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Thank you Juliet for being here.
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So let's get this show on the road everybody.
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Welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International
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and today's discussion.
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This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost
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almost four years ago with a desire to pursue
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truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.
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Stephen has stood up against government
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and power over the years and has been a whistleblower
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and activist, his medical specialty is radiology.
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Right now in Australia, it's 5 a.m. and it's the 5th of May.
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And I'm told it's Reiner Fullmick's birthday today.
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Not for you Europeans or Americans, but for us Australians.
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We're way ahead of you guys.
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We're a day ahead.
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So happy birthday to Reiner and we remember him at this time
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and we commit to shining a light on his plight
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and the unlawful, corrupt behavior of the German government.
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Reiner is a true warrior for freedom and truth
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and proper application of law.
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I'm Charles Covesse, the moderator of this group.
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I practiced law for 20 years before changing career
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32 years ago and over the last 14 years,
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I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies
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for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice.
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I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company
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and I'm involved in two charities that,
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in fact three charities that are fighting
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against child trafficking, which is very relevant
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to our guests today.
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We comprise lots of professions here
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and we're from all around the world.
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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.
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Now, many of us proudly say, yes, we are passionate
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anti-vaxxers and I'm one of them.
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And as Bobby Kennedy has confirmed publicly
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and many others, and I say each time,
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each of these meetings, there has never been a vaccine
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that has been properly tested for safety and efficacy ever
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in the history of humankind.
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Anyone who wants to prove the opposite, please go ahead.
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If this is your first time here, welcome
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and feel free to introduce yourself in the chat.
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If you publish a newsletter or a podcast,
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put the details into the chats, put the links in the chat
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so we can promote you and follow you.
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Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III
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and the medical science battle is only one of 12 battlefronts
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of this latest world war.
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There's no time to be tired.
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We're five years into a seven year war.
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It might be an eight year war.
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So look after your health and be up for the fight.
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The meeting runs for two and a half hours
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after which for those with the time,
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Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting.
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Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join.
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We'll listen to our two guest presenters today,
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Juliet Engel and Cathy O'Brien
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for as long as they wish to speak.
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And then we have Q&A.
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Stephen Frost asks the first questions for 15 minutes.
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This is a free speech environment
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with appropriate moderating free speech
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is crucially important in our fight
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to preserve our human freedoms.
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So if you're offended by anything, be offended.
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We are lovingly not interested.
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We reject the offense industry
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that requires nobody to say anything
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that may offend another.
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And we similarly reject the triggering industry.
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Don't talk about child trafficking
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because somebody might be triggered.
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Both of them are attacks on free speech.
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However, we come with an attitude
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and perspective of love, not fear.
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Fear is the opposite of love.
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Fear squashes you, enslaves you,
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sickens you.
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Love, on the other hand, expands you,
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liberates you and heals you.
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These twice weekly meetings are not just talkfests.
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An extraordinary range of actions and initiatives
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have been generated from linkages made by attendees
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in these meetings,
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including Jerome Corsi commissioning books
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and all sorts of interesting stuff and people.
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And we haven't heard of a marriage yet being created,
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but we're on the job, you know.
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We'll consider this an introductory agency.
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So any of you that wanna meet anybody else on this call,
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let's know and we'll see what we can do.
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If you have a solution or a product,
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put the links into the resources.
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The meeting is recorded and is uploaded
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on the Rumble channel.
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And now welcome to our two guest presenters today,
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Juliet Engel and Cathy O'Brien.
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We thank you both for giving us your time,
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wisdom and insights.
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Thank you Daria again for introducing,
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for bringing them to us.
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And for the purposes of the recording,
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let me give short bios of the two of them.
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First of all, Dr. Juliet Engel,
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who was born into a family of OSSCIA NSA operatives
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and was sold into the MK Ultra program Monarch
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by her father at the age of six.
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Juliet survived a childhood of mind control,
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satanic ritual abuse and faced a future
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as a prostitute for the CIA.
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Fortunately, she escaped at the age of 17
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and put herself through a university and medical school,
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becoming a physician in Seattle
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and having no memory of her childhood.
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During a mission to improve medical care
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for children in orphanages,
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she discovered a link between the state institutions
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and an international network that trafficked
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young Russian girls to Scandinavia for prostitution.
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She followed their trail north into Norway
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where she ran hit long into the international slave trade
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of the 20th century.
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From that point forward,
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there was no turning back for the determined doctor.
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As Juliet travelled through the former USSR,
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she was often at great personal peril,
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building a network of villagers, educators, police,
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media and government officials called the Angel Coalition,
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who committed their talents and resources
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to creating an underground railroad
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that helped thousands of trafficking victims
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to return safely home.
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As a result of her work,
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Juliet became eyewitness to the collapse of an empire
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as the USSR broke apart and the Russian people struggled
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to find their identity without losing their humanity.
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In the 10 years that Juliet ran the Angel Coalition
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to Moscow, the Russian angels saved over 70,000 children.
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Juliet is now back home in America
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and planning a nationwide public information campaign
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starting in May, 2025,
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with her new podcast, Angels Over America.
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Kathy O'Brien has been speaking out for over 35 years
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on her experiences in MKUltra,
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mind control and healing from it.
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Knowledge is our defense against mind control
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and Kathy's experience on a White House Pentagon level
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empowers Kathy's insight into far reaching effects
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of mind control on society today
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and what you can do to reclaim, protect
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and expand your free thought.
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Her website is trans-formation.com,
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on X she is at real Kathy O'Brien
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and her books are secured through her website,
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trans-formation.com, someone will put that in the chat
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and on Audible.
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Kathy O'Brien's 1995 testimony for Congress
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is censored under national security
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was released in book form, Transformation of America
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and her next book, Access Denied for Reasons
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of National Security, details, marks and her journey
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through the corrupted child protective services
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to help her daughter, Kelly.
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And PTSD, Time to Heal is comprised of healing methods
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that Mark taught Kathy O'Brien
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and is now reminding others to heal from within
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just as Kathy did.
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Juliet and Kathy want an extraordinary story
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and it was G. Edward Griffin last week announced
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that the HHS is the key vector
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to child trafficking in America.
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So how about that everybody?
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So Juliet and Kathy, we're over to you.
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You can share your screens if you wish.
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We are All Ears and Stephen Frost again.
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Thank you for creating this group
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and for organizing Juliet and Kathy to be here today.
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So Juliet and Kathy, over to you.
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Shall I start?
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Over to you. Okay.
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As Charles said, I was sold by my parents
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into the MK-ELTRA program in 1955.
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I'm 76 years old and I was six years old at the time
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and that they essentially gave me a way.
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I had to watch while my father was paid for me.
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It was a ritual.
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It was a ritual separation between me
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and my protective parents.
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And that committed me to a life of growing up
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in the Church of Satan being raised
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in satanic ritual abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse.
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And it was clear to me even as a child in this program
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that they were after my mind, they were after my soul.
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And I'm sure you all are familiar,
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are you all familiar with MK-ELTRA?
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I would assume that there's a lot of knowledge in this group
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and that MK stands for Mein Kampf.
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And what MK-ELTRA is, is the continuation of the projects
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that were developed by the Nazis,
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starting way around the beginning of the 20th century
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and then continuing forward,
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which contained a lot of mysticism, satanic power.
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They were so into it that they even went to the church
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in Pergamon, one of the seven churches of Asia
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in Revelations.
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And in the 1930s, they took the whole thing.
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They took the whole town.
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They took the Temple of Jupiter.
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They took everything from that.
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So there's nothing there, but a hole in the ground now.
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Since the 1930s, they took it all to Berlin to study it.
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Juliet, some of the people are aware of MK-ELTRA,
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but don't know that much about it.
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But I think if you could give a very short summary,
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if that's possible, of the MK-ELTRA program,
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that would be really important from the video afterwards.
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We want to publish it and teach people.
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Yes, and something, I'm gonna do a screen share
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because something extremely important
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just happened three months ago,
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which will do a whole lot for everyone
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in terms of understanding.
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I'm trying to get to my...
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Yeah, we can see zoom on the screen, okay?
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Yes, can you see it?
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Okay, this document, this 1200 page document
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came out on the 23rd of December, 2024.
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And what this is,
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is an official National Security Archive document,
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which has been logged into the archives
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at George Washington University.
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And it is a detailed study of MK-ELTRA,
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who did it, how they did it, who they were, why they did it.
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And basically it's the intelligence agencies
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admitting to everything, absolutely everything.
