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the narrative. I think Charles we're very guilty of being lazy when it comes to offering the public
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narrative as is Jim Thorpe and James is doing great work and you're right we have to and
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Gerry Waters wasn't shy and Vera Sharow hasn't been shy so let's keep we come to these meetings
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so we get encouraged Stephen. Encouragement is an external source of courage quite interesting.
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and they have great difficulty in summing up what has happened in the last five years
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you know in the broad terms. That's the mob we need we're talking to the people who aren't
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asleep but most people yes okay everybody welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics
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International. In today's discussion this group was founded four years ago by Dr Stephen Frost
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a British trained medical doctor with a passion for truth ethics justice freedom and health. I'm
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Charles Covessi in Australia I'm Australasias passion provocateur this is a group of professionals
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different professions from all around the world not just doctors and as I say we are from all
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around the world many of us now realize that vaccines of all descriptions are not safe nor
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effective and that no vaccines have ever been proven via any gold standard to be safe or
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effective. First time is a warmly welcome to introduce yourself in the chat we are in the
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midst of World War III and then we have 12 battlefronts one of them is the Medical
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Science Battlefront there's 11 others including a spiritual battlefront and if you're watching this
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for the first time this is the place for you to be encouraged to stand up for what you believe
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is right. These two and a half hour sessions are followed by Tom Rodman running a optional telegram
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video chat we'll hear from our guest presenter Dr James Thorpe called Jim from US of A whose
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great talents come from his wife Maggie he'll tell you that later but Maggie's the one that's
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really keeping making Jim Thorpe famous she's a she's a lawyer behind every great man is a lawyer
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woman. So we will listen to Jim Jim has spoken to us I think three times previously and we're
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grateful that him I will introduce him in a moment and we're grateful Jim that you can join us
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and after Jim presents from whatever he wishes to present we have Q&A and Stephen Frost will have
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the first set of questions for 15 minutes this is a free speech environment appropriately moderated
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and if you're offended be offended we're not interested we're lovingly not interested. We
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choose love over fear fear binds and sickens and love liberates heals and inspires these twice
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weekly gatherings are far from mere talk they've birthed real world actions and alliances. A key
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tactic in our fight is exposing medical crimes on social media rallying behind John Rappaport's
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crafted mantra of medical truth now that's what we want medical truth now.
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Share any solutions or products in the chat and Jim we're welcome we're delighted to welcome you
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telling people a little bit about your amazing
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journey you're a board certified obstetrician gynaecologist and maternal fetal medicine physician
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with 46 years of experience in obstetrics you remain active in clinical practice and you've
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dedicated your career to both patient care and clinical research throughout this career you've
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cared for a high volume of high risk pregnant patients while maintaining a strong presence in
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academic medicine you've authored 224 scientific publications including approximately 40 focused on
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COVID-19 you've served as a peer reviewer for major medical journals and you were a member of
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the board of directors for the society of a maternal fetal medicine for three years you've also served
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as an examiner for the American board of obstetrics and gynaecology you served in the US Air Force
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where you're awarded a health profession scholarship for your medical education
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in 2003 you testified before the US Senate under the Bush administration on the topic of trusting
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the fetus as a patient highlighting advancements in in utero therapies you later returned to testify
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before the Senate in December 2022 and again earlier this year on May the 21st the anniversary
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of my first marriage Jim and I'm an expert in marriage and on in May 2025 you address concerns
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about the corruption of science and government agencies recently you've also concentrated your
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research on the COVID-19 pandemic resulting in the publication of 32 scientific articles your
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latest book Sacrifice how the deadliest vaccine in history targeted the most vulnerable and that was
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released in February this year you've also appeared in several documentary films including
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Shot Dead and Died Suddenly you currently practice as a maternal fetal medicine specialist in a major
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hospital you you serve as chief of maternal and prenatal health at the wellness company
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the website of that is twc.health and you're a founding member of the advanced biological
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research group abrg.org in the show notes are the links to your Senate testimony of this year which
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is very powerful and you appeared there and there's also a YouTube link of you with Senator Ron
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Johnson and with your very clever wife Maggie so Jim thank you again for being with us thank you
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Stephen for us for starting this group and Jim we are in your hands you can share your screen
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if you wish over to you. Thank you so much Charles this is such an honor and privilege to be with
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really with my favorite group to be with it really is just an honor and privilege
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I want to start off by this is real live stuff just got done seeing a patient and no unique
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identifiers you don't know where she is or I should say they are because I see patients from
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all over the world but this is real live and accurate to the detail a very young beautiful
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couple set up a consultation with me and they have a daughter who's 15 years old
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and they are distraught because their 15 year old went to see an obstetrician gynecologist
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at one of the major medical centers in that city which this family live
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which this family live beautiful family just a beautiful family
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very devout Catholic family and the main reason that the family had contacted me
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was they were actually given my name by somebody who I won't mention was actually another physician
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and she had menorrhagia chief complaint of menorrhagia for those of you who don't know
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what that medical term is that means that this is a young lady that has extraordinarily heavily
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heavy menstrual periods so she's 15 she started menstruating normally at age 12
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and she had been extensively worked up appropriately so and so I delved into the
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history the main concern that the doctor had and actually the couple had was their ob-gyn doctor
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recommended an iud in this 15 year old adolescent and I must admit that that sounded very
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odd to me to to put it politely but I'd be happy to see them and so I delve into the history
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a little bit more and I find out that she's also on some other medications
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that were perplexing to me lamyctal was one of them another antidepressant was another one of them
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and some some other medications and when I the adolescent wasn't there the mother and father were
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there and I said well does she have any other history and she said well she's had three
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concussions over the last three years and what what do you mean she's had three concussions that
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had three concussions that's what what's happened here oh well we don't know she's just been
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a little off balance and been falling around oh and have you seen a neurologist
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well we did and they sent our daughter to a vertigo vertigo means spinning medical word for
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spinning to a vertigo physical therapist and they did a ct scan couldn't find anything wrong
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interesting I said very interesting so uh is there anything else that I should know
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any other concerning history well she's quite depressed okay and she described the periods the
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periods menstrual periods were really not that they were they were quite heavy but her hemoglobin
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occur and cause this not uncommonly whether it's von willebrand's disease or hemophilia a or
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hemophilia b or ray or platelet disorder but nobody seemed to of all the doctors she's seen
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which was um close to a dozen do you think that anybody connected the dots did anybody say
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did your daughter receive a covid 19 vaccine none of them did
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and she received a covid 19 vaccine after all this started
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and I said your daughter is vaccine injured this is classic this is absolutely classic she has very
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abnormal menstrual periods um she has lost her balance she's fallen and had three concussions
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so I shared with her um this was a very long visit I like to spend as much time as I can
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with with my patients and by the way I don't charge them either I don't charge them a dime
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um I do I do make them sign a paper uh that documents that I'm not entering into a physician
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patient relationship and that you know my wife's an attorney come on right so I've been in this
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situation long enough where I know that fraudsters will come after me and try to report me to the
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medical boards and all this other nonsense so I get all my ducks in a row legally and have them
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sign the appropriate paperwork but I don't take a dime if they want to contribute to the um my
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vaccine injured fund through the wellness company or they want to uh make a donation to the advanced
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biological research group which is also a 501c3 they're fine to do that but I don't care about
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money I'm interested in helping people the couple the mom and dad were shocked but they
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received it and said this makes a lot of sense and then I I reviewed with them and I know that
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Maggie wouldn't mind me sharing this but I said you know um Dick and Jane that's not their real
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name said I want to share a story with you Maggie is from one of four there's she has three siblings
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she's the youngest of four daughters and all three of Maggie's older sisters and Maggie came this
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close to having the vaccine all three of her sisters had it all three of them had severe
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vaccine injuries including interestingly all three of them falling down
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two of them having massive facial trauma from planting their face on cement I mean really the
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exact same thing this 15 year old girl had and then I also shared with her you know
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our recent publication and and I shared this with Charles and I think Dr. Steven and we'll put a
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link in the chat but I think just six or eight weeks ago this is after two weeks of work
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I have been following psychiatric symptoms and also cognitive symptoms in the VAERS database for
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two years every quarter I've been updating it and every single quarter the safety signal grew
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louder and louder and louder and finally I said enough's enough we're going to publish this put
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it in print we put it in pre-print and it's been in pre-print for probably six months it was
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published in a peer-reviewed medical journal oh six or eight weeks ago and basically the I have
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several co-authors who are really notable co-authors Claire Rogers and Kirsten Cosgrove who
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are both McCullough Foundation scholars also Dr. Peter Bregan is is on this paper for those of
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you who know him he's a world-renowned psychiatrist also Dr. Drew Pinsky is on this paper
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and Dr. Peter McCullough on this paper so not a group of authors that just fell off the turnip
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truck I guess is my point I was very honored to have these co-authors but what we looked at was
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86 different adverse events and from the VAERS database again just to review
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some of you who may not be familiar with the United States of America the vaccine injury
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surveillance system is called VAERS VAERS vaccine adverse event reporting system
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and interestingly that comes straight pretty much straight from the UK
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Sandwich UK Pfizer facility which is our main research so there's thousands I would say 5,000
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lower level symptoms so we looked at we picked out say 86 of those symptoms that were relevant
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most of which 47 were related to loss of cognitive function the second grouping was
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neuropsychiatric diseases psychiatric illnesses and the last group was a severe form of psychiatric
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illness and that is suicide homicide or suicidal or homicidal ideation out to the chase every
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single one of those categories had a profound safety signal so I shared that with with this
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couple is that yes not not not only not only does the COVID-19 vaccine kill and injure but it does
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so in every single organ system you could imagine so she she has my cell phone number
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you know she can text me and get more information what did I recommend first thing was
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bone up on the literature you know get the books don't believe Dr. Jim Thorpe don't believe any of
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your other doctors because we've all been bribed it's a it's a matter of whether or not they've
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taken the bribe and and your doctors can't be truthful with you don't believe doctors or nurses
