very active. He talks about the level of endotoxins. Now, endotoxins are
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white for white, one of the most dangerous substances known to man. And endotoxins are
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impurities in some pharmaceuticals, in the vaccines. They are in the vaccines,
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and they do have a limit. It's an arbitrary limit. And as we all know, the process
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that these vaccines were made by for the initial vaccines that were used in the trials,
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for most of the trials, was different to the manufacturing process used to produce
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vaccines for the world market. And a lot of that
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wasn't disclosed and is still a bit of a mystery. The drug regulators,
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when it was reported that there were high endotoxin levels in the vaccines in certain batches,
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arbitrarily raised the level of endotoxins in the vaccines.
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The release limits for endotoxin that was done in Australia. Now, the data to support that,
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I believe, was non-existent. And this is very dangerous because endotoxins can kill you instantly.
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Can I interrupt you for a moment? It's not endotoxins necessarily, very broad term.
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It is a protein. Any protein that's parentally administered.
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I understand. Yeah. What I'm saying to you is that, yeah, you could be very, very right. It could be
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just a protein. But I think the other thing that needs to be looked at, and Jeff Payne has convinced
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me of this, if you read his sub stacks, is that the endotoxin issue is a real issue as well.
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1:47:15
It could be in addition to what you were thinking about.
899
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Yeah. Well, that's a very measured response, Philip. The great thing about you is you don't
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reject what people say when it's new to you or maybe new to you. You actually take it on
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board and consider it. So that's great. Yeah. Look, I've learned in this space,
902
1:47:44
1:47:55
there's so much noise and so much that I really hate to use the word misinformation or
903
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1:48:04
disinformation. One has to be very, very careful. A lot of people do listen to what I say, and
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1:48:14
they have lots of opinions, right? And I think we're going to get there in the end if we're
905
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sure and steady. Absolutely. So I think, Philip, I think you're very humble. You're very humble,
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and that is required in these very uncertain times, in my opinion. I don't understand why
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so many people are so certain about what they think about whatever, you know, everything.
908
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1:48:42
Here's what I'm certain about. Two guys got a Nobel Prize for opposing theories that cannot
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1:48:51
both be true. All right. So Charles Rochet got his in 1913 for documenting this anaphylactic pattern.
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1:48:51
1:48:58
Drew Weissman got his last year, okay, for saying something completely opposite. Wow.
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1:49:08
Who's right? Well, you look at the language. You know, what the, I've got it written down somewhere,
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what his Nobel was awarded for was a safe and effective mRNA protein shot.
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1:49:29
He's not, I mean, it's news speak, so anybody can go back and take that away from him.
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I'm challenging doctors, everyone that I come across, to go and do it,
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because he can't reproduce, he can't prove that. It's a malicious statement.
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A malicious statement.
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You see, it's a fallback position. They're going to say that Charles Rochet was wrong, or
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Drew was right, or, oh, we just don't have enough studies, you know, I mean, it's crap.
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1:50:07
So how does the Nobel committee justify, okay, there's 100 years between them, is that right?
920
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1:50:08
More than 100 years.
921
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1:50:15
Yeah, it's called this, you know, enough of these makes the world go around, Steven. I mean,
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everybody's bought and paid for, you know, this.
923
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Well, yeah, but it's not just about money.
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Well, it kind of is. I mean, you know, it's, it's, it's, perhaps, right? I mean, look, we're,
925
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1:50:36
we're devolving here in the US into an extreme version of oligarchy.
926
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1:50:45
Go read politics by Aristotle. It's a one-way street, okay? The corruption creeps into the
927
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1:50:52
democracy and the rich basically run things out of their own self-interest instead of for the common
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1:51:02
good. It's going to collapse. It's an unstable, evil twin of aristocracy, basically, or polity.
929
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They all devolve into oligarchy and then they fail. They're going to wreck everything. That's
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what they're doing. Yeah. So you don't do it by voting. They've already got that covered. I mean,
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yeah. So it seems to me, Philip, that times have to get worse before they get better.