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And for me, having lived 76 years
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being basically ostracized for saying these things,
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for saying that I was a victim of government mind control,
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saying that I was sent from place to place
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and forced to go through satanic rituals
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and watch other children be killed and participate in drugs
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and be forced into black masses
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and all the things that they did to Kathy and me
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and others as children, it's all in here.
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So four months ago, so I've had four months
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of sort of total exoneration of everything I ever said.
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And basically, yes, the CIA started this program.
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It was approved in 1951.
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By 1953, they were recruiting children and bringing them in.
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They decided to take girls at age six, boys at age seven
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and begin experimenting with a variety of drugs.
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They'd received a contract.
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The Dulleses during the war were in Switzerland,
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the Dulles brothers, Alan Dulles and John Foster Dulles.
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They're basically the masterminds behind this MK-ELTRA program
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and the link to the Nazis.
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And since they were in Switzerland,
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they were working closely with Eli Lilly,
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who was making the Zyklon gas for the Nazis,
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but also producing massive amounts of LSD
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for the MK-ELTRA experiments that were going on
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in Germany at the time.
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And they contracted with the CIA to provide tons
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of their remaining LSD, basically free of charge,
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because they wanted the CIA to test it
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and find out how that could be used for mind control.
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So that's how it started in 1953.
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Within three years, I was in it.
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My uncle was one of the founding members of the NSA.
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And later he was the person that organized GCHQ
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in Great Britain, lived there for many years.
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And that was my link.
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So in this, this is a great advantage to have this document
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because for years I've been trying to explain this
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without any background and basically with total denial
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by the government, but they can no longer deny it
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because here it is.
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This man was the man that came to my house
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and took me away.
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This is Agent George White.
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I remember him very clearly.
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He was a very good friend of mine.
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I remember him very clearly.
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He was a physician and also a narcotics agent.
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And he was the one that was given basically free rein
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by the CIA to run safe houses and to test anyone
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he wanted to test with any drug that he wanted.
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So thousands of Americans were put through this process,
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probably thousands of children through the years,
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probably tens of thousands of children.
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How many survived?
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It's hard to say.
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Kathy and I are the only survivors in their seventies.
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Well, I know of a few more who won't come forward,
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but I think of all the people that went in,
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very few actually came out
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or their lives were so completely destroyed.
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Here's something very relevant to your group.
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And that is that, let's see, where is it?
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As soon as Gottlieb,
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Gottlieb was in charge of the pharmaceutical areas,
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the technical services staff
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and the head of the CIA's chemical division.
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And that's Gottlieb right there, Sidney Gottlieb.
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I remember him as well.
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So he was known and he is notated
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throughout this 1200 page document
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as the CIA's chief poison maker.
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So he was the one that experimented,
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led the laboratories,
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conducted, designed and conducted the experiments,
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which had no oversight and no report back.
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So they had no obligation to report their findings
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or have any accountability whatsoever.
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They were just turned loose on children like me and Kathy.
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And his area of deep research is mRNA.
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So it was his lab that started investigating
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the use of mRNA as a biological weapon
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to alter the genetics of entire populations,
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cause extinction events, cause genocide,
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cause populations to become malleable.
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And then they planned a series of events,
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including epidemics, which,
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and this started planning these in the 50s,
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but it went into the 60s.
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They had a few failed attempts,
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but they needed to render the population pliable.
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And you're talking about how malleable our population is.
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I'm looking at my fellow Americans and thinking,
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how on earth can you be so stupid to take a vaccine
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that isn't even, it's messenger RNA.
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They can't even present scientific basis
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for why you should take something like this.
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And basically it's a poison
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that was developed in the 1950s.
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And, but people take it.
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Why do they take it?
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They take it because they've, these, this group,
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this MKLTRA group, this group of extensions
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of the Nazi mind control specialists
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have mind controlled our population.
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And it's through drugs.
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It's certainly through the drug companies.
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It's through media.
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It's through all the subliminal messaging
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that we get through electronics.
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And, and so I would say they were massively successful.
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It's also extremely interesting how they,
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they had 85 universities and hospitals that participated
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received unknown amounts of grant money from the CIA
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and conducted experiments and included places like McGill,
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University of Washington, University of California,
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all these places that are in your neighborhood.
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But in addition to that, they had a extensive network
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of over 150 safe houses.
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They call them safe houses.
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When I was a child, I knew them as annexes.
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And in my two books that I talk about this in,
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these were called annexes.
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And that's where I met Dr. Dottlieb,
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who was known as Dr. Green.
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And I knew Dr. White, who was called Dr. White.
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And then a number of characters, Nanny Blacks,
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who took care of us, who are these sexually ambiguous,
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nun like figures who took care of the children.
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You were never sure if they were men or women.
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And, and then Dr. Browns, there were Dr. Browns
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that would take us out and do field training.
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Mine was largely at Disneyland in the 1950s.
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So it's very hard for me actually,
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emotionally going through these documents
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because my whole childhood is here.
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And how they did the annexes,
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I've even found some of the annexes that I was left in.
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They would go to a university or a hospital
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and offer millions of dollars
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to build a completely new wing named after whoever it is
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they're trying to bribe into approving this thing.
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This is one example.
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This is a wing at Georgetown University.
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And every floor except the top floor
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is a completely normal patient floor.
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Top floor is a CIA annex or safe house
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where they conduct all kinds of experiments
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and have no accountability to Georgetown University
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or anyone else on the medical staff.
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So no one even knows what's going on up there.
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And that's okay because they're funding the whole thing.
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They're paying for everything.
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So the same thing with McGill University
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in Canada and Montreal where they ran
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deep patterning experiments,
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which even involved completely extracting
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a person's personality and memory.
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So they left people with no memory of their lives.
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In my case, what they did to people like myself or Kathy
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is to break us up into multiple identities.
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And with enough trauma in a specific area,
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a person, a child is forced to use
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the more primitive areas of their brain.
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So you go into instinctual,
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you go into all kinds of survival modes
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that then create a separate identity
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for that particular experience.
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And then in the future, they can trick you
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by recreating that experience or mentioning words
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or sounds or smells or something that was used
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at the time that you were sent into that state.
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And that's how they can get you to do things
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that you would never physically do.
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You automatically react and then their plan
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is that you kill somebody or you assassinate somebody
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or you shoot someone or you do some crazy thing
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that no normal person would do and you would never do.
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So the multiple identities is a very big part of this.
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And I think we're seeing a lot of that
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in our society as well.
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We're also, the soul extraction was a very big part
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of mind control in my growing up.
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And very often it involved being tied down to a wheel
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with symbols all over it.
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And these are Nazi symbols.
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I've found them now in books and in research of my own,
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spun on that wheel while people chatted
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that there is no light, there is no dark,
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there is no good, there is no evil,
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there is no white, there's no black, on and on and on.
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And when you just can't stand it anymore
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and you're gonna vomit and you'll do anything
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to make it stop, they say, there's only green.
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And at that point, you're supposed to release your soul
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to them, your soul is green.
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So I never did that, but I can assure you
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that the green agenda, the green,
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it has nothing to do with ecology anymore
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than climate change has any real basis in climate.
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This was their attempt to create a mind controlled,
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soulless group of individuals that they could control.
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And I think to a large extent, they've done that.
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So I'm as interested to hear what you all think
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and I must say, Kathy is I think further in her process
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than I am and in terms of healing
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and helping other people heal.
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She's achieved a level of peace that I haven't.
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So I'll stop there, Alec.
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So Julia, do you wanna hit Kathy to take over now?
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Sure, yes.
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Julia, that was just absolutely profoundly,
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beautifully stated.
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You're just constantly glowing
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with so much comprehensive information.
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I really appreciate what you're doing
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and you're absolutely amazing.
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I am so fortunate to have survived my MKUltra ordeal
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as has Julia, so few have.
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I'm a survivor of CIA MKUltra mind control.
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I was used on a White House Pentagon level.
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I was deep in the Washington DC swamp among perpetrators
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who steal elections and use drug and human trafficking
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to fund their globalist slave society agenda
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and who are using mind control
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on the global population to usher it in.
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The formula for mind control is the same,
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whether it's of an individual, a nation or the world,
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a classroom, a military, whatever they want to target
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MKUltra mind control for the formula is exactly the same
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and trauma is the basis of it.
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It had been found through Hitler-Himmler research
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that there's no trauma more horrific on the human mind
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than sexual abuse of a child prior to age five
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while their brain is still forming.
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This sexual abuse is absolutely horrific
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as is satanic ritual abuse or blood trauma.
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That's one of the most horrific traumas
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on the human mind also.