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you are your own best advocate nobody will advocate better for you than you and I'm speaking
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to everybody listening to this you don't need to be a doctor or a nurse or a health care profession
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there are available publications all over the world for you that you could look at
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you could look at and you can determine the best route to go if you're contemplating any
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particular therapy so I would advocate be your own advocate be aware of the corruption so I just
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wanted to make a a real live venue there that that I got just done with before coming on this show
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I wanted to just run through 10 of the studies very quickly and we'll get links in the chat
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10 studies that essentially in my opinion irrefutably document the adverse effects of
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the COVID-19 vaccine in pregnancy you know the first one number one is Pfizer's 5.3.6 post
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marketing data I'll drop a link to that right in the chat right now as I'm talking
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or maybe I won't because that'll slow me up and I can't find it quite here it goes
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yeah so there's that reference right there you can look at that and if you go to page seven
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on that document that I just sent you you see a couple of interesting things
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in just 10 weeks of the first marketing there were 42,086 casualties including 1,223 dead
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just in 10 weeks not from Moderna just from Pfizer deadliest vaccine deadliest medicine
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in the history of humanity deadliest medical product so there's some interesting things
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about it though that you can discern and the first one is that from this page seven you can
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you can see that I'm not making that up that's definitely true so the numbers that I'm telling
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you but isn't it interesting that in all of these adverse events there's a female to male
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preponderance of over I think 3.3 to one in other words for every male that was injured or killed
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multiply that times 3.3 to get the number of females now there could be a lot of bias in there
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but it's not all bias it's interesting I think to contrast because if you look at the sudden death
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and cardiac complications it's completely the opposite right it's totally the opposite it's
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predominantly male not female although of course there's some overlap but on page 12 of that
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document is the pregnancy outcomes now you know we had an incredible guest on on this show before
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I'm not sure if he was a guest or or a commenter an Israeli researcher Dr Josh Getzko who by the
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way out a brilliant young investigator who who is actually I hosted him on my weekly hour show called
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two docs pwo2 as in two doctors docs it's dr renny moon and myself we've been doing a weekly show
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last over a year and a half and he was on and and he he made some really he just is he's a lead
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author of the last study that I'll review but but he's a brilliant chap and and so he he made the
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comment well you know you really can't you can look at the raw data but you can't really make
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absolutes with regard to fetal death rates and to miscarriage rates and and that's true
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clearly they're increased but you you can't this is just reported data from Pfizer but it is
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interesting to see that at least from their data the miscarriage rate is extraordinarily high
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and the fetal death rate and neonatal death rates are extraordinarily high so that's that's a that's
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the Pfizer studies the the third study that was published and that I'm doing these in
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chronological order so you know really you could look at that as just one study but there's two
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pages of that study that are relevant page seven and page 12 the third study is the study
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that Thorpe and colleagues published I'm sorry not Thorpe and colleagues it was Thorpe alone
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and this was a letter an open letter to the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology that
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was published globally this was published January 12 2022 it was actually a 98 page letter
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and this was after the organizations that have honored me my entire career threatened to
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destroy me take away my medical licenses in every state and take away my board certifications
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despite my exemplary professional career that they honored me with so basically I exposed them
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anybody can read that letter and this was the first publication of the governmental data and by the
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way it included 1019 peer-reviewed publications in just 12 months from peer-reviewed medical
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journals documenting death and injury from the COVID-19 vaccines can you imagine that
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1019 in just 12 months and now there's well over 4 000 so so that was the second publication and
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that also documented a huge huge safety signal breach for pregnant vaccine and pregnant women
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so I published that went globally and crickets never heard another word from them they they knew
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they were dead wrong they knew I was right they knew they didn't want to screw with me
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they knew that or they'd be in big trouble because I would go after them and there would
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be this process called discovery and they knew what they were doing was immoral and unethical
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so the next publication would be about a year later and this was a more formal analysis this
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was by um forb and colleagues also including uh clara rogers michael duskovich a phd dod
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in in math and modeling steward tankers lee and and and peter mccullough and others and we looked
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at 18 different adverse events um for about um this was about 20 months of the COVID-19 vaccine
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and all of those 18 adverse events in pregnancy were breached the safety signal by far and away
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now when we're comparing these safety signals I'll make this I won't get too deep into mathematics
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there's a lot of different ways to statistically measure disproportionality many many different
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ways in this particular article we used now now many will say well these are um these are
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proportional risk ratios are well that's kind of a broad term some people use that term very
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specifically others use it more broadly but in this particular paper what we did was we took the
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number of adverse events per inoculation per person vaccinated and per time massive amount
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of mathematical modeling they were all about the same so by no matter which method we used um we
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it was very significant breach of safety signals now the next study the the fourth study if you will
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is actually Pfizer's own study and very little attention is given to Pfizer's own study
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can you believe that Pfizer actually did a randomized double-blinded placebo control trial
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in pregnant women they did um it was completed in 2022 in the summer of 2022
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up here north of the hemisphere I guess that would be the winner for you child
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um but um that would be in July of 2022 and it was published in July of 2023 well wouldn't you know
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well I'll tell you why they would do that because if they carried on and got an appropriate sample
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size there would have been very damaging results to their narrative so with just 300 patients
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here's what they found there was there was greater than a two-fold increased risk of
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depressed babies at birth there was a significant increased risk of meconium aspiration syndrome
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when I say there were I can't give you an odds ratio because there were zero in the placebo group
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neonatal jaundice was increased 1.8 fold you know and genital malformations were increased 1.7 fold
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these are atrial septal defect a specific defect of the fetal heart was increased
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baby through the placenta was increased there were none in the placebo group and there were three
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in the vaccine group so growth restricted congenital nevi which is a skin classic skin
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lesion that's associated with herald for vaccine injury and also broncholitis now I want to ask you
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it comes close but if the patient number was appropriate you'd have odds of one in a million
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or certainly one in 10 000 just to give you an idea how many patients did they need
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well I can tell you how many was needed for the study that that I a randomized double blinded
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placebo control trial that I devised and I did spent the summer of 2020 developing defining
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a study you know how many patients are required 70 000 70 000 patients so so clearly this this was
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underpowered and then it was buried in their data but I want to ask you a question
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I just mentioned seven of these adverse outcomes if any pregnant woman were counseled by their
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obstetrician gynecologist at their first prenatal visit and said and gave really true informed
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consent said this is Pfizer's data you can take the vaccine but in in this in their clinical trial
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trial you had all these seven
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significant complications were associated with the COVID vaccine would any pregnant woman take it
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unfortunately no nobody would but were they given true informed consent of course they were not so
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then the the sixth study
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studies were published in reprint a year ago over a year ago and the part one was study was published
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in a peer-reviewed medical journal in January of this year and I was lead author on that
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Albert Benavides was a co-author on that he was a second author
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attorney Thorpe was third authored a couple of other obstetricians Dr. Dan McDyer Dr. Kim Bess
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Julie Threed a vaccine injured spokeswoman from northern California and Peter McCullough were
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co-authors on that and in that particular paper we looked at 38 different adverse events over 40
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months just in pregnancy and again there was a significant breach of safety signals in all
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38 adverse events I won't bore you with all those but there were 38 of them 28 of them were before
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birth and 10 of them were in the newborns after birth including newborn death and and also of
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course the complications before occurred also in also included a massive increase in malformations
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of every organ system you could imagine also massive increase in miscarriage and what we call
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a massive increase in fetal death or stillbirth which is really a pregnancy loss at or after 20
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weeks which is much more rare than a miscarriage in real life now there's a part two of that study
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which is also published a year ago in pre-print and that is an accepted for publication of peer
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reviewed medical journal but I haven't gotten around to resubmitting that yet Mea Copa Mea Copa
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Mea Maxima Copa the next study is a fascinating study and of all places this was published in
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2022 of all places where did it come from it came from Egypt interestingly you know isn't it
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interesting that I find this very interesting that some of the landmark studies this year
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for example the study by Caraman and colleagues where did that come from Turkey why didn't we do
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this in United States of America or why didn't you do it in the UK or why didn't you do it in
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Australia or New Zealand okay well I think you all know the answer to that but Caraman and colleagues
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found that one vaccine in we stopped rats caused a 60 reduction
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in ovarian reserve in other words it killed off 60 percent of the eggs
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ladies and gentlemen that's our future generation it does the same thing in human beings the exact
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same thing and that's exactly what the advanced biological research group my research group with
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Dr. Stephen Hadfield and also Dr. Ryan Cole and others myself founding members that's what we're
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doing but do you think the government's giving us any money to do that or do you think the NIH is
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or do you think anybody else's no not a dime you think the pharmaceutical companies are
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no not a dime every virtually every dime has come from our own pockets and all the labor
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have come from ourselves which has been a massive amount so this is why these studies
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aren't done in the United States there's another reason why the studies are falsified in the United
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States of America and I'll talk to you about that later but with after I talk about the last day
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this study if you can believe it found a significantly higher rate of miscarriages
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fetal deaths oligohydranios which means the placenta is not working there's not enough
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amniotic fluid or fluid around this the baby inside mom's uterus abnormal placentas well you've
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heard me talk about that a lot abnormal fetal growth we you know the baby doesn't get any
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nutrition enough nutrition and oxygen from the placenta breastfeeding problems hypertension high
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blood pressure problems and a whole litany of others including malaise chest pain headaches
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breathing problems sleeping problems and many others so that's a mayor am er and colleagues
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published in peer-reviewed medical journal and lastly but certainly not least is my friend
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Gutskow who was on this brilliant Israeli researcher and what Josh found
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he's a PhD and Josh and his colleagues attacked this from a different angle they basically
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decided let's look at expected versus observed ratios in all these abnormalities
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well they came out with essentially the exact same findings that the previous studies have
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documented in other words and it was a massive cohort of patients in Israel Israel from an
