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Shasta, you're a superstar.
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Well done.
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Thank you, James, and thank you, Curtis.
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Is Curtis here?
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Yes, I'm here.
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Thank you, Curtis.
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My pleasure.
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Thank you.
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I'll do my usual trick, everybody.
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And that is Charles.
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Charles, Michelle, the whistleblower is here, too.
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She's here for only half an hour.
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Thank you.
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The nurse.
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She's the nurse in shape.
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Hello, Michelle.
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Thank you for having me.
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There you are.
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Beautiful.
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Hey, sweet Michelle.
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How you doing?
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I'm fine.
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Thank you.
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Michelle, I noticed that we're gaining some ground
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on our fundraising goal.
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Yeah, I love it.
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Wonderful.
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James, I'd be very interested, James, in so you're
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a proper doctor, from what you said.
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I'd be very interested if you do have any thoughts about how
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we re-educate doctors worldwide.
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I'd be very interested.
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But maybe you haven't formulated those thoughts.
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I have formulated those thoughts quite a bit.
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And my message has undergone a tremendous amount
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of revision with time.
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I've tried to study how to better move the movable middle.
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What I found is that when I lovingly present the facts
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to my 98% of physician colleagues that
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have been vaccinated, it's often returned
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with immediate pain and shame.
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injured themselves and others.
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They feel shamed.
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is flashing out and attacking where that shame is coming from.
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I get the same reaction.
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So I'm trying to use a different approach of kind of love,
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faith, hope, and love.
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And try to extend some mercy.
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Now, two or three days ago, Dr. Peter McCullough
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came out with a substack.
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and for this panel.
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He proclaimed that COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy
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are category X. They are contraindicated in pregnancy.
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And they have a black box warning.
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And that's coming from Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Jim Thorpe.
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And we are proclaiming that to be the rule of the globe,
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because the CDC, the FDA, the American Board
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of Episectrics and Gynecology, the American College of OB-GYN,
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and the Society of Maternal Fetal Medicine have gone AWOL.
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They have ignored the safety signals.
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a moratorium on the use of these investigational gene
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therapies in pregnancy.
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And let the world know that Dr. Jim Thorpe, myself,
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will testify in criminal charges and civil charges
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for any physician against any physician or entity in this world
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that is pushing this dangerous, lethal gene technology therapy
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in my pregnant woman.
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Let the world be known that the world experts have proclaimed
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a moratorium of black box warning, category X warning.
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And if that's violated, you're going
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to see me in court if you injure one of my patients.
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Stephen, I get this show on the road.
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Everybody, welcome to today's discussion.
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Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International.
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This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost of Wales in mid-2021,
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nearly two years ago, during the darkest days of the COVID
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scam responses, with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice,
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freedom, and health.
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Stephen has stood up against government and power
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over the years and has been a whistleblower and activist.
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His medical specialty is radiology,
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so he clearly sees through most things.
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Sadly, the need for this group is increasing, not decreasing.
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The forces of evil globally are not disappearing.
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I'm Charles Covess, the moderator of this group.
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I'm Australasian passion provocateur,
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and my jacket is red because red is the color of passion.
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I practiced law for 20 years before changing career
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30 years ago.
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And over the last 11 years, I've helped parents and lawyers
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to strategize remedies for vaccine,
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damage, and damage from bad medical advice.
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The people who attend this group are indeed passionate
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about the aims of this group.
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We comprise lots of professions, doctors, lawyers, naturopaths,
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homeopaths, healers, journalists, engineers, writers,
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researchers, scientists, filmmakers, dentists, nurses.
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a whistleblower, investors.
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Historian, you're a great writer.
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Historian, philosopher.
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primate experts, thinkers, peacemakers, and troublemakers.
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Czech Republic, Germany, Austria, and from other places.
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If you're from elsewhere, put it in the chat.
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If this is your first time here, welcome and feel free
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to introduce yourself in the chat.
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We ask that you show your name on the screen
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so we know who you are.
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If you are here to troll us,
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I have one message for you, get stuffed.
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If you publish a newsletter or a podcast,
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or you have a radio or TV show, or you've written a book,
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put the links into the chat so we can follow you,
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promote you, and find you.
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Curtis Cost has a sub stack.
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Jim, do you have a sub stack?
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I think you do.
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No, I do not.
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I'm on Twitter.
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Excellent, Jim's on Twitter.
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This group meets at least twice weekly
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in a true spirit of exploration and discovery
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to increase our understanding of what's going on
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and how to more effectively preserve and fight
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for truth, ethics, justice, freedom, and health.
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Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III
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and there are various battle lines as part of this war.
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Some of us would believe we're in a continuation
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of World War II.
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Most of us understand the development of science.
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The wonderful author Michael Crichton wrote,
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"'When someone tells you the science is settled,
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reach for your wallet.'
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Then Carl Sagan wrote,
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"'Science requires an almost complete openness
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to all ideas.'
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On the other hand, it requires the most rigorous
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and uncompromising skepticism.'
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This meeting runs for two and a half hours
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after which for those with the time,
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Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting.
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Tom puts the links into the chat if you are able to join.
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We'll listen to our guest presenters,
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Jim Thorpe and Curtis Cost for as long as they wish to speak
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and from Michelle, our whistleblower.
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raise your hand using the reactions tab
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on the bottom of your screen.
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Stephen Frost, by long established tradition,
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asks the first questions.
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There's no censorship in this meeting
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as a free speech environment,
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but we have proper, efficient and effective moderation.
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Be patient with the process of the meeting.
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Different people have totally different views
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about what is important, what is relevant,
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what is nonsense.
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Free speech is crucially important in our fight
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to preserve our human freedoms.
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The tragedy these days is that the majority of people
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would choose security ahead of freedom
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and then end up with neither,
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as Thomas Jefferson famously said.
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This group can help you to identify your beliefs
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and perhaps to help you change those
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that no longer serve you.
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This group can help you raise your self-awareness,
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the crucial factor in your enjoyment
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and experience of your life.
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If you find yourself upset by anything that he said,
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look inside yourself, that's where your upset originates
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and Jim's already touched on that complex
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psychological process of people being upset, being shamed.
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If you're offended by anything, be offended.
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We're genuinely not interested.
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We reject the offense industry that requires nobody
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to say anything that may offend anyone.
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We have a list of nine standard responses
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to someone who claims to be offended
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by something that I said.
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If you want a copy, I'm happy to share it.
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I urge you never to apologize to someone
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who claims to be offended.
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Decide to have an open mind.
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It's the fastest way to learn.
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Although the wonderful Steve Martin famously said,
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I used to have an open mind, but my brain kept falling out.
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We come with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear.
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Fear is the opposite of love.
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Fear squashes you, suppresses you, depresses you.
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Love, on the other hand, expands you,
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energizes you, enhances you.
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Loving those with different views to your own
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is a challenge, and we encourage you
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to embrace that challenge.
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If you have a solution or a product that will help people,
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put the details into the chat.
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If you have links and resources that will be helpful,
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put them into the chat.
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The meeting is recorded and is uploaded within a few days
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on the Rumble channel.
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And now welcome to Jim Thorpe and Curtis Cost
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and Michelle Gersh, what's your surname, Michelle?
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Gersh Mann.
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Gersh Mann, Gersh Mann.
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wisdom and insights.
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And again, thank you, Stephen Frost,
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for creating this group
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and for organizing the presenters today.
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So Jim, Curtis, over to you guys.
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And Michelle, how do you wanna play this?
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what I would like to do is just briefly introduce my friends,
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if that's okay.
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You're in charge, Jim, you're in charge.
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Okay, so I'm Dr. Jim Thorpe,
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I'm a maternal fetal medicine specialist,
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board certified, also board certified,
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OB-GYN doc, I'm in practice now for almost 44 years.
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There's about 25,000 practicing OB-GYN docs in the country.
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and brutally attacked this horrific lie
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that has been perpetrated on my patients globally,
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women of reproductive age, pregnant women,
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pre-borns and newborns.
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a greachous violation of the sacrosanct
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golden rule of pregnancy.
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Curtis is a dear friend of mine.
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He's from CHD, Children's Health Defense.
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He's a brilliant writer and researcher,
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a publisher of a bestseller book on vaccines.
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And his eyes were opened a lot longer than me.
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And then my incredibly courageous, sweet,
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that will remain unnamed.
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and expose from a hospital in central California,
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straight from the administrative supervisor
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of all of women's services,
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exposing a massive surge in fetal death,
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fetal death and stillbirth at her institution
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that began not with COVID-19,
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with the rollout of the vaccine.
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So having said that, what I'd like to do,
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if it's okay, I know that Michelle, you have to go.
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I really like for you, Michelle, if you could,
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to just talk about your journey
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and I want you to talk about the data
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that was given to you by your hospital administration.
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Yes, I'd be happy to.
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Thank you, Dr. Thor.
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So my name is Michelle Gershman
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and I'm an RN in central California.
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to do no harm.
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And along with all the other medical professionals
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that work alongside with me,
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they all took an oath to do no harm.
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I quickly realized after working in the hospital
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that do no harm means nothing
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if it means that they're getting paid.
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And so I realized before the pandemic
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that it doesn't matter how much you're getting paid,
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you really shouldn't hurt somebody else.
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You should not cause harm to another human being.
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And so I've been a nurse for five years.
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and right when the pandemic happened,
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I transferred the postpartum and right away,
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I felt like it was such a blessing
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because I was so happy to finally work with newborns.
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They're healthy and they're a blessing.
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And then the pandemic happened
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and we're all wearing these masks
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and everything was just really depressing.
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that a lot of people poke babies to do these different tests
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and check their blood sugars and give them shots
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and all these things, it didn't feel right.
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before these vaccines ever even came out, the COVID vaccines.
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like I didn't fit in there on postpartum
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because I didn't like poking babies.
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besides the times that I was talked to from my boss.
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were generally healthy and I would send them home.
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these COVID shots came out around March,
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I noticed that babies were,
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there was an increased number of babies
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that were passing away in utero.
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there would be maybe one per month in the hospital.
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it was becoming more frequent like once per week.
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And I started really asking a lot of questions
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like why are these babies dying?
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And all the people around me were like,
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oh, I think it's the pesticides or something in the water.
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Nobody wanted to put it together
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that these shots are harming people.
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because it's just wrong, it's evil, what's happening.
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I received an email that went out to over 200 nurses.
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And the first part of the email said, as you all know,
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there's been an increase in fetal demises.
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And in the month of August, there were 22 of them.
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And that's a record number for the hospital
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that we've never had 22 before.
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And this number is projected to increase.
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And so I just felt so disgusted.
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I'm like, I cannot believe there's not an outrage about this.
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Why are people not talking about this?
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And so right away I copy and pasted that email
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and I sent it to somebody
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who works for Children's Health Defense.
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And from there, that email sort of went viral.
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But, and at first I wanted to be anonymous
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because I was embarrassed that I was exposing this email.
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I was like, no, God put me in this position
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and I'm not backing down.
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Also, my mom was murdered in November, 2021
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by the hospital protocols.
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She was given remdesivir and they treated her so badly
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for being unvaccinated.
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And they treated me also equally just as badly.
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They lied to me and wouldn't let me in to see her.
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And I knew she was dying and they wouldn't let me save her.
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And so that lit a fire in me.
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And so when I got this email in August or September,
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I couldn't not stay quiet.
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I had to send it, I had to expose it.
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And so I did and I have no regrets.
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My work did withhold a $5,000 retention bonus from me.
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And when I asked why I didn't receive that bonus,
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because I'm still employed,
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they said it's because I broke the rules,
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because I exposed that email.
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And so that's where we're at today,
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but I am still employed.
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And I just want people to,
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I think that we need to go back to informed consent
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and people need to stop harming people, especially babies.
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Thank you very much, Michelle.
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I got to tell you that Michelle is the bravest
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and most courageous nurse I've ever met in my life.
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And I love what this woman stands for
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and what her heart stands for.
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And courage is contagious.
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And because of what she did, we have amplified.
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I no longer am the only OBGYN standing by myself.
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We have others, many more now coming out
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because Michelle has been courageous.
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And now I have two other OBGYN whistleblowers in Florida.
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And I'm gonna name them out
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because they're out of the closet and they're strong.
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And they have seen the exact same things Michelle
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and I have seen, which I will vouch
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for the veracity is going on and I will stake my life.
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And I'm honored to announce here too,
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that our publication, which has been in pre-print
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for six months now, will be officially published
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in a major peer reviewed medical journal.
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And not only will it be published,
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it is going to be featured as a lead article.
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And so this is God willing going to make a huge impression
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on the global obstetrical community.
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I don't have high hopes of that
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because they've ignored everything else.
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But I do wanna state that this is
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the most important publication of my career
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and it's irrefutable and undeniable.
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Having said that, I really wanna listen
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and my dear friend, Curtis Cost, whom I love dearly
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and does an amazing job and he's a brother.
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And I would like for him to give us his story
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and his knowledge of his vaccine and his experiences.
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Take it away.
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Thank you that's just so obvious.
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It's always an honor to be in your presence
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and I greatly appreciate you and your courage.
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Same thing, Michelle.
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Just brief background on who I am
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for those who may not know.
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I wrote a book entitled, Vaccines Are Dangerous.
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The first edition of which came out in 1991.
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So I've been at this for over 30 years,
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warning people the vaccines are extremely dangerous
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and they don't work.
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And so when this whole COVID thing came around,
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it was no surprise that I was even before
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it was on the market, I was saying,
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this was gonna be the deadliest vaccine ever.
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And I did an interview with Dr. David Rasnik
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and in the interview, I said on the air
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that I felt that this vaccine had the potential
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to kill billions of people.
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And he immediately corrected me,
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he said, Curtis, maybe not billions,
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maybe hundreds of millions,
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but it could have been more than a month or less
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that he got back.
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He said, Curtis, I think you're right.
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We don't do something, this vaccine has the potential
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to kill billions of people.
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And so I was not surprised,
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even though I wasn't aware of the situation
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with the giving of these COVID shots to pregnant women
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until Dr. Shasta Erickson put me in contact with Dr. Thorpe
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because I've been to so many angles to this whole issue.
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That was one that I really explored.
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And when I did my first interview with Dr. Thorpe
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and Michelle Gershwin, I was blown away.
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I mean, I've seen lots of evil,
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many bad things over the years
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because of the research that I do.
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And I developed a very thick skin,
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pretty much like doctors have to do.
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I mean, in order for them to be effective,
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they can't be squeamish, obviously.
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But this one really got to me
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because they're harming, they are poisoning,
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they are attacking pregnant women.
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And that's like a sacred violation.
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That you're not supposed to harm women
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or pregnant women especially, pregnant women in the baby.
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It really profoundly shook me up
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that there are people out there,
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I'm not even sure if they qualify
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as being a part of the human race anymore,
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that are so evil that for profit and other agendas,
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they will put known poisons into the body
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of innocent, trusting pregnant women
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and their fetuses, their babies to be.
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It shook me up so bad that I made a commitment
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to try and do what I can.
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And so I did do a, I did publish the interview
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I did with Dr. Thorpe and Michelle on my Substack
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and I put it out to my networks to get out there
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and the feedback has been overwhelming.
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And I then followed up with a forum
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which I had Dr. Thorpe, Michelle Gershwin
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and several other doctors that Dr. Thorpe brought to me,
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Dr. Biss, Dr. Rutherford and Dr. Dan,
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I can't remember his last name.
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McDyer, right.
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And we did this forum that's monumental.
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I mean, as much as Dr. Thorpe and Michelle had conveyed
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in the first interview, this will just
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blew it out of the water.
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The information, I mean, the fact is 80% increase
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in miscarriages and all the adverse reactions
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that pregnant women are having, excess bleeding,
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changes in the average growth rate
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among the pregnant women who got the vaccine
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and all the other details that Michelle
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and all the others put out was just mind boggling.
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I know Dr. Thorpe, Michelle will go into more
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of those details today, but it was just
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absolutely mind boggling.
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So I've been pushing the forum,
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the feedback has been overwhelming.
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And I wrote an article for the publication,
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the final call newspaper.
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That's the official paper of the nation of Islam.
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Nation of Islam has been around for many years
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and they're very popular in the black community,
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their publication, the final call.
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And I was sitting with my fingers crossed
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because I spent a lot of things in publications
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that don't get published.
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It's frustrating, it's been hours, days,
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researching, writing something that doesn't get published,
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but they did publish it this past Thursday.
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And their publication is one of the few
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national black newspapers across the country.
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And they have massive following within their own community,
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but also in the general African-American community
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and other groups that read it
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because they do great research.
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And so now I understand the circulation is like
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over 625,000 nationwide.
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That's not even counting the carry along
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that is other people reading the same paper
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in the same household.
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So the word is out now, especially in the black community,
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they know that these vaccines are dangerous
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and this is gonna be a hot topic in the black community.
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I'm very grateful to Shasta Erickson
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for making all this possible,
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Dr. Thorpe and the others, but I still wanna go further.
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This really needs a number one issue
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for us across the country
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that this is an attack on fertility.
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They are attacking the women,
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they are attacking unborn babies.
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And Michelle was saying 20 at her hospital a month or more.
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Now how many hospitals deliver babies across the country?
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And you multiply 20 or whatever that number might be.
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I don't know what that number is,
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I'm sure it's a big number on a monthly basis.
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This is genocide.
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This is horrendous.
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You can correct me for wrong,
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but I would venture to speculate
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that it would be safer to give rat poison
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to a pregnant woman than this COVID shot.
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Cause at least we know what rat poison is
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and we would know what to do to try and reverse it.
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We don't know what's in these COVID shots.
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All we have really is some doctors have access
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to some vials and have uncovered some horrifying things,
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but we don't have a official list of everything
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in these vaccines.
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And you get each company, I don't wanna name the name,
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but you know the companies,
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each one has their own formulation.
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We don't know what these things will do.
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We don't know what's in all of them.
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And of what we do know from reliable sources is terrifying.
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In fact, I spoke with Dr. Pilevsky recently,
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and I was asking for an assessment
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of just how bad this COVID shot is.
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I mean, what is the long-reaching implication of this?
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And he told me point blank, and I forget,
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he said, Curtis, we will not be able to assess
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the full damage these COVID shots are doing in our lifetime.
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So in our lifetime, we will not know.
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That's how bad.
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Dr. Pilevsky, anybody knows who he is.
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He's brilliant.
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He testifies before political groups all the time.
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He does lots of interviews.
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He's absolutely brilliant.
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And he's a classmate of mine,
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we both went to Vassar College for what it's worth,
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but I was shaken up by his revelation.
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So they're giving experimental dangerous vaccines.
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This vaccine's already killed more people
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than all the other vaccines combined
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over the past 30 years.
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And this is right, you can get it right out of their research.
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So it's the deadliest vaccine ever,
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and they wanna give it to pregnant women.
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In fact, in my interview with Dr. Thorpe,
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he said something else that really shook me up.
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He said that the documents that have been revealed
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from Pfizer's submissions to the FDA
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showed that they had already done experiments
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on rats and mice, on pregnant rats and mice.
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And they were coming out with the fetuses were deformed,
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being born with no eyes, I believe no brain and all.
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Who on earth could possibly think of doing something,
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giving something like that to a pregnant woman?
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That's the level of evil
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that I think the average person cannot comprehend.
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Are these people, they should be prosecuted.
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I mean, these are criminals.
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And even if they didn't invent the vaccine,
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anyone who's given these vaccines with this knowledge,
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they need to be prosecuted as accomplices
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0:29:00
to attempted murder.
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0:29:02
I'm sorry, I'm not a lawyer, but that's my view
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0:29:04
based on what I've learned from Dr. Thorpe,
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0:29:05
Michelle and all the others.
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0:29:08
This is genocide, this is murder,
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0:29:09
and they all should be prosecuted.
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0:29:13
I mean, heads of hospitals need to be put on trial.
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0:29:13
0:29:15
Some of these hospitals maybe should be shut down.
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0:29:15
0:29:17
And these doctors and scientists and nurses
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0:29:19
who are going along with, they all should be prosecuted.
606
0:29:19
0:29:20
I'm sorry, that's my view.
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0:29:22
I must take your hand on behalf of any organization.
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0:29:22
0:29:24
That's my view.
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0:29:24
0:29:26
And so this is a wake-up call.
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0:29:28
I hope everyone here will take the time
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0:29:32
and go to my Substack, CurtisCost.substack.com
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0:29:34
and watch the forum that I did with Dr. Thorpe
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0:29:36
and Michelle and all the others.
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0:29:37
It's fantastic.
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0:29:43
Mind boggling, it's emotionally challenging.
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0:29:45
It's something everybody needs to watch.
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0:29:48
You can watch it for free on my Substack.
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0:29:52
And I'm gonna continue to push this out there to the public
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0:29:53
as hard as I can.
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0:29:53
0:29:56
I think we need to reach out to all the colleges
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0:29:58
and get them involved, let them know what's happening.
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0:29:59
Colleges have newspapers.
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0:30:02
I mean, I published books.
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0:30:02
0:30:04
One of the easiest ways to get things out there
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0:30:06
is through college newspapers, college radio shows.
626
0:30:06
0:30:08
And all these colleges are interconnected
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0:30:09
with all the others.
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0:30:10
We need to reach them.
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0:30:10
0:30:13
And all these women's health groups,
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0:30:14
we need to reach out to all of them
631
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0:30:16
and let them know what's going on.
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0:30:17
They need to hear this information.
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0:30:19
Thank you.
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0:30:20
Thanks, Curtis.
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0:30:21
That was awesome.
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0:30:25
And now I think the panel members in the audience
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0:30:29
realize why Curtis Koss is my hero
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0:30:32
and why I love the man as a brother.
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0:30:35
I will also say this, Curtis,
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0:30:38
you mentioned something that just came into my mind.
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0:30:38
0:30:41
You said, this is more dangerous than rat poison.
642
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0:30:45
And we use rat poison in pregnancy.
643
0:30:45
0:30:47
It's called Coumadin.