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But even then, when everybody's in a state of Stockholm syndrome or a large
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1:51:39
percentage of the population in a state of Stockholm syndrome, even those people who seem
934
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1:51:47
to be functioning reasonably well, and then you've got mind control, you know, if we're seeing
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everything through the lens of mind control, including the people on this call, then there
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isn't. It seems to be difficult to sort anything out. But having said that, maybe it doesn't all
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depend on logic. So I think human beings, when they're faced with a threat, they kind of get
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together and work things out. And eventually, the empire fails or the country fails, or there's a
939
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revolution and nobody knows where it came from. The historians come along and tell us that this
940
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1:52:26
happened because of that. But was that the reason? Anyway, let's go on to the next. So Daria is next
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and Daria, I think I'm right in saying has discovered a god or rediscovered god in the last
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four years. Well, I say I got a lot closer. I don't think I ever, you know, it feels like a
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1:52:48
comet, you know, I was really close to the sun, you know, when I was growing up, then about the
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time I was 20. Actually, before that around time I was 14, I just went into the world, I worked on
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1:53:08
Sundays, you know, I stopped observing. And in 20 ended well through 2020 to 2021. With all the
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1:53:17
madness going on. Somehow I got sort of drawn back in and found myself praying the rosary again,
947
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1:53:22
taught myself how to pray it in Latin. Three months later, I found a Latin mass church and I
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have been faithfully attending ever since and studying a lot of theology, which is
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not something I expected I'd ever do. But there are so many important concepts from a philosophical
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standpoint that are consistent with proper spirituality, if you want to call it that.
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1:53:49
Daria is a neurosurgeon, Philip. She has the background, she is a neurosurgeon.
952
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1:53:55
So well, last time Philip was on, he and I talked about my experience in pharmacy too,
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because I'm a licensed pharmacist. And when I was in college, I actually worked at Eli Lilly. So I
954
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at that time, I was in the environmental analysis, environmental waste analysis lab,
955
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1:54:11
and quality control was everything. You had to be accurate about what you did, especially since our
956
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test results were sent to the EPA. And so it was a company that really had high standards back then.
957
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And that was in up through 19, how long was I there until I went to Indianapolis? No? Up through
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1983, when I graduated pharmacy school and went to med school. So that's when I was working there,
959
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1:54:42
when I was in college. But Philip, I wanted to say thank you from the pharmacological angle,
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especially having had so much emphasis on scientific method in my undergrad. I worked with
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Dr. David Nichols, who was a medicinal chemist who worked on psychotropic medication research,
962
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1:55:04
especially looking at hallucinogens. So I worked with him. And again, that scientific method
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1:55:12
discipline, you can't deviate from it and expect to answer any questions. So it was the same thing
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when I saw these peculiar comments coming out of regulators that it's safe and effective. It's like,
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1:55:26
where's the evidence? And even before the vaccine was released, or I don't want to call it a vaccine,
966
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from Pfizer, I looked up the Pfizer white paper on their mRNA shots. And I did that before they were
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1:55:41
released, because that information was available. And I'm like, Whoa, this is not good. The genetic
968
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side of it was not a good sign. And then when I looked into the studies and how superficial a lot
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of information was, and even in their own white paper, Pfizer said, this has not been studied in
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pregnant women. So what happens? Oh, it's, they're pushing it into pregnant women left and right.
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It's literally ridiculous, you know, to see what happened. And so that complete abandonment of
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scientific discipline and integrity, it betrayed all of us, Philip, you know, betrayed us in
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the pharmacy world, it betrayed us in the medical world. And I know people spoke up. And a lot of
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1:56:30
them, one of the people that probably was on the inside was Kerry Mullis, who got, I believe it was
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1:56:40
the Nobel Prize for his PCR testing research. No, no, he won the PCR technique. The technique. Thank
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you. Yeah, yeah, research in the technique. He was going around saying that under no circumstances,
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should his technique be used as the basis for a diagnostic test for a viral illness.