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So these traumas are very much a part
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of MKUltra mind control.
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This formula for mind control came into the United States
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through Project Paperclip in the wake of World War II.
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When we imported the Nazi emphasia scientists into the US
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with them came the formula for mind control.
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These Nazi emphasia scientists included the NASA aspect
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that went into play and also Walt Disney was a part of it.
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And Walt Disney was associated with Werner von Braun
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of NASA, but it starts to raise a question.
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What does Disney have to do with NASA?
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And it's mind control.
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We can look at DARPA, common theme,
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moving through both.
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But the formula for mind control also includes sleep,
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food and water deprivation.
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Because if our brains are starved of nutrients
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we're more suggestible and easily led.
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Ultimately, this is a slave society mind control agenda
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to make people compliant, to allow for a handful
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of puppet masters to lead them into their
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globalist slave society agenda.
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I know from my experience in MTA Ultra Mind Control
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that without free thought, there's no free will.
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With no free will, there's no soul expression.
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With no soul expression, we lose our moral compass.
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We lose our discernment of truths.
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We lose our ability to have compassion for each other.
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We lose our ability to gather the strength
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of the human spirit and that infinite power of love
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that we're born with to be able to live our own life's
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purpose and why we're really even here.
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So ultimately, the mind control agenda becomes
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a spiritual warfare in that regard because it squashes
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our ability to have that kind of soul expression
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and strength of purpose and meaning to be able
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to take a stand against this globalist agenda
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and to take a stand for our children to effectively
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protect them from this pedophile agenda
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that's being pushed so hard globally.
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The pedophile agenda is a mind control agenda
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and I know it from my own personal experience.
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Monarch is a genetic mind control aspect of MK Ultra.
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Monarch targets families and Juliet, you just described
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so beautifully how that applied to you.
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And in my case, I was born into a multi-generational
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in-sus-based family.
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My father had been sexually abused
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and ritually abused as a child.
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My mother had been sexually abused and was trafficked
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to my grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge.
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I was being sexually abused from infancy
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because they didn't, my parents didn't know any better.
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And this multi-generational aspect is because it was found
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in the Hitler-Himmler research that after three generations,
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any abuse-based, knowledge-based belief system
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becomes autogenic in the brain, it's passed down.
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Obviously your intelligence was passed down.
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And in my case, it was the complacency
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from the generations of sexual abuse.
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So I would have been more compliant just the way I was
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if I hadn't been abused, but I was sexually abused.
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My father's sexual abuse began in infancy.
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Before I could think to know what he was doing was wrong,
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but my brain knew it was wrong.
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And we have this defensive mechanism in our brain
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that we need to be aware of.
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And that's how our brains respond to trauma.
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And even though I didn't know what my father was doing
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was wrong, my brain knew I was enduring the pain
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and suffocation of his abuse.
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So it took memory of that traumatic event
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and buried it deep into the subconscious,
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repressed that memory, actually physically shut down
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neuron pathways around that trauma
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and buried it in my subconscious
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so the rest of my mind could develop and function normally.
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This is a mind saying defense to trauma,
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too horrible to comprehend.
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When we understand this is how our brains respond to trauma,
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we know why this pedophile agenda is being pushed so hard
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because it targets children at such an early age
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while their brain is still forming
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that this compartmentalization becomes
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a very heightened suggestibility
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and creates compliance.
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And that's ultimately what the point
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of all this mind control is about.
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My father's sexual abuse extended
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into child pornography of me.
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And my brain shut down neuron pathways around that event,
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repressed it into my subconscious
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so the rest of my mind could develop normally.
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Then my father's sexual abuse
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and the child pornography extended into trafficking.
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Grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge,
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so I was being trafficked as a very young toddler
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and used in blackmail operations
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that were already coming into play
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and the neuron pathways in my brain shut down around that
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and buried it deep into my subconscious.
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So all these neuron pathways are shutting down.
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As those neuron pathways are shutting down,
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more and more free thought capacities being lost,
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more conscious awareness and ability
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0:30:36
to even think anything through.
587
0:30:36
0:30:38
Additionally, these compartmentalizations
588
0:30:38
0:30:40
have no inner communication between them.
589
0:30:40
0:30:43
So the sexual abuse that happened over here
590
0:30:44
0:30:48
has no knowledge of the sexual abuse happening over here,
591
0:30:48
0:30:51
which can create a heightened endurance
592
0:30:51
0:30:54
because if there's no ability to understand
593
0:30:54
0:30:57
that you've already been put through so much,
594
0:30:57
0:31:00
then you're fresh over here when it's happening over here.
595
0:31:00
0:31:03
The part of me that dealt with my father's sexual abuse
596
0:31:03
0:31:07
would trigger open when he came into sexually abuse me again.
597
0:31:07
0:31:09
And again, as needed,
598
0:31:09
0:31:13
that triggering is what would open that up to happen again.
599
0:31:13
0:31:17
And then also if he was using me in child pornography,
600
0:31:17
0:31:18
I'd see the camera,
601
0:31:18
0:31:20
the camera would trigger that part of me into it.
602
0:31:20
0:31:23
If I was at the Blue Masonic Lodge
603
0:31:23
0:31:28
among these politicians and local law enforcement
604
0:31:28
0:31:29
that hung out there,
605
0:31:29
0:31:32
then that part would trigger open to deal with it again
606
0:31:32
0:31:36
and again as needed with no inner communication in between.
607
0:31:36
0:31:38
With no inner communication
608
0:31:38
0:31:40
in between the compartmentalized memory,
609
0:31:40
0:31:43
there's no continuity of time.
610
0:31:43
0:31:46
There's no ability to have a concept of time.
611
0:31:46
0:31:50
There's no ability to have a continuity of thought
612
0:31:50
0:31:55
to even think to dread something or to think to argue it
613
0:31:57
0:31:58
or anything else,
614
0:31:58
0:32:01
you only can do exactly what you're in
615
0:32:01
0:32:04
that particular moment to do.
616
0:32:04
0:32:07
My father was caught sending child pornography
617
0:32:07
0:32:11
of me through the US mails like back in 1960
618
0:32:11
0:32:14
when Project Paperclip had brought in
619
0:32:14
0:32:18
the Nazi and fascist scientists that by 1947,
620
0:32:18
0:32:21
the National Security Act came into play in 1947,
621
0:32:21
0:32:26
the CIA came into being to carry out this globalist agenda
622
0:32:27
0:32:29
and the National Security Act was used as a blanket
623
0:32:29
0:32:31
to cover it up.
624
0:32:31
0:32:33
Secrecy was their key,
625
0:32:33
0:32:35
that's why they use secret societies
626
0:32:35
0:32:38
like my grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge.
627
0:32:38
0:32:43
So when my father was caught sending child pornography
628
0:32:43
0:32:46
of me through the US mails in the early 1960s,
629
0:32:46
0:32:51
the local politician that I had been prostituted to
630
0:32:51
0:32:53
as a little bitty toddler approached my father
631
0:32:53
0:32:57
and told him that he could receive immunity for prosecution
632
0:32:57
0:32:59
if he would agree to sell me into the CIA's
633
0:32:59
0:33:02
MK Ultraman control project.
634
0:33:02
0:33:05
My father agreed and sold me in.
635
0:33:05
0:33:09
And this shows how long the justice system
636
0:33:09
0:33:13
has been corrupted to allow for the proliferation
637
0:33:13
0:33:18
of pedophilia because it is a mind control agenda
638
0:33:18
0:33:23
necessary for fulfilling this new world order agenda.
639
0:33:23
0:33:26
A.L.F. Hitler was the first to call it new world order
640
0:33:26
0:33:30
and we hear these self-appointed, self-anointed global leaders
641
0:33:30
0:33:34
that meet in secret and have control over nations
642
0:33:34
0:33:39
and tell us how we're gonna be living our lives.
643
0:33:40
0:33:45
They had that information on mind control too.
644
0:33:45
0:33:48
So there's these secret societies are key
645
0:33:48
0:33:51
to keeping the information secret
646
0:33:51
0:33:56
because knowledge is our defense against mind control.
647
0:33:56
0:33:58
And it certainly is a reason why I speak out.
648
0:33:58
0:34:02
I know is a big part of why Juliet speaks out,
649
0:34:02
0:34:05
because we need to keep, get this information out there
650
0:34:05
0:34:08
because it is our defense against mind control.
651
0:34:08
0:34:10
When we understand what's happening,
652
0:34:10
0:34:14
then we know to safeguard our minds against trauma.