644
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0:30:51
Coumadin was the original anticoagulant
645
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0:30:55
and it was called warfarin initially
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0:30:59
because it was actually developed by funding
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0:31:03
from the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation.
648
0:31:03
0:31:06
And thus they named it warfarin.
649
0:31:06
0:31:08
Coumadin, it is rat poison.
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0:31:08
0:31:10
We use rat poison.
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0:31:11
0:31:16
Occasionally we use Coumadin in pregnancy in cases,
652
0:31:16
0:31:18
but it is dangerous.
653
0:31:18
0:31:21
But you're absolutely 1000% correct.
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0:31:21
0:31:22
I love that analogy.
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0:31:22
0:31:26
This vaccine is much worse than Coumadin, much worse.
656
0:31:26
0:31:28
I've used Coumadin in pregnancy,
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0:31:30
especially patients who are pregnant
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0:31:34
that are very high risk for blood clots
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0:31:37
with artificial valves in pregnancy.
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0:31:37
0:31:40
The other thing that I would just ask
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0:31:40
0:31:45
and we can back channel on this is that I want to speak.
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0:31:46
0:31:51
I wanna speak to the nation of Islam.
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0:31:52
0:31:57
I met Dr. Christina Parks who you probably know well.
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0:32:00
I hope you know her.
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0:32:00
0:32:05
And we met at the Mississippi State Senate earlier this week.
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0:32:05
0:32:07
And we met at the, I believe we met at the
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0:32:13
Washington DC Senate as well.
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0:32:13
0:32:16
I think she was there, but anyways, she invited me
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0:32:18
to speak at the nation of Islam.
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0:32:18
0:32:23
And I really want to speak and present our data
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0:32:27
to my brothers and sisters at the nation of Islam.
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0:32:28
0:32:31
So anyways, thank you for that incredible overview.
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0:32:35
And I also wanna, one third thing about Curtis,
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0:32:35
0:32:40
I put him in a category with Dr. Andrew Wakefield.
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0:32:40
0:32:44
Okay, these guys aren't slouches like me,
676
0:32:44
0:32:48
Johnny come lately whose eyes have only been opened
677
0:32:50
0:32:55
recently like 2010, my eyes were opened.
678
0:32:57
0:32:59
And I made a lot of mistakes with vaccines.
679
0:32:59
0:33:04
I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I was pushing vaccines
680
0:33:04
0:33:07
before 2010, I pushed them in,
681
0:33:07
0:33:12
even the influenza vaccine in pregnancy.
682
0:33:12
0:33:13
And I deeply regret that.
683
0:33:14
0:33:15
I know now I've made a mistake.
684
0:33:15
0:33:17
I pushed vaccines in my kids.
685
0:33:17
0:33:21
And so, I'm a human being, I'm allowed to make mistakes,
686
0:33:21
0:33:26
but Curtis cost, Dr. Andy Wakefield,
687
0:33:28
0:33:31
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Attorney, Esquire,
688
0:33:31
0:33:36
these guys had their eyes opened up long before I did.
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0:33:37
0:33:42
And with that being said, Charles, Stephen,
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0:33:42
0:33:44
where would you like to go from here?
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0:33:46
0:33:50
So thank you, Jim and Curtis and Michelle,
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0:33:50
0:33:52
who had to go, Michelle Gershman.
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0:33:53
0:33:55
Stephen traditionally asked the first question,
694
0:33:55
0:33:57
so Stephen to you and then we've got hands up already.
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0:33:57
0:33:59
So Stephen.
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0:34:01
0:34:06
So James, you remember that I was asking you
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0:34:08
about what we need to do with education,
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0:34:08
0:34:11
not just with doctors, but with the public?
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0:34:12
0:34:14
They need to understand what has happened to them.
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0:34:14
0:34:18
In my opinion, everybody has been severely,
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0:34:18
0:34:22
everybody on the planet has been severely
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0:34:22
0:34:25
psychologically tortured into a state of Stockholm syndrome
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0:34:26
by their own government.
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0:34:26
0:34:30
Now, if that isn't going to make people ill,
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0:34:32
I don't know what will.
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0:34:32
0:34:34
So we need to explain this to them
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0:34:37
in language that is understandable
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0:34:42
and also in language which makes them want to understand.
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0:34:46
In other words, not written in civil service speak.
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0:34:50
So I wonder whether you've had any thoughts about that.
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0:34:50
0:34:54
There's just, there are so many aspects to this, as you know,
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0:34:54
0:34:56
that's just on the medical side,
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0:34:56
0:34:59
but then all the other things, it's not just medical.
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0:35:00
0:35:04
So I just want, you may not have had time
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0:35:04
0:35:06
to even consider it, but if you haven't,
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0:35:06
0:35:10
then please, maybe you have some ideas in your head.
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0:35:10
0:35:12
Yeah, yeah, I do.
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0:35:12
0:35:15
I think that the point I was trying to make earlier
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0:35:15
0:35:18
to your question was probably too long-winded,
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0:35:18
0:35:21
but you're doing exactly what we need to do.
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0:35:21
0:35:23
This is fifth generation warfare.
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0:35:27
This has never gone on before.
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0:35:27
0:35:32
I mean, just go back to Germany in the 1930s and the 1940s.
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0:35:36
You don't look at, that was the Third Reich
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0:35:36
0:35:39
and they were very evil people
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0:35:39
0:35:41
and everybody knew they were evil
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0:35:41
0:35:44
and they were killing not on a global basis,
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0:35:46
they were killing on a regional basis.
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0:35:47
0:35:48
And everybody in the world knew
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0:35:48
0:35:50
that the Third Reich was evil
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0:35:50
0:35:53
and knew that they needed to be destroyed.
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0:35:53
0:35:56
Now compare that with what's going on now.
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0:35:57
0:36:00
This is global, it's mass killing.
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0:36:01
0:36:03
The evidence was clearly there,
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0:36:03
0:36:05
but the people don't know they're being killed.
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0:36:05
0:36:06
Exactly.
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0:36:06
0:36:10
The only way we can address,
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0:36:10
0:36:12
this is classic fifth generation warfare,
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0:36:12
0:36:15
there's never been anything else like it in the world.
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0:36:15
0:36:20
Just my government spent over $13 billion of my tax money,
741
0:36:21
0:36:26
our tax money to dispel this lethal misinformation
742
0:36:26
0:36:28
all over the world and kill people all over the world
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0:36:28
0:36:30
and they have no safety data.
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0:36:31
0:36:32
In fact, they have the opposite.
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0:36:32
0:36:35
So what you're doing, Stephen,
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0:36:37
0:36:42
is this is what you're doing every week, twice a week,
747
0:36:43
0:36:45
you're fighting fifth generation,
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0:36:45
0:36:48
you are giving real information
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0:36:48
0:36:50
instead of misinformation to the masses.
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0:36:50
0:36:52
That's the only way I can see to fight this
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0:36:52
0:36:55
and then for me to reach out,
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0:36:55
0:36:57
which I've been attempting to do,
753
0:36:57
0:37:02
the clear problems that I have with my OBGYN colleagues,
754
0:37:05
0:37:08
why are we so diluted?
755
0:37:08
0:37:10
I made a bunch of texts yesterday,
756
0:37:10
0:37:12
there's been a standing joke,
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0:37:14
0:37:16
in many, many decades gone past
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0:37:16
0:37:19
that only the morons went into OBGYN
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0:37:19
0:37:22
in order to qualify for an OBGYN residency,
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0:37:24
you had to be in the bottom 10%
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0:37:24
0:37:27
of the medical school of class, yuck, yuck, yuck,
762
0:37:27
0:37:28
that was a joke.
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0:37:28
0:37:31
And so I kind of expanded on that yesterday
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0:37:31
0:37:33
in several public tweets
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0:37:34
0:37:37
that have been replicated quite a few times.
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0:37:37
0:37:39
It's like, the standard joke
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0:37:39
0:37:41
with the lower 10% of the class,
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0:37:42
0:37:44
in order to go into OBGYN,
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0:37:44
0:37:49
I mean, are we really that stupid collectively
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0:37:49
0:37:52
as OBGYN docs that we would fall
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0:37:52
0:37:56
for pushing a completely novel experimental drug
772
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0:37:59
in pregnancy that was never necessary,
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0:37:59
0:38:01
never effective and never safe.
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0:38:02
0:38:04
In the whole history of humanity,
775
0:38:04
0:38:09
we've never breached the sacrosanct golden rule of pregnancy
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0:38:09
0:38:13
and now all of a sudden, 99% of you are pushing this,
777
0:38:13
0:38:15
have you gone mad?
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0:38:15
0:38:18
Did you learn nothing from Ignaz Phillips-Somowicz
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0:38:18
0:38:21
or from thalidomide or DES?
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0:38:21
0:38:23
Let's rethink this.
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0:38:27
0:38:30
And so James, you'll understand this.
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0:38:30
0:38:33
So you went to medical school and I did too.
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0:38:33
0:38:37
We were taught about ethics when I was at medical ethics.
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0:38:37
0:38:40
It was really big, the medical school I went to.
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0:38:41
0:38:43
And I remembered what we were taught,
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0:38:45
0:38:49
but I was shocked when there was a reunion for our year,
788
0:38:49
0:38:54
the year that I graduated, decided to have a reunion.
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0:38:54
0:38:57
And they were passing emails around the world
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0:38:57
0:39:02
and I wrote to them in 2020, 2021, 2022,
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0:39:03
0:39:08
Christmas email from Stephen Frost to all these doctors
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0:39:08
0:39:11
who qualified with me, went to the same lectures
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0:39:11
0:39:14
about medical ethics and all the other things
794
0:39:14
0:39:15
that have gone wrong with medicine.
795
0:39:15
0:39:20
And not one of the people in my year replied to me,
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0:39:22
0:39:26
even privately, nevermind to the whole.
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0:39:26
0:39:29
So I was absolutely stunned.
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0:39:29
0:39:31
I thought that, so some of my friends were there
799
0:39:31
0:39:34
from medical school, quiet.
800
0:39:34
0:39:38
None of them wrote to me privately, nevermind to the group.
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0:39:39
0:39:41
Three years in succession.
802
0:39:41
0:39:46
And the last was Christmas 2022, just two months ago,
803
0:39:49
0:39:51
just over two months.
804
0:39:51
0:39:54
They're in a cult, James, they're in a cult.
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0:39:54
0:39:58
These doctors are in a deadly cult.
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0:39:58
0:40:00
Cults are usually often deadly.
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0:40:00
0:40:02
This one's very deadly.
808
0:40:03
0:40:05
I just wonder what you think of that,
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0:40:05
0:40:08
about my colleagues from, sorry,
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0:40:08
0:40:11
my fellow students from medical school,
811
0:40:12
0:40:14
terrified of even engaging with me.
812
0:40:14
0:40:17
So, they could have said I was wrong.
813
0:40:17
0:40:18
They didn't do that.
814
0:40:18
0:40:19
They didn't dare to do it.
815
0:40:19
0:40:21
They wanted to carry on doing what they were doing.
816
0:40:21
0:40:23
I don't know what they're thinking.
817
0:40:23
0:40:25
Doing what they were doing and not take responsibility
818
0:40:25
0:40:30
for anything, not reply to me, just extraordinary.
819
0:40:31
0:40:33
So what do you think of that?
820
0:40:33
0:40:35
I think it's absolutely horrible.
821
0:40:35
0:40:37
And I don't want you to feel alone, brother.
822
0:40:37
0:40:40
You're in the midst of a new family,
823
0:40:40
0:40:44
including admirers, including myself
824
0:40:44
0:40:47
and probably everybody else in the world, our new family.
825
0:40:47
0:40:50
I've suffered the exact same thing.
826
0:40:50
0:40:53
I'm a laughing stock of the world.
827
0:40:53
0:40:54
I'm a joke.
828
0:40:54
0:40:55
I'm mocked, I'm scoffed.
829
0:40:55
0:40:56
I'm really-
830
0:40:56
0:40:57
Yes, James, they mock you,
831
0:40:57
0:41:00
but they're terrified of you.
832
0:41:00
0:41:01
That's the reality.
833
0:41:01
0:41:04
They're absolutely terrified of coming near you
834
0:41:04
0:41:08
in case you ask them a question that they can't answer.
835
0:41:08
0:41:09
What do you think?
836
0:41:09
0:41:12
I think that you're right.
837
0:41:12
0:41:13
They're really afraid.
838
0:41:13
0:41:15
And the only way they can deal with me
839
0:41:15
0:41:17
is by laughing and mocking me.
840
0:41:17
0:41:18
Correct.
841
0:41:18
0:41:19
Correct.
842
0:41:19
0:41:23
But I take that as a badge of courage.
843
0:41:23
0:41:25
My skin has really fit because
844
0:41:27
0:41:31
God has given me so many blessings and so many gifts.
845
0:41:31
0:41:36
And one of the most important gifts that he's given me
846
0:41:37
0:41:39
besides the intimate knowledge of my savior
847
0:41:40
0:41:42
is really, he's given me a huge truth
848
0:41:42
0:41:45
like he's given everybody else on this panel.
849
0:41:45
0:41:47
And I wanna point out to you that
850
0:41:51
0:41:53
that is a huge gift.
851
0:41:53
0:41:57
And if you have the truth, everything else be damned,
852
0:41:57
0:41:59
including what other people,
853
0:41:59
0:42:01
including family members think of you.
854
0:42:01
0:42:05
You have a valuable gift and to whom much is given,
855
0:42:05
0:42:07
much is expected.
856
0:42:08
0:42:13
Dr. Steven Truss is doing what he's been asked to do
857
0:42:14
0:42:19
by his creator by doing and disseminating truth.
858
0:42:20
0:42:22
And I don't wanna get too deep.
859
0:42:22
0:42:26
James, so I never kind of planned this.
860
0:42:26
0:42:29
It was the only way in my mind that I could survive
861
0:42:29
0:42:31
in extraordinary circumstances in my country.
862
0:42:34
0:42:36
So I don't really,
863
0:42:36
0:42:40
I just had to do what I didn't even realize
864
0:42:40
0:42:43
that it was in any way important.
865
0:42:43
0:42:46
I just, it was a survival mechanism for me
866
0:42:46
0:42:48
to connect with people around the world.
868
0:42:50
0:42:53
It's exactly what you're commanded to do.
869
0:42:53
0:42:56
And I don't wanna get too deeply spiritual here,
870
0:42:56
0:42:58
but I do wanna point out that this is a battle
871
0:42:58
0:43:00
against good versus evil.
872
0:43:01
0:43:05
It's a pure spiritual battle right out of Ephesians 6.
873
0:43:07
0:43:12
And so I think that there's so much deception going on
874
0:43:15
0:43:20
and we need to just expose the truth
875
0:43:20
0:43:23
and keep doing what you're doing.
876
0:43:25
0:43:27
James, you're a wonderful human being,
877
0:43:27
0:43:29
but you're a great doctor.
878
0:43:29
0:43:31
I can tell that.
879
0:43:31
0:43:34
You couldn't tell a lie if you tried, I'm sure.
880
0:43:34
0:43:38
Well, you could tell a white lie maybe like us all,
881
0:43:38
0:43:39
but nothing major.
882
0:43:39
0:43:43
And so, but you have accepted,
883
0:43:43
0:43:47
your humanity shines through when you speak.
884
0:43:47
0:43:49
People will listen to you.
885
0:43:49
0:43:51
And I wonder whether,
886
0:43:51
0:43:54
so you have, when you speak, you sound authentic.
887
0:43:54
0:43:56
And I think that's what people look for,
888
0:43:56
0:43:58
what human beings look for.
889
0:43:58
0:44:02
They look for authenticity in other human beings.
890
0:44:02
0:44:06
And if they have authenticity, they listen to them.
891
0:44:06
0:44:08
And I think that you and I maybe should work,
892
0:44:08
0:44:09
so we're both doctors.
893
0:44:09
0:44:13
We could, okay, you're in America and I'm in the UK,
894
0:44:13
0:44:15
but maybe we could work on messaging,
895
0:44:16
0:44:20
the kind of messaging that we'll get through to people
896
0:44:20
0:44:21
at different levels.
897
0:44:21
0:44:24
We're not kind of, we can't really work out
898
0:44:24
0:44:27
where people are, but maybe we can have five
899
0:44:27
0:44:32
or 10 different levels and put out our own propaganda.
900
0:44:32
0:44:33
So we don't have to prove anything,
901
0:44:33
0:44:35
everything beyond reasonable doubt.
902
0:44:35
0:44:36
This is my opinion.
903
0:44:36
0:44:38
I'm just asking you whether you think
904
0:44:38
0:44:40
there's anything in it.
905
0:44:40
0:44:42
We need to put out our own version
906
0:44:42
0:44:45
of what's happened in the last three years.
907
0:44:45
0:44:47
And it's been absolutely extraordinary
908
0:44:47
0:44:49
what's happened in the last three years
909
0:44:49
0:44:51
with everyone in the world, as I said earlier,
910
0:44:51
0:44:54
tortured into it by their own governments
911
0:44:54
0:44:56
into a state of Stockholm syndrome.
912
0:44:56
0:44:59
I cannot think of anything worse.
913
0:44:59
0:45:03
So they don't even realize that they've been tortured
914
0:45:03
0:45:04
by their own governments
915
0:45:04
0:45:06
because they've got Stockholm syndrome
916
0:45:07
0:45:10
and it's been done deliberately worldwide.
917
0:45:12
0:45:17
Well, sir, I have many Brit heroes and you're one of them,
918
0:45:17
0:45:22
but the other Brit hero that I have is Sir Karl Popper.
919
0:45:22
0:45:24
And I think you're well aware of him.
920
0:45:24
0:45:25
Yeah, I know.
921
0:45:25
0:45:28
But very famous philosopher and scientist
922
0:45:29
0:45:31
of the century gone past.
923
0:45:31
0:45:33
But Sir Karl Popper said,
924
0:45:33
0:45:38
you know that theories are never proven.
925
0:45:40
0:45:42
They can really only be disproven
926
0:45:42
0:45:45
and they're disproven in only one of two ways.
927
0:45:46
0:45:50
Basically, you can buy falsification
928
0:45:50
0:45:54
and refutation of this words from.
929
0:45:54
0:45:59
And all of us here, we have falsified,
930
0:45:59
0:46:03
we have literally shattered the false narrative
931
0:46:03
0:46:05
of COVID-19 on the vaccine.
932
0:46:05
0:46:08
I mean, we've completely falsified it.
933
0:46:08
0:46:13
So now it's incumbent upon your people
934
0:46:13
0:46:17
that are critical of our theory or our viewpoint
935
0:46:17
0:46:21
to falsify ours and they can't do it with real data.
936
0:46:21
0:46:24
So they can't do it.
937
0:46:24
0:46:29
Science progresses one funeral at a time.
938
0:46:29
0:46:32
And there's a lot more of them dying than there are us.
939
0:46:32
0:46:35
Unfortunately, I don't say that gleefully.
940
0:46:35
0:46:39
Not to get back, and I don't wanna harp too much
941
0:46:39
0:46:41
on the spiritual basis for this,
942
0:46:41
0:46:44
but I do have an important analogy
943
0:46:44
0:46:46
because I was just reading my good book this morning
944
0:46:46
0:46:49
and going through some trauma and some attacks here
945
0:46:49
0:46:54
and there, and I was reading Daniel.
946
0:46:57
0:47:00
In Daniel chapter 12, it says,
947
0:47:00
0:47:03
Daniel, 2,500 years ago,
948
0:47:03
0:47:04
God spoke through his prophet Daniel.
949
0:47:04
0:47:07
He said, in the end, there's gonna be the worst times
950
0:47:07
0:47:09
that this world has ever seen.
951
0:47:09
0:47:14
Check, that sounds like something we could be in.
952
0:47:14
0:47:16
And the next thing that we'll see,
953
0:47:16
0:47:20
it basically says is that most will be deluded,
954
0:47:20
0:47:24
but in that time, there will be those who shine
955
0:47:24
0:47:26
with the light of the stars.
956
0:47:27
0:47:29
And I'm thinking to myself,
957
0:47:32
0:47:36
who are those people that in the end,
958
0:47:36
0:47:41
with mass deception, will be shining light like the stars,
959
0:47:42
0:47:44
just for everybody to think about?
960
0:47:44
0:47:46
And 2,800 years ago,
961
0:47:46
0:47:49
God spoke through his prophet Hosea,
962
0:47:49
0:47:52
and he said 2,800 years ago,
963
0:47:52
0:47:56
Hosea chapter four, verse six,
964
0:47:58
0:48:02
God speaking to all of his creation, all us human beings,
965
0:48:02
0:48:05
my people die for lack of knowledge.
966
0:48:05
0:48:09
And I would ask the audience and ask the panelists,
967
0:48:09
0:48:11
in the last 2,800 years,
968
0:48:11
0:48:16
when has that prophecy been most solidly fulfilled?
969
0:48:20
0:48:22
Yes, very well spoken.
970
0:48:24
0:48:27
James, shall we see what questions,
971
0:48:27
0:48:29
so Pascal Najadi.
972
0:48:29
0:48:31
Yeah, Pascal's, okay.
973
0:48:31
0:48:33
He had his hand up first.
974
0:48:33
0:48:34
Pascal's next.
975
0:48:34
0:48:34
So he's in Switzerland,
976
0:48:34
0:48:37
I don't know whether you know Pascal James,
977
0:48:37
0:48:40
but he's in Switzerland, he's a Swiss citizen.
978
0:48:40
0:48:43
His father was assassinated,
979
0:48:43
0:48:48
unfortunately in 2010, is that right, Pascal?
980
0:48:48
0:48:50
In Kuala Lumpur.
981
0:48:50
0:48:52
His father was an international banker,
982
0:48:52
0:48:55
as is Pascal Najadi.
983
0:48:55
0:48:59
And Pascal has used Swiss law,
984
0:48:59
0:49:01
hopefully it's still there,
985
0:49:01
0:49:02
Alex Brinkley.