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1:57:04
And that probably cost him his life. August 2019. Right. Again, ahead of the game. So Philip,
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you're right. This, I do believe with you that a lot of this occult work was being done prior to
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getting sprung on the planet and all the people. And then they were all blindsided by the catastrophic,
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I'll call it Mockingbird media, parroting whatever the government told them to say about this horrible
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pandemic that wasn't. And we've had many discussions on that in the past. But as you were speaking,
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it occurred to me that at least part of the possibility of people not speaking up,
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besides signing non-disclosure agreements, maybe being subtly threatened or coerced or extorted in
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1:57:52
some way, people working in these research labs all over had to keep a lid on it for a number of
986
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1:58:02
reasons. But conversely, what is the possibility that it was compartmentalized? In other words,
987
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like the Manhattan Project was, nobody knew, except maybe Oppenheimer, that there was all this work,
988
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1:58:15
this body of work on the Manhattan Project for a nuclear bomb was done all over the country,
989
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1:58:22
possibly outside of the USA as well. But the different areas where this was being worked on
990
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1:58:28
were all separated. So no individual researcher knew that their work was going to be applied to
991
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1:58:35
this deadly end. And I'm wondering if a similar Manhattan type project is feasible for something
992
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1:58:46
like this to come together with first the pseudo plague being the COVID-19 infection, supposedly,
993
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1:58:51
which was a coronavirus. I'm like, it's a cold virus. What the hell's going on? And people were
994
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1:58:59
freaking out. And then it was all to create the hype, eliminating our access to actual
995
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1:59:05
effective medicine, which would have precluded the ability for the pharmaceutical regulators to
996
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1:59:14
clear this experimental shot for use, because it couldn't be cleared based on the rules,
997
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1:59:20
if there were effective alternative treatments. So people like Dr. Zelenko from day one was using
998
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1:59:25
his effective alternative treatments that he used for years without question on his blue patients
999
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1:59:30
and everyone else. And guess what? They did well. Very few people died. Some people were immune
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compromised and higher susceptibility with advanced age and multiple medical problems
1001
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1:59:42
did not survive, but they too would not have survived the flu. And the other thing that
1002
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1:59:53
suggests this deception is that sort of smashing of the effective alternative treatments that were
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2:00:00
being deployed in 2020 and being discredited and have been called fake news. And then you throw in
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2:00:06
all the censorship that happened and people were shut down that were trying to speak the truth
1005
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2:00:13
and others were just persecuted. But do you think it is possible? This is my question, that
1006
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2:00:22
this type of compartmentalization may have happened where people of ethical goodwill
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2:00:31
were not aware that it got this bad. And then you look at someone like, I went back and looked up
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2:00:40
how early was Dr. Malone publishing on mRNA and it was 1985 and he was researching
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2:00:47
mRNA technology and I don't know if they called it vaccines back then, but studying these
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2:00:52
effects on cancer cells. And I believe his initial research from looking at his old papers going back
1011
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2:01:04
to 1985 was to look at cancer and possibly a way to treat cancer. But that's not billions of people
1012
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2:01:11
around the planet. It was supposed to target a small group of people to try and intervene so
1013
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2:01:20
they can get rid of their cancer with the immune system. And again, his work was obviously further
1014
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2:01:26
expanded and he did eventually speak up. People have different thoughts about Dr. Malone, but at
1015
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2:01:36
least he's got a paper trail. He has a research scientific publication paper trail. So if a lot of
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2:01:43
people of good integrity were not deceived, bought off, threatened, were they possibly
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2:01:47
just compartmentalized? What do you think of that? Thanks.
1018
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2:02:00
Right, right. Good question. Good question. There's a person online here, Dr. Jerry Brady,
1019
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2:02:11
who could answer that question as well. Jerry and I published, as well as with some other people,
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2:02:24
a paper in early, in January 2023 in the Brownstone Institute, if you want to look it up.
1021
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2:02:34
If you want to look it up, I'm the senior author, but Jerry and I basically drafted the paper.
1022
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2:02:49
We were the core authors and it dealt with how these products, I won't call them pharmaceuticals
1023
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2:02:55
because they're actually classified as countermeasures by the US Department of Defense.
1024
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2:03:07
This is not a conspiracy theory or anything like that. This is from published information.