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insurance database so what they used as backward looking data to get an expected ratio for various
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vaccines and then they used a study period and they got in essence significant increases one of
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the very fascinating findings of Josh Gutskow Dr Josh Gutskow is that and what they postulate
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why you know other people have missed it was if they got a vaccine in early pregnancy
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oftentimes these complications weren't picked up until later in pregnancy isn't that interesting
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and and I can assure you that in my clinical experience not only is it in the same pregnancy
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but I'm seeing patients in my practice now that haven't been vaccinated for two or three years
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they're having these classic devastating complications from their first shot years ago
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and why is that in my opinion I can't prove this it's because they have extraordinarily high titers
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of what the bio weapon spike protein right so um switching gears just a little bit and
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go and say why are there so many articles and there aren't many articles from the United States
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suggesting you know Dr Thorpe you're full of it look at all these articles that show that it's
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safe effective and necessary in pregnancy well there are but here's the problem there's not one
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hospital in the United States of America and there's not one group of researchers in the
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United States of America there's not one chairwoman or chairperson in a department
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of obstetrics and gynecology whether it's in an academic institution or a private hospital
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that will allow any investigator to put that manuscript or that data out they're not allowed
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because that's their protocol they could not publish something against their protocol
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they cannot do that or they would be showing themselves the other reason they can't do that
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is because that hospital would have to pay same reason why I was fired from one of the largest
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Catholic institutions in the country they had to fire me because I testified in front of the Senate
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because I was on Tucker Carlson I was on this platform many others and they heralded me as a
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model exemplary physician of their system one of the largest Catholic healthcare systems in the
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United States of America out of St. Louis in Missouri they fired me because if they didn't
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they took 306.9 million dollars and if they didn't fire me they'd have to pay that back
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so that's he who pays the pipe calls a tune you know as we were talking pre-show and here we
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talked about it's not just the hospital yes attorney Maggie Thorpe and I had published
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15 or 20 articles on the America Outlaw platform you know you look at every single thread of the
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fabric of our society have received money from HHS with strings attached what are those strings
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you don't have to pay the money back if you stick with our draconian COVID narratives it was all
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the religious leaders it was the AP press and all the mainstream media it was individuals it was the
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all of the NGOs it was all of the pharmacy pharmacies the major pharmacies I could go on
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and on and on so there's a reason why there's publication bias I would like to at this time
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interject an incredible substack that that you know I didn't come across this substack I was
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familiar with all these articles but I'm going to put it in the chat right now
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um this is a substack entitled this is dr Wojak's substack um and I put the link in there
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and the title of his substack is most of what your doctor practices is based on fraud
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um that's absolutely true um you know I we spoke of the David Dan Wim article when last name
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spelled N-G-U-Y-E-M published on October 10th 2024 just what 10 months ago nine months ago
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um oh gosh 10 or 11 months ago we're getting close to the final quarter of
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this year my how time flies but Dr. Winn and colleagues did a phenomenal study that just
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it blew my mind when I read it
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brilliant far beyond my skills I don't have these IT skills but they took four major medical
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article British Medical Journal and the Lancet those are the four most influential journals in
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the world and they took the review and this was just in the United States of America
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not not any other country just focus on United States of America just focus on these four journals
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and we'll get the list of reviewers that are published in those journals from the United
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States of America now we're going to link that up with a private pay database that covers payments
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isn't that interesting they connected to the dots
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it's unbelievable just in the United States of America just from those four journals just in
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those three years 20 21 and 22 1.06 billion dollars from pharmaceutical companies or
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medical device manufacturers so not only were the journals corrupted and paid off but the reviewers
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like me took money remember 95 percent of researchers will always isn't it interesting
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find the exact same bias and results that their funding source wanted isn't that interesting
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that's true from from this substack you know we we all know Marcia Engel who was I believe the first
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female editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine at the turn of the century called out
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the New England Journal of Medicine for being totally terminally corrupted and entangled with
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the pharmaceutical and drug manufacturers ladies and gentlemen that was 25 years ago
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Richard Horton editor-in-chief of the Lancet
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quote much of the scientific literature perhaps half maybe simply untrue and he goes on
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the medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry and he goes on and on
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Fiona Godley my colleagues over there in the UK I think you're very familiar with her former editor
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and chief of the British Medical Journal that I just quoted from the WEN study
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she points out I think we have to call it what it is it's a corruption of the scientific process
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we look at Richard Smith also a former editor-in-chief of the British Medical Journal
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again the WEN study calls that out that I just talked about medical journals are an extension
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of the marketing arm of pharmaceutical companies can you imagine that and finally and I know there's
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many more Doug Altman chief statistical advisor of the British Medical Journal the BMJ
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says the same thing so there you have it not not from Jim Thorpe
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you have it from former editors-in-chief
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the there's a 2017 study published in the BMJ and I'll link that also that found that over half
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actually 50.6 percent of editors at the world's most influential medical journals
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were receiving money directly from the pharmaceutical and medical device I'm going to put that
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in the chat so that you guys can see it sounds like I'm making this stuff up it's so
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it's just so awful there it is so in 20 you know in 2014 alone the average editor received
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over $27,000 in personal payments plus additional monies for research funds this is so not only are
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the reviewers getting money but the editors are getting money
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science is getting screwed every which way to Sunday by fraudulent payments
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of course in one of our recent publications attorney Maggie Thorpe traced direct payments
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from Rochelle Walensky at the CDC then chief director of the CDC directly to the
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New England Journal of Medicine it's called money laundering it was done through the Massachusetts
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Department of Health and speaking of departments of health you know every single department of
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health in the United States of America all 50 have received massive amounts of money from the HHS
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how much a lot Florida 1.8 billion dollars and it was awarded for COVID-19
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six months before the outbreak that's right ladies and gentlemen August 1st 2019
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August 1st 2019 and it was awarded for eight years up until July 31st 2027 and that same contract is
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in Texas for 2.2 billion dollars and every other state so why doesn't why don't things change why
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can't Bobby Kennedy come in there and pull the trigger it's a swamp it's a cesspool
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why weren't the state citizens informed
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that they had to walk lockstep or lose that money why didn't the hospitals inform
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their own doctors and their own patients that they had to walk lockstep or they'd lose millions of
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dollars you know I think I've made my point here I'd like to stop and you all have been very
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patient and I love this group it's such an honor and a privilege to be with you all and
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look forward to answering all the questions I can thank you Jim wonderful wonderful
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overview of the corruption and fraud and I hope I'd like to extract the three minutes from the five
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from the 50-minute mark where you articulated that beautifully of the of the
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quotes by editors that almost more almost half of what we publish is is simply fraudulent
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I've put into the chat an article by John Abramson of Harvard Medical School in published in Hillsdale
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College it's a wonderful article on America's Broken Health Care System gives you it all of us
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very useful hard data on what you've been talking about Jim and and we it's a very clear pathway
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that you've given to us to be able to quote so that people can't go hey here's the here is the
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research congratulations on your courageous stance and the help that you give it's a the story at the
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start of what we heard you know I think it's I think I was with a filmmaker yesterday and story
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stick because data each one of us can interpret data but you tell a story it's a powerful story
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of a 15 year old and you know having menstrual bleeding and then concussions and you go wow that
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really highlights what these jabs do and the fact that no one asked about the jabs which which also
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happens at many funerals here in Australia where people die suddenly no one's saying how shocking
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the jab must be so it's been a wonderful psychological operation by the forces of evil
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and darkness Jim and you're highlighting a light on it and we honor you for doing so and thank you
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for speaking to us and the next 15 minutes are yours young Stephen yeah so um James I'll try my
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best to um kind of uh get the uh you know to highlight what you said um um I noticed you
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being very careful I can understand why um and um I just wanted to tell you something interesting
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about Richard Horton so he's I think he's still the chief editor of the Lancet in the UK so for
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those who don't know the Lancet is one of the premier medical journals in the whole wide world
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including America and so uh James after my case after I withdrew my appeal on access to justice
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grounds against the British government and the British uh uh Ministry of Defense the British
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military essentially uh I was a whistleblower on um class a controlled drugs in the military
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and I blew the whistle in 2013 and they took me out with first of all by sacking me by text with
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no reason given uh while I was on a family holiday three weeks to the day after I told them
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that a police investigation was absolutely unavoidable in view of what they told me about
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um an incident involving class a controlled drugs on an isolated military camp at which I was the
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only doctor so to get better from that extraordinary case five and a half years of fighting the British
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government with them deliberately draining me of resources by using every trick in the book
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I had to think of ways to get better from the PTSD which was diagnosed so I decided I looked around
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and I thought well I think the best thing I can do is use the information which had been provided
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by Niels Meltzer the um UN special rapporteur on torture so we managed to get two huge letters
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published in the Lancet about the psychological torture but so I formed a group called doctors
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for Assange I didn't plan it I just did it because that's what I knew about how to form a group
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how to make contacts and we ended up with about 260 psycho psychiatrists from all over the world
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opining on the psychological torture of Julian Assange so we pulled a letter together
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I thought well let's go for the the big one the Lancer you know let's get this in the Lancet
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and I became a kind of friend if you like of Richard Horton and he got the first one published
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in February of 2020 the second one both were huge letters with appendices uh one was a long letter
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with a short appendix or short appendices and the other was a short letter with long appendices so
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they're both about 30 pages long I couldn't believe it in the Lancet about Julian Assange
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and so we were accusing four states of psychological torture of one human being
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Julian Assange and those states were um Sweden terrible we highlighted Sweden because they
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they were playing the dirtiest game of all you know you in a way I'm sorry about to say this
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about the United States but you couldn't expect any better from the United States
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so they were there of course and of course the United Kingdom was there
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and um and the other state was Australia we highlighted Australia hiding in the background