986
0:49:02
0:49:07
To lodge a criminal complaint against the Swiss president
987
0:49:07
0:49:11
for his part in what's happened in the last three years
988
0:49:11
0:49:14
as the health minister, I think that's true.
989
0:49:14
0:49:16
So he's the current,
990
0:49:16
0:49:18
he's a sitting president of Switzerland
991
0:49:18
0:49:20
and Switzerland is an important country
992
0:49:20
0:49:21
because as you know,
993
0:49:21
0:49:24
many of the agencies who we don't like
994
0:49:24
0:49:28
are the Bank of International Settlements, for example,
995
0:49:28
0:49:30
the World Health Organization
996
0:49:30
0:49:34
and many others as I understand it, are in Geneva.
997
0:49:34
0:49:38
And of course the World Economic Forum meets in Switzerland too.
998
0:49:39
0:49:43
So he has lodged this criminal complaint
999
0:49:43
0:49:46
and it's now with the Swiss attorney general,
1000
0:49:46
0:49:49
not a state as in the United States,
1001
0:49:49
0:49:53
so the Swiss state's attorney general, as it were,
1002
0:49:53
0:49:56
you know, the highest attorney general in Switzerland.
1003
0:49:56
0:49:58
So Pascal, do you want to go ahead?
1004
0:49:58
0:49:59
Yes, please.
1005
0:50:00
0:50:01
Good morning, good evening, everybody.
1006
0:50:01
0:50:03
And God bless all those souls
1007
0:50:03
0:50:05
that we lost in this process.
1008
0:50:06
0:50:09
What I'm going to say now is very tough.
1009
0:50:09
0:50:11
I'm a military man, I'm a Swiss citizen.
1010
0:50:11
0:50:14
My father was a co-founder of the WEF,
1011
0:50:14
0:50:15
this devilish organization
1012
0:50:15
0:50:20
and he left Klaus Schwab in disgust in 1982
1013
0:50:20
0:50:23
because he realized that Klaus Schwab was gone
1014
0:50:23
0:50:25
down a path of evil.
1015
0:50:25
0:50:28
We had banks all over the world, but that's history.
1016
0:50:29
0:50:34
I have indeed launched criminal proceedings
1017
0:50:34
0:50:38
and progressing against the Swiss president, Alain Berset.
1018
0:50:38
0:50:40
On this note, I would like to add,
1019
0:50:40
0:50:43
for everybody to understand,
1020
0:50:43
0:50:46
the presumption of innocence applies to him at all times.
1021
0:50:46
0:50:49
This is a criminal procedure running
1022
0:50:49
0:50:52
at the highest office of our Justice Department,
1023
0:50:52
0:50:53
the Swiss Confederation.
1024
0:50:53
0:50:57
And I'm dealing with the federal prosecutor
1025
0:50:57
0:51:00
of the Swiss Confederation in this case.
1026
0:51:00
0:51:02
And I have exchanged numerous letters,
1027
0:51:02
0:51:03
registered mail with him.
1028
0:51:03
0:51:07
I have a very good report and I must say,
1029
0:51:07
0:51:11
I can tell you that with certainty today, up to date,
1030
0:51:11
0:51:14
since the 2nd of December when I launched it last year,
1031
0:51:14
0:51:17
this process is crystal clear.
1032
0:51:17
0:51:19
Justice in Switzerland is autark
1033
0:51:19
0:51:23
and up to now functions like a Swiss clock.
1034
0:51:23
0:51:28
Okay, now I'm in the middle of evils then.
1035
0:51:31
0:51:32
Please listen carefully.
1036
0:51:32
0:51:33
I've sent you all a chart.
1037
0:51:33
0:51:35
Did you get it?
1038
0:51:35
0:51:40
Can you please put it up in the chat?
1039
0:51:42
0:51:45
You mean, do you want us to share it, Pascal?
1040
0:51:45
0:51:46
No, yeah, if you can.
1041
0:51:46
0:51:47
I don't know how to do this.
1042
0:51:47
0:51:48
I can do it, sorry.
1043
0:51:48
0:51:50
I'm very sorry.
1044
0:51:50
0:51:54
I'll make you a co-host, Pascal, so you can share it.
1045
0:51:54
0:51:56
Very good, thank you, sir.
1046
0:51:56
0:51:58
I'll do that right now.
1047
0:51:58
0:51:59
How do I do this now?
1048
0:51:59
0:52:02
Just go to share the screen.
1049
0:52:02
0:52:04
Okay, can you see this?
1051
0:52:05
0:52:10
Okay, I've spent $10,000 in producing this page
1052
0:52:11
0:52:13
with two lawyers and one engineer.
1053
0:52:14
0:52:19
This is the exact one-to-one translation
1054
0:52:20
0:52:24
of all the legal clauses that are stipulated
1055
0:52:24
0:52:28
in the agreement that has been voted last Friday
1056
0:52:28
0:52:29
without objection.
1057
0:52:29
0:52:34
I repeat, 194 nations have adopted this draft.
1058
0:52:35
0:52:40
It's called the WHO, W-H-O, sorry, CA plus agreement,
1059
0:52:41
0:52:43
which they are now discussing in high speed
1060
0:52:43
0:52:46
because it, I call it it, I don't call it Satan
1061
0:52:46
0:52:49
because it doesn't deserve even that name.
1062
0:52:49
0:52:50
For me, it's it.
1063
0:52:51
0:52:56
It is scared of me and us because we know the truth.
1064
0:52:56
0:52:58
We have to cut through the bush here, guys,
1065
0:52:58
0:53:03
because, and ladies, this is no, we have no time left
1066
0:53:03
0:53:07
to deliberate about mRNA, nanolipids, nanobots
1067
0:53:08
0:53:11
or graphenoxidin, I have in my body.
1068
0:53:11
0:53:13
I have three shots, my wife and my mother too.
1069
0:53:14
0:53:18
I'm doing concrete things to stop this machine.
1070
0:53:18
0:53:23
Now, the criminal case against my president is ongoing.
1071
0:53:23
0:53:25
It has four criminal charges.
1072
0:53:25
0:53:27
I'm now for the first time revealing
1073
0:53:27
0:53:29
those four charges for you.
1074
0:53:29
0:53:32
Please don't spread them on Twitter.
1075
0:53:32
0:53:34
First, abuse of office.
1076
0:53:34
0:53:38
Second, severe bodily harm.
1077
0:53:38
0:53:40
It's a crime, all are crimes.
1078
0:53:40
0:53:43
Third, election fraud.
1079
0:53:43
0:53:46
Third, fourth, bringing in circulation
1080
0:53:46
0:53:49
a potentially deadly virus.
1081
0:53:49
0:53:51
Okay, that is running.
1082
0:53:51
0:53:53
Justice is on her own.
1083
0:53:53
0:53:54
I will not pressure her.
1084
0:53:54
0:53:56
I will not do any press statements to pressure justice.
1085
0:53:56
0:53:58
There's no need for that.
1086
0:53:58
0:54:02
She's doing her job at her space and in her space
1087
0:54:02
0:54:06
and at her pace.
1088
0:54:07
0:54:09
This is an autopilot.
1089
0:54:09
0:54:13
Now, this chart, does everybody understand
1090
0:54:13
0:54:15
the consequences what this chart says?
1091
0:54:15
0:54:17
Or may I ask different questions?
1092
0:54:17
0:54:20
Does anybody not understand what this means?
1093
0:54:24
0:54:26
And please pick up, don't only to put up the hand.
1094
0:54:26
0:54:27
Let's have a discussion.
1095
0:54:27
0:54:28
It's horrible.
1096
0:54:33
0:54:34
Tom, you're-
1097
0:54:34
0:54:35
We all understand Pascal.
1098
0:54:35
0:54:36
We all understand Pascal.
1099
0:54:36
0:54:40
No, there's some confusion about the treaty
1100
0:54:40
0:54:43
versus the amendments.
1101
0:54:43
0:54:45
Could you explain?
1102
0:54:45
0:54:46
There's no confusion.
1103
0:54:46
0:54:50
The confusion is done by WHO purpose.
1104
0:54:50
0:54:53
They have three avenues of attack on humanity.
1105
0:54:53
0:54:58
One, the IHR agreement, okay.
1106
0:54:58
0:55:00
Two, this one, which is now the one
1107
0:55:00
0:55:03
they have been speeding up around IHR,
1108
0:55:03
0:55:05
which is even more drastic.
1109
0:55:05
0:55:10
And the third measure is they are amending the constitution,
1110
0:55:11
0:55:14
which is illegal by the way of WHO.
1111
0:55:14
0:55:15
They call it constitution.
1112
0:55:15
0:55:17
It's total nonsense.
1113
0:55:17
0:55:19
It's a privately financed criminal NGO,
1114
0:55:19
0:55:21
but okay, they have a constitution.
1115
0:55:21
0:55:25
They are now changing the 1946 signed constitution,
1116
0:55:25
0:55:27
articles 19 to 22.
1117
0:55:27
0:55:30
In other words, they're adopting a language
1118
0:55:30
0:55:35
as a backup of this plan to vote three quarters
1119
0:55:35
0:55:37
and the whole world has to then execute.
1120
0:55:38
0:55:40
This is the plan they have in mind.
1121
0:55:40
0:55:42
And this is what they want to rush through
1122
0:55:42
0:55:45
as fast as possible if needed
1123
0:55:45
0:55:50
with a crazy shock therapy that could come anytime
1124
0:55:50
0:55:55
on some crazy fake virus, 5G induced Marburg
1125
0:55:55
0:55:58
or a virus that is supposedly killing children
1126
0:55:58
0:56:00
where people will panic.
1127
0:56:00
0:56:04
And then the parliamentarians will say,
1128
0:56:04
0:56:05
oh, please rush this through.
1129
0:56:05
0:56:07
We need WHO to take control.
1130
0:56:07
0:56:12
Now, this is going to be realized if we don't act now
1131
0:56:12
0:56:17
in about two months from now.
1132
0:56:17
0:56:20
They are saying that they will give us
1133
0:56:20
0:56:25
a so-called ratification period to the governments
1134
0:56:25
0:56:28
until 2024, June.
1135
0:56:28
0:56:31
I don't trust the WHO.
1136
0:56:31
0:56:33
I am with Astrid Stuckelberger.
1137
0:56:33
0:56:34
You met Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger.
1138
0:56:34
0:56:35
She's my friend.
1139
0:56:35
0:56:36
We are very close.
1140
0:56:36
0:56:38
We talk daily.
1141
0:56:38
0:56:39
She's in Geneva.
1142
0:56:39
0:56:40
I'm in Lucerne.
1143
0:56:40
0:56:42
We are 300 kilometers apart.
1144
0:56:42
0:56:46
And we meet often and we do meetings in Switzerland
1145
0:56:46
0:56:49
with the military as well at the moment.
1146
0:56:49
0:56:52
We are in a constitutional crisis.
1147
0:56:52
0:56:55
The USA is in a constitutional crisis.
1148
0:56:55
0:56:58
Australia is in a constitutional crisis.
1149
0:56:58
0:57:01
Switzerland is now in a constitutional crisis.
1150
0:57:03
0:57:08
Biden has sold the constitution 10 days ago to Tedros,
1151
0:57:09
0:57:12
this fake doctor who is from Ethiopia
1152
0:57:12
0:57:14
who is sought for war crimes.
1153
0:57:14
0:57:16
This is reality.
1154
0:57:16
0:57:21
Now, what this means is under the pandemic law
1155
0:57:21
0:57:25
which they can claim at will at any minute, at any time,
1156
0:57:25
0:57:27
as often as they want,
1157
0:57:27
0:57:32
they declare a virus without clinical tests, okay?
1158
0:57:32
0:57:34
They then come and say, this is the vaccine,
1159
0:57:34
0:57:39
the bio weapon to be injected, force vaccinated 70.
1160
0:57:40
0:57:44
They can strip me naked in my 600 year old house here
1161
0:57:44
0:57:47
in front of my wife and they can force it in my body.
1162
0:57:48
0:57:53
If this is signed or the children or the family,
1163
0:57:53
0:57:58
then this agreement will have power over legislative offices
1164
0:58:02
0:58:04
of your nation.
1165
0:58:04
0:58:08
And it gets worse, the executive branch,
1166
0:58:08
0:58:12
that means intelligence, police, security forces
1167
0:58:12
0:58:14
and military.
1168
0:58:15
0:58:18
And then you will say, okay, we don't comply.
1169
0:58:18
0:58:19
I'm of the same nature.
1170
0:58:19
0:58:20
I will say, you know what?
1171
0:58:20
0:58:21
I don't comply.
1172
0:58:21
0:58:22
I know it's fake virus.
1173
0:58:22
0:58:23
They wanna scare us.
1174
0:58:23
0:58:25
And I go out to the streets, I go to the restaurant
1175
0:58:25
0:58:28
and then come the police with some machine guns
1176
0:58:28
0:58:30
and say, look, this is loaded.
1177
0:58:30
0:58:31
You better go home.
1178
0:58:33
0:58:35
They shoot a few, maybe five or 10 or 20.
1179
0:58:36
0:58:38
Everybody will go back to the apartments.
1180
0:58:38
0:58:39
That's it, it's the end.
1181
0:58:39
0:58:40
It's over.
1182
0:58:40
0:58:41
They want to kill us.
1183
0:58:41
0:58:42
You smelled it right.
1184
0:58:42
0:58:44
I was listening for one hour now.
1185
0:58:44
0:58:46
There is no ambiguity.
1186
0:58:46
0:58:51
They want to depopulate the planet and I call it it
1187
0:58:51
0:58:53
because the gentleman was talking,
1188
0:58:53
0:58:56
speaking before me about the poor women
1189
0:58:56
0:58:58
who got infertile and stuff.
1190
0:59:01
0:59:02
It exists.
1191
0:59:02
0:59:04
You got to realize that.
1192
0:59:04
0:59:05
And this is a spiritual battle
1193
0:59:05
0:59:10
and a constitutional legal slash court battle.
1194
0:59:12
0:59:13
On all levels.
1195
0:59:13
0:59:15
They have also a manual in place.
1196
0:59:15
0:59:16
I have seen it.
1197
0:59:16
0:59:17
I have it here.
1198
0:59:17
0:59:18
I can send it later.
1199
0:59:18
0:59:22
Where they already talk how to cut communications
1200
0:59:22
0:59:25
of the population, how to disconnect us,
1201
0:59:25
0:59:27
not only physically through lockdowns,
1202
0:59:27
0:59:31
but to kill our WhatsApp, to kill our telegram.
1203
0:59:31
0:59:36
They killed 10 days ago, my Yahoo account in Switzerland,
1204
0:59:36
0:59:39
WHO, can you imagine, did this to me.
1205
0:59:39
0:59:42
In my country, Switzerland.
1206
0:59:42
0:59:43
All right.
1207
0:59:43
0:59:44
So why did they do this?
1208
0:59:44
0:59:46
Because with Anne Van der Steele
1209
0:59:46
0:59:48
and I think she's here with us,
1210
0:59:48
0:59:50
we made the news report 12 days ago
1211
0:59:50
0:59:53
that the Americans, Dr. Martin and folks
1212
0:59:53
0:59:58
are going after Dr. Fauci through doing Canada Barrage
1213
0:59:58
1:00:02
and all those people who have funded
1214
1:00:02
1:00:04
bio weapon development, gain of function,
1215
1:00:04
1:00:06
spike protein proteins at the Wuhan laboratory
1216
1:00:06
1:00:09
during a bio weapon moratorium,
1217
1:00:09
1:00:10
get a function moratorium,
1218
1:00:11
1:00:13
which was on the US and Canada.
1219
1:00:13
1:00:14
We have all the evidence.
1220
1:00:16
1:00:20
So now what do I do?
1221
1:00:20
1:00:22
I go one step further.
1222
1:00:22
1:00:24
I am also a British citizen
1223
1:00:24
1:00:26
and that gives me special power, why?
1224
1:00:27
1:00:30
I have filed with a Supreme Court
1225
1:00:30
1:00:33
in the United States of America on Friday afternoon,
1226
1:00:34
1:00:36
a temporary restraining order.
1227
1:00:37
1:00:38
The judge has accepted it
1228
1:00:38
1:00:41
and we're filing the papers, not electronically,
1229
1:00:41
1:00:44
the papers, my legal advisor is going to court
1230
1:00:44
1:00:47
on Monday morning at nine o'clock to meet the judge.
1231
1:00:47
1:00:50
It will be stamped, rubber stamped.
1232
1:00:50
1:00:51
The fee will be paid.
1233
1:00:52
1:00:55
The lawyers, the law firm of Pfizer
1234
1:00:55
1:00:58
has been notified duly on Friday.
1235
1:00:58
1:01:03
I'm taking the devil front head on
1236
1:01:03
1:01:06
and this machine will be stopped.
1237
1:01:06
1:01:07
And not only the...
1238
1:01:07
1:01:10
Okay, Pascal, Pascal, stop.
1239
1:01:10
1:01:11
Thank you.
1240
1:01:11
1:01:13
This is Q&A.
1241
1:01:14
1:01:16
People want to see that chart,
1242
1:01:16
1:01:18
if you can put that into the chat.
1243
1:01:18
1:01:20
We have to go on with the other questions.
1244
1:01:20
1:01:23
We understand, everyone here understands the threat of who
1245
1:01:23
1:01:24
and you are doing great work.
1246
1:01:24
1:01:26
We have to get to the other questions.
1247
1:01:26
1:01:27
We have to...
1249
1:01:28
1:01:29
I gave you a bit more latitude
1250
1:01:29
1:01:31
because of the importance of what you're doing,
1251
1:01:31
1:01:33
but we have to move on.
1252
1:01:35
1:01:35
So can you put...
1253
1:01:36
1:01:40
If you want to come on to speak to us as a guest,
1254
1:01:41
1:01:43
we can talk, okay?
1255
1:01:44
1:01:45
Now Pascal's quite...
1256
1:01:45
1:01:49
Pascal spoke, the recording, excellent recording of Pascal,
1257
1:01:49
1:01:54
but in terms of further strategies, absolutely important.
1258
1:01:56
1:01:58
Okay, thank you.
1259
1:01:58
1:02:01
Gary Fink, Gary the Fink.
1260
1:02:01
1:02:03
The Fink, he's the Fink.
1261
1:02:03
1:02:05
Hi there.
1262
1:02:05
1:02:06
Yes, Gary Fink, I'm from London.
1263
1:02:06
1:02:09
I'm an actory and statistician.
1264
1:02:09
1:02:12
I just wanted to ask Dr. Thorpe, I was good,
1265
1:02:12
1:02:16
the question was aimed at Dr. Thorpe and Michelle,
1266
1:02:16
1:02:17
but unfortunately Michelle's there,
1267
1:02:17
1:02:21
but maybe Dr. Thorpe will be able to answer.
1268
1:02:21
1:02:23
When she mentioned the 20 something,
1269
1:02:25
1:02:28
it sounds like stillbirths, I think it was that she said,
1270
1:02:28
1:02:32
in a period of time, I think it was one month, I'm not sure.
1273
1:02:35
1:02:36
24, Gary.
1274
1:02:36
1:02:39
Okay, my question is,
1275
1:02:41
1:02:44
did you, Dr. Thorpe or Michelle,
1276
1:02:44
1:02:49
were actually looking to the proportions of the mothers
1277
1:02:50
1:02:52
that had been vaccinated?
1278
1:02:52
1:02:56
I mean, what is the statistic there on...
1279
1:02:58
1:03:01
I can provide that for you, can you hear me?
1280
1:03:01
1:03:02
Yeah, thank you.
1281
1:03:02
1:03:07
Let me, can I, is it okay, Charles, if I could show us?
1282
1:03:07
1:03:09
Yeah, share your screen.
1284
1:03:10
1:03:13
James, your microphone's a little bit low.
1285
1:03:13
1:03:16
I don't know whether it's, but you may have
1286
1:03:16
1:03:18
a very soft voice.
1287
1:03:18
1:03:21
All right, I'll try to speak up, is that any better?
1288
1:03:22
1:03:24
I think it might be the microphone.
1289
1:03:24
1:03:26
No, that would be no better.
1290
1:03:26
1:03:27
Yeah, I have the same problem with mine.
1291
1:03:27
1:03:29
Let's see, any better?
1293
1:03:32
1:03:35
It's a little bit, but it's okay, we can hear quite clearly.
1294
1:03:36
1:03:38
Let's see what I can do here.
1295
1:03:42
1:03:46
Okay, so, I'm gonna share my screen here.
1296
1:03:46
1:03:48
That was a great question. Thank you.
1297
1:03:51
1:03:52
Let's see here.
1298
1:04:02
1:04:04
There's no sharing yet, James.
1299
1:04:05
1:04:06
Oh, now, yeah.
1300
1:04:08
1:04:09
Not sure if that's...
1301
1:04:12
1:04:13
Let me try to redo this.
1302
1:04:22
1:04:25
All right, bear with me, bear with me.
1303
1:04:25
1:04:26
Let's see here.
1304
1:04:26
1:04:31
I'm gonna show you a picture that's worth a thousand words.
1305
1:04:32
1:04:33
And I wanna show you this,
1306
1:04:33
1:04:37
because I plotted all of Nerschel's data out.
1307
1:04:37
1:04:39
You are correct in that,
1308
1:04:44
1:04:47
this was data directly from the administration
1309
1:04:47
1:04:49
in the hospital, so it's irrefutable.
1310
1:04:49
1:04:53
And to answer your question, we're not allowed to go in
1311
1:04:53
1:04:56
and look at that other data,
1312
1:04:56
1:04:58
because we don't have privilege to it.
1313
1:04:58
1:05:03
We were censored for, she was censored and reprimanded,
1314
1:05:04
1:05:08
nearly fired for just elucidating the email.
1315
1:05:08
1:05:11
I'm having troubles getting that slide
1316
1:05:11
1:05:14
that I wanted to show you, but let me go with the data.
1317
1:05:14
1:05:17
So, Jim, if you go to your screen
1318
1:05:17
1:05:21
and you click on your own screen and then share
1319
1:05:21
1:05:24
after you've got it up on your screen first.