653
0:34:14
0:34:19
And it gives us understanding into why we experience
654
0:34:19
0:34:22
trauma after trauma after trauma today.
655
0:34:22
0:34:25
It's intended to heighten the suggestibility
656
0:34:25
0:34:29
of the global population.
657
0:34:29
0:34:31
When my father agreed to sell me into the project,
658
0:34:31
0:34:35
he was immediately flown to Boston, Massachusetts,
659
0:34:35
0:34:39
where he was trained by Cardinal Law
660
0:34:39
0:34:40
on how to raise me in the project.
661
0:34:40
0:34:42
Cardinal Law was named as a head
662
0:34:42
0:34:46
of the infamous Catholic child abuse scandal
663
0:34:46
0:34:49
that covered up pedophilia within the Catholic church
664
0:34:49
0:34:52
and that allowed for the pedophile priest
665
0:34:52
0:34:56
to just be moved from one church to the other.
666
0:34:56
0:34:58
And my father was taught then
667
0:35:00
0:35:02
that he was to take me to my local church,
668
0:35:02
0:35:05
which was involved with the CIA.
669
0:35:06
0:35:08
And he was a very important person
670
0:35:08
0:35:12
for creating MK Ultra Mind Control slaves like myself.
671
0:35:12
0:35:17
And I was subjected to significant satanic occult ritual
672
0:35:19
0:35:22
within the church from that point on.
673
0:35:22
0:35:27
So by the time I was six years old,
674
0:35:27
0:35:29
I was losing my free thought completely
675
0:35:29
0:35:31
to the MK Ultra Mind Control.
676
0:35:31
0:35:34
I was shot down from the occult trauma.
677
0:35:34
0:35:39
And then this local politician
678
0:35:39
0:35:42
that gave my father immunity from prosecution
679
0:35:42
0:35:44
was Gerald Ford.
681
0:35:47
0:35:49
of the United States.
682
0:35:49
0:35:52
As his political career escalated,
683
0:35:52
0:35:55
so too did my victimization in MK Ultra Mind Control
684
0:35:55
0:36:00
until I was used on a White House Pentagon level.
685
0:36:00
0:36:03
And to prepare me for that,
686
0:36:03
0:36:08
I was taken to places like that was the Epstein Island
687
0:36:08
0:36:11
of its time, Mackinac Island, Michigan,
688
0:36:11
0:36:16
where MK Ultra was being discussed among global leaders.
689
0:36:16
0:36:21
And these global leaders don't trust each other either.
690
0:36:21
0:36:24
So they hold each other by the blackmail, so to speak.
691
0:36:24
0:36:29
These blackmail videos have been around my whole life.
692
0:36:29
0:36:32
And we hear of them now with Epstein Island
693
0:36:32
0:36:34
and the Diddy tapes and all,
694
0:36:34
0:36:38
but these blackmail videos are used because again,
695
0:36:38
0:36:40
they don't trust each other either.
696
0:36:40
0:36:45
So I was prostituted to leaders like Pierre Trudeau,
697
0:36:46
0:36:51
who is an expert in MK Ultra Mind Control from Canada,
698
0:36:51
0:36:56
that was an expert on it in individuals and of nations.
699
0:36:56
0:37:01
So this experience that I had then was one
700
0:37:02
0:37:07
that began preparing me for how I would be used
701
0:37:07
0:37:08
in later years.
702
0:37:08
0:37:12
I was taken to various NASA, military,
703
0:37:12
0:37:14
and DARPA installations.
704
0:37:14
0:37:18
I was also taken to the underground at Disney World
705
0:37:18
0:37:20
in Florida and programmed there.
706
0:37:20
0:37:24
Those are MK Ultra Mind Control programming epicenters.
707
0:37:24
0:37:27
Not only was Walt Disney actively involved
708
0:37:27
0:37:32
in subliminally manipulating the minds of the masses
709
0:37:32
0:37:34
into accepting pedophilia.
710
0:37:34
0:37:37
When we look at the Disney movies,
711
0:37:37
0:37:39
way back from their onset,
712
0:37:39
0:37:42
they were promoting pedophilia subliminally.
713
0:37:42
0:37:44
They were promoting,
714
0:37:44
0:37:47
they were using trauma and separating families throughout.
715
0:37:47
0:37:51
So that was going on on that level.
716
0:37:51
0:37:54
On that level, it has infiltrated subliminally
717
0:37:54
0:37:57
into society for generations now.
718
0:37:57
0:38:02
They also were using significant DARPA related
719
0:38:02
0:38:04
MK Ultra Mind Control techniques
720
0:38:04
0:38:06
in the underworld of Disney World,
721
0:38:06
0:38:09
where even the military is taken
722
0:38:09
0:38:13
for sophisticated MK Ultra Mind Control programming.
723
0:38:13
0:38:18
So this kind of programming would take,
724
0:38:18
0:38:22
like when my father would come in to sexually abuse me again,
725
0:38:22
0:38:24
they would take that compartmentalized memory spot
726
0:38:24
0:38:29
and put a word or a hand signal or a harmonic tone
727
0:38:29
0:38:32
to open those neuron pathways.
728
0:38:32
0:38:36
The harmonics can vibrate the neuron pathways of the brain
729
0:38:36
0:38:41
so that technological aspect was coming into play.
730
0:38:41
0:38:44
Very fortunately for me,
731
0:38:44
0:38:49
the experiences I had in MK Ultra Mind Control,
732
0:38:49
0:38:53
the various operations that I was used in
733
0:38:54
0:38:56
are detailed in my testimony,
734
0:38:56
0:38:59
my 1995 testimony for Congress,
735
0:38:59
0:39:01
Transformation of America.
736
0:39:01
0:39:04
It was censored under national security.
737
0:39:04
0:39:05
But when you look through it,
738
0:39:05
0:39:08
you will see that that testimony back then
739
0:39:08
0:39:11
describes much of what's happening today,
740
0:39:11
0:39:15
right down to the vaccines that was planned.
741
0:39:15
0:39:17
When Mind Control, masked as a virus,
742
0:39:17
0:39:22
was unleashed on the global population in 2020,
743
0:39:22
0:39:24
I knew because I had the knowledge
744
0:39:24
0:39:26
as our defense against Mind Control,
745
0:39:26
0:39:31
not to cooperate with the repetitive media narrative,
746
0:39:32
0:39:35
repetitions, the most basic form of Mind Control.
747
0:39:35
0:39:37
That's what the media does to us.
748
0:39:37
0:39:39
And the media was telling us,
749
0:39:39
0:39:44
mask up, get the injection, social distance,
750
0:39:44
0:39:47
shelter at home, repetitive over and over again,
751
0:39:47
0:39:50
tell people had no choice but to comply
752
0:39:50
0:39:54
unless they were aware of that kind of manipulation.
753
0:39:54
0:39:55
And again, that's the knowledge
754
0:39:55
0:39:58
that it's our defense against Mind Control.
755
0:39:58
0:40:00
I certainly wouldn't cooperate with the masks.
756
0:40:00
0:40:04
Masks are used in MK Ultra Mind Control.
757
0:40:04
0:40:05
Thank Michael Jackson.
758
0:40:05
0:40:08
Michael Jackson wore the mask
759
0:40:08
0:40:12
and they're used because they depersonalize
760
0:40:12
0:40:15
and they also muffle voices,
761
0:40:15
0:40:19
but above all, they inhibit oxygen necessary to the brain
762
0:40:19
0:40:23
for critical analysis, free thought.
763
0:40:23
0:40:26
Muffling voices from the social distancing,
764
0:40:26
0:40:29
six feet away, kept people from talking with each other.
765
0:40:29
0:40:34
And I could see that the whole world was getting
766
0:40:35
0:40:40
a taste of what MK Ultra Mind Control is all about.
767
0:40:40
0:40:43
The injection is part of a depopulation agenda.
768
0:40:43
0:40:47
It's detailed in my 1995 testimony.
769
0:40:47
0:40:51
And we need to be aware of that aspect.
770
0:40:51
0:40:53
I'm so happy to see that this group
771
0:40:53
0:40:57
is absolutely against the vaccines
772
0:40:57
0:41:01
because they are intended to depopulate.
773
0:41:01
0:41:05
And very fortunately for me,
774
0:41:05
0:41:07
an intelligence insider who has worked
775
0:41:07
0:41:11
in the highest levels of intelligence mind sciences
776
0:41:11
0:41:16
in Washington, DC, saw how Mind Control was being used
777
0:41:19
0:41:23
to erode our constitutional values
778
0:41:23
0:41:26
of freedom and justice for all.