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with an Australian citizen the reason I mentioned this is because from June 2020 when we together
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with one of my sons we who's now a lawyer at Lee Day which is a famous human rights firm in London
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they only take plaintiffs they don't have any corporates or government um sponsors as it were
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or customers or clients I should say um so my second son helped me of second of three sons
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and I don't think he understands to this day well I do think he it was very important for me
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it was important for him because we proved how much you can achieve if you have a good strategy
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if you if you so we got these letters published I like to think that we actually helped Julian
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Assange because we documented the psychological torture of Julian Assange and we were signing it
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with all these psychiatrists from all over the world um and anyway point I mentioned out so from
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June to December I put a letter together about Covid-19 my developing understanding of what was
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going on and my aim the whole time was to present it to Peter Horton at the Lancet
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so eventually I put it together as best I could because I
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you know it's a tough time that five and a half years and it takes time to recover and um and so
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I did as best I could I was uh you know I couldn't carry some people they were they wanted to do this
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and that you know and I thought I must trust myself here because I think I know what I need to do um
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because of the the case but also in 2003 I'd had a a massive case with David Kelly so we essentially
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changed public opinion in the United Kingdom from suicide to murder using medicine and our
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knowledge of medical law so I had good feelings and I knew that even with the PTSD so I knew what we
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had to do I dropped the ones that we needed to drop if you understand me because they were holding
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us back so but we had a lot of people still on board and I created this draft of a of a
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letter essentially for the Lancet so I presented it to Peter Horton and uh he was on you know in
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June of 2020 I think he was um he was uh by the way Charles I'm not going to ask any more questions
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after this but it's an important point um uh in June of 2020 Horton I think it was June of 2020
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May or June he was on question time which is a BBC flagship program you know where they have the
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audience there kind of I think it's selected they say it isn't um and um and Richard Horton was one
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of the panelists and so uh and and the public can ask questions of the panelists you see
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so anyway I remember Richard Horton remonstrating on the stage I think he was standing up I was
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simply remember him standing and he was saying it was an absolute disgrace the response of the
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British government to COVID-19 I wasn't sure what he meant by that whether he meant it was you know
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a disgrace that they were psychologically torturing the British public with uh the
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nudge units and all this you know so anyway point is I prepared the the article for him because I
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knew that he I thought like to think he was a good guy you know because he had helped me with June
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Assange um so I thought he would help me when I kind of presented what we had it wasn't doctors
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for Assange obviously it was kind of the precursors of this group but I thought he would you know say
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well frost's got history you know we published those two letters so I need to have a look at this
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so I sent it to him the draft in December of 2020 I finally pulled it together at least
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partly to my satisfaction I knew it wasn't fully there um but it was pretty good and um
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and I sent it to Lord Sumption as well um he didn't even thank me for it he'd asked for a copy
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when I when I completed it but he didn't thank and I pulled it I told him off for not thanking me
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so anyway um Richard Horton was very polite he said Stephen I think you know this but I can't
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publish this about COVID-19 so if you would like to write with me James to Richard Horton
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we can do a kind of or if you know anybody a doctor who would like to write to Richard Horton and
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ask him why he didn't publish I'll send it to you if you like and I think that might be something
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good to do and expose Richard Horton he can't be saying that was it 60 percent of the literature
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which he publishes is fake and retain his job that should be pointed out anyway thank you so
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much James well thank you so much Dr Stephen I didn't realize that um you are a veteran and
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thank you um for your service um and um I didn't realize you know that yeah I've got skin in the
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game I'm sorry to say it's sad PTSD I think a lot of us have it I know from what I've been through
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and I agree with you James it's very under underdiagnosed I need to understand it I found
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a book that was um um that somebody sent me and and I was on one of these large um talks and a
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former military officer and former I think a senator his name is Tim Murphy PhD and he sent
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me this book The Christ Cured and I've been kind of going through it it's a good book I think it's
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kind of me but you might check it out but there's so much in this world that's making everybody crazy
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um yes I agree so one of my questions for you James when you were talking I just trying to think
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of the broad picture you know um so um do you think that they deliberately um attempted to
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destabilize human beings in 2020 was it deliberate were they deliberately trying to instead of
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curing them from a so-called pandemic which in my opinion was this pandemic was they was the whole
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thing about destabilizing human beings so they could control human beings in the future and that
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was 2020 was if that's the case then we really need to expose these bastards I think that absolutely
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is the case yeah so you know as I've thought James I think huge numbers of human beings now
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are suffering from Stockholm syndrome they have not recovered from 2020 2021 2022 even people in
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this group that's exactly right and and I go back to prophet Isaiah in the Torah you know Isaiah
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is it chapter 5 verse 20 woe to those who call put evil for good and good for evil darkness for
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light and life for darkness and bitterness for food and food for bitterness there's you know
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too many people are just Greta Thornburgs they're just ignorant fools and they don't know their
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history they they don't know Jewish history they don't know world history they're just stupid they
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just listen to the masses you know and I'm sorry to ramble on this but my friend
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from Israel his name is Amir Sarfati I don't know him personally but I followed him he posted
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something the other day that profoundly affected me and I and I'll read it there's something this
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is the kind of shenanigans that are leading up to just cataclysmic end I think of this world
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that's actually prophesied but Amir said this there's something about Israel that makes people
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uncomfortable and it's not what they say it is they'll point to politics settlements borders
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and wars but scratch beneath the outrage you'll find something deeper a discomfort not with what
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Israel does but with what Israel is a nation this small should not be this strong period
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it has no oil no special natural resources a population barely the size of the mid-sized
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American city they're surrounded by enemies hated by the United Nations targeted for terror
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condemned by celebrities boycotted slandered and attacked and still they thrive like there's no
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tomorrow in military in medicine in security in technology in agriculture in intelligence
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in morality in sheer unbreakable will they turn desert into farmland they make water from the air
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they intercept rockets midair they rescue hostages under the nose of the world's worst regimes
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they survive wars that were supposed to wipe them out and win the world watches and this
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they can't make sense of it so they do what people do when they witness strength they can't
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understand they assume it must be cheating it must be American aid it must be foreign lobbying it
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must be oppression it must be theft it must be some dark trick that gave the Jews this kind of
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power it must be blackmail because heaven forbid if it's something else heaven forbid it's real
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heaven forbid it's earned or worse destined the Jewish people were supposed to disappear long
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long time ago that's how the story of exiled enslaved hated minorities is supposed to end
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but the Jews didn't disappear they actually came back home rebuilt the land 2000 years later
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revived their language and brought their dead back to life in memory in identity and in strength
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that's not normal that's not political it's biblical there's a whole cheat code that explains
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how a group of people returned to their homeland after 2000 years there's no rational path from
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gas chambers to global influence and there's no historical precedent for surviving Babylonians
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the Romans the crusaders the inquisition the pogroms and the holocaustians still showing up
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to work on Monday and Tel Aviv Israel doesn't make sense unless you believe in something beyond
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math this is what drives the world crazy because if Israel is real if this improbable ancient
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hated nation is somehow still chosen protected and thriving then maybe God isn't a myth after all
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maybe he's still the story maybe history isn't random maybe evil doesn't get the last word
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maybe the Jews are not just people but a testimony
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who wrote that yeah but this is the world we live in every nation now almost every nation
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as prophesied in Zechariah will be against Israel who wrote that the quote that that's
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that is written by an incredible former Israeli defense officer his name is Amir Sarfati
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and he lives near Jerusalem and so James I think it's gaslighting I think it's gaslighting the same
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with the Ukraine the ridiculous notion that Ukraine could ever beat Russia in a war and
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and you know everyone in the United Kingdom was invited to believe that within a week of the war
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starting Ukrainian flags were being flown in British gardens the first flag I've ever seen
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flown of any nationality the Ukrainian flag flying in British gardens within a week of the
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announcement of the start of that war in 22 and it's just ridiculous you know it was always
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ridiculous it's still ridiculous but Trump doesn't say what you've just said which this doesn't make
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sense about Israel it didn't make sense about Russia and Ukraine and it still doesn't anyway
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brilliant James thank you so much thank you for sharing thank you for sharing that James and
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Stephen thank you for the questions and amazing food for thought everybody what makes the world
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tick all right we've got lots of hands up Jim so we will go with one thing I wanted to bring to
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your attention in terms of our future and it relates to Jerome Corsi last week he announced to
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us that his next book would be on transhumanism and Avery Brinkley who was a regular attendee here
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he shared a piece and Paul Alexander published it this morning on the thread of AI and one of the
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geniuses behind AI says you know we're in serious danger from this so I'll put the link into it it's
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a very interesting proposition I've been saying it for 10 years and the question you know it's
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might be something that we talk about but Jerome was going to be talking about transhumanism
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in his next book those books three of his trilogy so I urge all of you to think about what
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the dangers of AI are and its self-assembling machinery capabilities which is certainly happening
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thank you Sebastian
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Dr Thorpe good evening again and thank you for your dissertation on the whole COVID experience
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which I think we do have to continually repeat because if we don't we're going to lose track of
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this but I would like to ask you if you've if you've ever gone on to other studies
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specifically I would like to refer to the this is not okay Charles Charles
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it is the the Robert Koch Institute which had a study of the of the influenza in Germany
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and it was strange because when COVID broke out I actually went into the data into the
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Robert Koch Institute I also read a lot of information that they were giving out
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and some of it you can't attain anymore and specifically the year 2017 to 2018 Germany did
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have an extreme influenza outbreak and we had all in all we had three hundred and thirty three
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thousand plus cases of which the death rate was within I'd like to emphasize this within three
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months 1665 deaths where I'm now looking at the data that we're seeing for 2022 2023 as well as
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from 2019 to 2020 etc etc just 22 to 23 we had 292 300 plus and only 1026 deaths so I do have to
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ask myself when did this really start is it really COVID I don't think so and if so it I
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believe personally that it's a biological weapon but were you able to get gather data from other
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countries considering that Germany is 83 million plus so roughly a quarter of the U.S. population
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a significant amount of data right there considering the size of the country also
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great question Dr. Sebastian. No not doctor thank you but not doctor.