1320
1:05:24
1:05:26
Yeah, I'll give that a try.
1321
1:05:26
1:05:30
Yeah, I think, yeah, here we go.
1322
1:05:32
1:05:33
I'm in a mobile unit.
1323
1:05:33
1:05:35
I have a mobile workstation,
1324
1:05:35
1:05:37
because I'm over here in,
1325
1:05:37
1:05:39
I'm actually over here in Fort Worth,
1326
1:05:40
1:05:42
away from my mobile.
1327
1:05:42
1:05:45
And let's see here if I can, there we go, yeah.
1329
1:05:50
1:05:54
So the data that we have that Michelle was sharing with you,
1330
1:05:54
1:05:57
we can't go in and look at all the baseline rates,
1331
1:05:57
1:05:59
but I've calculated all those numbers.
1332
1:06:01
1:06:04
And here we are, this will do it.
1333
1:06:04
1:06:04
This is great.
1334
1:06:05
1:06:10
And I'll turn that into a, there we go.
1335
1:06:10
1:06:11
All right.
1336
1:06:11
1:06:16
And off screen share.
1337
1:06:20
1:06:23
Yeah, you should be able to see that, right?
1338
1:06:23
1:06:26
COVID-19 vaccines, it's your background again,
1339
1:06:26
1:06:28
the blue, the yellow and blue.
1340
1:06:32
1:06:34
Can you see that slide?
1342
1:06:35
1:06:36
Okay, great.
1343
1:06:36
1:06:38
So yeah, I'll go down.
1344
1:06:39
1:06:41
Yeah, we can, quite clearly.
1345
1:06:41
1:06:46
Okay, so this is Michelle Gershman's whistleblower data.
1346
1:06:47
1:06:51
And what you'll see here is,
1347
1:06:51
1:06:53
first of all, a couple of things
1348
1:06:53
1:06:56
that this came from an email.
1349
1:06:57
1:07:00
This is directly from the head administrator
1350
1:07:00
1:07:01
of women's services.
1351
1:07:01
1:07:04
There's no disputing email.
1352
1:07:04
1:07:06
And in the email, it was a page and a half,
1353
1:07:06
1:07:09
and it was a very, very horrible email.
1354
1:07:09
1:07:13
It was horrible detail, horrible insensitivity,
1355
1:07:13
1:07:15
but the numbers are accurate.
1356
1:07:15
1:07:17
There were 22 stillbirths,
1357
1:07:17
1:07:22
which occurred in July of 2021.
1358
1:07:22
1:07:27
And there was another record set in August of 2022.
1359
1:07:27
1:07:29
Those are the only months
1360
1:07:29
1:07:32
that we have absolutely irrefutable data for,
1361
1:07:32
1:07:35
and we can't go in and get the rest of the data.
1362
1:07:35
1:07:38
But by Michelle Gershman's testimony,
1363
1:07:39
1:07:44
there was massive increase that began not in 2020,
1364
1:07:44
1:07:48
but after the vaccine rollout in 2021.
1365
1:07:48
1:07:51
And what I wanna show in this slide here,
1366
1:07:51
1:07:56
and on the X-axis, you see the US stillbirth rate, okay?
1367
1:07:56
1:07:58
And you'll see that blue line,
1368
1:07:58
1:08:01
5.89, 5.89, 5.70.
1369
1:08:01
1:08:05
Those are fetal deaths defined
1370
1:08:06
1:08:10
as a fetal death after or after 20 weeks,
1371
1:08:10
1:08:13
but before birth, whenever that birth took place.
1372
1:08:13
1:08:14
In other words, birth of a dead baby.
1373
1:08:14
1:08:19
So 5.89 per thousand births
1374
1:08:19
1:08:20
in the United States of America.
1375
1:08:20
1:08:22
That number is very tight.
1376
1:08:22
1:08:23
It's very solid.
1377
1:08:23
1:08:28
You can see that 2017, 5.89, 2018, 5.89, 2019.
1378
1:08:30
1:08:34
Now, when you aggregate those three years
1379
1:08:34
1:08:39
and you compare the birth rate to 2020, what do you see?
1380
1:08:39
1:08:41
The horrible pandemic of COVID-19
1381
1:08:41
1:08:46
did not increase stillbirths, actually decreased stillbirths.
1382
1:08:46
1:08:48
The increase in stillbirths didn't occur
1383
1:08:48
1:08:51
until after rollout of the vaccine.
1384
1:08:51
1:08:53
And you'll see that if you take up here
1385
1:08:53
1:08:55
at the first red triangle,
1386
1:08:55
1:08:59
if you see my little arrow pointing that out,
1387
1:08:59
1:09:02
that death rate went from 5.8,
1388
1:09:02
1:09:07
whatever you wanna choose as a baseline up to 29.3.
1389
1:09:09
1:09:13
That is a massive unprecedented one in a million year event.
1390
1:09:13
1:09:17
Okay, that doesn't occur without a cause.
1391
1:09:17
1:09:20
And as the administrator said in the email,
1392
1:09:20
1:09:22
22 was definitely an underestimate.
1393
1:09:22
1:09:24
That only captured the stillbirths
1394
1:09:24
1:09:26
that came straight to labor and delivery.
1395
1:09:26
1:09:30
The stillbirths that went to the operating room,
1396
1:09:30
1:09:32
the emergency room, delivered at home,
1397
1:09:32
1:09:35
the emergency room delivered at another facility.
1398
1:09:35
1:09:37
They didn't even count.
1399
1:09:37
1:09:39
So she said there were more than this.
1400
1:09:39
1:09:43
But this is the data, it speaks for itself.
1401
1:09:43
1:09:48
The enormity of that rise cannot be overestimated.
1402
1:09:49
1:09:52
You're looking at one standard deviation
1403
1:09:52
1:09:57
is about 0.5 fetal depth per 1,000 births, 0.5.
1404
1:09:57
1:10:02
Do the math, that's 40 standard deviation surge.
1405
1:10:02
1:10:04
And if that weren't bad enough,
1406
1:10:04
1:10:09
look at this data from Lionsgate Hospital
1407
1:10:09
1:10:14
in Vancouver, British Columbia.
1408
1:10:14
1:10:15
This occurred last year.
1409
1:10:15
1:10:20
There were 13 dead babies in one 24 hour period.
1410
1:10:20
1:10:24
So this is a catastrophic rise.
1411
1:10:24
1:10:28
I'll unshare my screen,
1412
1:10:28
1:10:31
but those are the main points I wanted to emphasize.
1413
1:10:31
1:10:33
And I hope I answered your question.
1414
1:10:34
1:10:37
So, I mean, I think that's clear
1415
1:10:37
1:10:41
that there's an increase in stillbirths
1416
1:10:41
1:10:46
and it's way beyond statistical randomness that is caused.
1417
1:10:46
1:10:51
Obviously, if the increase is manifesting times
1418
1:10:52
1:10:54
with the vaccine rollout,
1419
1:10:54
1:10:59
then that is gotta be a suspect cause.
1420
1:10:59
1:11:02
But I mean, the question really boils down to
1421
1:11:02
1:11:06
if the data on the excess stillbirths
1422
1:11:06
1:11:07
in that particular center,
1423
1:11:09
1:11:10
if it's known whether those mothers
1424
1:11:10
1:11:14
were vaccinated or not, or what proportion.
1425
1:11:14
1:11:15
I'm sorry to interrupt.
1426
1:11:15
1:11:16
My name is Gail McCrae.
1427
1:11:16
1:11:19
I'm a fellow nurse whistleblower.
1428
1:11:19
1:11:19
And I'm-
1429
1:11:20
1:11:21
Hang on.
1430
1:11:21
1:11:23
Gail, send me a message,
1431
1:11:23
1:11:24
part of the message in chat
1432
1:11:24
1:11:27
and we'll let's decide whether you interrupt, please.
1433
1:11:27
1:11:28
Put your hand up.
1434
1:11:28
1:11:30
Love to hear from you.
1435
1:11:31
1:11:32
Just send me a note.
1436
1:11:32
1:11:34
Maybe you know how to do it, Charles.
1437
1:11:34
1:11:35
She does.
1438
1:11:35
1:11:37
Just send me a message.
1439
1:11:37
1:11:38
Keep going, Gary.
1440
1:11:39
1:11:40
So that's it.
1441
1:11:42
1:11:45
I guess I wanna just finish off my question.
1442
1:11:45
1:11:47
I'm not sure if what you said,
1443
1:11:47
1:11:50
because you didn't have full access to the data,
1444
1:11:50
1:11:53
whether it's known what proportion of the excess stillbirths
1445
1:11:53
1:11:57
in that center were from vaccinated mothers or not.
1446
1:11:59
1:12:01
Because that could help roll out
1447
1:12:01
1:12:03
some other confounding cause.
1448
1:12:04
1:12:07
I can respond to that if I may.
1449
1:12:07
1:12:08
Can you hear me?
1450
1:12:08
1:12:08
Yeah, sure, please.
1451
1:12:08
1:12:10
Yeah, yes.
1452
1:12:10
1:12:14
These are very, very highly vaccinated areas.
1453
1:12:14
1:12:17
So the vast majority of these,
1454
1:12:17
1:12:19
if not all of them were vaccinated.
1455
1:12:19
1:12:22
Again, I can't prove that,
1456
1:12:22
1:12:25
but you're looking at Michelle Gershman's testimony
1457
1:12:25
1:12:28
that basically almost all of the pregnant women
1458
1:12:28
1:12:31
were not only pushed the vaccine,
1459
1:12:31
1:12:33
but almost literally forced.
1460
1:12:33
1:12:35
She talked about several obstetricians
1461
1:12:35
1:12:37
that would browbeat the patients
1462
1:12:37
1:12:39
personally into getting the vaccine.
1463
1:12:39
1:12:43
So listen, I practice out of,
1464
1:12:43
1:12:45
of course the whole world I take calls from,
1465
1:12:45
1:12:49
but my private practice, or if you will,
1466
1:12:49
1:12:53
my employed practice is in Missouri and Illinois.
1467
1:12:53
1:12:56
And I've definitely seen an increase in stillbirth
1468
1:12:56
1:12:59
in my practice, but it's nowhere near the increase.
1469
1:13:00
1:13:01
I'm sorry.
1470
1:13:02
1:13:06
Let me, let me move that.
1471
1:13:13
1:13:16
Okay, James had to go off to answer a call.
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1:13:16
1:13:21
Now, Gail McCrae for 30 seconds,
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1:13:21
1:13:24
your friend of Michelle, please unmute
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1:13:24
1:13:25
and answer Gary's question.
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1:13:28
1:13:31
Yeah, so I know Michelle very well,
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1:13:31
1:13:35
and I also am a nurse from California
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1:13:35
1:13:40
where we had extraordinary high rates of COVID-19.
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1:13:40
1:13:44
California where we had extraordinary high rates
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1:13:44
1:13:48
of injections in our hospitals and communities.
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1:13:48
1:13:52
Michelle informed me that there are two OBGYNs
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1:13:52
1:13:53
working in her community.
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1:13:53
1:13:56
Both of them made it mandatory for their pregnant women
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1:13:56
1:14:00
to all receive the jobs during that time period.
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1:14:00
1:14:03
So if they refused, if those pay,
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1:14:03
1:14:06
if the pregnant women refused the injections,
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1:14:06
1:14:10
they were dropped from those OBGYN care.
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1:14:10
1:14:14
And there were no other OBGYNs in that community
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1:14:14
1:14:16
to overtake their care.
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1:14:16
1:14:18
So if they chose not to get the injections,
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1:14:18
1:14:21
they were led into either another community
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1:14:21
1:14:23
or into the care of midwives.
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1:14:24
1:14:25
Gail, Millie, thanks.
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1:14:25
1:14:28
Gary is- And I can confirm in my community,
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1:14:29
1:14:31
my community as well,
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1:14:32
1:14:35
we saw a threefold increase in hospitalizations
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1:14:35
1:14:37
directly related to the onset of the injections.
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1:14:37
1:14:42
In my community, we had about a 90% injection rate
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1:14:42
1:14:47
and there was in the exact same scenarios,
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1:14:47
1:14:50
a direct correlation with the onset of injection
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1:14:50
1:14:52
after hospitals being empty for the-
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1:14:56
1:14:57
You're at mute, Gail.
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1:14:59
1:15:01
Can I make a comment on this question?
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1:15:01
1:15:02
Yes, please, Curtis.
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1:15:02
1:15:04
I think was also really critical.
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1:15:05
1:15:08
I think it was just looking at the timeframes.
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1:15:08
1:15:13
All-cause mortality, we looked at statistics for 2019,
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1:15:14
1:15:17
2020 was lower.
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1:15:17
1:15:21
2020, that's where the virus supposedly escaped
1509
1:15:21
1:15:23
from some laboratory, if you believe that,
1510
1:15:23
1:15:25
and did all this hard.
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1:15:25
1:15:28
But the overall death count went down.
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1:15:28
1:15:31
And Albert, his thing, Albert is on the call, I believe,
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1:15:31
1:15:34
his thing is analyzing various data.
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1:15:34
1:15:36
A lot of his reports that there was definitely
1515
1:15:36
1:15:40
a dramatic increase in reports to VAERS
1516
1:15:40
1:15:41
of vaccine injuries and deaths
1517
1:15:41
1:15:43
after the vaccine came on the market.
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1:15:43
1:15:46
So I believe all four of the insurance companies
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1:15:46
1:15:49
are talking about all-cause mortality deaths
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1:15:49
1:15:53
actually increased like 40% in 2021
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1:15:53
1:15:54
once the vaccine came on the market.
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1:15:54
1:15:57
So we're not looking at an isolated situation
1523
1:15:57
1:16:01
when we're talking about increases in infant mortality.
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1:16:01
1:16:02
It's across the board.
1525
1:16:02
1:16:07
And so we got to ask what happened between 2020 and 2021
1526
1:16:07
1:16:10
that all these deaths from a lot of different levels
1527
1:16:10
1:16:13
and all these injuries, that's the thing was critical.
1528
1:16:13
1:16:16
See nothing of all these sudden deaths,
1529
1:16:16
1:16:19
all these athletes suddenly dying.
1530
1:16:19
1:16:22
When in our history have we seen all these athletes
1531
1:16:22
1:16:25
around the world just dropping dead on the football field,
1532
1:16:25
1:16:26
the basketball field?
1533
1:16:26
1:16:30
It didn't happen until 2021 when the COVID shot came out.
1534
1:16:30
1:16:34
So I think it's good to have a broad view
1535
1:16:34
1:16:35
of what's going on.
1536
1:16:36
1:16:37
Thank you.
1537
1:16:37
1:16:38
Excellent point, Curtis.
1538
1:16:38
1:16:43
And that's the strategy that it to quote Pascal is using
1539
1:16:43
1:16:46
to say there's no causation link.
1540
1:16:46
1:16:48
We know that's bullshit.
1541
1:16:48
1:16:49
Thank you, Gary.
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1:16:49
1:16:51
We got to keep going with questions.
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1:16:52
1:16:53
Shasta.
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1:16:55
1:16:56
All right.
1545
1:16:56
1:17:01
Well, I guess for me, I'm here to speak for my moms
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1:17:01
1:17:02
and their babies that they lost
1547
1:17:02
1:17:05
and that I witnessed over the last two years
1548
1:17:05
1:17:08
and the trauma that they've experienced
1549
1:17:08
1:17:11
where at three months the baby just dissolved
1550
1:17:11
1:17:14
because it lost blood flow.
1551
1:17:14
1:17:18
At five months cervical incompetence.
1552
1:17:18
1:17:22
So it just the cervix fell apart and the baby died
1553
1:17:22
1:17:25
and 30 year olds with no follicles.
1554
1:17:25
1:17:28
And completely barren.
1555
1:17:28
1:17:33
Young men having erectile dysfunction and no good sperm.
1556
1:17:33
1:17:37
And seeing the look on these moms' faces
1557
1:17:37
1:17:40
and holding their hands through their miscarriages,
1558
1:17:40
1:17:43
it's insane.
1559
1:17:43
1:17:47
And all of the doctors told me this was safe and effective
1560
1:17:47
1:17:50
and better than if they got COVID.
1561
1:17:50
1:17:52
And I'm thinking based on what?
1562
1:17:52
1:17:55
There is no long-term safety data.
1563
1:17:56
1:17:59
And that is a sales pitch for Big Pharma Harma.
1564
1:17:59
1:18:03
So my question is this because I'm very grateful
1565
1:18:03
1:18:07
to be a part of the solution is how do we have
1566
1:18:07
1:18:12
allopathic medicine be re-inspected
1567
1:18:12
1:18:16
starting with this COVID with the tests,
1568
1:18:16
1:18:20
the diagnosis and the treatments such that it's logical,
1569
1:18:20
1:18:24
that it's not harmful, that it's first do no harm.
1570
1:18:24
1:18:27
How do we get ourselves back to a safe medicine?
1571
1:18:27
1:18:31
Number two, how do we do it for all of the vaccines?
1572
1:18:31
1:18:34
Because this is what these little kids all over the world
1573
1:18:34
1:18:37
are dealing with this and this.
1574
1:18:37
1:18:40
This is madness and insanity.
1575
1:18:40
1:18:42
And I'm standing for these children.
1576
1:18:42
1:18:44
I love them, they're angels.
1577
1:18:44
1:18:48
So my prayer is that we can find a way forward
1578
1:18:48
1:18:53
to re-inspect our medicine and have healthy medicine
1579
1:18:53
1:18:54
that isn't poisonous.
1580
1:18:54
1:18:57
And I would love to know what the panel thinks,
1581
1:18:57
1:18:58
how we can go about doing that.
1582
1:19:00
1:19:02
I mean, I'll take a stab at that.
1583
1:19:02
1:19:04
Thank you very much for your really brilliant
1584
1:19:04
1:19:05
and eloquent comments.
1585
1:19:09
1:19:13
In my opinion, this cannot be fixed.
1586
1:19:13
1:19:17
It cannot be fixed without completely taking down
1587
1:19:17
1:19:22
the entire medical and military industrial complex
1588
1:19:23
1:19:24
we need to finish.
1589
1:19:24
1:19:27
My president's job, John Fitzgerald Kennedy
1590
1:19:27
1:19:30
and Eisenhower that stated that this complex
1591
1:19:30
1:19:33
was the greatest threat to the United States of America.
1592
1:19:33
1:19:35
Kennedy said he was gonna disassemble it.
1593
1:19:35
1:19:38
He was murdered in a coup d'etat from my government.
1594
1:19:38
1:19:42
It's only gotten stronger unless we finish JFK's job
1595
1:19:42
1:19:46
and utterly destroy the medical industrial complex,
1596
1:19:46
1:19:49
which is now the military medical industrial complex,
1597
1:19:49
1:19:52
will not win because they've grown powerful
1598
1:19:53
1:19:56
and wealthy and it needs to be taken down.
1599
1:19:56
1:20:00
And it needs to be replaced with ethical people
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1:20:00
1:20:02
that have ethics.
1601
1:20:02
1:20:04
I jokingly, it's not a joke,
1602
1:20:04
1:20:07
but you take somebody like Peter McCullough,
1603
1:20:07
1:20:11
who I say is the five-star general,
1604
1:20:11
1:20:14
Peter Patton McCullough, MD, MPH,
1605
1:20:14
1:20:19
I think the world, the global medical freedom force,
1606
1:20:20
1:20:24
that's what he is, people like him.
1607
1:20:24
1:20:27
I don't know of anybody more credentialed in the world
1608
1:20:27
1:20:28
to lead that.
1609
1:20:28
1:20:30
He's all over the world speaking truth.
1610
1:20:30
1:20:32
We need to line up behind,
1611
1:20:32
1:20:35
I will line up behind somebody like him
1612
1:20:35
1:20:39
and completely destroy the CDC, the FDA, the HHS,
1613
1:20:39
1:20:41
all of the boards because they failed
1614
1:20:41
1:20:45
and they're killing my patients and they know it.
1615
1:20:45
1:20:46
They refuse to look at the data.
1616
1:20:46
1:20:50
And that's exactly what Dr. McCullough on Friday
1617
1:20:50
1:20:55
and at Substack called out a pregnancy category X
1618
1:20:55
1:20:56
for the vaccine.
1619
1:20:56
1:20:58
It should be pregnancy category X.
1620
1:20:58
1:21:00
It should be removed from the market.
1621
1:21:00
1:21:02
So there's a black box warning on it now
1622
1:21:02
1:21:04
by Peter McCullough and by myself,
1623
1:21:04
1:21:07
and it needs to be banned throughout the world.
1624
1:21:07
1:21:11
And we need to disassemble the CDC and the FDA.
1625
1:21:11
1:21:12
They're corrupt to the core.
1626
1:21:12
1:21:14
They cannot be fixed.
1627
1:21:14
1:21:16
They're offended by vaccine profits.
1629
1:21:17
1:21:19
If I could add to that, I think another element,
1630
1:21:19
1:21:24
I completely agree with Dr. Thorpe is public awareness.
1631
1:21:24
1:21:27
I mean, one of the greatest challenges I've had
1632
1:21:27
1:21:31
over 30 years, it's just trying to wake up people
1633
1:21:31
1:21:33
who are just mesmerized.
1634
1:21:33
1:21:38
I mean, literally people view doctors as ministers
1635
1:21:38
1:21:41
and priests and rabbis, and they view hospitals
1636
1:21:41
1:21:44
as temples and churches and synagogues.
1637
1:21:44
1:21:48
Nobody wants to question their rabbi or their minister
1638
1:21:48
1:21:49
or their church.
1639
1:21:49
1:21:53
And by the same token, nobody really wants to question
1640
1:21:53
1:21:55
their hospitals or their doctors.
1641
1:21:55
1:21:57
Those are sacred in the minds of many people.
1642
1:21:57
1:21:59
We've been programmed from childhood
1643
1:21:59
1:22:02
to have absolute faith in what they say.