779
0:41:26
0:41:30
He was working to preserve the sanctity of free thought
780
0:41:30
0:41:34
and everything that he was working for was being violated.
781
0:41:34
0:41:38
Mark's level of intelligence was extremely high
782
0:41:38
0:41:43
where he could wear any hat, whether it was CIA, NSA,
783
0:41:43
0:41:47
Secret Service, FBI, whatever he needed to be
784
0:41:47
0:41:52
is what he wore to be in key places at key times.
785
0:41:56
0:42:00
He saw how the pedophile agenda was being used
786
0:42:00
0:42:04
in blackmail ops to compromise any politicians
787
0:42:04
0:42:07
or people in influence, peoples in positions
788
0:42:07
0:42:12
of influence and power to force them into complying
789
0:42:14
0:42:16
with this globalist agenda.
790
0:42:16
0:42:21
He was especially appalled to see little children
791
0:42:21
0:42:24
being taken in and out of the White House
792
0:42:24
0:42:29
for these pedophile blackmail purposes.
793
0:42:29
0:42:33
And that's when he decided that he was gonna do something
794
0:42:33
0:42:36
about it, Mark was bound by laws of sedition
795
0:42:36
0:42:38
and he couldn't just speak about it,
796
0:42:38
0:42:40
but he could take action.
797
0:42:40
0:42:43
And that was when he lifted my daughter and me
798
0:42:43
0:42:46
right out of the Washington, DC human trafficking swamp
799
0:42:46
0:42:51
all the way back in 1988 and handed me keys to my own mind
800
0:42:53
0:42:57
so that I could heal from 30 years
801
0:42:57
0:43:01
of torturous, robotic MK ultra mind control
802
0:43:01
0:43:05
where I didn't even have a capacity to think for myself anymore
803
0:43:05
0:43:10
or speak for myself or even protect my own daughter,
804
0:43:12
0:43:16
which is an absolute outrage.
805
0:43:16
0:43:19
Instead that was used as the most extreme trauma.
806
0:43:20
0:43:22
I would do anything to keep her from being hurt.
807
0:43:22
0:43:26
And I found out that she had been told the same thing
808
0:43:27
0:43:29
that if she would take the abuse, I would be spared.
809
0:43:29
0:43:32
And so that love was used against us,
810
0:43:32
0:43:35
much the way that it was used against the global population
811
0:43:35
0:43:39
with mind control master's of virus
812
0:43:39
0:43:41
because it tore families apart
813
0:43:41
0:43:46
between those who knew that who were thinking free
814
0:43:47
0:43:50
and those who were buying into the media narrative.
815
0:43:50
0:43:52
Love overcomes all.
816
0:43:52
0:43:55
And when we understand mind control,
817
0:43:55
0:43:58
we've realized that what has happened,
818
0:43:58
0:44:03
it will help to reunite families and let them know too
819
0:44:03
0:44:05
that we are not responsible
820
0:44:05
0:44:07
for what we do under mind control.
821
0:44:07
0:44:10
Our abusers are responsible for that.
822
0:44:10
0:44:14
They need to be held accountable for their actions.
823
0:44:14
0:44:18
Mark Phillips had found that pertinent information,
824
0:44:18
0:44:23
our birthright information on our mind brain function
825
0:44:23
0:44:27
had been suppressed under national security.
826
0:44:27
0:44:31
It was buried so that after three generations,
827
0:44:31
0:44:34
people would forget that they have all the power.
828
0:44:34
0:44:36
They were kept looking outside themselves
829
0:44:36
0:44:39
to big government, big pharma, big tech,
830
0:44:39
0:44:41
big cult to cult religion,
831
0:44:41
0:44:44
rather than realizing that we have been blessed
832
0:44:44
0:44:47
with the most resilient body, mind and spirit.
833
0:44:47
0:44:51
We have so much healing capacity within ourselves
834
0:44:51
0:44:55
that these perpetrators had buried this information
835
0:44:55
0:44:57
under national security.
836
0:44:57
0:44:59
They kept it from the medical community.
837
0:44:59
0:45:02
They kept it from the mental health community.
838
0:45:02
0:45:05
They kept it from society as a whole,
839
0:45:05
0:45:07
but it's our birthright information.
840
0:45:07
0:45:11
So Mark didn't deprogram me.
841
0:45:11
0:45:15
He reminded me that it was within me to heal myself.
842
0:45:15
0:45:18
And he handed me those keys.
843
0:45:18
0:45:21
And those keys are in PTSD, time to heal.
844
0:45:21
0:45:25
They're posted on my website at trans-formation.com.
845
0:45:25
0:45:27
So everyone can apply this,
846
0:45:27
0:45:30
these easy to self-apply techniques to themselves,
847
0:45:30
0:45:34
because it just reminds us that we have all the power.
848
0:45:34
0:45:37
These perpetrators only have as much power
849
0:45:37
0:45:39
as we give them or let them steal.
850
0:45:39
0:45:40
We have it all.
851
0:45:40
0:45:42
And we just need to remember.
852
0:45:42
0:45:44
And remember, what else we remember,
853
0:45:44
0:45:47
who we are and why we're here.
854
0:45:47
0:45:50
We can live the love we are as game over.
855
0:45:50
0:45:53
Now they feed off of such a low vibration.
856
0:45:53
0:45:56
That's why they wanna keep us at a low vibration.
857
0:45:56
0:45:59
They're scared of the strength of the human spirit.
858
0:45:59
0:46:01
They're scared that we're gonna remember
859
0:46:01
0:46:03
that we have all that power within us
860
0:46:03
0:46:06
and start living the love we are.
861
0:46:06
0:46:08
That's such a high vibration.
862
0:46:08
0:46:09
They can't affect it.
863
0:46:09
0:46:13
The only thing they can do is affect our ability
864
0:46:13
0:46:18
to think, to utilize it through mind control.
865
0:46:18
0:46:22
That is ultimately what their purpose and their agenda is.
866
0:46:22
0:46:25
And when we remember that we have all the power,
867
0:46:25
0:46:29
we can apply the easy to apply healing methods
868
0:46:29
0:46:30
and PTSD time to heal.
869
0:46:30
0:46:35
And that is simple things that Mark taught me,
870
0:46:35
0:46:38
like picking up a pen and writing out memory,
871
0:46:38
0:46:41
writing out trauma, writing out fear,
872
0:46:41
0:46:45
write out whatever negativity is immobilizing us.
873
0:46:45
0:46:49
The very act of moving a pen activates the logic,
874
0:46:49
0:46:52
critical analysis part of the brain
875
0:46:52
0:46:56
and information is shifted from those repressed,
876
0:46:56
0:46:59
emotionally incomprehensible traumas.
877
0:46:59
0:47:04
It opens that up and brings it over to the logic part
878
0:47:04
0:47:07
of the brain where it's written out, consciously seen,
879
0:47:07
0:47:10
and all of a sudden healing is happening,
880
0:47:10
0:47:13
psychiatrically, psychologically, emotionally,
881
0:47:13
0:47:15
spiritually, it's all happening
882
0:47:15
0:47:17
with this one little simple brain hack
883
0:47:17
0:47:19
of picking up a pen and paper.
884
0:47:19
0:47:22
Typing does not do the same thing,
885
0:47:23
0:47:27
especially the twiddling thumbs on a cell phone,
886
0:47:27
0:47:28
does not do the same thing.
887
0:47:28
0:47:31
It's very important to pick up that pen and paper
888
0:47:31
0:47:34
and begin writing.
889
0:47:34
0:47:37
If we get writing by hand back in the school systems,
890
0:47:37
0:47:40
we can stop the indoctrination of our children
891
0:47:40
0:47:44
and that would be a great thing for all of us.
892
0:47:44
0:47:46
Everybody everywhere can use this
893
0:47:46
0:47:50
to overcome their fear and trauma, just simply write it out.
894
0:47:50
0:47:55
And I suggest you use a solution
895
0:47:56
0:47:58
because when you add a solution,
896
0:47:58
0:48:01
you're forcing your brain to fire in new ways.
897
0:48:01
0:48:04
You're lifting up out of that darkness,
898
0:48:04
0:48:06
opening more neuron pathways,
899
0:48:06
0:48:08
you're able to see a clear path forward
900
0:48:08
0:48:13
and that inspires an ability to take action.
901
0:48:13
0:48:18
Again, the MK Ultra Mind Control shuts down neuron pathways
902
0:48:19
0:48:22
and we need to open those neuron pathways
903
0:48:22
0:48:24
and this is a simple way to do it.