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Well it's a great question nonetheless and we we have published on the metrics of around the world
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of many different countries and and we looked at many different outcomes including
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the tests per capita the deaths per capita the diagnosis of COVID-19
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viral illness per capita and you know I can I can drop that into the chat but it's very interesting
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because it does I believe maybe support your hypothesis in that what we found was that
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the more you tested the more cases of COVID you have the more you tested the more people
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have done so I think that from that study and I'll put that in the chart
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and my research group published that in 2022 I think it was 2022 but you know you bring up
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a very interesting point I try to study as much as read as much as I can but remember I'm an OBG
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high-risk OBGYN doctor and and I do you know this is my area of expertise I'm I'm still
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practicing now for 46 years so I feel very qualified to talk about stuff in my wheelhouse
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you know um yes I publish outside of my wheelhouse and I study outside of my wheelhouse but
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I don't think that I have your expertise I will say that I I followed a lot of people
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in the world that I have tremendous amount of respect for I'll name some of them off I think
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some of them have presented here Dr. Anna Mihalsha MD PhD you know Denis Van Kloet many that take a
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viewpoint of you know the respiratory virus was not real or even further extreme there's no such
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thing as viruses and you know I respect people on both sides of that argument my own bias is that
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it's hard for me to get away from the fact that in my reality in my world there are viruses
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and I I won't go into all the details but it's a it's a really really great question and
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unfortunately I don't have the answer to it and the same can be said by the way for this
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self-replicating um um I'll say units of computer devices at the basic level within your blood after
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the vaccine I respect several who will stake their life on it and several who say it's all
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made up and it's all artifact you know and and both people have been on this program
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I I can't make a decision where I lie because I don't know
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okay well thank you very much James so Sebastian or Zahriel is from the Durand and he can arrange
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for you to be interviewed if you wish by the Durand it's very influential it's I don't think
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it's big in numbers but they've got the brilliant Alexander Mercouris there um
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well I that's just one of them isn't it Sebastian but anyway maybe you can
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uh send an email to me uh Sebastian I'll pass it to James sure okay thank you all right thank
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you Sebastian okay Albert baby our vares man uh thank you gosh we got we got the A team here
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and I apologize to the audience up front but uh uh Dr Thorpe is is like my big brother
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my big brother so I call him Jimbo so how you doing Jimbo I'm doing great Albert thank you
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so my question my first uh quick question was I put a couple of images in the um in the comments
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section and it had to do with uh PRR and I know you're familiar with it uh these images and I
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know that I showed you a one time working um um with uh Stephen Rubin the creator of medalerts.org
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who came out with a PRR tool uh that was um got a lot of help from Wayne at varesanalysis.info
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for that and but I bring all that up because as you know the medra codes aka the symptoms which
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aren't technically ICD-10 codes um we always talk about the lowest level of medra codes aka symptoms
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but it there's actually five levels that rolls all the way up to organ class and when you do
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analysis at organ class you can clearly see that the reproductive system and breast disorders
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organ class jumps up to number one by far um beyond endocrine and cardiac whatever they have
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defined as all these different uh organ classes what organ class was it that stood out again that
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which reproductive system and breast disorders was the number one organ class
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male and female male and female wow I was not aware of that yeah so the question was
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would you be interested somewhere down the line to put out a paper kind of like what you're doing
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already with these PRRs but to show the PRRs at at every level especially the highest level organ
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class because what's happening at least in the VAERS data is that these miscarriages and fetal
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demises are so discounted by the definition of what VAERS says is considered a serious adverse
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event which is basically hospitalization and above so a lot of these demises like miscarriage they
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don't rise to that level and they get discounted because they're they're considered not serious so
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not serious miscarriage and that's why you can't really see it but when you do it at the PRR
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fifth level organ class all of it it just jumps out and sticks out like a sore thumb
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I'd be fascinated to work with you on that um I'd be you know you're way above my area of expertise
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in VAERS as you are the rest of the world not not real not really I will say this with regard to the
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PRR you know I've started relabeling in our most current paper remember in the paper that you and I
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first um in 2003 with Mike Descovich the PhD DOD right you won't mind me calling him out now
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but remember we went through this incredibly sophisticated process using Monte Carlo simulations
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we used the Poisson e distribution to compare disproportionality but we called it a PRR
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and in many experts eyes that's fine it's one in the same but in other experts eyes it's not so
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remember in that paper we did it we did the Poisson regression and the Poisson e test of
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disproportionality although we followed it a PRR it was the same whether we did an adverse event
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per shot adverse event per person vaccinated or adverse event per time so in the paper subsequent
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to that that by the way you have been an author on I think Julie Threat was an author on it
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um God bless her I hope she's doing well um but we um we only use the PRR or um we only use the
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distribution per time because if you do it per shot and per person vaccinated it was so thousands
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of hours so that's a proxy but I've spoken to a lot of experts so many different opinions I spoke
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with Martin Koldorf now that's on ASAP and he goes you know Jim it's probably best to call that
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an odds ratio per time rather than PRR which I think that's good so that's what we've done on
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on our paper um subsequent papers but I'd love to work on this project with you
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and so with the PRR if you remember it was Zach Stibert the journalist from the Epoch Times who
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got that FOIA of the PRR information from the CDC and then when he got it he somehow worked with
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Josh Getscow and Josh Getscow through Substack and his social media presence got that information
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out and um with that uh I like Josh Getscow myself uh I do too found him in the beginning and um
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might be too much information but he's he's also a San Jose kid and his father still practices
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still practices here in San Jose so I knew that he was he was on our show you shared that with me
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yeah good so I hope to I hope to meet him next time he's in he's in town um and I actually pulled
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out this this book here which you can't really see this is my advertisement this is the Santa
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Clara County Medical Association physician directory back in 2002 I'm getting long in the
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tooth when I had a billing company and Josh's dad's picture is in is in this book oh wow
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anyways that's all I got Jimbo God bless you all right thanks Albert good job
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okay Julie you've been unwell yep went into the hospital hey there hi Jim hi my
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best friend in the plant he's the most amazing guy you you know God bless you I'm so uh sorry
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to hear all the travesty you've been through yeah I tell you these uh these vaccines just keep on
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giving and um you know this anemia that I suffered major blood loss my my hemoglobin was 2.4 they
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said I should have been dead so thank God for a strong heart but um I appreciate your support
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got me off the road so I'm not on the road with Ron today but I am fighting the pharmacy industrial
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complex as you know because CVS here in Chico after I got out of the hospital decided to
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withhold my two medications the hospital prescribed because I was anti-vaccine I literally
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read that to my face yeah and you should sue them yeah so I'm going to the California State
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Border Pharmacy and I filed a complaint there but anyway enough about me um I two questions for you
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so you know my daughter um who's of childbearing age her menstrual problems really started back in
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eighth grade with the HPV shot the Gardasil shot which again did so much damage not only to her
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ovaries but her entire eighth grade soccer team she was an elite athlete all came down with
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exercise-induced asthma right after that you know required HPV shot for eighth grade entry so my
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question for you and again I was pro-vaccine until these two shots of Moderna destroyed me
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and four shots killed my mother and then once I got fired for refusing a booster I started
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researching everything and now I'm a vaccine abolitionist so um I'm finding that these poor
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young people these these women and and pregnant women they're still under assault by other
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vaccines can you just confirm that there's just not a one that any pregnant woman should take
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1000% no pregnant women should take any vaccines not a one I mean they're pushing the Tdap on the
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third trimester it's just absurd it's just so upsetting but um you're absolutely right I I you
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know maybe one possible exception you know I could even think of but still it's not proven safe or
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effective and that would be if a woman became pregnant and had a baby and had a baby and had
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pregnant and she didn't have a spleen one could make an argument that she is at risk for dying
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from pneumococcal pneumonia and should get the pneumobacteria that's that's the only exception
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there's there's no doubt us to say it's safe or effective in that regard yeah it's just absurd I
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just you know I um you know recently Dr. Mulholland came out and said that I guess Trump and RFK Jr.
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are close to pulling the COVID vaccine off the market we're all skeptical right and we're all
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like yeah really seriously close every single day people are dying from this shot it should be pulled
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day you know today but my second question is your your association of ob-gyn's right who are just
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defying all logic and continuing to push these shots as is the as the pediatricians how do you
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tackle taking that association either down on who's in charge of it how do we get that group
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you know basically disbanded if at all possible and thank you for your time today
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well thank you so much and I'm praying for you Julie you're an incredible warrior with all these
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health departments you're showing up to with um you know I just keep speaking the truth and um I
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got to give Maggie my wife the credit um for um really slapping ACOG silly with her freedom of
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information and at request because she proved they were corrupt she proved we proved I helped her
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craft that request they didn't know who we were back then they should have done their homework
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they certainly should have done their homework with Maggie figuring out she was an attorney that had
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busted some very large global companies for fraud um and and so but they didn't and they spilled
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the beans um the only way we can take them down you know they're defying uh RFK J. Bhattacharya
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and Marty Macri declaration you know that we no longer recommend COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy
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thank you Jesus you know six days after I testified in the synod as to such I don't know
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if it was related to that but I was elated to hear it but you know the American Academy of
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Pediatrics the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology the American College of Ob Obstetricians
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in Gynecology and the Society of Maternal-Fetal Medicine are basically giving their middle finger
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to RFK Junior uh Macri Marty Macri and J. Bhattacharya and you know they didn't even put it up on their
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website so all their underlings this is why it's hard to clean the swamp up you know um Dan Bacino
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he can't go in there and clean everybody out because he's got everybody all the underlings
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that were put in by the last administration that are blind and spiritually deaf they can't see
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they can't see truth God has put scales over their eyes you know they they they still
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think that there's your whatever gender you want to be these organizations my organizations won't
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allow us to publish pregnant woman it has to be pregnant person I mean this is their level of
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delusion and it's like right out of Romans one
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thanks Julie yes it's a pregnant person hey there we go Jim
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and then Vera
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hey Jim Jim take your time
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uh is that better let's try that better let's try okay um so uh Jim I put in I sent you a text and
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I put it in the chat a article written up from Israel about increasing fertility are you familiar
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with that article I am not familiar with the article I plead ignorance okay take a look at
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it I texted it to you in case you can't find it in the chat um it's a it's a study showing
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increasing relative fertility in Israel and um understanding Albert Borla is a veterinarian
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who specializes in immunocastration castrating with a series of vaccines
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is um yeah could the could this infertility as seems to be uh well fertility seems to be increasing
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among certain groups in Israel and decreasing among others is there a Jim Jim I'm sorry to
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interrupt yet because I'm not hearing really well are are you are you saying that infertility is
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increasing no I'm saying fertility is increasing in certain groups and decreasing in others
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that's interesting I mean you're familiar with you're familiar with the study from
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Czechoslovakia right by right by Menas if you could send to me I'd appreciate it because you
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know there's so many studies and I don't know that I recognize one from Czechoslovakia I just
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so I hopefully will be a little more accurate but I'll but I want you to take a look at that article
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because it shows increasing fertility among certain people and my question is about ACE2
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receptor mediated infertility ACE2 receptor mediated infertility um the ACE2 receptors are
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highest per square centimeter in men's testicles and there are high ACE2 receptors I believe
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in women's ovaries and this made me the and the ACE2 receptors are on the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein
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is this the is the ACE2 receptor the mediated uh position from which the spike protein attacks