1644
1:22:02
1:22:06
Plus the fact medical, I mean, the school system and things,
1645
1:22:06
1:22:09
they train us in such a way that most of the people
1646
1:22:09
1:22:11
are afraid of anything scientific, anything medical,
1647
1:22:11
1:22:12
anything technical.
1648
1:22:13
1:22:17
I was a political science major and MBA in business.
1649
1:22:17
1:22:20
I was not really eager to dig through a lot
1650
1:22:20
1:22:24
of technical medical jargon, but I realized the issue
1651
1:22:24
1:22:26
that I was trying to uncover was critical.
1652
1:22:26
1:22:28
So when I was in the library with stacks
1653
1:22:28
1:22:30
of medical journals all around me,
1654
1:22:30
1:22:34
I had my medical dictionaries and psychopedias right there
1655
1:22:34
1:22:37
to help me understand what the heck they were talking about.
1656
1:22:37
1:22:40
We have to get people to overcome their fear
1657
1:22:40
1:22:43
of asking questions and looking things up
1658
1:22:43
1:22:46
and starting to question things.
1659
1:22:46
1:22:49
And now things are much easier than when I was doing
1660
1:22:49
1:22:51
this kind of research because I mean,
1661
1:22:51
1:22:53
I was brought up the old fashioned way.
1662
1:22:53
1:22:55
You go to the library and you find books
1663
1:22:55
1:22:57
and medical journals, you do that.
1664
1:22:57
1:23:01
Now they just go to Google, not really Google as much,
1665
1:23:01
1:23:03
but you go online and you can search up for anything you want.
1666
1:23:03
1:23:07
Just type in any name of any vaccine, type in side effect,
1667
1:23:07
1:23:08
adverse reactions.
1668
1:23:08
1:23:13
We have to find creative ways to get more of the public aware.
1669
1:23:14
1:23:15
I will say on the positive side,
1670
1:23:15
1:23:18
there are forces of good out there.
1671
1:23:18
1:23:21
Like of course, Dr. Thorpe and Michelle,
1672
1:23:21
1:23:25
Bobby Kennedy and many others who are very powerful people
1673
1:23:25
1:23:26
in the background, I can tell you,
1674
1:23:26
1:23:29
they are out there who don't like what's going on.
1675
1:23:29
1:23:32
We have to wake up more people like that
1676
1:23:32
1:23:34
and wake up more of the general public.
1677
1:23:34
1:23:36
Because once the public understands
1678
1:23:36
1:23:38
what I think most people here understand,
1679
1:23:38
1:23:39
they will become outraged.
1680
1:23:39
1:23:41
And then they will start putting pressure
1681
1:23:41
1:23:44
to make the type of changes that Dr. Thorpe mentioned.
1682
1:23:44
1:23:47
So I think we have to be creative with the good marketers.
1683
1:23:47
1:23:49
Like one of the things that I have done
1684
1:23:49
1:23:52
is I've created some animations, some cartoons,
1685
1:23:52
1:23:55
essentially that deal with some of these issues,
1686
1:23:55
1:23:57
but it does it very briefly,
1687
1:23:57
1:23:59
in a very funny, cute, entertaining way,
1688
1:23:59
1:24:01
but it gets the message across.
1689
1:24:01
1:24:03
Everybody who watched those animations I've created
1690
1:24:04
1:24:06
understand the issues a lot better.
1691
1:24:06
1:24:08
So I think we need to be very creative
1692
1:24:08
1:24:10
at marketing this information
1693
1:24:10
1:24:13
so the average person, grassroots level, understand this.
1694
1:24:13
1:24:16
And we need to push this out there as much as possible.
1695
1:24:16
1:24:17
Because once the public understands,
1696
1:24:17
1:24:19
I mean, I've seen it many times,
1697
1:24:19
1:24:20
when people understand some of these issues,
1698
1:24:20
1:24:22
they become outraged.
1699
1:24:22
1:24:24
They become like raving fanatics.
1700
1:24:24
1:24:25
I know I went through that stage.
1701
1:24:25
1:24:26
We have to get more of the public.
1702
1:24:26
1:24:29
And I will say over the past 30 years,
1703
1:24:29
1:24:33
we have grown more in the past three years
1704
1:24:33
1:24:35
in terms of people being aware of the dangers
1705
1:24:35
1:24:38
of vaccines and the corruption of medical establishment.
1706
1:24:38
1:24:41
We are now millions across the country and around the world,
1707
1:24:41
1:24:43
and that's phenomenal, but we need a lot more.
1708
1:24:43
1:24:45
So public awareness, I think,
1709
1:24:45
1:24:47
is one of the critical elements
1710
1:24:47
1:24:49
in bringing down this corrupt system
1711
1:24:49
1:24:52
and placing something that does what it's really supposed to,
1712
1:24:52
1:24:55
which is save lives and do the right thing.
1713
1:24:56
1:24:58
So James, I agree with you
1714
1:24:58
1:25:00
and with what you've been saying as well, Curtis,
1715
1:25:00
1:25:05
but I think that what we've seen in the last three years
1716
1:25:05
1:25:08
is a totally broken medical system
1717
1:25:09
1:25:11
and we can't reform this.
1718
1:25:11
1:25:13
We have to start again.
1719
1:25:13
1:25:15
We have to start again.
1720
1:25:15
1:25:19
And yeah, you know, I possibly was trained
1721
1:25:19
1:25:24
under the shadow of this medical industrial complex,
1722
1:25:24
1:25:29
which was kind of, but at least we knew about ethics.
1723
1:25:31
1:25:33
So once, when I look back,
1724
1:25:34
1:25:37
so I think, well, actually all those drugs,
1725
1:25:37
1:25:42
you know, I was shocked by the big pharma representatives
1726
1:25:42
1:25:46
who came around, you know, trying to encourage doctors
1727
1:25:46
1:25:48
to prescribe their medicine.
1728
1:25:48
1:25:51
Well, first of all, I thought that was improper.
1729
1:25:51
1:25:53
And then I used to ask them,
1730
1:25:53
1:25:56
I used to say, these studies look pretty shaky.
1731
1:25:56
1:26:00
You know, the numbers are too small to draw any conclusions
1732
1:26:00
1:26:02
and they just batted away, you know,
1733
1:26:02
1:26:06
and but nobody else was asking any questions.
1734
1:26:06
1:26:10
So doctors, I mean, so the drugs reps,
1735
1:26:10
1:26:13
they wanted to see the doctors
1736
1:26:13
1:26:14
and then they would take us out to dinner
1737
1:26:14
1:26:16
and goodness knows what else, you know.
1738
1:26:19
1:26:22
Yeah, initially you could, I didn't go,
1739
1:26:22
1:26:25
but doctors did go on holiday
1740
1:26:25
1:26:28
at the expense of these big pharma companies.
1741
1:26:28
1:26:31
But to be fair, I don't think, you know,
1742
1:26:32
1:26:35
I'm not sure, but I don't think that many of them
1743
1:26:35
1:26:36
understood what was going on,
1744
1:26:36
1:26:39
that they were being bribed essentially.
1745
1:26:40
1:26:44
What I think now, James, is that not only do we have
1746
1:26:44
1:26:48
to start again, but we have to look at all the drugs.
1747
1:26:48
1:26:52
We can't, clearly have been massively misled
1748
1:26:52
1:26:53
with these injections.
1749
1:26:53
1:26:57
So we have to look at all vaccinations in inverted commas.
1750
1:26:58
1:27:01
We have to also consider, you know,
1751
1:27:01
1:27:03
the people who are shouting out about no viruses
1752
1:27:03
1:27:05
and getting very frustrated.
1753
1:27:05
1:27:07
I personally think there was no pandemic
1754
1:27:07
1:27:11
and there was no disease called COVID-19.
1755
1:27:11
1:27:12
That's the no virus thing.
1756
1:27:12
1:27:15
We haven't got time for that in my opinion.
1757
1:27:16
1:27:19
We need to look at that later,
1758
1:27:19
1:27:22
but we're never gonna get the people
1759
1:27:22
1:27:27
to understand that at the moment in time.
1760
1:27:27
1:27:29
We have limited time to get,
1761
1:27:29
1:27:32
but we can get them to understand
1762
1:27:32
1:27:33
that there was no pandemic.
1763
1:27:33
1:27:35
I think that's possible.
1764
1:27:35
1:27:37
And we may be able to, you know,
1765
1:27:37
1:27:40
if doctors explain the process of diagnosis,
1766
1:27:40
1:27:45
it seems to me that the diagnosis of COVID-19
1767
1:27:45
1:27:46
was never properly done.
1768
1:27:46
1:27:49
They used a test which should never have been used,
1769
1:27:49
1:27:53
was fraudulent, to diagnose a viral illness.
1770
1:27:53
1:27:55
We've never used a test before
1771
1:27:55
1:27:56
to diagnose a viral illness.
1772
1:27:56
1:27:59
So why is it that I was one of the few doctors
1773
1:28:00
1:28:02
pointing that out in 2020?
1774
1:28:02
1:28:05
And I was kind of half disbelieving what I was saying
1775
1:28:05
1:28:08
because I couldn't understand why there's so much silence.
1776
1:28:08
1:28:11
And so the other thing was that I noticed
1777
1:28:11
1:28:13
that there was no symptom
1778
1:28:13
1:28:16
which was pathognomonic for COVID-19.
1779
1:28:16
1:28:20
All the symptoms could be due to flu, pneumonia,
1780
1:28:20
1:28:22
respiratory syncytial virus,
1781
1:28:22
1:28:24
the common cold which disappeared.
1782
1:28:24
1:28:25
It was just nonsense.
1783
1:28:25
1:28:27
And I think that the fraud was so big
1784
1:28:27
1:28:29
that there was no pandemic
1785
1:28:30
1:28:31
and there was no COVID-19.
1786
1:28:31
1:28:33
It's possible that there's no virus
1787
1:28:33
1:28:34
and there never was any virus.
1788
1:28:34
1:28:35
And the whole world.
1789
1:28:35
1:28:36
Come on, come on, come on.
1790
1:28:36
1:28:37
No, hang on.
1791
1:28:37
1:28:41
The whole world of virology was constructed
1792
1:28:41
1:28:45
so that these perverts could do what they've been doing
1793
1:28:45
1:28:46
for the last three years.
1794
1:28:46
1:28:51
And not only virology, but genomics, epidemiology.
1795
1:28:53
1:28:56
I don't reckon on epidemiology.
1796
1:28:56
1:28:58
Most epidemiologists are not doctors,
1797
1:28:58
1:29:00
although a secret fact he is.
1798
1:29:01
1:29:05
And the other thing that I'm very suspicious about, James,
1799
1:29:05
1:29:08
is evidence-based medicine in inverted commas
1800
1:29:08
1:29:10
because it's a tyranny.
1801
1:29:10
1:29:14
It's a tyranny to get doctors to do all the same thing.
1802
1:29:14
1:29:17
That's not how doctors work.
1803
1:29:17
1:29:19
We were taught that at medical school.
1804
1:29:19
1:29:20
Anyway.
1805
1:29:20
1:29:21
Enough.
1806
1:29:21
1:29:22
Come on.
1809
1:29:23
1:29:24
Okay, I'm sorry.
1810
1:29:24
1:29:26
Can I just comment on what you were saying?
1811
1:29:26
1:29:27
I'm sorry, Curtis, yes.
1812
1:29:27
1:29:28
I thought it was someone else.
1813
1:29:28
1:29:29
Yes, Chris, you should.
1814
1:29:29
1:29:31
Steven, I completely agree.
1815
1:29:31
1:29:33
In my book, Vaccines Are Dangerous,
1816
1:29:33
1:29:35
I have two chapters that I think you might find interesting.
1817
1:29:35
1:29:39
One chapter is entitled, Don't Trust Doctors.
1818
1:29:39
1:29:41
And I have a whole list of books and articles
1819
1:29:41
1:29:44
talking about how doctors, according to their own literature,
1820
1:29:44
1:29:48
it's the third leading cause of death in this country,
1821
1:29:48
1:29:49
saying nothing about what around the world.
1822
1:29:49
1:29:52
Gary Knowles' team estimates that doctors are responsible
1823
1:29:52
1:29:54
for like a million deaths annually.
1824
1:29:54
1:29:55
That's Gary Knowles' team.
1825
1:29:55
1:29:57
But I think it was a Harvard study
1826
1:29:57
1:30:00
that showed that it was like, I think 250,000 deaths,
1827
1:30:00
1:30:03
one third of all the deaths in this country.
1828
1:30:03
1:30:05
There are a lot of problems with a lot of doctors.
1829
1:30:05
1:30:06
I don't want to go into too many details,
1830
1:30:06
1:30:08
but we need to look at the big picture.
1831
1:30:08
1:30:13
This is something that was created for profit
1832
1:30:13
1:30:15
by very notorious people.
1833
1:30:15
1:30:18
And I encourage you to read Rockefeller Medicine
1834
1:30:18
1:30:22
and Medical Mafia, many other books that I document
1835
1:30:22
1:30:24
in that chapter, Don't Trust Doctors.
1836
1:30:24
1:30:26
So yes, we need to look at the big picture.
1837
1:30:26
1:30:29
I will say there are good doctors like Dr. Thorpe
1838
1:30:29
1:30:31
and others out there, and others who are quiet,
1839
1:30:31
1:30:33
that do the right thing and do save lives.
1840
1:30:33
1:30:35
So I do want to acknowledge those.
1841
1:30:35
1:30:37
But unfortunately, there's too many of those
1842
1:30:37
1:30:39
who just go along with what's happening
1843
1:30:39
1:30:42
and people suffer and die as a consequence.
1844
1:30:42
1:30:45
Another chapter in my book, Vaccines are Dangerous,
1845
1:30:45
1:30:48
is a chapter called Exaggerating Diseases,
1846
1:30:48
1:30:51
in which I look at a whole list of common diseases
1847
1:30:51
1:30:53
which vaccines have been created.
1848
1:30:53
1:30:55
And I show it each and every case,
1849
1:30:55
1:30:57
the diseases were minor.
1850
1:30:57
1:30:58
It wasn't an automatic death sentence.
1851
1:30:58
1:31:01
Measles, for example, is not a death sentence.
1852
1:31:01
1:31:03
The average kid will get a fever and a rash
1853
1:31:03
1:31:06
for a couple of days, a week or so, and they recover.
1854
1:31:06
1:31:08
Now that's true in America, but you know,
1855
1:31:08
1:31:10
third world countries where health problems, yeah,
1856
1:31:10
1:31:12
well, they can get sick from anything.
1857
1:31:12
1:31:14
But in America, those diseases are minor.
1858
1:31:14
1:31:17
Polio, you look at the action statistics,
1859
1:31:17
1:31:21
the uptick of polio was in the 50s, around 50,000 cases.
1860
1:31:21
1:31:24
Well, if you look at the FDA's own standards,
1861
1:31:24
1:31:28
CDC's own standards for what constitutes a rare disease,
1862
1:31:28
1:31:29
here's the number everybody should remember
1863
1:31:29
1:31:32
if you don't know it already, 200,000.
1864
1:31:32
1:31:35
Okay, so remember that, write it down, 200,000.
1865
1:31:35
1:31:37
According to our own government's agencies,
1866
1:31:37
1:31:41
any disease that affects fewer than 200,000 people
1867
1:31:41
1:31:43
is considered a rare disease.
1868
1:31:43
1:31:46
So if you look at polio at its height, 50,000.
1869
1:31:46
1:31:49
Well, if 50,000 cases is here,
1870
1:31:49
1:31:52
and the standard is 200,000, where's the emergency?
1871
1:31:52
1:31:53
There was no emergency.
1872
1:31:53
1:31:54
There threw people into a panic.
1873
1:31:54
1:31:58
Right, there was never an emergency, and there still isn't.
1874
1:31:58
1:32:02
So why on earth is USA currently, at the moment,
1875
1:32:02
1:32:05
I cannot enter the USA because I'm not vaccinated.
1876
1:32:05
1:32:07
That's medical apartheid.
1877
1:32:07
1:32:10
So if there's no emergency, why is the United States
1878
1:32:10
1:32:15
of all countries in the world operating medical apartheid?
1879
1:32:15
1:32:17
It just doesn't make sense, does it?
1880
1:32:17
1:32:18
Well, it does make sense if you realize,
1881
1:32:18
1:32:20
I mean, the- Of course, yes.
1882
1:32:20
1:32:22
that created this system.
1883
1:32:22
1:32:26
It's a for-profit system where profits come before people.
1884
1:32:26
1:32:27
And they already make plenty of money,
1885
1:32:27
1:32:29
but they're not satisfied with that,
1886
1:32:29
1:32:31
so they want more, plus their other political agendas,
1887
1:32:31
1:32:32
you know, population control.
1888
1:32:32
1:32:37
So Curtis, and James, so I think that it's not surprising
1889
1:32:37
1:32:40
at all that doctors have been targeted,
1890
1:32:40
1:32:41
because if you think about it, you know,
1891
1:32:41
1:32:44
doctors don't realize it because they're very young
1892
1:32:44
1:32:45
when they qualify usually,
1893
1:32:46
1:32:49
and so, but they have enormous power
1894
1:32:49
1:32:53
over people's lives and hopes, you know, ill.
1895
1:32:53
1:32:56
So if people are ill, the first thing they look for,
1896
1:32:56
1:32:58
and we would probably do, well, actually,
1897
1:32:58
1:33:00
I don't know whether I would at the moment,
1898
1:33:00
1:33:02
I'd turn to a doctor, I was gonna say.
1899
1:33:02
1:33:03
No, I wouldn't actually.
1900
1:33:03
1:33:06
I wouldn't go to the nearest hospital, certainly.
1901
1:33:06
1:33:09
But anyway, point is that you turn to,
1902
1:33:09
1:33:14
so, and everyone wants, needs a good doctor at some stage.
1903
1:33:14
1:33:16
So it's in our interest to sort this out,
1904
1:33:16
1:33:19
not just for humanity's sake,
1905
1:33:19
1:33:21
but also for every individual human being
1906
1:33:21
1:33:23
who wants to complete their lives
1907
1:33:23
1:33:26
as much as they possibly can.
1908
1:33:26
1:33:30
So, and so I think that it's not surprising
1909
1:33:30
1:33:33
that doctors have been targeted by Big Pharma.
1910
1:33:33
1:33:37
We should have been taught about that at medical school,
1911
1:33:37
1:33:40
the danger of being coerced by Big Pharma,
1912
1:33:40
1:33:44
and this kind of event, this has to be told.
1913
1:33:44
1:33:46
Come on, come on, come on.
1914
1:33:46
1:33:47
We got questions.
1915
1:33:47
1:33:49
I was thinking of a response to that,
1916
1:33:49
1:33:51
I would say that from what I've read,
1917
1:33:51
1:33:52
I'm not a doctor, but you guys are doctors,
1918
1:33:52
1:33:55
so you can confirm this or not.
1919
1:33:55
1:33:56
When they're recruiting
1920
1:33:56
1:33:58
who's gonna get into medical school,
1921
1:33:58
1:34:01
they're not looking for independent thinkers
1922
1:34:01
1:34:03
of the creative type, the ones who are gonna rock the boat.
1923
1:34:03
1:34:05
They want conformists.
1924
1:34:05
1:34:06
People are gonna do what they're told.
1925
1:34:06
1:34:08
That's what I've read, that's what I've heard from doctors.
1926
1:34:08
1:34:10
And so you have a group of people
1927
1:34:10
1:34:12
that are good at what they do,
1928
1:34:12
1:34:15
but their personality type, they were chosen
1929
1:34:15
1:34:17
because they're not the kind of people
1930
1:34:17
1:34:18
who are gonna rock the boat.
1931
1:34:18
1:34:20
In fact, one of the reasons I chose not to become a doctor
1932
1:34:20
1:34:22
is because I've been underpaid.
1933
1:34:22
1:34:26
They're very good at school, very good at passing exams.
1934
1:34:26
1:34:29
They're very good at complying at school,
1935
1:34:29
1:34:31
being a good student,
1936
1:34:31
1:34:33
and they're very good at doing the right thing
1937
1:34:33
1:34:37
in a so-called pandemic, which was never a pandemic.
1938
1:34:37
1:34:39
Well, that's one of the reasons I chose not to be a doctor
1939
1:34:39
1:34:40
because I knew that I was gonna rock the boat
1940
1:34:40
1:34:42
and had to lose my license.
1941
1:34:42
1:34:43
I just knew that about myself.
1942
1:34:43
1:34:47
So I do wanna say that in the chapter on exaggerating disease,
1943
1:34:47
1:34:49
I go through a whole list of different diseases
1944
1:34:49
1:34:51
and I show the statistics
1945
1:34:51
1:34:52
and the medical science own literature,
1946
1:34:52
1:34:54
these things are all minor,
1947
1:34:54
1:34:57
including up to the COVID situation.
1948
1:34:57
1:34:59
I mean, most of the people were dying in 2020,
1949
1:34:59
1:35:02
even though the overall death rate stayed about the same,
1950
1:35:02
1:35:05
or declined depending what statistics you look at.
1951
1:35:05
1:35:08
Most of the deaths were among elderly people,
1952
1:35:08
1:35:11
people in their 80s or so who already had cancer
1953
1:35:11
1:35:13
or diabetes or whatever.
1954
1:35:13
1:35:15
And when they died, they just called it COVID.
1955
1:35:15
1:35:18
What the people who were 20 and 30 years old
1956
1:35:18
1:35:21
and average health, they were not dying of COVID.
1957
1:35:21
1:35:23
The whole thing was blown out of proportion,
1958
1:35:23
1:35:25
exactly gross lies.
1959
1:35:25
1:35:28
In fact, there was one report that said that
1960
1:35:28
1:35:31
there were cases of people who died of gunshot wounds
1961
1:35:31
1:35:33
still listed as COVID deaths
1962
1:35:33
1:35:34
because through the CARES Act,
1963
1:35:34
1:35:37
these hospitals get money from declaring somebody
1964
1:35:37
1:35:40
having COVID, testing positive or die from COVID.
1965
1:35:40
1:35:42
They literally get money for that.