1025
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2:03:17
It was the US Department of Defense which was in command and control of the development of the
1026
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2:03:27
mRNA vaccines. There were literally hundreds of sub-manufacturers. The image that the public has
1027
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2:03:41
is that companies like Moderna and Pfizer and Novavax and Johnson & Johnson and so forth
1028
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2:03:51
had these bright ideas and went away and developed these vaccines in record time. The
1029
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2:04:04
Project Warp Speed, what was under the control of the US Department of Defense and covered by
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2:04:13
legislation including the PREP Act. Sasha Latapova has written extensively on this
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2:04:24
and that's where I got a lot of my information and Katherine Watt as well to give her fair due.
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2:04:38
It explains an awful lot because in my humble opinion, the
1033
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2:04:51
US FDA wasn't really performing its role as a drug regulator. It was theater. They
1034
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2:05:01
had the appearance of being the authority to evaluate and control these things but they weren't
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2:05:08
really in charge. The people at the table who were really making the decisions
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2:05:16
was the US Department of Defense. So it was a matter of national security. Now you can argue
1037
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2:05:23
was that a noble lie? Were they doing it for the right reasons? Were they doing it for the wrong
1038
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2:05:34
reasons? You can make up your own mind about that but all I can say to you is that the usual
1039
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2:05:46
I can say to you is that the usual logical, necessary ethical guidelines that should have
1040
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2:05:56
been used to evaluate these products, these countermeasures which they called pharmaceuticals,
1041
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2:06:01
which they still call pharmaceuticals, were not used.
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2:06:09
They just weren't and they still are not used. I believe the governments
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2:06:21
and the bureaucrats are restricted by what they can say under national security arrangements
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2:06:30
and intelligence which trumps everything else. Unfortunately, given that situation,
1045
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2:06:40
we can no longer trust what the drug regulators say. Whenever they say a drug is approved,
1046
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2:06:45
it's safe and efficacious, you have to question everything. How can the average person in the
1047
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2:06:53
industry know? I mean, I didn't know when I was in the industry. I didn't really know
1048
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2:07:01
for a number of months. You know, well into 2020 before I really made up my mind,
1049
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2:07:10
I was on a learning curve. No one knew about mRNA vaccines. I wasn't a genomic expert. I've
1050
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2:07:18
never been trained in genomics. So what would I know? I was on a big learning curve.
1051
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2:07:28
So the public relies on what the TGA and the FDA and the other regulatory agencies say.
1052
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2:07:37
And now it is very, very clear to anyone who looks at this situation
1053
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2:07:47
in a critical way is that we can no longer depend on them and that should send chills
1054
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2:07:54
up and down your spine. How do you know? And now the question about vaccines comes up and
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2:08:02
and I note that someone had mentioned the testimony of Plotkin, Stan Stanley Plotkin,
1056
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2:08:14
who was the gray's anatomy of vaccines, right? And he said they haven't been tested for safety.
1057
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2:08:26
RFK has been right all along. He's been vindicated and the vaccine industry
1058
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2:08:32
has no obligation to test for safety and they do not want to test for safety
1059
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2:08:39
because they're worried about what they will find. And these are things that
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I had never thought about in my decades of experience in dealing with regulatory agencies.
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2:08:59
In fact, you know, I've done trials on almost every class of therapeutic that there was
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over the years, except one class. And that class was vaccines because you didn't have to do a
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clinical trial. Clinical trials were very rare. The companies did the core trials and they
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2:09:31
they designed them. And as we all know, as I know, you can design a clinical trial
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2:09:42
to succeed or fail. You can design it well or you can design it with deficiencies.
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2:09:52
There's a whole range of quality of clinical trials out there. And unfortunately,
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2:10:02
the gold standard that's accepted by people worldwide are randomized control clinical trials
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2:10:11
on a large scale. And if you have a problem with a drug post-marketing,
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it's only the drug companies that have the wherewithal, the resources, the financial
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2:10:25
resources and the manpower to actually do those things. The burden of proof
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2:10:34
when people claim I've been injured by a vaccine rests on the individual. It's been shifted to the
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2:10:43
individual. It's impossible to argue. Going to court, and I've seen it firsthand trying to argue
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2:10:50
that you've been injured by a vaccine in a court of law. Very, very difficult to prove. The
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pharmaceutical industry knows this. So huge problems in the system and I don't know how we
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2:11:08
can come back from here because such egregious things have been done now. So many people have
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2:11:14
been injured worldwide and died and there's been nothing like this in the history of the
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2:11:20
pharmaceutical industry. Yeah, they baked in plausible deniability is what they did.