904
0:48:24
0:48:27
As we do that, we need to shut off our devices,
905
0:48:27
0:48:30
get outside, breathe in the air,
906
0:48:30
0:48:34
feel the sun on our skin, feel the breeze,
907
0:48:34
0:48:37
consciously feel all that reconnect with the earth,
908
0:48:37
0:48:41
take your shoes off, feel the earth beneath your feet.
909
0:48:41
0:48:44
These are all just simple little things that we all can do
910
0:48:44
0:48:49
to reclaim our free thought, free will, soul expression
911
0:48:50
0:48:53
and be able to preserve our humanity
912
0:48:53
0:48:56
because this whole spiritual aspect
913
0:48:56
0:48:58
is ultimately their agenda.
914
0:48:58
0:49:00
When we reclaim it, it's game over.
915
0:49:00
0:49:05
We win, they lose and we have so many abilities
916
0:49:05
0:49:10
to be exploring from there to remember our capacity
917
0:49:10
0:49:15
for healing physically, mentally, psychologically,
918
0:49:15
0:49:19
psychiatrically, spiritually, all those levels at once.
919
0:49:19
0:49:23
It's a celebration that we have been blessed
920
0:49:23
0:49:25
with the victory all along.
921
0:49:26
0:49:31
Wow, Cathy, beautifully expressed, beautifully put.
922
0:49:32
0:49:34
Now, before Stephen starts, Daria,
923
0:49:34
0:49:36
I would like to invite you to say
924
0:49:36
0:49:39
whatever you feel like saying because Juliet
925
0:49:39
0:49:42
and Cathy are with us because you persisted with us
926
0:49:42
0:49:44
to say we've got to listen to their story.
927
0:49:44
0:49:46
So well done on your persistence
928
0:49:46
0:49:48
and being a pain in the ass.
929
0:49:48
0:49:53
So please, what would you like to say before Stephen?
930
0:49:54
0:49:57
Okay, well, again, this is a thank you so much again
931
0:49:57
0:49:59
for coming on Cathy and Juliet.
932
0:49:59
0:50:01
Thank you so much, Stephen and Charles
933
0:50:01
0:50:03
for organizing and coordinating this
934
0:50:03
0:50:06
because this has been a big piece
935
0:50:06
0:50:09
of what we've been talking about with the craziness
936
0:50:09
0:50:14
that started with COVID, but a lot of us were speaking out
937
0:50:14
0:50:17
about different things in society that were problematic,
938
0:50:17
0:50:20
the wokeness in the schools and all this
939
0:50:21
0:50:26
and to crystallize it down into this base mechanism,
940
0:50:26
0:50:30
this operational mechanism of psychological warfare
941
0:50:30
0:50:35
that has been experienced by our panelists here
942
0:50:35
0:50:38
and our guests and going all the way back to the 50s.
943
0:50:38
0:50:42
I mean, this really was hatched out of World War II, I think,
944
0:50:42
0:50:44
but it explains a lot.
945
0:50:44
0:50:47
It explains a lot, a big part of the sexual revolution.
946
0:50:47
0:50:51
It explains the compromise of not only the hierarchy
947
0:50:51
0:50:53
in the Catholic Church in Rome,
948
0:50:53
0:50:57
and that's where I posted the link to Operation Gladio,
949
0:50:57
0:51:02
but everything that's happened that has compromised morality,
950
0:51:03
0:51:06
broken up family, all of it is coming from the same place.
951
0:51:06
0:51:09
And this is the actual operational mechanism
952
0:51:09
0:51:13
that allowed it to diffuse so extensively
953
0:51:13
0:51:15
through societies all over the world.
954
0:51:15
0:51:17
And that's why I wanted to,
955
0:51:17
0:51:21
when we have two eyewitnesses that live through it
956
0:51:21
0:51:25
and are still got all their marbles
957
0:51:25
0:51:27
and can tell us the story and it's validated
958
0:51:27
0:51:32
in the CIA report, you know, this is far beyond.
959
0:51:32
0:51:35
And there's something very special and blessed
960
0:51:35
0:51:38
that Juliet and Kathy were able to live through all that
961
0:51:38
0:51:42
and still be able to speak about it
962
0:51:42
0:51:45
and take action to protect others
963
0:51:46
0:51:50
and inform others from falling into the same trap.
964
0:51:50
0:51:52
And it was funny because when I started returning back
965
0:51:52
0:51:55
to faith four years ago now, yeah,
966
0:51:57
0:51:59
one of the things I told the priest when I first met him
967
0:51:59
0:52:02
was there are people walking around on this planet
968
0:52:02
0:52:04
that I don't think have souls.
969
0:52:04
0:52:06
And it's terrifying right now to sit here
970
0:52:06
0:52:09
and hear Kathy mention that,
971
0:52:09
0:52:12
and Juliet mentioned that they try to steal your soul.
972
0:52:12
0:52:15
So what we've subjectively encountered,
973
0:52:15
0:52:17
I mean, some people have that little cartoon meme
974
0:52:17
0:52:21
of the NPC, the non-player gray faced character.
975
0:52:21
0:52:24
People have that happen, their minds are clouded,
976
0:52:24
0:52:26
their conscience is blunted.
977
0:52:26
0:52:30
And it is this tampering with the neuroplasticity
978
0:52:30
0:52:32
of a developing brain in childhood
979
0:52:32
0:52:34
that it makes us so criminal.
980
0:52:34
0:52:37
It still can be overcome and, you know,
981
0:52:37
0:52:41
love, care, compassion and protection.
982
0:52:41
0:52:45
People have to learn how to become safe and be safe
983
0:52:45
0:52:48
and be around people that help them be safe
984
0:52:48
0:52:49
so they can fight through this.
985
0:52:49
0:52:52
And it's just incredible.
986
0:52:52
0:52:53
And we've all probably,
987
0:52:53
0:52:57
if we really examined our memories and our conscience,
988
0:52:57
0:52:59
we could probably find a place where we got tripped up
989
0:52:59
0:53:00
by some of this nonsense.
990
0:53:00
0:53:02
And I grew up during the 70s.
991
0:53:02
0:53:03
I was in high school in the 70s
992
0:53:03
0:53:07
and junior high in the early 70s
993
0:53:07
0:53:09
and then graduated high school in 78.
994
0:53:09
0:53:13
So all of this decadence was just everywhere
995
0:53:13
0:53:14
and it was so prevalent.
996
0:53:14
0:53:16
And I grew up outside of Chicago.
997
0:53:16
0:53:21
So we also had the influence of the two CIA headquarters,
998
0:53:21
0:53:24
the one in Gary, Indiana and the one in Chicago.
999
0:53:24
0:53:26
So it was heavily infiltrated.
1000
0:53:26
0:53:29
So if you wanna know why some places rotten to the core,
1001
0:53:29
0:53:31
this is a big piece of it.
1002
0:53:31
0:53:34
So we've just added a gigantic piece to the puzzle
1003
0:53:34
0:53:35
that connects a lot of dots
1004
0:53:35
0:53:38
that we've all been talking about for a long time.
1005
0:53:38
0:53:39
Thank you so much.
1006
0:53:39
0:53:40
God bless you both.
1007
0:53:41
0:53:42
Well said, Daria.
1008
0:53:42
0:53:44
Well said.
1009
0:53:44
0:53:46
All right, Stephen, the next 15 minutes is yours
1010
0:53:46
0:53:48
and then we've got a lot of hands up.
1011
0:53:48
0:53:51
Yeah, so I'll try my best.
1012
0:53:51
0:53:52
It's hard to follow that,
1013
0:53:52
0:53:55
but Daria of course is a neurosurgeon.
1014
0:53:55
0:53:59
So maybe she had a particular interest in it.
1015
0:53:59
0:54:01
And so did I, Daria.
1016
0:54:01
0:54:03
You remember four years ago now,
1017
0:54:03
0:54:06
I was talking about they were deliberately
1018
0:54:06
0:54:08
raping the souls of human beings
1019
0:54:08
0:54:10
and people were telling me off for saying that.
1020
0:54:10
0:54:14
And prior to that, psychological torture.
1021
0:54:14
0:54:19
And so we had the Canadian guy, expert,
1022
0:54:19
0:54:23
well, he knows about mind control and what was his name?
1023
0:54:23
0:54:24
Speak to us.
1024
0:54:26
0:54:27
And I remember saying then
1025
0:54:27
0:54:30
that we need to get to the bottom of this mind control,
1026
0:54:30
0:54:34
but I never thought that we would have two victims
1027
0:54:34
0:54:38
of mind control from the 50s talking to us.