1966
1:35:42
1:35:43
Just look up the CARES Act.
1967
1:35:43
1:35:44
Yes, we know about that, Curtis.
1968
1:35:44
1:35:46
Right, so I'm just saying.
1969
1:35:46
1:35:48
So it was a total failure of diagnosis,
1970
1:35:48
1:35:49
but why did it happen?
1971
1:35:49
1:35:52
It was necessary to drive the pandemic,
1972
1:35:52
1:35:56
which wasn't a pandemic, through fear and shame.
1973
1:35:56
1:35:58
And this is the tactic,
1974
1:35:58
1:36:00
you know, the last time I was on your program,
1975
1:36:00
1:36:04
I talked about my presentation I gave in Tennessee,
1976
1:36:04
1:36:06
and that was the whole focus.
1977
1:36:06
1:36:08
They've taken the same script going back 100 years
1978
1:36:08
1:36:13
to Spanish flu and used the same script again and again,
1979
1:36:13
1:36:15
throwing people into a panic for a disease
1980
1:36:15
1:36:17
that does not exist,
1981
1:36:17
1:36:20
causing people to run out to get tests with face masks
1982
1:36:20
1:36:21
and especially get the vaccines.
1983
1:36:21
1:36:22
And when they get the vaccines,
1984
1:36:22
1:36:25
that's when they start getting sick and start dying.
1985
1:36:25
1:36:28
It was true 100 years ago, it was true with H1N1,
1986
1:36:28
1:36:31
it was true with swine flu, and it's true now with COVID.
1987
1:36:31
1:36:34
The ones who are dying are the ones who take the shot.
1988
1:36:34
1:36:36
So we've got to get the public,
1989
1:36:36
1:36:39
do more to wake up the public to understand the lies
1990
1:36:39
1:36:42
that they've been told and start thinking for themselves.
1991
1:36:42
1:36:43
All right, come on.
1992
1:36:43
1:36:44
On we go.
1993
1:36:44
1:36:46
We seem to have lost hope, Charles.
1994
1:36:46
1:36:48
Well, come on, stop talking, Stephen.
1995
1:36:48
1:36:49
Shasta, thank you.
1996
1:36:49
1:36:50
Have we done your question?
1997
1:36:51
1:36:54
Yes, I think this is a really good inquiry
1998
1:36:54
1:36:58
is because we're not all gonna agree on anything,
1999
1:36:58
1:37:01
but if we could all agree that we want safe medicine,
2000
1:37:02
1:37:03
I think we can get somewhere.
2002
1:37:04
1:37:05
Absolutely.
2003
1:37:05
1:37:06
Thank you, Shasta.
2005
1:37:14
1:37:15
You're muted, Will.
2006
1:37:19
1:37:22
No, he's not muted.
2007
1:37:22
1:37:24
His microphone's not working as happened before.
2008
1:37:24
1:37:25
Well, he thinks that.
2009
1:37:25
1:37:27
Mariah, you go next.
2010
1:37:29
1:37:31
Thank you very much.
2011
1:37:31
1:37:34
My question is for Curtis.
2012
1:37:34
1:37:38
Curtis, you've been involved with the issue
2013
1:37:38
1:37:42
of dangers of vaccines for a long time.
2014
1:37:42
1:37:45
And I wonder if you have anything you could tell us
2015
1:37:45
1:37:50
about the overuse of injection given to our...
2016
1:37:55
1:37:57
Wait, there's an echo.
2017
1:37:59
1:38:00
William, why don't you...
2018
1:38:01
1:38:03
Your microphone and your camera out.
2019
1:38:04
1:38:06
Yeah, anyway.
2020
1:38:06
1:38:08
Okay, Mariah, did you finish your question?
2021
1:38:08
1:38:09
No, I'm sorry.
2022
1:38:09
1:38:09
Can you hear me now?
2023
1:38:09
1:38:10
Yeah, I can hear you.
2024
1:38:10
1:38:11
Oh, I'm sorry, okay.
2025
1:38:11
1:38:14
So I wonder if you can say anything
2026
1:38:14
1:38:16
about the overuse of the injections
2027
1:38:16
1:38:20
where we're encouraged and often required
2028
1:38:20
1:38:24
to give our dogs and cats, our pets,
2029
1:38:24
1:38:29
and we often don't get informed consent about those either.
2030
1:38:30
1:38:31
Thank you.
2031
1:38:31
1:38:34
Sure, I mean, I've been thinking about writing a book on that.
2032
1:38:34
1:38:38
Now, if you realize that they have no qualms
2033
1:38:38
1:38:42
about poisoning human babies, pregnant mothers.
2034
1:38:42
1:38:45
Now, you can just imagine the horrendous stuff
2035
1:38:45
1:38:47
they're putting in the vaccines for the dogs and the cats.
2036
1:38:50
1:38:52
It's just frightening to think about it
2037
1:38:52
1:38:54
because people love their animals.
2038
1:38:54
1:38:59
In fact, when I got my dog and cat from a shelter,
2039
1:38:59
1:39:01
I was supposed to have it vaccinated,
2040
1:39:01
1:39:03
but I never did, there's no way.
2041
1:39:03
1:39:05
I knew I don't trust vaccines for humans.
2042
1:39:05
1:39:08
How the heck am I gonna trust vaccines for animals?
2043
1:39:09
1:39:10
I never did.
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1:39:10
1:39:14
And my dog, I estimated he had to be at least 18 human years,
2045
1:39:14
1:39:16
lived a very long, happy life.
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1:39:16
1:39:17
Same thing with my cat.
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1:39:17
1:39:18
Neither one of them vaccinated.
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1:39:18
1:39:20
They were very healthy and strong,
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1:39:20
1:39:22
lived way beyond what dogs and cats normally use.
2050
1:39:22
1:39:24
And I meant human years.
2051
1:39:24
1:39:28
And so I haven't delved into the specifics,
2052
1:39:28
1:39:30
but I can already imagine.
2053
1:39:30
1:39:32
And that's the book that I think I should write,
2054
1:39:32
1:39:32
would like to write,
2055
1:39:32
1:39:36
because most pet owners, they just do what they're told
2056
1:39:36
1:39:37
and vaccinate their kids.
2057
1:39:37
1:39:41
But I do have reports of dogs getting sick
2058
1:39:41
1:39:43
and having all kinds of other problems,
2059
1:39:43
1:39:45
but I'll talk about that more detailed
2060
1:39:45
1:39:47
when I actually get around to writing that book.
2061
1:39:47
1:39:48
But it's something that needs to be done
2062
1:39:48
1:39:51
because most pet owners, they know nothing about this issue.
2063
1:39:52
1:39:54
Thank you very much.
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1:39:54
1:39:57
Thank you, Mariah.
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1:39:57
1:39:57
Thank you, Curtis.
2066
1:39:57
1:40:00
Will, is your microphone fixed?
2067
1:40:01
1:40:02
Check, check, check.
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1:40:02
1:40:03
Can you hear me now?
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1:40:03
1:40:04
Yes, we can.
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1:40:05
1:40:06
Great, thank you.
2071
1:40:06
1:40:07
Sorry about that.
2072
1:40:09
1:40:11
Okay, so this is for Curtis.
2073
1:40:11
1:40:11
Hi, Curtis.
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1:40:13
1:40:15
Doing good.
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1:40:15
1:40:18
This is, I want to remind you of a conversation
2076
1:40:18
1:40:20
that we had on your sub stack.
2077
1:40:20
1:40:23
And the title of the post was,
2078
1:40:23
1:40:27
and it was a video that was part of the post.
2079
1:40:27
1:40:28
It was an animation.
2080
1:40:28
1:40:32
It was called Crash Course on the COVID PCR.
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1:40:32
1:40:35
And it was published on January 6th.
2082
1:40:36
1:40:38
And my first question is,
2083
1:40:38
1:40:42
was that video written and or funded
2084
1:40:42
1:40:44
by Children's Health Defense?
2085
1:40:44
1:40:45
No, no, it wasn't.
2086
1:40:45
1:40:49
It was funded by Music is Medical mandates
2087
1:40:49
1:40:52
and I wrote and directed the script.
2088
1:40:52
1:40:56
Okay, I just thought that millions against medical mandates
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1:40:56
1:40:58
might've been a program.
2090
1:40:58
1:41:00
Sometimes they have physical sponsors.
2091
1:41:00
1:41:01
I just thought the physical sponsor
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1:41:01
1:41:04
might've been Children's Health Defense.
2093
1:41:04
1:41:05
Yeah, we had a sponsor,
2094
1:41:05
1:41:09
but they paid for the first three that I did,
2095
1:41:09
1:41:11
but couldn't get other sponsorship for others.
2096
1:41:11
1:41:14
So that project got halted.
2097
1:41:14
1:41:16
But we'd like to have it started up again,
2098
1:41:16
1:41:18
because that was a great mechanism
2099
1:41:18
1:41:20
for communicating information to people
2100
1:41:20
1:41:24
in a non-threatening way that's entertaining and very brief.
2102
1:41:24
1:41:26
But what was the question?
2103
1:41:26
1:41:26
Oh yeah, thank you.
2104
1:41:26
1:41:31
Will, reduce your microphone in for it's far too loud.
2105
1:41:32
1:41:33
Okay, sorry about that.
2106
1:41:33
1:41:34
How about now?
2107
1:41:34
1:41:35
That's better. Better?
2109
1:41:36
1:41:38
I'm sorry about that.
2110
1:41:38
1:41:43
Yeah, Curtis, so my question is that about this video
2111
1:41:43
1:41:47
and the accompanying text of the article contains,
2112
1:41:47
1:41:50
I would say confusing information, contradictory,
2113
1:41:50
1:41:52
and some of it is, I would say, false information.
2114
1:41:52
1:41:55
Hang on, hang on, hang on, Will.
2115
1:41:55
1:41:59
This is not a, what the F are you doing?
2116
1:41:59
1:42:02
I'm gonna ask, Charles, this is a very-
2117
1:42:02
1:42:04
Ask the question.
2118
1:42:04
1:42:07
I have to do a set of, this is gonna take me two minutes.
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1:42:07
1:42:10
If you allow me to express myself,
2120
1:42:10
1:42:11
I'm gonna be able to get to the question.
2121
1:42:11
1:42:12
Be relevant, listen.
2122
1:42:12
1:42:13
The deal-
2123
1:42:13
1:42:14
Is relevant?
2124
1:42:14
1:42:16
Good, keep going.
2125
1:42:16
1:42:17
Okay, thank you.
2126
1:42:17
1:42:21
So Curtis, we all wanna get to the bottom of this thing.
2127
1:42:21
1:42:24
Everybody wants to get to the bottom of this thing, okay?
2128
1:42:24
1:42:29
So my question is that this video,
2129
1:42:29
1:42:31
I mean, in the comment section,
2130
1:42:31
1:42:33
you and I were discussing in the comments
2131
1:42:33
1:42:35
and in the comment section, you admitted,
2132
1:42:35
1:42:36
here's what you said.
2133
1:42:36
1:42:41
Yes, I know that no COVID virus has ever been purified
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1:42:41
1:42:42
and proven to exist.
2135
1:42:42
1:42:45
Therefore, there's nothing for the PCR test to be based on.
2136
1:42:45
1:42:48
You also said this test has also been proven
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1:42:48
1:42:49
to be worthless.
2138
1:42:49
1:42:54
Yet in the video, the video makes the statement
2139
1:42:54
1:42:59
that the COVID PCR can produce 90% false positives.
2140
1:42:59
1:43:02
This is implying that the COVID PCR is meaningful
2141
1:43:02
1:43:05
in perhaps 10% of the cases,
2142
1:43:05
1:43:09
which is by your own admission, and that's not true.
2143
1:43:09
1:43:12
And then the other statement is that the video says
2144
1:43:12
1:43:15
that casual transmission from healthy people
2145
1:43:16
1:43:16
is virtually zero.
2146
1:43:16
1:43:19
And I would say transmission of what?
2147
1:43:19
1:43:23
The text confirms that,
2148
1:43:23
1:43:27
says people infected with COVID-19 who are asymptomatic,
2149
1:43:27
1:43:30
which is most people, do not spread COVID-19
2150
1:43:30
1:43:32
and you cite children's health defense.
2151
1:43:32
1:43:36
So my question is, why would you create a video
2152
1:43:36
1:43:41
that by your own admission contains false information?
2153
1:43:41
1:43:43
Well, good question.
2154
1:43:44
1:43:48
The thing is, when you start talking about viruses,
2155
1:43:48
1:43:51
it's a very tricky thing because it's not something
2156
1:43:51
1:43:55
you can explain to the general public in 30 seconds.
2157
1:43:56
1:43:58
That video is like five minutes.
2158
1:43:58
1:44:00
If I would have gone to the details of all of that
2159
1:44:00
1:44:02
that you're talking to,
2160
1:44:02
1:44:03
it'll be a lot more than five minutes.
2161
1:44:03
1:44:05
It will lose a lot of people.
2162
1:44:05
1:44:10
Yes, the claim about being the 90% false positive,
2163
1:44:11
1:44:14
I know it's bogus because the test is 100% false positive.
2164
1:44:14
1:44:19
But if I were to say that in a five-minute presentation,
2165
1:44:19
1:44:21
there open a whole lot of other questions
2166
1:44:21
1:44:23
that you wouldn't have time to go into.
2167
1:44:23
1:44:25
But that's the mainstream information
2168
1:44:25
1:44:28
about the accuracy of PCR.
2169
1:44:28
1:44:30
So I took what was generally out there
2170
1:44:30
1:44:32
and put that out there, which is damn near of itself,
2171
1:44:32
1:44:34
but there's no time to go into all of that
2172
1:44:34
1:44:36
in a five-minute video.
2173
1:44:36
1:44:40
And yes, about the transmission, again,
2174
1:44:41
1:44:43
if I were to go into the details behind that,
2175
1:44:43
1:44:45
that'd be a much longer presentation.
2176
1:44:45
1:44:50
I mean, you look at the works of Dr. Dave Rasnik,
2177
1:44:51
1:44:56
Tom Cowan, many others out there,
2178
1:44:56
1:45:00
they give great detailed presentations on the whole issue
2179
1:45:00
1:45:02
of whether this COVID virus exists
2180
1:45:02
1:45:04
or where the virus is exist.
2181
1:45:04
1:45:07
Those are very long, detailed, complicated discussions.
2182
1:45:07
1:45:10
Can we simplify, but you can't do all that
2183
1:45:10
1:45:11
plus other things in a five-minute video.
2184
1:45:11
1:45:14
So I appreciate what your concern is,
2185
1:45:14
1:45:17
hope I clarified and that's a great question.
2186
1:45:17
1:45:18
Thank you, Curtis.
2187
1:45:18
1:45:21
I just, you know, it's just a super important point
2188
1:45:21
1:45:22
to get right.
2189
1:45:22
1:45:25
And it's hard for me to understand
2190
1:45:25
1:45:27
how somebody who knows the truth
2191
1:45:27
1:45:30
would promote this fiction that viruses exist,
2192
1:45:30
1:45:32
that COVID was a real phenomenon.
2193
1:45:32
1:45:34
Well, now- That's all I have.
2194
1:45:34
1:45:35
Thank you.
2195
1:45:35
1:45:37
Very, and that is an interesting point
2196
1:45:37
1:45:41
in terms of getting a message across in five minutes.
2197
1:45:41
1:45:42
Thank you, Will.
2198
1:45:42
1:45:44
Thanks, Curtis, for the answer.
2199
1:45:44
1:45:47
Kirk, more MD, more what?
2200
1:45:47
1:45:51
More, now here we are, being playful.
2202
1:45:53
1:45:55
I think Dr. Thorpe had his hand up.
2203
1:45:55
1:45:58
He wanted to answer that real quickly before I started.
2204
1:45:58
1:46:00
Oh yes, sorry, go ahead, James.
2206
1:46:01
1:46:03
Oh yeah, I just wanted to,
2207
1:46:03
1:46:05
with regard to the prior discussion,
2208
1:46:05
1:46:10
I respect all points of view,
2209
1:46:10
1:46:15
but this is exactly why I stay in my lane, okay?
2210
1:46:16
1:46:20
I don't really wanna get involved with
2211
1:46:22
1:46:25
issues that separate us.
2212
1:46:25
1:46:27
I respect all opinions
2213
1:46:27
1:46:30
and I've read on both sides extensively,
2214
1:46:30
1:46:32
but I choose not to comment on them.
2215
1:46:32
1:46:36
And here's why, it's devices.
2216
1:46:36
1:46:39
And number one, I'm in my lane
2217
1:46:39
1:46:42
and I am endowed,
2218
1:46:42
1:46:45
I speak only what my commander in chief,
2219
1:46:45
1:46:47
my creator tells me to talk about.
2220
1:46:48
1:46:50
I talk about only what I know
2221
1:46:50
1:46:53
to be absolutely for certain to be true.
2222
1:46:54
1:46:58
The COVID-19 vaccines are killing my patients,
2223
1:46:58
1:47:00
women of reproductive age, pregnant women,
2224
1:47:00
1:47:02
pre-borns and newborns.
2225
1:47:02
1:47:06
I don't really give a rat's anus
2226
1:47:06
1:47:09
about what the exact mechanism is
2227
1:47:09
1:47:11
or whether all of the other,
2228
1:47:11
1:47:16
the bottom line is the shot is killing my patients.
2229
1:47:16
1:47:20
That's all we need to know, stop the shots.
2230
1:47:21
1:47:23
There's a black box warning,
2231
1:47:23
1:47:26
no pregnant woman in this world
2232
1:47:26
1:47:28
should ever be subjected
2233
1:47:28
1:47:33
to an investigational gene shot, period, over.
2234
1:47:33
1:47:36
Excellent, stop the shots everybody.
2235
1:47:36
1:47:39
Thank you Jim, well expressed, Kirk.
2236
1:47:41
1:47:43
I'm pleasure to be here.
2237
1:47:43
1:47:45
Jim, nice to finally meet you face to face.
2238
1:47:47
1:47:51
And I just have a couple of comments and then I'll get off.
2239
1:47:52
1:47:55
I am total agreement with the whole medical, military,
2240
1:47:55
1:47:58
industrial complex that we are warned about
2241
1:47:58
1:47:59
when Eisenhower left office.
2242
1:48:01
1:48:03
My question to you, Jim, is,
2243
1:48:03
1:48:05
have you had any direct conversations?
2244
1:48:05
1:48:07
And I'll finish up and then listen.
2245
1:48:07
1:48:09
Have you had any direct conversations
2246
1:48:09
1:48:13
with the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology
2247
1:48:13
1:48:14
about what's going on?
2248
1:48:14
1:48:18
Have they ever responded to any of these inquiries
2249
1:48:18
1:48:21
regarding the increase in fetal demise?
2250
1:48:21
1:48:23
Have they had any official statements
2251
1:48:23
1:48:24
or anything going from there?
2252
1:48:25
1:48:28
Second thing is along the lines with Pascal,
2253
1:48:28
1:48:30
and I think he's already gotten off,
2254
1:48:30
1:48:32
it's certainly late in Switzerland right now,
2255
1:48:32
1:48:35
but I think that's something that we should have a big,
2256
1:48:35
1:48:37
longer further discussion about,
2257
1:48:37
1:48:41
because how do we combat this whole WHO, UN,
2258
1:48:41
1:48:43
quote unquote, treaty?
2259
1:48:43
1:48:45
And I think we need to have a much bigger discussion
2260
1:48:45
1:48:48
along those lines, because this is way beyond
2261
1:48:48
1:48:51
even just the medical industrial complex.
2262
1:48:51
1:48:54
Individually, what can we do specifically
2263
1:48:55
1:48:58
as individuals, both as physicians,
2264
1:48:58
1:49:02
as practitioners, as politicians,
2265
1:49:02
1:49:04
as influencers or whatever,
2266
1:49:04
1:49:07
we kind of need to figure out a plan.
2267
1:49:07
1:49:09
Some people talk about contacting our county governments,
2268
1:49:09
1:49:10
our sheriff's departments.
2269
1:49:11
1:49:13
I was on a Twitter space yesterday
2270
1:49:13
1:49:16
where a guy mentioned that we have the opportunity,
2271
1:49:16
1:49:20
or we actually have the legal right to form grand juries,
2272
1:49:20
1:49:22
to go after people.
2273
1:49:22
1:49:24
And then that way, when they show up in your county,
2274
1:49:25
1:49:27
the means kind of very similar to what Pascal has done
2275
1:49:27
1:49:32
when he started with his grand jury
2276
1:49:32
1:49:35
and his complaint that he filed in his canton.
2277
1:49:36
1:49:38
It was brought up earlier, I don't remember who it was,
2278
1:49:38
1:49:40
vaccines are going into all mammals.
2279
1:49:40
1:49:43
And so in one way or another, we are gonna get it.
2280
1:49:43
1:49:46
They are forcing it into us by injecting our pigs
2281
1:49:46
1:49:49
and injecting our cows.
2282
1:49:49
1:49:52
They might even be spraying it in some capacity
2283
1:49:52
1:49:57
on all of our fruit and vegetables that we get to.
2284
1:49:57
1:50:00
The whole system is corrupted,
2285
1:50:00
1:50:04
not just the medical system, not just the HHS,
2286
1:50:04
1:50:06
the whole system is.
2287
1:50:06
1:50:08
In this whole COVID thing,
2288
1:50:08
1:50:12
we have not been able to get any case past a judge.
2289
1:50:12
1:50:14
Everything has been thrown out
2290
1:50:14
1:50:17
before it even gets to discovery.
2291
1:50:17
1:50:19
Even the case that Brooke Jackson has right now,
2292
1:50:19
1:50:22
which should be an easy slam dunk case
2293
1:50:22
1:50:27
has still might not survive the motion to dismiss.
2294
1:50:27
1:50:30
And if you watch what Jackie Breger
2295
1:50:31
1:50:34
and what John Thaler presented to the conference
2296
1:50:34
1:50:37
in Arizona just last week,
2297
1:50:37
1:50:40
it was an amazing, amazing discussion
2298
1:50:40
1:50:43
that needs further discussion.