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fertility Jim that is such an incredible question but nobody knows other than God
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this is exactly the kind of stuff we're trying to focus on in the advanced biological research
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group abrg.org such an incredible question but nobody has the answer to it and nobody
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I think the research on I think they have and I think the people who invented the SARS-CoV-2 spike
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protein know and because you run these tests on supercomputers beforehand protein synthesis and
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things like that I'll talk to you offline about uh about that and maybe I can suggest some questions
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with you and Dr. Hatfield about how you could find out and how you can possibly inquire
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to the intelligence agencies who may know more than they are letting on
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my um and I have if I may I will ask another question no is this is this Jim Thomas
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yes ah okay gotcha it's a great question Jim and and then the other question is about
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alternatives to vaccines we're telling these women that we shouldn't they they possibly
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shouldn't get vaccinated because the dangers of these vaccines I agree with that but we need to
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give them alternatives and I'm suggesting as you have heard me before nitrizoxinide
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as a medication that clears hepatitis b and hepatitis c it's an anti-parasitic that is also
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a broad spectrum antiviral stops the replication of measles stops the replication of Ebola stops
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the replication of chikunga virus shouldn't we be off and is safe and by the way is safe
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not only in pregnant women but in infants shouldn't we be offering nitrizoxinide as a
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possible alternative to these vaccines even before people test positive for infections even before
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they test positive for Ebola if they have symptoms treat it first while you're testing or while you're
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waiting for the test to get back what are your thoughts on nitrizoxinide as a early treatment
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and prophylaxis I'd never be comfortable with using it in pregnancy but I think some um if you
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can show me safety data in pregnancy there's none that I could find and I'm really I won't even use
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natural substances in pregnancy because you know the fetus going from you know the flash of light
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at the time of conception to the 64 cell stage the morilla and you know and then you start dividing
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off into the three germ lines you know the ectoderm mesoderm endoderm and on you go this is the most
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fragile the most delicate the most vulnerable artwork of God and it's the most vulnerable to
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any substances and this is why we don't let pregnant women eat sushi or drink alcohol
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so I'm not comfortable even with dandelion root there's no studies showing me safety listen I can
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tell you I can show you a lot of natural substances that that are allegedly safe in general population
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but are very dangerous for pregnant women so you know it's the same thing with natokinase
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I'm not comfortable God forbid it might be helpful but I'm not comfortable with natokinase
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or even large doses of bromelain in pregnancy thank you and I'll give you the doc I don't have
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the documentation on pregnancy I if I said that I misspoke I had the documentation on
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inf use of nitrozoxin and infants and and the use of nitrozoxin and of course we have the
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documented use of hydroxychloroquine in pregnancy and that is proved to be very stable and and they
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say not enough of a good thing so see I could pick out your last name not having it written on
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the screen because I know your brilliant questions Jim you're very kind and so thank you very much
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for answering and I'll get you some more documentation thanks thanks Jim Vera
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haven't seen you for a while lovely to see you very nice I'm really glad that I attended this
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particular presentation because it was very very reassuring in a certain way in particular I I like
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the way you described how you spoke to the family the parents of this 15 year old this is terribly
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important because it's one thing for scientists and doctors to talk to each other and to argue
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about details finesse and develop their theories however what we really need is to assure the public
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that they can make decisions life changing decisions life protecting decisions and that
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you don't need experts they have been told over and over listen to the experts and who were the
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experts well you delineated the the various establishment experts none of them are to be
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trusted none now when I first and I'm not a scientist I'm not a lawyer I'm a survivor
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which gives me tremendous antenna and I know history and when COVID was first announced and
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declared you know this great pandemic and I looked at what they were actually doing I recognized T4
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and sure enough and I live in New York City early on what Governor Cuomo did
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was issue a mass murder order yep okay and you have no idea how people within the so-called
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freedom movement oh no Vera you can't say that how can you say that they they didn't know they
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didn't oh yes they did and now this is what I really want to emphasize and you have a bit too
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which is everything that's been done and the organs targeted are bio weapons and they're
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bio weapon let's just it's never been anything but bio weapon the point is that they realize that
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they've gotten to the point in their plan and there is a they it's an international and they've
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told us I mean actually Klaus Schwab told us you know we need to get rid of populations Bill Gates
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says it all the time and has been doing it in Africa yes vaccines as bio weapon we really need
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to understand that you know and and you've stressed it quite a bit and I'm really glad especially the
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OBGN because you're at the very heart of does the you know do we the population the human population
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do we survive what they plan is not for us to survive and this is the hardest thing for most
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good people to accept people cannot believe in evil that other people can really plan evil well
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yes they can and the reason that they've gotten so far it is because nobody is held accountable
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there were show trials in Germany after World War II but no those were not the major World War II
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financiers and profiteers and none of them were even mentioned and the same clan the same people
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with all those German scientists that were snuck into the United States and taught
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the doctors and scientists at the highest level institutions Harvard Yale the whole bit
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how to do it the Nazi way operation paperclip right correct that's right but it's more than that
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it really because nobody has ever been punished for what they do that's right that is the problem
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and you know really for a while everybody was only the pharmaceuticals but no the
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pharmaceuticals could not have gotten the entire western world to go along with the COVID
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lockdown or anything else it's the doctors people are you know they it's more than instinct
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it's been led to believe always doctor knows best listen to your doctor and as you have
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yourself suffered by this by standing up and and steadying your mind
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this is what if more doctors would have done it the whole thing would have been dead like that
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all it needed you know now it's it's interesting because I've been dealing with this for a very
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long time initially when I first got involved and I heard the term clinical trial controlled
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clinical trials and I said oh yeah whoever pays for it controls it and I was told no theory you
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don't understand and I got a whole you know lecture about what are controlled clinical trials well
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here we are 25 years later and guess what exactly he who pays for them controls it and controls the
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literature completely and not only that you might also mention that the literature the way that
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works it's a scam the people who are the peer reviewers are the ones who have similar articles
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in you know ready to also be so each one is working the field for the other because they're
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all in it together and it's I once gave a talk at a conference where Marcia Angel was there this was
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before she came out with her very famous editorial and at that time when she heard what I told about
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what was being done to children in psychiatric research she was so horrified she said that's so
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ugly that's so ugly she couldn't believe it just ask Peter Bregan I know I mean I'm right yes but
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you see psychiatry led it in Germany Nazi Germany that was the lead lead medical people and they've
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you know their ethos has spread now to even pediatricians what could be what could be a worse
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betrayal of that doctor trust part of it has to do with public health I think that we really need to
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rethink what the heck is public health that's right all that money all that power
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public health who does it trump does it trump does it is it more important than a physician
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patient relationship no it should never trump a physician patient relationship ever that's but
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that's what they told you don't listen to right listen to the experts your doctor is not an expert
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doctors essentially though if truth be told and I you know I happen to have been in a profession
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that no longer exists so I have a degree in librarian library science that doesn't exist
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anymore since everyone does things on their own on the internet you know and so it meant that all
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the faculties had to learn to type before that they didn't it's kind of cute but really this is
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you know this is a whole profession going down doctors have gone along with government edicts
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and those electronic records are now and you know this is no more doctor patient
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relationship at all there's no that's right no more confidentiality none of it
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that changed everything really and the fact that doctors can no longer afford to be in their own
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practice and they're all being swept into hospitals that's right Vera then it is the lawyer at the
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hospital who dictates what you do not no more professional judgment that's right totally
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eliminated and so you know nurse practitioners are at least 10 times less costly
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end of story you don't need doctors and doctors are embracing medicine through the internet
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I mean you don't even want to be near a patient it's it's going in other words the shots are a
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major weapon which they worked on very you know methodically but it's but the the mindset the
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fact that they've controlled people's way of thinking not to question not to question just
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to accept if government tells you to do just do it don't ask questions
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yep well said Vera and the same thing in Australia in 1975 when Medicare was introduced I was a tax
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lawyer at the time income of doctors went through the roof they all had tax problems so I was helping
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them minimize their tax but that's when medicine ceased to be medicine and became a menage à trois
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between between the drug dealer called a doctor the patient and the government and you know
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and that's the doctor that generation so it's 1975 so we're talking 50 years ago this year that that
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system came in in Australia so absolutely correct follow the protocol follow the system as we've
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often talked about here and the lawyers get involved as Jim knows with Maggie his wife being a
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lawyer you know you don't follow the protocol if the hospital doesn't follow the protocol bang the
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lawyers are in big time Jim just one question can I get in touch with you directly do you have
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are you putting your contact I'd love to talk to you I'll I'll I'll write you right now in the
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chat and give you my cell phone number okay thank you very much thank you James you know that Vera
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is a Holocaust survivor don't you um I I didn't remember that yeah she was in a concentration
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camp at the age of seven isn't that right Vera three and a half three and a half sorry
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it's a whole story but yes so she knows about medical ethics going wrong and she knows about
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the Nuremberg code she knows about the the doctor's trial in Nuremberg and and as a result of that
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and they were American prosecutors James they're um rightly so uh I'm glad they but they seem to
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have forgotten so seven doctors were hanged on the second of June 1948 for human medical experimentation
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and the Nuremberg code came out of that and everybody is saying briefing against the Nuremberg
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code because guess what there are 10 points there about medical ethics including most importantly
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informed consent which it goes on about at length but then they came in with the Helsinki
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declarations they watered it down and then everybody said oh doesn't matter but the Nuremberg
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code was indirigible as far as any doctor was concerned that was the intention Nuremberg code
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is like the 10 commandments essentially you can't change a word it's part absolutely legal
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decision and nobody ever questioned it so that's that and Helsinki you can change any time of the
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day absolutely yeah but the Nuremberg code is always the Nuremberg code you can't amend the
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Nuremberg code that was the intention yeah thank you so much Vera thank you thank you Vera we'll
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make sure and Jim I'll send you through Vera's two presentations to this group I'll send you
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the links Jim so you can thank you what's Vera in action Vera I just sent you my cell phone number
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on the chat thank you all right Mark and Stephen I've got to go onto a radio I'm being interviewed
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on radio in about two minutes so sure I'll take over Charles it's okay Mark over to you good luck
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to you thank you thank you Jim thank you very much for a wonderful presentation
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great story what I'd like to ask is you mentioned and I'd like to have it on record you you mentioned
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that pregnant women should not be having anything my daughter was pressurized and unfortunately she
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agreed to have the whooping cough vaccine not once but twice each each time she became pregnant
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she had the whooping cough vaccine what I'd like to know or first of all is confirmation that
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nobody that should not have actually happened and secondly what symptoms could she actually
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be suffering from because she does seem to be getting ill more often she's not COVID
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vaccine you know she sorry it's not a vaccine she didn't take the COVID jabs but this she it seems
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to be having problems after having these whooping cough jabs she I've reviewed all the literature
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in pregnancy on the whooping cough that is pertussis in the United States it can only be given
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what a great bonanza for the unscrupulous pharmaceutical companies it can't be separated
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in the United States America from dpt from diphtheria in tetanus it's given three and
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it's an abomination it the science is fake it was all jerry-rigged pharmaceutical publications
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there's no long-term follow-up and by the way there's there is no credible data suggesting
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even outside of pregnancy that the pertussis vaccine reduced the number of deaths from whooping