1028
0:54:39
0:54:42
And I also, even if we had you speaking to us, Kathy
1029
0:54:42
0:54:45
and Juliet, I didn't for one minute think
1030
0:54:45
0:54:50
that they would release that 1200 page document
1031
0:54:50
0:54:55
on the 23rd of December, 19, sorry, 2024.
1032
0:54:55
0:55:00
So on the best day to bury bad news,
1033
0:55:00
0:55:03
I can't remember who actually came up with that phrase
1034
0:55:03
0:55:07
on 9-11, but you cannot think of a better day
1035
0:55:07
0:55:11
than the 23rd of September last year
1036
0:55:11
0:55:14
or any year to bury bad news.
1037
0:55:14
0:55:17
Why did they want to get that document out?
1038
0:55:17
0:55:18
It's a gift to you, isn't it?
1039
0:55:18
0:55:22
And I just wonder, have you had numerous requests
1040
0:55:22
0:55:23
for interviews?
1041
0:55:23
0:55:24
I suspect not.
1042
0:55:24
0:55:26
And why do you think that is?
1043
0:55:27
0:55:31
Well, I think it's, people just haven't discovered it yet.
1044
0:55:31
0:55:34
I've been waiting for Jerome Corsi to come across it
1045
0:55:34
0:55:36
and contact me.
1046
0:55:36
0:55:40
I'm surprised he hasn't, I don't see him on the screen.
1047
0:55:40
0:55:42
He's on the call, yeah.
1048
0:55:42
0:55:46
Yes, because I would love to talk to him about that.
1049
0:55:46
0:55:49
But people just haven't- This is a big story of all,
1050
0:55:49
0:55:51
in my opinion, Juliet, do you think that?
1051
0:55:51
0:55:56
Yes, and it's essential, they had to put that out
1052
0:55:56
0:55:58
before other documents could come out.
1053
0:55:58
0:56:01
And it had to come out before anything about the truth
1054
0:56:01
0:56:03
about the Epstein list could come out.
1055
0:56:03
0:56:05
It had to come out before you could really get
1056
0:56:05
0:56:09
into the P Diddy stuff and what's going on in California,
1057
0:56:09
0:56:12
which New California is deep into.
1058
0:56:14
0:56:16
And also the JFK files.
1059
0:56:16
0:56:19
You can't explain the JFK assassination
1060
0:56:19
0:56:23
until you understand what was going on with MK Ultra.
1061
0:56:23
0:56:25
This is the foundation of all of that.
1062
0:56:25
0:56:29
And the basis of this is Mein Kampf.
1063
0:56:29
0:56:32
And do you know that you cannot get a copy of Mein Kampf
1064
0:56:32
0:56:34
in German or English now?
1065
0:56:34
0:56:36
Yes, I've heard that.
1066
0:56:36
0:56:41
And the translation of it was done by, into English,
1067
0:56:41
0:56:44
was done in the 1930s by Alan Cranston,
1068
0:56:44
0:56:48
who became a Senator and was later my handler in MK Ultra.
1069
0:56:48
0:56:50
He translated it into English.
1070
0:56:50
0:56:54
He translated it so badly that Hitler sued him
1071
0:56:54
0:56:57
in an American court and won the case.
1072
0:56:57
0:57:00
However, his translation is all that we can get.
1073
0:57:00
0:57:03
And his translation is 70,000 words.
1074
0:57:03
0:57:08
The book itself was 300,000 words and we can't get it.
1075
0:57:08
0:57:12
And except that when I was a little child,
1076
0:57:13
0:57:16
Alan Cranston and other California politicians
1077
0:57:16
0:57:20
and important people would take groups of small children.
1078
0:57:20
0:57:23
I was about seven or eight at the time to Mexico,
1079
0:57:23
0:57:27
to Rosarito Beach, where there's a autonomous
1080
0:57:27
0:57:29
University of Mexico campus.
1081
0:57:29
0:57:33
And it was just a few trailers and an old satanic church
1082
0:57:33
0:57:37
and teach us from Mein Kampf.
1083
0:57:37
0:57:41
So that he was teaching from the mysticism,
1084
0:57:41
0:57:43
from the Nazi ideology.
1085
0:57:43
0:57:45
He was teaching me to be a real girl.
1086
0:57:45
0:57:47
He was, they were teaching.
1087
0:57:47
0:57:51
And we spent basically two weeks in the sun
1088
0:57:51
0:57:54
with no clothes, no washing, no, I mean, we were,
1089
0:57:54
0:57:57
he took us down to feral children.
1090
0:57:57
0:58:00
So, I don't know how I can't,
1091
0:58:00
0:58:02
there was also a lot of drugs involved.
1092
0:58:02
0:58:06
And so they created feral children.
1093
0:58:06
0:58:09
They were taking children that they had decided were smart
1094
0:58:09
0:58:12
and had a lot of strength and had a lot of like
1095
0:58:12
0:58:15
remote viewing innate abilities.
1096
0:58:15
0:58:19
And they were training us using the original text
1097
0:58:19
0:58:24
of Mein Kampf, which he knew backwards and forwards
1098
0:58:25
0:58:28
since he'd gotten hold of it in the 1930s.
1100
0:58:31
0:58:33
So Juliette, Jerome is here.
1101
0:58:33
0:58:35
Jerome, you've been listening all this time.
1103
0:58:35
0:58:39
I'm, I have your book right here.
1104
0:58:39
0:58:41
Great, there it is.
1105
0:58:41
0:58:43
Do you have another book that you're talking about
1106
0:58:43
0:58:44
that you wanna do?
1107
0:58:45
0:58:48
Actually, that's the one that talks about my childhood,
1108
0:58:48
0:58:50
growing up in MKL track.
1109
0:58:50
0:58:52
I've reviewed it, I've done podcasts on it.
1110
0:58:52
0:58:54
We've spoken about it.
1111
0:58:55
0:58:57
So, I mean, it sounded like you had another book
1112
0:58:57
0:58:58
that you were talking about.
1113
0:58:58
0:59:00
If you did, I'd be interested.
1114
0:59:00
0:59:03
Well, I had, I just started to remember
1115
0:59:03
0:59:06
the process of interviewing and working with New California.
1116
0:59:06
0:59:10
And I've done interviews with JJ Carroll,
1117
0:59:10
0:59:14
who's a California, was a California border control agent
1118
0:59:14
0:59:16
and it stimulated more memories.
1119
0:59:16
0:59:18
So I could definitely write another book
1120
0:59:18
0:59:21
which should be more detailed in terms of the people
1121
0:59:21
0:59:22
on the other side involved.
1122
0:59:22
0:59:24
But I don't know how useful that would be,
1123
0:59:24
0:59:27
but I'll be glad to talk to you about it anytime.
1124
0:59:27
0:59:29
If you and Darya wanted to do something,
1125
0:59:29
0:59:32
if you wanna do something more analytic about it
1126
0:59:32
0:59:36
or carry it forward in terms of what the impact
1127
0:59:36
0:59:38
was on the JFK assassination and all the rest of it,
1128
0:59:38
0:59:40
that would be interesting.
1129
0:59:40
0:59:43
I mean, but I have, we've done interviews on this and...
1130
0:59:45
0:59:47
But Jerome, have you done any interviews
1131
0:59:47
0:59:50
on what has happened?
1132
0:59:50
0:59:52
So the document which was published
1133
0:59:52
0:59:54
just before Christmas last year,
1134
0:59:54
0:59:56
have you done any interviews in the light
1135
0:59:56
0:59:58
of what's in those documents?
1136
0:59:59
1:00:03
I've carried it forward to, I've done it in my podcasts,
1137
1:00:03
1:00:07
I've done a lot of discussion about how this is the beginning
1138
1:00:07
1:00:09
of the disinformation that we've seen.
1139
1:00:09
1:00:14
And I wrote a book on the whole issue of communism
1140
1:00:15
1:00:18
and Marxism in which the sexual revolution
1141
1:00:18
1:00:22
was centered to it, also tied to the Frankfurt School.
1142
1:00:22
1:00:24
So I mean, everything Juliet's talking about,
1143
1:00:24
1:00:26
I've been following and reporting on,
1144
1:00:26
1:00:28
and I've had interviews with her as well.
1145
1:00:28
1:00:30
I'm happy to do more.
1146
1:00:30
1:00:33
But Jerome, have you done any...
1147
1:00:33
1:00:37
Have you published anything about the documents released
1148
1:00:37
1:00:38
just before Christmas last year?