2299
1:50:43
1:50:45
And then I think Curtis, you brought up,
2300
1:50:45
1:50:47
or somebody brought up something about
2301
1:50:47
1:50:49
being able to educate ourselves.
2302
1:50:49
1:50:50
The struggle with educating is,
2303
1:50:50
1:50:53
and it was as mentioned earlier in the text,
2304
1:50:53
1:50:54
in the thread here,
2305
1:50:54
1:50:58
is that we didn't know that each one of us was out there.
2306
1:50:58
1:51:00
Yes, some people managed to get on TV,
2307
1:51:00
1:51:01
some people managed to be,
2308
1:51:03
1:51:05
kind of get out there and get on TV and everything else
2309
1:51:05
1:51:06
and get on the radio.
2310
1:51:06
1:51:10
And we were able to kind of listen to what they had to say,
2311
1:51:10
1:51:11
but everything is censored.
2312
1:51:11
1:51:14
Google is now censoring and shutting down websites
2313
1:51:14
1:51:18
of anybody and everybody who claims that this is a lab leak
2314
1:51:19
1:51:22
that the virus came out of a lab.
2315
1:51:22
1:51:24
They're shutting people down.
2316
1:51:24
1:51:28
So it's, even the people that may wanna educate themselves
2317
1:51:28
1:51:29
have to find another way.
2318
1:51:29
1:51:32
And so for the average person who just goes to Google,
2319
1:51:32
1:51:35
which is 72% of the population,
2320
1:51:35
1:51:37
and they're trying to look up lab leak theory,
2321
1:51:37
1:51:40
they're not gonna see anything from the other side.
2322
1:51:40
1:51:42
So, and then Curtis, one last thing,
2323
1:51:42
1:51:45
you mentioned cartoons and you mentioned humor.
2324
1:51:46
1:51:48
I think it's, I don't know the guy's name,
2325
1:51:48
1:51:50
but I think it's Bob something or other out of England.
2326
1:51:50
1:51:52
And he has a great series of cartoons
2327
1:51:52
1:51:54
that he's done on this and he's made a career doing it.
2328
1:51:54
1:51:59
So I think humor is a great way to try to address people.
2329
1:51:59
1:52:00
So anyway, thank you.
2330
1:52:01
1:52:04
And I appreciate the forum to,
2331
1:52:05
1:52:07
to kind of speak my mind.
2332
1:52:07
1:52:09
And I plan on getting on here a lot more frequently.
2333
1:52:09
1:52:10
Thanks guys.
2334
1:52:10
1:52:12
Kirk, can I respond to Kirk for a second?
2338
1:52:19
1:52:20
So where is Dr. Thorpe?
2339
1:52:20
1:52:23
No, no, so Curtis go, Jim's doing something else.
2340
1:52:23
1:52:26
First, I would like to agree with Kirk
2341
1:52:26
1:52:31
about the need to give people other alternatives
2342
1:52:31
1:52:33
for getting information.
2343
1:52:33
1:52:36
You're right, he's right, you can't rely on Google,
2344
1:52:36
1:52:38
but you can go to Children's Health Defense website,
2345
1:52:38
1:52:43
you can go to Rumble or listen to Medical Dias of COVID Ethic.
2346
1:52:43
1:52:47
We have to start directing people to the sources
2347
1:52:47
1:52:48
where things aren't censored.
2348
1:52:48
1:52:50
I mean, most of the things on Rumble and Bidshoe
2349
1:52:50
1:52:52
are not censored.
2350
1:52:52
1:52:54
And that's been one of my greatest efforts
2351
1:52:54
1:52:56
to get things out to the average person,
2352
1:52:56
1:52:58
let them know where they can go,
2353
1:52:58
1:53:01
they get high quality, well-researched information,
2354
1:53:01
1:53:04
which they're not gonna get in the mainstream,
2355
1:53:04
1:53:05
social media or mainstream newspapers.
2356
1:53:05
1:53:08
So that's why a lot of the events that I do
2357
1:53:08
1:53:10
are on the streets, in the communities,
2358
1:53:10
1:53:12
handing out flyers, talking to people,
2359
1:53:12
1:53:14
doing local cable shows with people,
2360
1:53:14
1:53:17
get the average person who's not already plugged in.
2361
1:53:17
1:53:19
We got millions of people plugged into our networks,
2362
1:53:19
1:53:21
but we need a lot more.
2363
1:53:21
1:53:23
We need a lot more people on the grassroots,
2364
1:53:23
1:53:25
including people who are Latino.
2365
1:53:25
1:53:28
As bad as things are for a lot of us with our media,
2366
1:53:28
1:53:29
it's worse for the Latino community
2367
1:53:29
1:53:32
because they don't have any alternative sources
2368
1:53:32
1:53:33
of information.
2369
1:53:33
1:53:35
There's nobody else out there hardly
2370
1:53:35
1:53:37
telling them this type of information.
2371
1:53:37
1:53:40
So I think part of the challenge and opportunity
2372
1:53:40
1:53:44
is to get more things to the average person
2373
1:53:44
1:53:45
so they can know where to go.
2374
1:53:45
1:53:47
I'm working on an initiative right now
2375
1:53:47
1:53:51
with some cable channels that can help us do this.
2376
1:53:51
1:53:53
And the other thing, whoever that person, Bob, is,
2377
1:53:53
1:53:54
that Kirk was mentioning,
2378
1:53:54
1:53:56
I'd love to get his full day of the website
2379
1:53:56
1:53:58
and I'd love to see the type of animations
2380
1:53:58
1:54:00
that he's doing on this topic.
2381
1:54:02
1:54:04
Thank you, Curtis.
2382
1:54:05
1:54:07
All right, Jim, did you get,
2383
1:54:07
1:54:09
then I know you've been doing other things
2384
1:54:09
1:54:10
just in terms of Kirk.
2385
1:54:10
1:54:12
The question is, what can we do?
2386
1:54:12
1:54:13
And Curtis has answered that question.
2387
1:54:13
1:54:15
We've got to keep talking to people.
2388
1:54:15
1:54:18
Our messaging, and Curtis made a crucial point,
2389
1:54:18
1:54:21
the marketing of information is the crucial step.
2390
1:54:21
1:54:23
That's up to all of us.
2391
1:54:23
1:54:24
Absolutely. Jim?
2392
1:54:24
1:54:27
And Jim, that is what you're doing.
2393
1:54:27
1:54:28
So we need writers, yeah.
2394
1:54:28
1:54:29
We need writers.
2395
1:54:31
1:54:33
Messagers, people who are experts on messaging.
2396
1:54:34
1:54:36
Sorry, James, you go ahead.
2397
1:54:37
1:54:38
Well, I was just going to ask,
2398
1:54:38
1:54:41
answer the question of Dr. Kirk Moore,
2399
1:54:41
1:54:44
which is, yes, I've aggressively attacked
2400
1:54:44
1:54:46
the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology,
2401
1:54:46
1:54:50
aggressively, all the time, multiple times a week.
2402
1:54:50
1:54:53
And I have communicated with them for over 18 months.
2403
1:54:53
1:54:55
I've been slamming them.
2404
1:54:55
1:54:57
And all they've done is threaten me.
2405
1:54:59
1:55:01
Steve Kirsch, just a week ago,
2406
1:55:01
1:55:05
published my letter to the American Board,
2407
1:55:05
1:55:08
which was probably six months ago.
2408
1:55:08
1:55:10
I've written several letters to them
2409
1:55:10
1:55:12
and they failed to respond.
2410
1:55:12
1:55:13
They don't have any answer.
2411
1:55:13
1:55:15
They don't have any safety data.
2413
1:55:17
1:55:18
Thank you, Jim.
2414
1:55:18
1:55:22
So Charles, Bob Moran is the cartoonist, apparently.
2415
1:55:22
1:55:25
I can't remember who it was.
2416
1:55:25
1:55:26
Just put it in the chat.
2417
1:55:26
1:55:27
Yep, very good.
2418
1:55:27
1:55:28
Thank you.
2419
1:55:29
1:55:30
Thanks for that.
2420
1:55:30
1:55:32
Bob Moran, look him up, Curtis.
2421
1:55:32
1:55:34
He's hilarious.
2422
1:55:34
1:55:35
Fantastic, thank you.
2423
1:55:36
1:55:37
Thank you, Kirk.
2424
1:55:37
1:55:38
Yes, Elbit.
2425
1:55:40
1:55:44
Yeah, Jim, how are you doing, my man?
2426
1:55:44
1:55:46
I love you, God bless you.
2427
1:55:46
1:55:48
I don't know why you like me so much,
2428
1:55:48
1:55:52
but man, may God continue his hedge protection
2429
1:55:52
1:55:54
around you and your family.
2430
1:55:54
1:55:57
So sorry you got to make that quick trip out to,
2431
1:55:58
1:56:01
you know, out to Texas, I guess,
2432
1:56:01
1:56:03
but maybe I shouldn't have said that.
2433
1:56:03
1:56:05
But anyways, God bless you, Jim.
2434
1:56:05
1:56:09
I don't get to see you in person so much,
2435
1:56:09
1:56:11
but I just wanted to throw out that
2436
1:56:11
1:56:12
I didn't really have a question,
2437
1:56:12
1:56:14
but I put up on the chat a download
2438
1:56:14
1:56:17
for those little business cards that we made for you.
2439
1:56:17
1:56:20
Not business cards, but it had, you know,
2440
1:56:21
1:56:25
your picture on there and to say that these jabs aren't good
2441
1:56:25
1:56:29
and, you know, the fertility stuff for people to print out
2442
1:56:29
1:56:32
and take it to the street and hand them out to people.
2443
1:56:32
1:56:35
And it's got a little QR code
2444
1:56:35
1:56:38
that takes you back to more information.
2445
1:56:38
1:56:40
So just grassroots stuff.
2446
1:56:40
1:56:43
And of course, my man, Curtis Cost,
2447
1:56:44
1:56:47
we got a good little group around here,
2448
1:56:47
1:56:50
and I think this is one of the best Zoom groups
2449
1:56:52
1:56:54
going right now and will be remembered
2450
1:56:54
1:56:56
a thousand years from now.
2451
1:56:56
1:57:00
And that goes all the way back to Charles and Dr. Frost.
2452
1:57:00
1:57:04
So thank you guys for keeping this going.
2453
1:57:05
1:57:06
Thank you, Albert.
2454
1:57:06
1:57:07
Thank you.
2455
1:57:07
1:57:08
Thank you, Albert.
2456
1:57:08
1:57:09
Thanks.
2457
1:57:09
1:57:11
Alex Bailey, so we've got one AB
2458
1:57:11
1:57:13
and now we've gone to the next AB.
2459
1:57:13
1:57:16
And then we've got a JB, golly gosh.
2460
1:57:20
1:57:21
Alex, you're on mute.
2461
1:57:21
1:57:22
Alex, you're muted.
2462
1:57:22
1:57:24
Hi, can you hear me?
2463
1:57:24
1:57:25
Yeah, yes.
2464
1:57:25
1:57:26
Sorry, I didn't even realise I have my hand up.
2465
1:57:26
1:57:30
But anyway, I just wanted to say that,
2466
1:57:31
1:57:33
I think it's amazing that
2467
1:57:36
1:57:39
what this group has achieved to date.
2468
1:57:40
1:57:45
I'm putting together a website
2469
1:57:45
1:57:47
which maybe people want to get involved with
2470
1:57:47
1:57:49
called covidconversations.com.
2471
1:57:50
1:57:54
And I want to basically bring to people's attention
2472
1:57:54
1:57:58
what journey we've all been through
2473
1:57:58
1:58:00
and why we've been through this journey
2474
1:58:00
1:58:01
and where we're going
2475
1:58:01
1:58:03
and where we hope to get to in the future.
2476
1:58:03
1:58:05
So just a little sort of shout out
2477
1:58:05
1:58:07
in terms of what I'm working on right now.
2478
1:58:07
1:58:10
And if people want to spread the word
2479
1:58:10
1:58:14
about what they're trying to achieve
2480
1:58:14
1:58:15
with confronting all the problems
2481
1:58:18
1:58:21
with the law and all the health issues
2482
1:58:21
1:58:23
around the COVID scandemic,
2483
1:58:24
1:58:27
I'm quite a useful asset for people here in Europe
2484
1:58:27
1:58:29
in particular, in France
2485
1:58:29
1:58:33
and getting to heads of various people in the media here.
2486
1:58:33
1:58:34
We have good networks here.
2487
1:58:34
1:58:39
So please contact me and share whatever information you've got.
2488
1:58:39
1:58:39
And that's what I'm going to say.
2489
1:58:39
1:58:43
Alex, you're a British citizen, yes?
2490
1:58:43
1:58:45
I'm a British citizen living in France.
2491
1:58:45
1:58:46
And you live in France, you're in France.
2492
1:58:46
1:58:47
Correct, yeah.
2493
1:58:47
1:58:50
And I work with an organisation,
2494
1:58:50
1:58:54
I have direct links to an organisation called Bonfant, S-E-N-S.
2495
1:58:56
1:58:59
And I share a lot of information with them.
2496
1:58:59
1:59:01
They basically put together a lot of information
2497
1:59:01
1:59:05
for prosecuting various legal cases
2498
1:59:06
1:59:08
against various governments
2499
1:59:08
1:59:11
and medical institutions, et cetera, et cetera.
2500
1:59:11
1:59:13
So I'm a resource in terms of information,
2501
1:59:13
1:59:17
but I'm going to be putting out my sort of website
2502
1:59:17
1:59:18
in the next two to three weeks
2503
1:59:18
1:59:19
in terms of COVID conversations,
2504
1:59:20
1:59:22
which is going to be more to capture
2505
1:59:22
1:59:25
the historical relevance of the journey we've all been on
2506
1:59:25
1:59:27
and how we're going to get from A to B.
2507
1:59:27
1:59:29
Because a lot of the stuff that we share here
2508
1:59:29
1:59:31
doesn't get out into what I call
2509
1:59:31
1:59:33
German, French, Spanish, or Portuguese.
2510
1:59:33
1:59:36
So that's where I'm coming from in terms of trying to edit
2511
1:59:36
1:59:39
or cherry pick some of the low-hanging fruit
2512
1:59:39
1:59:41
of what we're all discussing.
2513
1:59:41
1:59:42
So that's what I'm going to speak about.
2514
1:59:42
1:59:47
Your website, are you intending to catalogue the information
2515
1:59:47
1:59:51
like a relentless librarian?
2516
1:59:51
1:59:52
Correct.
2517
1:59:52
1:59:54
I want to basically even cherry pick
2518
1:59:54
1:59:57
some of the conversations of the people we've had on here
2519
1:59:57
2:00:01
in days gone past, edit out some of the video snippets,
2520
2:00:01
2:00:05
put it together in what I call more like Twitter,
2521
2:00:07
2:00:09
sound bites so that people, and actually,
2522
2:00:10
2:00:12
because my team here can actually translate this
2523
2:00:12
2:00:15
into German, French, Spanish, and Italian.
2524
2:00:15
2:00:17
And we can actually expedite
2525
2:00:18
2:00:20
the messages that we want to get across to people.
2526
2:00:20
2:00:22
Generally speaking, people only have 30 seconds
2527
2:00:22
2:00:24
to read a headline before they've moved
2528
2:00:24
2:00:25
on to the next subject.
2529
2:00:25
2:00:29
So that's where I'm honing my spear.
2530
2:00:29
2:00:32
And so I'm just throwing down the gauntlet to everyone here
2531
2:00:32
2:00:35
and saying, if you want a resource here
2532
2:00:35
2:00:37
that can help spread the word here in Europe,
2533
2:00:38
2:00:40
please knock at my door and contact me.
2534
2:00:41
2:00:45
Alex, I think there's a real need for people
2535
2:00:45
2:00:48
who have the skills of librarians,
2536
2:00:48
2:00:50
but not necessarily the views.
2537
2:00:50
2:00:55
So we need people like you to act as librarians,
2538
2:00:56
2:01:00
essentially, and catalog and store the information
2539
2:01:00
2:01:03
and maybe form timelines if you have time,
2540
2:01:03
2:01:05
because timelines are-
2541
2:01:05
2:01:07
I think, yeah, I mean, Stephen,
2542
2:01:07
2:01:09
let's take this conversation
2543
2:01:12
2:01:15
of the current topic now, or the conversation now.
2544
2:01:15
2:01:17
I'd like to follow up with you and Charles,
2545
2:01:17
2:01:19
and I'll email you both and just say,
2546
2:01:19
2:01:21
let's try and put this into a format
2547
2:01:21
2:01:23
which is easy to-
2548
2:01:23
2:01:26
and create the chronology of events
2549
2:01:26
2:01:29
that's led up to where we are now and where we're going.
2550
2:01:29
2:01:32
The destination is we have to destroy
2551
2:01:32
2:01:37
this satanic enterprise that is we're fighting against.
2552
2:01:37
2:01:41
And Alex, may I suggest that you search out the information
2553
2:01:41
2:01:42
which has been knocked off the internet,
2554
2:01:42
2:01:45
but is stored on, what is it, way back or something?
2555
2:01:46
2:01:48
Pull that out, because obviously,
2556
2:01:48
2:01:51
that's information that they don't like us to see,
2557
2:01:51
2:01:52
and we need to find it.
2558
2:01:53
2:01:56
It's all there, and we all need to work together.
2559
2:01:56
2:01:58
So yeah, okay, over now.
2560
2:01:58
2:01:59
Thank you, Alex.
2561
2:01:59
2:02:00
All right, John.
2562
2:02:00
2:02:01
Thanks, Alex.
2563
2:02:01
2:02:05
John, John the Bowdwin.
2564
2:02:05
2:02:06
Hello, all.
2565
2:02:06
2:02:08
Dr. Thorpe, are you still there?
2566
2:02:08
2:02:10
Yes, sir, I'm still here.
2567
2:02:10
2:02:11
Okay, excellent.
2568
2:02:11
2:02:12
Good to see you again.
2569
2:02:13
2:02:14
There are two things that you mentioned
2570
2:02:14
2:02:18
that are kind of right up my alley I've been working on.
2571
2:02:18
2:02:22
I just wanted to, well, number one,
2572
2:02:22
2:02:24
I have this, I call it the Vermont Memorandum
2573
2:02:24
2:02:24
I'm gonna come out with,
2574
2:02:24
2:02:28
and that's to put all the politicians on notice.
2575
2:02:28
2:02:30
That's a legal term of art,
2576
2:02:30
2:02:32
meaning that they will have knowledge that
2577
2:02:34
2:02:35
there are,
2578
2:02:35
2:02:37
there are injuries that flow from their actions.
2579
2:02:37
2:02:38
Once they have knowledge,
2580
2:02:38
2:02:41
they can no longer claim mistake or ignorance of fact
2581
2:02:41
2:02:43
as a defense in the future.
2582
2:02:43
2:02:45
So it kind of boxes them in a corner.
2583
2:02:46
2:02:49
And with it, I have death certificates,
2584
2:02:49
2:02:51
various records correlated, plenty of deaths.
2585
2:02:51
2:02:53
I mean, very obvious deaths.
2586
2:02:53
2:02:56
So if you'd like to talk about that,
2587
2:02:56
2:02:57
I'd be happy to talk to you offline about that.
2588
2:02:57
2:03:01
Secondly, as far as tearing the whole system down,
2589
2:03:02
2:03:03
rebuilding it, I mean,
2590
2:03:03
2:03:05
a lot of us agree with you definitely on that.
2591
2:03:06
2:03:09
The way to do it is the question.
2592
2:03:09
2:03:14
I've floated an idea to, I'll just say,
2593
2:03:15
2:03:17
you know a few big names,
2594
2:03:18
2:03:22
and I was told put it together and send it.
2595
2:03:22
2:03:25
I would like for you to review what I'm doing
2596
2:03:25
2:03:27
because it's right up your alley.
2597
2:03:27
2:03:31
It's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
2598
2:03:32
2:03:34
it's international medical ethics.
2599
2:03:34
2:03:38
It's a reaffirmation of Nuremberg code, Hippocratic oath,
2600
2:03:38
2:03:40
the Helsinki declaration,
2601
2:03:40
2:03:44
adding on it a layer with regard to genetics
2602
2:03:44
2:03:46
and electronics and new stuff that we have to deal with
2603
2:03:47
2:03:51
and having a watchers of the watchers.
2604
2:03:51
2:03:56
In other words, citizens watching the FDA and CDC
2605
2:03:56
2:03:59
to ensure that they aren't corrupted by pharma.
2606
2:03:59
2:04:01
And so we just clean them out and start over.
2607
2:04:01
2:04:04
So I think you'll really like the idea.
2608
2:04:05
2:04:07
It's probably, I'm not gonna say the organization
2609
2:04:07
2:04:11
it's gonna go to, but there's a newly formed organization
2610
2:04:11
2:04:14
with a very, very big name that's between the US
2611
2:04:14
2:04:19
and Switzerland and it's international.
2612
2:04:19
2:04:22
So, you know, if you're in, I wanted to tell you now
2613
2:04:22
2:04:24
so that you don't forget about me
2614
2:04:24
2:04:27
and let's talk offline about that, okay?
2615
2:04:27
2:04:29
Love to John.
2616
2:04:29
2:04:30
All right, thank you.
2617
2:04:30
2:04:31
Thanks.
2618
2:04:31
2:04:33
Well done John, good thinking.
2619
2:04:33
2:04:35
All right, everybody, we've got 20 minutes to go.
2620
2:04:35
2:04:37
We finished at the two and a half hour mark on the dot.
2621
2:04:37
2:04:39
Thank you Curtis and Jim for being here
2622
2:04:39
2:04:41
both with your schedules.
2623
2:04:41
2:04:44
We've got Jim Thomas now, former flight,
2624
2:04:44
2:04:45
what are you Jim?
2625
2:04:45
2:04:48
Just remind us your flight surgeon, what were you?