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2:11:35
Exactly. So how do we come back from here? I really just don't know. All my life, you know,
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I worked for industry either as a staff member or later as a consultant.
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I really argued with my friends when they accused me of working for a corrupt industry and
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2:12:00
that was at a time decades ago when there were problems and people were complaining and drugs
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2:12:06
were withdrawn and there were lawsuits. We all know about the lawsuits. There have been
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2:12:19
over 400 drugs withdrawn worldwide since 2000. Drugs aren't safe and even if a regulatory
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2:12:25
agency says that they're approved, that doesn't mean that they're safe. The real
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2:12:36
test comes post-marketing when they're released and millions of people use the drugs. But now,
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2:12:42
we can no longer rely on the adverse drug reaction reporting system, which was our safety net,
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2:12:51
to double check if the initial clinical trials were right, which were usually done on just a
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2:12:58
few thousand patients. If that, I've been involved in falls where drugs were registered on a few
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2:13:07
hundred patients. Now, you have to ask yourself, if an adverse drug event occurs, a serious deadly
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2:13:15
adverse event occurs one in a thousand or one in 10,000, are you going to find that in a clinical
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trial of a few hundred patients? The answer is clearly no. That's why you need an unbiased,
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reliable adverse drug reaction reporting system. Now, these adverse drug reporting systems,
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2:13:38
I believe, are corrupt. They're in the hands of the bureaucrats, the same bureaucrats
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that have been telling you for four years that the COVID vaccines are safe and efficacious.
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2:13:56
Myocardial infarctions and myocarditis is not a problem, and there's no increase in cancers,
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2:14:03
there's no increase in excess deaths. The excess deaths have come from the drug
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2:14:08
and the drugs, and the drugs have come from the drug and the drugs have come from the drugs.
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2:14:15
There's no increase in cancers, there's no increase in excess deaths. The excess deaths have come down
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2:14:23
now. That's what a lot of countries are reporting, that the unexpected, all-cause mortality is finally
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coming down. What they don't tell you is that they've changed the formula to calculate excess
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deaths. I did put up a sub-stack where he mentions the fact that the natural cause mortality,
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in other words, what's on the death certificate, has skyrocketed. I did put that link in the chat,
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so you should be able to find it. It's a sub-stack post by Steve Kirsch. He was citing another paper
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as well. They just lie. They're like a bunch of five-year-olds. They didn't do their homework,
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and they say the dog ate it. They just want you to believe their lies,
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and they'll shoot you if you don't. It's crazy. That's basically why I'm here and doing what I'm
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doing, because I believe the lies will continue, and the people who made this happen are still
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there, still making decisions. The more people know, the better it is.
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Absolutely.
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You just have to spread the word and keep going and not be disillusioned at the carnage.
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Philip, are you in touch with Andrew Wakefield?
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No, no. I've never talked to him.
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Are you in touch with him?
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There are actually very few people in the world that
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come at this problem from a regulatory affairs point of view. Sasha Latopova is one. She,
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like myself, owned a CRO, a contract research organization. I listen very carefully
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to what she has to say. Robert Malone I listen to because he has extensive experience in regulatory
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affairs over the years. When I listen to him, he uses the right words. I know he's been there,
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and I rely on what he says. Mike Eden, just until recently, has been one of my people that I would
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rely on. I'm not so sure at the moment. I haven't made up my mind yet.
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That's the problem. Unless you're in regulatory affairs and you've been in regulatory affairs and
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you've seen what goes on, you can't really speak with authority.
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But the people who are currently employed in regulatory affairs cannot speak for fear of losing
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their careers, their livelihood, their jobs. A lot of people, especially medical people that I talk
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to, have spoken up at great, great personal cost, of course, as we all know. They've not only lost
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their accreditation in many circumstances, they've lost family, they've lost marriages,
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family members don't speak with them, they've lost their family members, they've lost their
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family members, don't speak with them, they're in financial difficulty, they've lost homes.
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It's been just incredible. As far as myself is concerned, I really haven't had to sacrifice
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that much because I wasn't employed, I was retired. It's much easier for me to speak.