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cough that I'm aware of you know I look at turtles all the way down vaccine science and myth so now
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I think the second question you have it it's really impossible for me to tell you what myriad
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thousands of potential symptoms she could have suffered from taking the dpt I just know that
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it's pseudoscience
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right thank you very much great question thank you very much jim thanks so james it looks as I
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need to find some questions for you so um uh but I do encourage people to ask questions because
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you come from uh different places you have different perceptions we all have different
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perceptions and um and much of the time we don't realize this and we need to trust ourselves so
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if you have questions and you're curious you've got someone you've got a leader here to ask on
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he's on the right side of 50 I think um you know anyone who uh is going to be followed by the public
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is going to be on the right side of 50 uh ie older because that's the way in all functioning
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societies things work um and and we know that james is authentic we know that he's uh trustworthy so
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yes that doesn't mean he's going to be right about everything so jim I don't think you're
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you would claim to be right about everything all the time but yeah people are as I said to you on
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the phone yesterday james I noticed that people are completely lost they have no values they don't
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go to church in the united kingdom they don't know the 10 commandments they don't know anything they
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don't know their history they don't know the world map they don't know how many states are in america
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but when I was at school I think most of the people I was at school with I did know um the
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50 states in america and how it could make a good shot at naming them all I can name them all in
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about or write them down in about um five minutes but it's easy to forget one but even yeah it's
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possible to do it but anyway the point is you know what I mean people are badly read they don't think
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it's necessary to read uh they don't have any books in the house it's just crazy and and they're there
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to protect their own children they don't even understand that so generation of Greta Thunberg's
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correct well of course she comes from one of the problem countries Sweden yes so people used to
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say to me oh because my wife is Swedish I lived in Sweden I worked in Sweden as a doctor I trained
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there as a radiologist actually in london and um but the point is that uh people said to me
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oh Sweden didn't need a lockdown you know so Sweden's not got lockdowns I said they didn't
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need it and they said why not because the government already believed that sorry the
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public already believed the government anyway so the totalitarianism had already made inroads there
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that's what I'm saying so James I just want to ask you um I think in order to hold people to
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account we have to kind of understand what has gone on in the last five years do you think that
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there was a pandemic we were told in 2020 that there was a pandemic pandemic was declared so we
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know that lots of lives were told why would we believe that there was a pandemic because I think
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that was just another lie and if you explain that to the public they're very interested
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because of course they suffered um with the measures in the UK and around the world
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because of the pandemic which never occurred in my opinion I don't think the COVID-19 was properly
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diagnosed PCR test you know that was a pile of rubbish but clinically it wasn't properly
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diagnosed people were saying oh loss of taste and loss of smell but in my opinion as a medical
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doctor there was no symptom which was pathognomonic for COVID-19 so if we don't explain this to the
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public they're never going to understand it they're always going to be in a state of Stockholm
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syndrome wondering what the heck happened in 2020 2021 2022 and they're still not well
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so James what do you think well I think you're right it's kind of like 9-eleven um you know it
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was uh the Patriot you know the Patriot Act well it sounded really good right but it was devastating
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it wasn't a patriot patriotic thing to do at all it was anti-patriot absolutely you know once the
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you know once the government takes power they never yield it back they never relinquish it
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I mean if we've learned anything from Adam up until you know the 2000 years before Abraham
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and 2000 years between Abraham and Christ and 2000 years since Christ if we've learned one thing
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that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely
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yeah I can't remember who that whose quote that was power corrupts and absolute power
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corrupts absolutely is it Aldous Hesley I don't um was it uh I don't know was it Burke
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maybe Burke Edmund uh was it Edmund Burke I can't quite remember Kirk Moore will know
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I'm going to go to the questioners they've got their hands up now so Mark um go ahead Mark
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Thank you um uh Jim uh what we've got over here in the UK is currently anybody that is let's say 60
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uh plus right they are being advised to have statins they're advised to have a flu jab
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have a flu jab they're advised to go for a booster covid jab and they're advised to um have now a
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pneumonia uh vaccine jab um this seems to be uh a protocol which is driven by the government
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not necessarily by the actual doctor because um I recently have been asked to come for
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the flu the covid and pneumonia right now I'm almost 70 I don't take any medication whatsoever
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and I'm pretty fit and I'm sure my doctor would say I was pretty fit but I keep getting texts
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asking me to come along for these jabs so is it a question of the let's say the government
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wanting people over a certain age to have these or is it a question that the medical profession
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wants you to have them because they will earn money on providing this service particularly
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with statins because you'll be taking them for life I think your question is brilliant remember
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Edward Jenner in he said 1898 right um or 1798 what am I saying I think it was 1798 Edward Jenner
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somebody fact check me on that the father of vaccines right and and it was he that that was
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trying to treat smallpox and back then and I believe that what they called it back then was
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varicella vaccina
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latin vaccini is cow so that's cowpox that's latin varicella vaccine is cowpox and isn't it
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ironic as John Leake would say and Peter McCullough in their new book isn't it ironic
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that vaccines are named after a cow right because they've been the biggest cash cow ever to mankind
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I mean it's all based on really on embezzlement on money and power on pseudoscience
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self-enrichment and non there's nothing academic it's an ideology it's like a it's like a religion
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it's an ideology
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um so Mark I know about this so people tell me about those texts and various other means of
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communication it's crazy so the people the very people who shouldn't be having these shots
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are having the shots the most exposed people are the the old and the vulnerable they shouldn't be
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having these shots but did you notice the British government and governments around the world were
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saying oh we can't let the 20 year olds have the covid shots you know they weren't saying it like
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that that essentially was the message but we can give it to the old people to protect them but in
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fact they want to get rid of the old people because they don't want to pay them their pensions in fact
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they haven't got any money to pay them their pensions so that's right very true mark you know
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what I'm saying the latest literature on the influenza vaccine it's a failed strategy from
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beginning because it's again it's a rapidly dividing RNA virus forget about a vaccine
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ever working in a rapidly dividing RNA virus number one so it's all based upon computer models
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and number two the most recent study suggests that it doesn't prevent influenza it increases
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the risk of influenza and it increases the risk of para other viral illnesses so it's it's totally
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ridiculous and James wouldn't you agree that if you've got a dangerous vaccine or a possibly
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dangerous vaccine the last person you give it to is the oldest people and the and the disabled
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it's just yes that sounds like they want to get rid of these people I think they do
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there's no respect for them like do like uh it's exactly like Vera was talking about New York
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City's you know but all the stuff all the people and all the sick people in the in the homes for
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the gypsies they went up to the gypsies you know one thing that I've noticed is that
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the big push in the pharmacy they've got a huge poster up asking people if they want ozempic
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and it's kind of like well hang on a minute uh these are these are not people that have been
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recommended it is if you want to pay for it yourself you can come in for ozempic but
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I've actually explained to people that it could lead to serious complications including blindness
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right but they don't seem to be they don't seem to care
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well it's like they if they can get away with it and it doesn't make sense all the better because
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if it doesn't make sense and they get people to believe them and they go along meekly and
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take their vaccine when it's really dangerous for them um that's they've won haven't they because
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they've psychologically they they've taken this person's mind out of existence they've cancelled
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a human being that's what they want to do they want everything to to not make sense so that they
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get people to believe things which they know they shouldn't believe and go and take a vaccine
989
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which they know to be dangerous so they can go on holiday but what's the use of going on holiday
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if you're not well anyway so don't try to make sense of what they say mark just yeah say oh yet
991
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another lie another misleading thing that they're telling the public outrageous anyway um so i'd like
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to hear from kirk more um first and then we'll come to you tom and jessica
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oh you muted kirk
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uh i'll be very brief sorry for um i i guess my hand came down for some reason sir kirk
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sure jim good to see you it did i don't know that the audience was aware that you were knighted
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when was i knighted during during your presentation uh you were knighted the first time you and i met
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on a space three years ago or so oh that's right that's right i was knighted i got the Nobel peace
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prize and the congressional i get the congressional medal of freedom yeah you got it yeah amen bro
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maybe now you're beginning to understand that you are really ironclad now because you know you've
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been let out of jail by the u.s government and nobody can touch you now no no not not anymore
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um hey listen very don't drive that ferrari too fast uh yeah well that's the only way they
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that's why they can't touch me um uh um jim i just wanted to bring up and you i think you and steven
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we're talking about this um in terms of you know um history and uh and and kind of um making sure
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that we don't repeat it um the struggle that i have is um you still don't really know what we
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still don't really know what happened with the spanish flu 100 years ago um it's still a very
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mine you know it's still very much in the minority that this was really not an influenza or i mean a
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pandemic um and you still have to search really hard to kind of find out what the truth is behind
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it um and you know overdoses on aspirin the meningococcal vaccine that was being used and
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2:07:11
experimented with um and you know unless we can do a better job of crafting the narrative to the
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victor you know the victor writes the history books and 100 years from now covid is going to be
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you know kind of memory hold or at least the truth behind covid is going to be memory hold
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with you know the same thing that happened with the spanish flu so that's just my single
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contribution right now i got in really late i was um on another conference call so i missed
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your presentation jim i apologize about that not at all i that's scary to think about what
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the statement that you just made it's a um it's a scary thought well i personally think it's
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incredibly important kirk um what you're saying because essentially what you're saying is
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we have to develop an understanding for this which is sufficiently good to change public
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opinion about what happened in 2020 because at the moment they haven't got a clue what happened
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they know it was wrong but they can't articulate what was wrong and that's not going to be good
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enough for the history books so we have to change public opinion somehow to understand to get them
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to understand you know our version which i think you and you agree that well i don't want to coerce
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you into agreeing with me but i don't think there was a pandemic i don't think covid 19 existed
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it was all a pack of lies everything they said there was no emergency and by the way james and
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kirk because you're both american the american government extended the state of emergency
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re-covid on the tw- on in december at the end of december 2024 after trump had been elected
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but before he became president and that extension is there for another five years now i think trump
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can't have it both ways he can't be saying to the people i'm working for the people i think he's
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doing a lot of good things for america and for the american people but he can't at the same time
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hide the fact because it looks as though it's being hidden that the um state of emergency in
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the united states of america the prep act was extended um in december of 2024 and at the same
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time continue to claim that he's working for the american people he has to someone has to get close
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to trump and tell him what's going on personally so it doesn't get diluted by some advisor who
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doesn't understand and then trump has to take action so he essentially we could write an open
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letter to him so then everybody in the world knows that he's received that letter
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jim or you want me to answer that yeah well either of you either of you so i think
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that's that's been one of my major um that's been one of my major pushes this whole
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you know this whole time the not not only was it extended in december it was extended for five
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years yes prior to that the extensions were six months or 12 months at a time the only reason
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that's extended to you know for the for what it is is so that the emergency use authorization
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part of the prep act can still kind of be um used and is is still in place and it protects
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all of the pharmaceutical companies from being sued and i've said this over and over and over
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again this could end and it should end and it should end immediately and our and our junior