2626
2:04:48
2:04:49
What are you?
2627
2:04:50
2:04:53
Yes, former Navy flight surgeon.
2628
2:04:53
2:04:55
Thank you.
2629
2:04:55
2:04:58
So most importantly, John is a radiologist.
2630
2:04:58
2:05:00
Ha ha, correct.
2631
2:05:00
2:05:01
He sees through things as well.
2632
2:05:01
2:05:03
That's right, we knew the Jim things.
2633
2:05:05
2:05:08
The two Jims, there we go.
2634
2:05:08
2:05:12
Right, so Jim, thanks very much for all you're doing.
2635
2:05:12
2:05:14
Number one, we're talking about this COVID
2636
2:05:14
2:05:17
as if we know it exists or don't know it exists.
2637
2:05:18
2:05:21
We may wanna consider talking about
2638
2:05:21
2:05:24
the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein
2639
2:05:24
2:05:28
because that's exactly what is the mRNA makes our body make.
2640
2:05:28
2:05:33
So consider that as the conversation
2641
2:05:34
2:05:36
because that is theoretically
2642
2:05:36
2:05:39
what's being tested on the PCR or whatever.
2643
2:05:40
2:05:45
Number two, the issue of children
2644
2:05:48
2:05:53
and who is actually in charge of this
2645
2:05:54
2:05:58
the who and who is above the World Health Organization.
2646
2:05:59
2:06:03
Just understand that the Secret Service
2647
2:06:05
2:06:08
is under the Department of the Treasury
2648
2:06:08
2:06:10
and the Secret Service was established
2649
2:06:10
2:06:14
on the 14th of April, 1865,
2650
2:06:14
2:06:16
the same day Lincoln was assassinated
2651
2:06:16
2:06:18
because he was talking about taking us off of,
2652
2:06:20
2:06:21
what do you wanna call it?
2653
2:06:24
2:06:24
The federal.
2654
2:06:26
2:06:31
So the question is a couple of things.
2655
2:06:31
2:06:36
Knowing that that's one of the issues
2656
2:06:36
2:06:40
that it is the people who were, and JFK the same thing,
2657
2:06:40
2:06:44
he was about to take us off of the Federal Reserve System
2658
2:06:44
2:06:47
understanding that our financial system
2659
2:06:47
2:06:48
could have been done on our own
2660
2:06:48
2:06:50
rather than going through the Federal Reserve
2661
2:06:51
2:06:53
World Child Banking System.
2662
2:06:53
2:06:55
And he also was assassinated.
2663
2:07:03
2:07:05
How do you address the bigger issue
2664
2:07:05
2:07:08
that this may be not just the...
2665
2:07:08
2:07:10
You've broken up, so Jim has missed half your question.
2666
2:07:10
2:07:11
Start your question again.
2668
2:07:17
2:07:19
You know what, does anybody have one?
2669
2:07:19
2:07:21
I'm just gonna try and have to get to a better
2670
2:07:22
2:07:25
place and then I can just get somebody else to answer.
2671
2:07:25
2:07:29
The best thing, Jim, is just try switching your video off
2672
2:07:29
2:07:31
and then you'll have a bit more capacity
2673
2:07:31
2:07:32
and then it will probably work.
2674
2:07:32
2:07:35
So your sound is breaking.
2677
2:07:41
2:07:45
Yeah, and it's because I'm moving rather than this,
2678
2:07:45
2:07:48
so I'm gonna step away and then you'll be able to hear me.
2679
2:07:48
2:07:53
So, yeah, sorry about that.
2680
2:07:55
2:07:58
The Federal Reserve System,
2681
2:07:58
2:08:02
the Federal Reserve controls the Secret Service
2682
2:08:02
2:08:07
and the Secret Service is,
2683
2:08:07
2:08:08
the purpose of the Secret Service
2684
2:08:08
2:08:10
is not to protect the President,
2685
2:08:11
2:08:16
but to protect the currency and to stop counterfeiting.
2686
2:08:17
2:08:22
So since the Secret Service was started
2687
2:08:22
2:08:25
on the 14th of April, 1865,
2688
2:08:25
2:08:29
the same day Lincoln was assassinated
2689
2:08:29
2:08:33
and also Kennedy was assassinated
2690
2:08:33
2:08:36
because he was going to do quote,
2691
2:08:36
2:08:39
counterfeit currency or currency not done
2692
2:08:39
2:08:43
by the Federal Reserve.
2693
2:08:43
2:08:46
This may be the link, the Federal Reserve may be the issue
2694
2:08:46
2:08:49
of how this corporate structure
2695
2:08:49
2:08:54
or the corporate industrial complex is facilitated
2696
2:09:01
2:09:05
and they may have links to the Department of Defense
2697
2:09:05
2:09:07
because Sasha Ladoeva showed that this,
2698
2:09:07
2:09:10
so the Department of Defense is in on this
2699
2:09:10
2:09:11
and if the Department of Defense
2700
2:09:11
2:09:16
and these people are actually quote, demonic,
2701
2:09:16
2:09:19
then are they hurting our little angels or the babies
2702
2:09:19
2:09:21
that you're so working hard to protect?
2703
2:09:21
2:09:25
And is this actually a demonic war
2704
2:09:25
2:09:30
where they are using these jabs to harm the children
2705
2:09:31
2:09:36
and then remove the restrictions on child abuse
2706
2:09:38
2:09:40
actually focusing demons on the angels?
2707
2:09:41
2:09:42
Thanks.
2708
2:09:43
2:09:46
I mean, in response to your question,
2709
2:09:46
2:09:48
I mean, that may well be the case.
2710
2:09:48
2:09:53
This is a spiritual war, evil against good
2711
2:09:53
2:09:57
and I don't really wanna comment on anything
2712
2:09:57
2:10:01
except what I'm willing to die for right now
2713
2:10:01
2:10:05
to stake my life on and that is that the shots
2714
2:10:05
2:10:07
are killing my patients.
2715
2:10:07
2:10:10
Stop the shots immediately.
2716
2:10:10
2:10:13
I don't wanna argue about who's doing it
2717
2:10:13
2:10:15
or motives of what somebody else is doing
2718
2:10:15
2:10:20
or whether all these other stuff are peripheral.
2719
2:10:20
2:10:21
It's poison.
2720
2:10:21
2:10:25
Stop poisoning the people of the world.
2721
2:10:25
2:10:28
Over 13 billion people have been poisoned.
2722
2:10:28
2:10:30
Over five, I'm sorry,
2723
2:10:30
2:10:34
over 13 billion shots have been administered.
2724
2:10:34
2:10:38
Over 5.7 billion people have been poisoned.
2725
2:10:38
2:10:41
They've killed my patients, women of reproductive age,
2726
2:10:41
2:10:43
pregnant women, pre-borns and newborns,
2727
2:10:43
2:10:47
the most vulnerable population all over the world.
2728
2:10:47
2:10:49
Ban the shots.
2729
2:10:49
2:10:51
I don't care about anything else.
2730
2:10:51
2:10:52
Stop the shots.
2731
2:10:53
2:10:55
Thank you, Jim.
2732
2:10:55
2:10:58
Clarity of mission, thank you, Jim and Jim.
2733
2:10:58
2:10:59
Thank you, Jim.
2734
2:10:59
2:11:00
Okay, final questions.
2735
2:11:00
2:11:03
Stephen, over to you and Curtis,
2736
2:11:03
2:11:05
I don't know where he went.
2737
2:11:05
2:11:06
He did he drop off or did he leave?
2738
2:11:06
2:11:10
But the clarity of messaging, everybody,
2739
2:11:10
2:11:12
what Jim is showing is the importance
2740
2:11:12
2:11:17
of clarity of messaging because less is more.
2741
2:11:18
2:11:22
Less messaging equals more impact.
2742
2:11:22
2:11:24
If you cover a thousand messages
2743
2:11:24
2:11:25
and there's a thousand messages
2744
2:11:25
2:11:29
from the 100 people on this call, 10 messages each,
2745
2:11:29
2:11:32
that's a thousand messages, it achieves little.
2746
2:11:32
2:11:34
People get confused.
2747
2:11:34
2:11:36
Jim's message is very clear.
2748
2:11:37
2:11:39
Stephen, over to you.
2749
2:11:39
2:11:40
Final questions.
2750
2:11:40
2:11:41
Correct, Charles.
2751
2:11:41
2:11:45
And I think that if people think about
2752
2:11:45
2:11:48
what is the main message that they would like to get out
2753
2:11:48
2:11:51
and then stick to that message,
2754
2:11:51
2:11:54
rather than trying to think of a hundred things
2755
2:11:54
2:11:57
which are wrong with the nonsense narrative
2756
2:11:58
2:12:01
and thereby they dilute their own best message.
2757
2:12:02
2:12:04
So a lot of people don't want,
2758
2:12:04
2:12:07
they use the scatter gun approach instead of constant.
2759
2:12:07
2:12:10
So if you look at what the governments
2760
2:12:10
2:12:12
around the world have done, they put out propaganda
2761
2:12:12
2:12:15
and they say, there is simple messaging.
2762
2:12:15
2:12:17
That's how human beings operate.
2763
2:12:17
2:12:19
We need to do the same.
2764
2:12:19
2:12:23
We do not need to prove everything we say.
2765
2:12:23
2:12:28
And we can, it's ethical surely to employ all means possible
2766
2:12:28
2:12:32
including propaganda if the intent is good.
2767
2:12:33
2:12:38
So James, I've been conscious that a few times
2768
2:12:38
2:12:40
you've been kind of pushed aside.
2769
2:12:40
2:12:43
So is there anything that you would like to say
2770
2:12:44
2:12:46
to people watching?
2771
2:12:48
2:12:50
Me, Jim Thorpe?
2772
2:12:50
2:12:51
Yeah, you, yeah.
2773
2:12:51
2:12:53
Oh no, I haven't felt pushed aside.
2774
2:12:53
2:12:54
I'm so honored to be involved
2775
2:12:54
2:12:56
with this incredible platform, thank you.
2776
2:12:56
2:13:01
And I just wanna say that, you know, Dr. Peter McCullough
2777
2:13:02
2:13:07
and myself have made the jab,
2778
2:13:07
2:13:11
the COVID-19 genetic technology shot a black box.
2779
2:13:11
2:13:14
It is contraindicated in pregnancy.
2780
2:13:14
2:13:16
It's category X in pregnancy.
2781
2:13:16
2:13:21
Do not trust any of your hospitals, your care providers
2782
2:13:21
2:13:23
or physicians or nurses.
2783
2:13:23
2:13:26
It's banned worldwide.
2784
2:13:26
2:13:28
It is a worldwide poison.
2785
2:13:28
2:13:30
Don't ever take it.
2786
2:13:30
2:13:31
Thank you.
2787
2:13:31
2:13:36
Sure, so James, but so maybe you want to confine it to that
2788
2:13:36
2:13:40
but you are a doctor and you must have views on, you know
2789
2:13:40
2:13:42
how has this come about?
2790
2:13:42
2:13:45
Doctors have been led so far astray.
2791
2:13:45
2:13:50
I was trying to say earlier that doctors are the foot soldiers
2792
2:13:50
2:13:55
of the evil ones in this world, it seems to me.
2793
2:13:55
2:13:59
And so I think people maybe are including me
2794
2:13:59
2:14:03
are a little bit surprised that doctors have been targeted
2795
2:14:03
2:14:06
to the extent that they have, but it was always inevitable
2796
2:14:06
2:14:07
that they were going to be targeted.
2797
2:14:07
2:14:12
If you think of the power that each individual doctor
2798
2:14:12
2:14:17
has over his patients and so power to do evil.
2799
2:14:17
2:14:22
And so obviously, you know, politicians are lobbied,
2800
2:14:22
2:14:26
doctors are lobbied, politicians are led astray,
2801
2:14:26
2:14:27
doctors are led astray.
2802
2:14:27
2:14:28
We should have realized this.
2803
2:14:28
2:14:30
I should have realized it.
2804
2:14:31
2:14:35
And I didn't realize that it was happening to this extent
2805
2:14:35
2:14:38
but this last three years, it's become very, very clear
2806
2:14:38
2:14:41
that something was terribly, terribly wrong.
2807
2:14:41
2:14:45
I personally think that this system cannot be reformed.
2808
2:14:45
2:14:46
We have to start again.
2809
2:14:46
2:14:49
We have to start over, as you say, in America.
2810
2:14:49
2:14:52
And that was said about the IRS at Congress.
2811
2:14:52
2:14:56
I think that was right about two years ago or maybe three.
2812
2:14:57
2:15:02
And so I think we need to kind of get our message in order,
2813
2:15:03
2:15:06
you know, your message, my message, each of us individually.
2814
2:15:06
2:15:10
And we have to think of ways to use people and not use
2815
2:15:10
2:15:14
but to get people like Curtis, whose job is to transmit ideas
2816
2:15:14
2:15:19
as I understand it, he's very good at talking
2817
2:15:19
2:15:22
and he knows what people are interested in.
2818
2:15:23
2:15:27
So you and I, James, we don't necessarily know
2819
2:15:27
2:15:29
what people are interested in.
2820
2:15:29
2:15:33
We may think we know, but we don't really know
2821
2:15:33
2:15:34
what's going on in people's heads.
2822
2:15:34
2:15:38
I mean, in the last three years, I've been shocked.
2823
2:15:38
2:15:42
I thought that people thought vaguely as I did.
2824
2:15:42
2:15:44
And I think a lot of people think that, you know,
2825
2:15:44
2:15:46
throughout their lives.
2826
2:15:46
2:15:47
And it's come as a real shock to me
2827
2:15:47
2:15:50
that it's not like that at all.
2828
2:15:50
2:15:53
Even in this group, we all think differently.
2829
2:15:53
2:15:55
That's fine, but we didn't even realize,
2830
2:15:55
2:15:57
I didn't even realize, I don't know whether you did.
2831
2:15:59
2:16:03
So I just wonder whether you've got any broad points
2832
2:16:03
2:16:06
that you may have in your mind, which you haven't said so far.
2833
2:16:08
2:16:10
I think I've spoken my piece
2834
2:16:10
2:16:14
and I really appreciate your comment.
2835
2:16:14
2:16:18
Everyone, I guess I would like to,
2836
2:16:18
2:16:19
just I didn't get a chance to,
2837
2:16:19
2:16:24
I hope everybody knows Dr. Kirk Moore and he's my hero.
2838
2:16:27
2:16:29
For those of you, you know, you heard about
2839
2:16:29
2:16:33
the black box warning and the category acts
2840
2:16:33
2:16:35
and pregnancy proclamation.
2841
2:16:35
2:16:38
Well, you might say, well, Thorpe,
2842
2:16:38
2:16:42
where in Hades do you get the authority to do that?
2843
2:16:42
2:16:43
Well, I take the authority to do it
2844
2:16:43
2:16:45
because the people that should be doing it
2845
2:16:45
2:16:48
are incompetent lying cheaters.
2846
2:16:49
2:16:52
So I've also awarded for those
2847
2:16:52
2:16:55
who's just a formal announcement going out globally,
2848
2:16:55
2:16:59
Dr. Kirk Moore has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize
2849
2:16:59
2:17:01
for what he's done.
2850
2:17:01
2:17:04
He's also been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor
2851
2:17:04
2:17:06
for what he's done.
2852
2:17:06
2:17:09
And he's also been awarded,
2853
2:17:09
2:17:13
he's being officially knighted by the UK,
2854
2:17:13
2:17:14
by whose authority?
2855
2:17:14
2:17:15
By mine.
2856
2:17:15
2:17:17
And he's also been awarded the Silver Star.
2857
2:17:18
2:17:19
So he gets awarded-
2858
2:17:19
2:17:21
Sorry, who's that, James?
2859
2:17:21
2:17:23
The Silver Star.
2860
2:17:23
2:17:25
Yes, but who is this you're talking about?
2861
2:17:25
2:17:27
This is Dr. Kirk Moore, who is on the-
2862
2:17:27
2:17:28
Who's on this call.
2863
2:17:28
2:17:29
Who's on this call.
2864
2:17:29
2:17:29
Oh, right, yes.
2865
2:17:29
2:17:31
Thorpe Moore is being prosecuted
2866
2:17:31
2:17:35
because he did the job of saving lives.
2867
2:17:35
2:17:37
And let's be clear, this man is a hero.
2868
2:17:37
2:17:41
He put his life and his entire career
2869
2:17:41
2:17:43
for saving his patients.
2870
2:17:43
2:17:46
Those patients that wanted to not have the shot
2871
2:17:46
2:17:49
for their children, he wasted the vaccine
2872
2:17:49
2:17:50
and gave them saline.
2873
2:17:50
2:17:52
He's a hero, he's a bloody hero,
2874
2:17:52
2:17:54
and he should be acknowledged as such.
2875
2:17:54
2:17:58
And he's being prosecuted, fined, his career destroyed,
2876
2:17:58
2:17:59
and maybe put in jail.
2877
2:17:59
2:18:03
So he is a hero, and he is the hero
2878
2:18:03
2:18:07
like Dietrich Bonhoeffer in World War II.
2880
2:18:09
2:18:11
And so James, do you have an idea
2881
2:18:11
2:18:14
of how we're going to bring the people responsible
2882
2:18:14
2:18:16
for what's happened in the last three years,
2883
2:18:16
2:18:21
the massive evil, the huge crimes?
2884
2:18:21
2:18:23
Do you have an idea how we're going to bring
2885
2:18:23
2:18:24
these people to account?
2886
2:18:24
2:18:27
And also how are we going to fully understand
2887
2:18:27
2:18:28
what has gone on?
2888
2:18:28
2:18:30
Because if we don't understand what has gone on,
2889
2:18:30
2:18:33
we're never going to hold them properly to account
2890
2:18:33
2:18:37
because we risk holding them to account
2891
2:18:37
2:18:38
for the wrong things.
2892
2:18:39
2:18:42
So it's a bit much to ask you,
2893
2:18:42
2:18:45
but I just wonder if you've got any ideas.
2894
2:18:45
2:18:46
No, it's already solved.
2895
2:18:46
2:18:48
That's a too big a question.
2896
2:18:48
2:18:49
We're going to let Jim go.
2897
2:18:49
2:18:50
Everyone's going to go.
2898
2:18:50
2:18:53
Okay, well, how do we expose the criminality then?
2899
2:18:53
2:18:56
How do we get these people,
2900
2:18:56
2:18:58
how do we differentiate between those people
2901
2:18:58
2:19:01
who didn't know what was going on
2902
2:19:01
2:19:03
and were misled by the system,
2903
2:19:03
2:19:06
and those who are actually culpable
2904
2:19:06
2:19:10
and you could argue that all the people who complied
2905
2:19:10
2:19:13
were culpable because they kept the thing going.
2906
2:19:13
2:19:16
But how do we sort out who is complicit
2907
2:19:16
2:19:18
and who is responsible?
2908
2:19:18
2:19:19
Because if we can't do that,
2909
2:19:19
2:19:21
we're not going to be able to hold people to account
2910
2:19:21
2:19:22
unless we just-
2911
2:19:22
2:19:26
I think the powers that be have clearly elucidated
2912
2:19:26
2:19:28
in many published books,
2913
2:19:28
2:19:31
exactly for certain who's accountable.
2914
2:19:31
2:19:33
And then there's a lot of people in the gray area
2915
2:19:33
2:19:38
that you and I probably are not in a position
2916
2:19:38
2:19:40
to make that decision,
2917
2:19:40
2:19:44
but a court of law or a tribunal, military tribunal
2918
2:19:44
2:19:48
or Nuremberg court should, absolutely should.
2919
2:19:48
2:19:48
Exactly.
2920
2:19:49
2:19:52
All right, we're off.
2921
2:19:52
2:19:53
Thank you, Jim.
2922
2:19:53
2:19:54
Thank you, Jim.
2923
2:19:54
2:19:54
Thank you, Curtis.
2924
2:19:54
2:19:55
Is there any absent here?
2925
2:19:55
2:19:57
Thank you very much for having me.
2926
2:19:57
2:19:59
Thank you for your time, Jim.
2927
2:19:59
2:20:00
Thank you, Uwe Kirk.
2928
2:20:00
2:20:01
Thank you.
2929
2:20:01
2:20:03
Thank you for all the questions, everybody.
2930
2:20:03
2:20:05
The Telegram chat is in the link
2931
2:20:05
2:20:07
for those who have the video.
2932
2:20:07
2:20:09
We're back on Tuesday afternoon,
2933
2:20:09
2:20:12
Tuesday evening, Wednesday morning, Australian time.
2934
2:20:12
2:20:14
Thank you all for being here.
2935
2:20:14
2:20:19
Save the chat and fight your fight.
2936
2:20:19
2:20:24
Be clear on your messaging and stay strong.
2937
2:20:24
2:20:26
As that wonderful quote says,
2938
2:20:26
2:20:31
I'd rather die standing than to kneel living.
2939
2:20:31
2:20:34
So Jim has made that statement.
2940
2:20:34
2:20:35
Kirk Moore is doing that.
2941
2:20:35
2:20:37
Stephen, you're doing that.
2942
2:20:37
2:20:37
I'm doing that.
2943
2:20:37
2:20:39
All of us here are doing that.
2944
2:20:39
2:20:40
Albert, you're doing that.
2945
2:20:40
2:20:41
Shasta's doing it.
2946
2:20:41
2:20:43
We have to keep doing it, everybody.
2947
2:20:43
2:20:45
We're three years into a six-year war,
2948
2:20:45
2:20:47
so there's no chance to get tired.
2949
2:20:47
2:20:50
All right, thanks for being here.
2950
2:20:50
2:20:52
Wonderful night, wonderful day,
2951
2:20:52
2:20:53
and we'll see you on Tuesday.
2953
2:20:54
2:20:55
Thanks, Stephen.
2954
2:20:55
2:20:56
Bye, everybody.
2955
2:20:56
2:20:57
Bye, John.
2956
2:20:57
2:20:57
Thank you.
2957
2:20:57
2:20:58
Thank you, James.