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But I really give full credit and admiration to those clinicians and scientists who
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are currently employed and are brave enough to speak up.
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Well, if no one speaks up, then we're all really heading for
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oblivion, I think. So it's essential that some people speak up.
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So next question is from Anders Brunstad and he is a 5G, 4G, 3G expert in Norway.
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Anders?
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Hello, Philip. I'm really happy to hear your testimony and especially your reference to
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Latipova and Katrin Vatt. They really have done a big work on this. I couldn't agree 100%
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on some earlier stories about viruses, etc. But that's not important. I have studied this
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extensively in scientific methods of research into what was the cause of 5G, 4G, 3G,
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2:20:36
or other possible reasons, but I don't want to go into there now because it's not really productive.
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And what is the history of this matter is that this is a deliberate plan
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2:20:56
conceived to kill, depopulate, control human population. It's been
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reported in books in the Bilderberger of 1976 or whatever later.
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2:21:09
I don't need to go there, but they refer to also microwave without going into that.
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What is the reality is that when you study the vaccine damages, it started roughly in,
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well, 1902. There was never any virus proven by science, but there was a lot of vaccine damage
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proven by science. In 1956, you got both. You got vaccines and let's say not 2G, 3G, 4G. You got TV.
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You got microwave. In 1968, you got satellites and microwave. And you've been getting more and
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more of it later. In 1986, the biggest problem, if you want to reverse what we have now,
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you need to go back to what Ronald Reagan did with approving vaccines to be the
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product without any liability. And this is where we need to go back. We need to say,
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this is not okay. And that's my point. What is your comment to that?
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Yeah, that is basically the root of the problem. Because if you're not liable for any damages
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and you're developing a vaccine, quite obviously you can save a lot of time and money in getting
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2:22:45
your product to the market in terms of a marketing model. It's perfect. Not only that, you can get
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2:22:52
government to promote your product. You can get government to pay for your product. This is why
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2:23:03
Bill Gates is in vaccines. It's more profitable than computers. And he's made more money on vaccines.
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2:23:13
If there's no liability, then how are we going to get out of this? This is going to continue.
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I've become very, very skeptical about vaccines. You only have to look at the incidents of autism.
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And Steve Kirsch has done this exceedingly well and brought up a lot of the data. Whereas autism was
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was before the 1980s, a very, very rare condition, hardly known. And now in the US,
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where there are basically 72 different doses of vaccine on the kids' schedule
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2:24:03
that's required in the US. And that's recently started off at a lower number,
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2:24:12
six or eight or something like that. But the increase in autism has paralleled the use of
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the vaccines. And then you look at the- I just have a brief comment, if I can.
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And I would like to introduce Dr. Martin Pall,
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who has done extensive research first in the idea of, let's say, radiation or 4G, 5G, whatever.
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2:24:44
And then recently in April this year, he has concluded that it's a combination of these
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radiation and the vaccines, the metals, the aluminium, etc. So it is a combination. And
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if you look into the vaccines, you will find exactly that. If you look into the chantrails,
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you'll find exactly that. If you look into the water, you'll find exactly that. If you look into
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2:25:11
the pesticides, you'll find exactly that. It's a war on four arms. It's the vaccines, it's the air,
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the water, it's the food. Yeah. Look, I believe you. I believe you. I don't know a lot about
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5G, but I'm talking to people about 5G. My interest has been fricked. And
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I just getting back to what I was going to say about autism,
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you know, what you need because the drug companies don't do safety studies, as Plotkin said.
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2:26:01
Just look at a control group like the Amish. The Amish don't have a problem with autism.
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2:26:09
I have a second control group for you. You have those who live in cities and those who live rural.
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The rural population have much less radiation and much less, let's say, excess mortality.
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2:26:23
Yeah, yeah. You know, I
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opened a conference on 5G not long ago. They asked me to open the conference.
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2:26:48
And my worst subject at university was physics. I hardly passed. Here I was opening a conference
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2:26:57
on 5G. But the reason why they asked me to do that was because there were lots of
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2:27:05
parallels between what was happening with the regulation with drugs and 5G. And when I started
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2:27:20
to look at 5G, the claims of safety are based largely on inadequate studies. For example,
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the rise in subdermal skin temperature, that's what they base safety on.