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is the single person that can actually end the state of emergency emergency he is the hhs secretary
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which under the prep act allows him to end it he doesn't have to mention covid he doesn't have to
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mention vaccines he doesn't have to mention anything at all he just says you know we are
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no longer in a state of emergency and i'll tell you what the overnight all of these mrna vaccines
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all of this uh stuff will go away will be completely gone because the pharmaceutical companies will not
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be able to withstand the liability lawsuits that they would be hit with absolutely so in the united
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kingdom in the united kingdom we have um the coronavirus act had it and it was very difficult
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to know what was happening to the coronavirus act and i still don't know because someone
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told me today that in his opinion the coronavirus act is still in operation in the united kingdom
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so i'm going to go and see my mp and ask for this mp to ask a parliamentary question uh
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and they have to tell the truth is there or is there not is the coronavirus act still in
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force in the united kingdom the same thing as in the united states you've got something in force
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which dictates everyone knows that they have to jump when it comes to this including trump it looks
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like so we need to get to the bottom of this because once we've got that out of the way in
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both countries and in other countries then we can make progress but i don't think we can make
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progress until we've got rid of them so sorry about that james um i think it's a very important
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point and i think you know what vera was saying we need to hold people to account otherwise and
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kirk is saying that history will record that we don't know what happened in 2020 if we don't speak
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out we are medical doctors the three of us and we should together i think work to get the the
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message out to the public it's not just about the the vaccinations which were dangerous and not
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effective the lie about that it's about treason this is treason no less anyway
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so kirk do you have any comments or james
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no i think your points are really well taken there's there's a lot of controversy you know i
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i don't um i i voted for trump three times i think you know one one could try to
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paint him as possibly one of the best presidents in the history of the united states of america
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i don't agree with a lot of stuff he's done and i'm i'm really disturbed by a lot of
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including you know putting together all these ai packages and all these bills and yeah just
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it's and not but then there's i have to open up my mind you know there's these famous people
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this artist i'm blocking on his name viva out there in california that was saying that the
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pandemic was planned since the early 2000s and and he claims that had trump been elected president
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he claims that had trump not done what he did all of us would be in concentration camps right now
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fema camps and you know that fena camp threat i mean that was real i mean several investigators
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have looked at fema camps all over the united states of america in every state including
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multiple in florida my own state those were real and what they're saying is that trump had to do
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what he did and put it in or we would all be in concentration camps if we dissented i don't know
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what the truth is well i think trump is extremely talented so i think i know liars when i see liars
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after my ridiculous case you know the whistleblowing case five and a half years of that nonsense
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i know liars when i see them and in 2020 i knew straight away i was being lied to by all the
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governments in the world and nobody else around me in north wales could see it and um but um i
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think that a trump i see i've been looking at him very carefully looking at all his um uh press
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conferences you know in in the oval office caroline levers as well and i see someone who's
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incredibly talented he may you know fear for his life on certain issues he's also extremely
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courageous um and um and he has a remarkable ability to connect with other human beings
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i have never seen anything like it and he works like a dog he is an extraordinary uh guy whatever
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you think of him you know he's not perfect obviously as a human being but he's extraordinary um i think
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we have to assume that he's working doing what he loves his family and he loves america i think he
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does love his family and he loves america he's a bit full of himself to say the least but you know
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it takes all types i he gives me hope i don't see anyone in the whole world apart from you james and
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kirk and a few others jerome um who give and vera who give me hope and um so all the people
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who are attacking trump and they can't name anyone who they prefer to see as the president
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in the united states of america so um i think we have to work with who we've got and i think we
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have to assume my personal opinion is we assume that he's a force for good and we try to get
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close to him and get our message undiluted to him and we are medical doctors so we have
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responsibility to do this amen hey steven i have another show that i gotta jump on too sure and
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i feel really bad because i see a hand up oh what should we quickly do a one minute
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question and one minute answer for the two people with their hands up i can do that
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tom you have your hand up oh sure i can i have a bunch of questions about i'll just ask one
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then and thank you for showing up on the short notice dr paul thomas is suing the cdc he's a
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pediatrician yes i heard uh tom rance who's a lawyer saying that he might actually have standing
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um is there anything we can do to help that along are you aware of that case i i've heard of it and
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i love paul thomas um you know i i that's exactly what needs to be done and you know i'm also aware
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and i'm involved with the case against the fresno hospital that um went after the whistleblower
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chd is behind that case and i'm also being um asked to sue the hospital for the same thing
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that the nurse was suing fresno hospital for so yeah um you know i think we need to stand behind
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this we need we just like dr steven mentioned and vera mentioned and kurt mentioned i think
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everybody's in agreement it's not just forget about it move on cast it no people have to be punished
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or this will happen again absolutely thank you um so jessica richards um uh one minute for a
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question jessica and um we'll try to hold you to a minute for the answer but you know you might
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want to go on thank you um excuse me not having the camera on and thank you dr james so much for
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your time very quick question and it's along the same lines that people do need to be held
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accountable but what about the doctors who took the jabs themselves injected other people they've
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also been injured but some of them and i know some of them still believe it all what happens
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to those what category would they fit into when it comes to being people being held accountable
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wow i don't have a great answer for that but that's a incredible question jenny and um so you
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actually know somebody that they themselves know they were injured by the vaccine they
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oh necessarily know they were injured they are clearly injured by the vaccine because they
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become ill with a non-stop cough except but they themselves don't know they were injured they write
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it off to something else yes okay it's just a nasal drip or it's this it's that or the other
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and even someone not a warned the beginning this is breaking the nurenberg code because it's
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experimental you know so no one can possibly give informed consent for an experiment i mean
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that one cancels out the other but there are still doctors out there who will be held to account but
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they are genuinely in the belief and they've taken they've taken the jabs themselves some of
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them aren't injured by it and they have injected other people they just they are just believing
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it what happens to those it's a really difficult situation yeah it's a very difficult question to
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ask there's so much cognitive dissonance and there's so much shame and guilt um you don't
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think about it jenny not only have they injected themselves which they can never undo
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no your body may be making the bio weapon for the rest of their life and their life's going to be
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attenuated if they really got the jab um yeah not the placebo but not only it gets worse they push
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on their wives their children or their spouses and patients their extended family and then all
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their patients they can never admit to all the carnage death and destruction it's you know i
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i think one of the things that i try to teach my three daughters is to and i try to model this for
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them and say you know call my daughters by name and say hey i'm really sorry i made a mistake i
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screwed up please forgive me and you know i i've tried to do that publicly i've done it before
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publicly i think on this platform you know i guess you haven't ever been an anti-vaxxer okay i'm a
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disabled veteran i've pushed the vaccines um i've taken more vaccines than most of you all i'm an
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old fart right and and yet i didn't come to my full knowledge and clarity that everybody shares on
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this panel until after the turn of the century so i've probably done a great deal of harm and i've
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publicly apologized for that i've repented and asked for forgiveness and moved on but you know
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unfortunately most doctors and nurses don't have the capability the integrity emotionally or
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spiritually or cognitively to do that unfortunately but it's a really liberating thing try it
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get on a public platform and say may i cope a man copa may i ask my copa i screwed up i made a
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mistake i trusted these people i agree but but i do think it's across the board even with ordinary
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people the cognitive dissonance because the enormity of what may be the truth is too much for the
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average person to process and i think some medics it's even worse because it means because i know a
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couple of retired ones that came out of retirement to do it and took the jabs themselves they the
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enormity of accepting or even considering that their whole career has been possibly harming people
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i suppose is too much to process and then to think of well what do you do then have they got to be
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held to account have they got to be punished
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they're already in hell i think at some point good point i'll wait for god yeah when does it get
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go from being held accountable to being vengeful yes good point it's a moral maze jessica but
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we'll sort it out eventually um i just want to ask you one more question james if you've got time
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it's really important thank you since thank you so much jessica for very thoughtful question
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thank you jessica so uh since 2020 james until now five years of this
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terrible times these are dreadful times well they're amazing in other ways because i think
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you've formed new friendships with better people than before but um i mean it's hard not to judge
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our former friends um because it feels like betrayal unfortunately but the point is i wanted
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to ask you in the last um since 2020 the beginning of 2020 what is the most shocking thing to you
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james um you know what did you find the most difficult to cope with the most shocking thing
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in my so i'll give you an example in my case i think i thought human beings were better than
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this i think the best way to describe it you know i really thought that human beings were better
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than this and and so and the other thing i wanted to ask you was you know about the bible um
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and i just wondered whether you could give uh people like me um your best quote from the
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bible for these dreadful times we've been through since 2020
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well that's a great one really putting me on the spot here i um i would i would say that um isaiah
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chapter 40 um you know is is just so so powerful and it's for all of us uh
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you know and and isaiah chapter 43 you know um can you give us an idea of what it says or is it
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difficult to you know why do you say oh jacob why do you say israel you have not known me
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i have disheartened you do you not know have you not heard i am the everlasting god the creator
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of the heaven and earth and i will not grow weary um and it goes on from there
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do you not know have you not heard i'm the everlasting god
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maybe you can come back and give us the app of the the definitive quote read it i mean um and in
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isaiah chapter 3 where he says i i know you you are mine i have engraved you on the palm of my hand
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um joshua chapter 1 three times god commands us through joshua be strong and courageous
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be strong and courageous be strong and courageous three times in joshua chapter 1 and then it's on
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139 where god states that he knew you before conception he had your whole life planned for him
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and um you know i created you in your innermost you know in your mother's womb i knew you
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about the sanctity of life yes and the notion that human beings mere human beings
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who don't even understand the universe they live in it's absolutely huge the universe as far as i
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can understand um and um and the complexity of it they think they can set themselves up
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to other human beings and say your child in order to to live to the age of five in the united
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states of america needs 72 vaccinations i think it is this is just human hubris apparently god
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didn't make us perfectly as he said in psalm 139 we're we're born with a vaccine deficiency apparently
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so essentially this amazing universe um and god man comes along a mere species within that universe
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the last in a long line of dominant species will one day be replaced no doubt um uh he comes along
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and says well actually i know better than god or whoever the creator is um i so the the human
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immune system is not good enough and and i want you to take these shots but i'm not going to tell
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you what's in them and he gets public health which is actually just tyranny it's a tyranny
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we were warned about it in medical school you know so it's public health and who suffers well
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the individual but who's more important the public or the individual i think the individual
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that's right i agree with you and that's the difference between a medical physician and public
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health yes legislator so public health is communism i think taking care of the individual takes care
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of the public by itself absolutely yes thank you kirk thank you so anyway thank you so much james
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a brilliant presentation and we managed to get some um uh kind of philosophy out of you
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towards the end thank you for having me steven thank you everybody mark kirk uh tom you're so
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modest james you stick to you you stick to your lane and you're so modest
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thank you very much for having me god bless you thank you so much yeah