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2:27:41
And real safety studies, the telecommunications industry, like the pharmaceutical industry,
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has the wherewithal, has the money, could do it, but they don't want to do it because they don't
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want to know the answer. And it's been done. It's been done, but it's kind of protected. So
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it's a digital pulses of all new communication, which induces ionization, which causes harm
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2:28:12
connected to metals in the body from these other vectors.
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I'd like to connect with you offline. I'll send you my email. I'd like to communicate
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2:28:30
with you about this because it's another area of interest, which I do agree is very important.
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And it's another situation where the burden of proof of safety has been shifted to the individual
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and not the companies that are responsible. So it's very interesting.
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And one of the things we learned when I was doing... So I'm a radiologist,
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and so diagnostic radiologist. One of the things we learned in radiation physics was that no one
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on then knew what the risk was of radiation. But we have to wear dosimeters, so-called,
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under the lead aprons if we were in the lab screening the patient, you know.
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But the risk was unquantifiable for the individual and varied hugely as far as
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we were taught anyway. So what made me really... So I was very careful with my dosimeters. Some
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people didn't bother, you know, they didn't have it on under the lead apron. I always had mine on.
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2:29:58
And then one day in Sweden where I was working as a radiologist, so I qualified as a doctor in the UK
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and then as a diagnostic radiologist in Sweden. And one day in Sweden, they said,
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someone came around from the radiation physics department of the hospital and said,
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we are collecting all the dosimeters. And I said, why are you taking those? You don't need them
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any longer. And I said, oh, can you show me how you know that? I didn't get any answer to that.
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Can I comment on that? Sure. So I have friends who are radiologists and they do,
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it's in hospitals and they do, let's say, x-rays and all these CTs. Okay.
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And geographies and stuff like that. Yes. Yes. And the husband worked in the army
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2:31:02
and was exposed to much radiation from radar systems.
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2:31:11
And each of those two factors, each of them have 400% increases of risk for DNA damages.
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Yeah. Different types of diagnosis of kids with, yeah, I don't want to go there, but there is
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2:31:29
something called the radar case, which is military US radar, which is from 65, which is 400,000
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2:31:38
increase of risk. And the second is those who work in radiology in hospitals and everywhere
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2:31:50
with these x-rays. Sure. And when you combine those two, you have something which can exemplify
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what you're dealing with, with the microwave.
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2:32:01
Yeah. Yeah, it sounds sensible because you get a synergistic effect. One in one is not two.
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One in one could be five. Sure. Or 20. Or 20.
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2:32:17
So we were told in the radiation physics that in the nuclear explosions in Nagasaki,
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2:32:26
Hiroshima, that the effect on human beings was hugely variable. So two human beings very close
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to each other in those cities when they were bombed, if they were bombed, of course,
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one could be vomiting. And the other could be a little bit of a fever.
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2:32:53
They one could be vomiting. And the person, the human being next to him or her could be dead.
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It was that variable. So and one of the things also we were told about the dosimeters was that
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was that they were required because they couldn't guarantee the safety of the x-ray tubes,
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2:33:15
the tubes that created the x-rays. So all kinds of disasters could occur, you know,
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2:33:26
and without any any measurement of radiation, no one knew what had happened. And so clearly,
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anybody who was behind the dosimeters was thinking about, well, hopefully thinking about the people
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2:33:40
working with radiation in health services, you know, and trying at least to protect so
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2:33:46
that there was some record, which indisputable record, which could be used in the future.
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2:33:53
But then so I never believed that it was that the dosimeters should have been taken away. But I
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couldn't obviously foresee what would happen in 2020. And it was to remove the evidence. Exactly.
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2:34:09
They didn't want to have the evidence there. And so and also to nudge people into thinking,
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2:34:09
2:34:17
well, you know, mobile phones were coming. So we knew that the towers that they used for mobile
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2:34:24
phones, certainly the early ones and still I suppose, they were emitting radiation.
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2:34:34
So they didn't they wanted to kind of hide the fact that the radiation from these mobile phone
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2:34:39
towers, because that was the world that they wanted to bring, you know, mobile phones,
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2:34:48
everybody connected. And but nobody really foresaw, I certainly didn't, that the effect of
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2:34:56
the mobile phones would be mobile phone addictions, and the creation of cults, essentially of
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2:35:02
echo chambers. So and especially with young people, it seems to me that the danger now is that young
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2:35:09
people are certain because they have an easy time on social media, they seek out platforms,
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2:35:15
or they like and and where they get lots of likes, you know, and approval, and they never had to kind
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2:35:21
of they don't need to engage with anyone who doesn't agree with them. They don't like to have
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2:35:26
conversations with their peers, because it's too difficult because they come up against people for
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2:35:32
the first time in their lives who disagree with them. This is absolutely crazy. It's taking people
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2:35:38
away from their identity and their humanity. And it needs to be challenged. But the point is that
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2:35:43
the mobile phones were the vision of the future and the most social media, whether that was all
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2:35:50
planned, you know, to take us away from our identity, our humanity. It seems very plausible
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2:35:55
to me, and everybody's addicted to their mobile phones and to the social media. And everybody
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2:36:00
thinks it's okay not to worry about it. If it was any other addiction, when you combine,
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2:36:08
when you combine those phones with radiation with the massive amount of increased vaccination with
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2:36:15
all these metal nanometals, that's where you have the kill. Sure. But the dosimeter,
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2:36:22
ME, the dosimeter story was very, very interesting. So we knew why we were wearing dosimeters. And all
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2:36:28
of a sudden in Sweden, but I thought it was just Sweden that was weird, came back to the UK,
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2:36:37
checked up. Same thing has happened in the UK. Steven, I'm gonna have to depart, unfortunately.
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2:36:37
2:36:40
Yes, sure. We're coming to a natural end anyway.
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2:36:49
Okay. Thank you so much, Philip. Thank you. Thank you for the invitation to speak. It's been really
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interesting. Can I just tell you one thing, Philip? You're dealing with a lot of lawyers,
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2:37:02
I think, aren't you? Yes. Do they understand that the gain of function story could be part of the
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2:37:10
false narrative? And also, do they understand that there was no pandemic? But very importantly,
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2:37:19
in my opinion, as a doctor, and increasingly, I've got doctors joining me now who think that
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2:37:25
I don't think pandemics are possible. It was always a construct. It was a construct because
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2:37:34
it was going to... They created a pandemic, if you like, through the fear. So it wasn't necessary
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2:37:43
to have a pandemic. It was necessary to have the illusion of a pandemic to create the fear. So the
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2:37:51
fear became the Trojan horse for totalitarianism. Yeah, they understand that. And do they understand...
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2:38:00
So do they understand that the notion that we have to be very careful with pandemics in the future,
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2:38:05
we don't have to worry about pandemics in the future because a deadly virus kills its host?
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2:38:06
2:38:13
And the other thing, Philip, do they understand that they're... In my opinion, COVID-19,
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2:38:14
2:38:20
the diagnosis of COVID-19, it was always an improper diagnosis. Yeah. So on the one hand,
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2:38:27
you've got a fraudulent test. And on the other hand, there wasn't a single clinical symptom,
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2:38:32
or signs for that matter, which was pathognomonic for COVID-19.
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2:38:33
2:38:37
Yeah. I've made absolutely sure that they understand that.
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Great. Yeah.
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2:38:46
And then your best friend comes along and says, Stephen, I had COVID last week.
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Yeah, that's right. And I say...
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2:38:52
And I've got COVID again.
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2:39:00
Yes. And I say, how do you know you had COVID? Oh, I've never been so ill in my life.
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2:39:06
And I'm thinking, what? Yeah.
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2:39:09
I despair of my friendships, honestly. It's just kind of...
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2:39:10
I know.
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2:39:11
It's like a war zone.
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2:39:21
Yeah. Well, I lost a lot of friends, but I gained many, many, many more new friends.
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2:39:25
You had brilliant friends as well, aren't they? Just extraordinary people.
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2:39:28
Anyway, thank you so much, Philip.
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2:39:33
Thank you again. I really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you.
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And thank you for the fantastic work you've been doing.
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2:39:39
You're welcome.
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2:39:43
Thank you. Thank you, Philip.
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Bye-bye.