1149
1:00:38
1:00:41
Because by the time Juliet knew about the...
1150
1:00:41
1:00:43
Oh, I don't know why that's...
1151
1:00:43
1:00:46
Well, I was just gonna just bring up the document again
1152
1:00:46
1:00:48
to show.
1153
1:00:48
1:00:50
Yeah, by the time you realized that that document existed
1154
1:00:50
1:00:53
or had been published, Juliet, when was that?
1155
1:00:54
1:00:57
I didn't know about it until the beginning of February.
1156
1:00:57
1:01:00
Actually, I heard about it from Ray McGovern.
1157
1:01:01
1:01:03
Oh, right, I was going to ask you, who told you?
1158
1:01:03
1:01:04
Ray McGovern did.
1159
1:01:04
1:01:06
Ray McGovern did.
1160
1:01:06
1:01:06
And he said he might be interested.
1161
1:01:06
1:01:08
Is he the presidential candidate?
1162
1:01:08
1:01:09
Was he?
1163
1:01:09
1:01:13
No, no, he was a CIA whistleblower from way back.
1164
1:01:14
1:01:15
Right, wow.
1165
1:01:15
1:01:19
And he contacted me and said, you might be interested.
1166
1:01:19
1:01:20
So I started to read it.
1167
1:01:20
1:01:23
And of course, it's 1200 pages.
1168
1:01:23
1:01:25
It takes a lot of going through.
1169
1:01:25
1:01:27
So does Trump know about this?
1170
1:01:27
1:01:31
And if he does, why hasn't he said anything about it?
1171
1:01:31
1:01:34
And why hasn't he invited you to the White House?
1172
1:01:34
1:01:35
I don't know.
1173
1:01:35
1:01:37
I've just really gotten through it myself.
1174
1:01:37
1:01:39
Would you go to the White House?
1175
1:01:39
1:01:40
Sure, of course.
1176
1:01:40
1:01:42
I'll talk to anybody about this.
1177
1:01:42
1:01:45
I do think a lot of this has been discussed
1178
1:01:45
1:01:46
at pretty great lengths.
1179
1:01:46
1:01:48
I've talked about it as well.
1180
1:01:48
1:01:53
I mean, the whole mind control, the CIA use of drugs,
1181
1:01:54
1:01:57
all the drug sex and rock and roll, I mean, all that.
1182
1:01:57
1:02:00
I covered it also extensively.
1183
1:02:00
1:02:01
Here they admit it.
1184
1:02:01
1:02:03
So basically, they confessed everything
1185
1:02:03
1:02:06
that you have been talking about.
1186
1:02:06
1:02:07
That's the difference.
1187
1:02:07
1:02:10
The document I covered very extensively in that book.
1188
1:02:11
1:02:16
But the document, it is incriminating in that, yes,
1189
1:02:16
1:02:20
it is a complete confession of what they were doing.
1190
1:02:22
1:02:25
But it has impact in that regard.
1191
1:02:25
1:02:27
But I mean, I think it's well established
1192
1:02:27
1:02:31
that all the mind control, the drug experiments, et cetera,
1193
1:02:31
1:02:34
in fact, this whole idea that the cultures of Germany
1194
1:02:34
1:02:37
and other cultures are still being very much mind controlled
1195
1:02:38
1:02:40
but turning off the energy.
1196
1:02:40
1:02:45
Jerome, you need to write about what Cathy was saying.
1197
1:02:46
1:02:49
So she has worked out the importance of this.
1198
1:02:49
1:02:51
And I agree with her.
1199
1:02:51
1:02:54
So it's absolutely central to what happened in 2020
1200
1:02:54
1:02:56
and all the nonsense about the Ukraine war
1201
1:02:56
1:02:59
and all the climate change nonsense as well.
1202
1:02:59
1:03:02
It's to confuse people as much as possible
1203
1:03:02
1:03:05
to rape their souls and minds.
1204
1:03:05
1:03:07
If Cathy would write that, that's a book.
1205
1:03:07
1:03:09
Cathy should do that and get it to me.
1206
1:03:09
1:03:12
Or Darya can collaborate.
1207
1:03:12
1:03:15
I mean, this is elaborating that story
1208
1:03:15
1:03:19
the way it was done today and here,
1209
1:03:19
1:03:22
putting it all together would be a very valuable book.
1210
1:03:22
1:03:24
And these are the people to do it.
1211
1:03:24
1:03:25
They love it.
1212
1:03:26
1:03:28
It would be a wonderful book.
1213
1:03:28
1:03:31
I'd be very interested in that book being put together.
1214
1:03:31
1:03:34
I think that would be a very important book to publish.
1215
1:03:35
1:03:37
Cathy, are you familiar with...
1220
1:03:41
1:03:43
Cathy, are you interested in doing that or what?
1221
1:03:43
1:03:44
Cathy, hang on.
1222
1:03:44
1:03:45
Well, absolutely.
1223
1:03:45
1:03:47
I'm wondering, are you familiar
1224
1:03:47
1:03:49
with Transformation of America?
1225
1:03:51
1:03:54
I've heard of it, but I can't say I could speak about it.
1226
1:03:54
1:03:55
Is that a book?
1227
1:03:56
1:04:00
Yeah, it's my 1995 testimony for Congress.
1228
1:04:00
1:04:02
National security was invoked on it.
1229
1:04:02
1:04:07
And it detailed much of what we've seen in society today
1230
1:04:08
1:04:12
and how our constitutional values have been eroded.
1231
1:04:12
1:04:14
It detailed who was gonna be placed
1232
1:04:14
1:04:18
in the office of president right up until Hillary Clinton
1233
1:04:18
1:04:20
was supposed to usher in the new world order.
1234
1:04:20
1:04:23
And of course, that didn't happen.
1235
1:04:23
1:04:25
Too many of us were awake and aware 2016
1236
1:04:25
1:04:28
and we overrode the rigged electronic algorithm.
1237
1:04:28
1:04:33
But in those voting machines and elected a president
1238
1:04:34
1:04:37
that was not Hillary Clinton in her new world order
1239
1:04:37
1:04:40
and is a president that represented we the people
1240
1:04:40
1:04:44
and showed us what a swamp Washington DC is.
1241
1:04:44
1:04:47
And it's really validated Transformation of America
1242
1:04:47
1:04:49
that much more again.
1243
1:04:49
1:04:50
Time has validated it.
1245
1:04:53
1:04:55
Cathy and Julius, because my time is running out.
1246
1:04:55
1:05:00
So on the 2nd of June, 1948, seven doctors,
1247
1:05:02
1:05:06
medical doctors were hanged in Nuremberg in Germany
1248
1:05:06
1:05:09
for human medical experimentation.
1249
1:05:09
1:05:13
And the prosecutors were Americans.
1250
1:05:13
1:05:16
They were Americans in the doctors trial.
1251
1:05:16
1:05:18
It was human medical experimentation
1252
1:05:18
1:05:21
and psychological torture and all the rest of it.
1253
1:05:22
1:05:25
And this was very relevant to what happened in 2020.
1254
1:05:26
1:05:28
But then we hear that Operation Paperclip
1255
1:05:28
1:05:32
transported these people from Germany to the United States
1256
1:05:32
1:05:35
to continue the very same nonsense that was going on,
1257
1:05:35
1:05:38
evil that was going on.
1258
1:05:38
1:05:41
And so why were the Americans prosecuting on the one hand
1259
1:05:42
1:05:47
and involved in transporting these people secretly
1260
1:05:48
1:05:49
to the United States?
1261
1:05:49
1:05:51
And my killer question is this,
1262
1:05:51
1:05:55
have you become aware of any of the seven people
1263
1:05:55
1:05:59
who were allegedly hanged in Germany
1264
1:05:59
1:06:01
for human medical experimentation
1265
1:06:01
1:06:04
being found alive in the United States of America
1266
1:06:04
1:06:06
since the 2nd of June, 1948?
1267
1:06:07
1:06:11
Well, I can tell you that amongst the prosecutors,
1268
1:06:11
1:06:13
the American prosecutors at Nuremberg
1269
1:06:13
1:06:15
were five of my uncles.
1271
1:06:17
1:06:19
Yeah, and they were all been involved
1272
1:06:19
1:06:23
in transporting the Nazi, not just physicians.
1273
1:06:23
1:06:26
They were there to pick, they were all German speakers.
1274
1:06:26
1:06:28
My great-grandmother was German
1275
1:06:28
1:06:33
and they were all there to recruit for the CIA
1276
1:06:34
1:06:37
and there were British recruiting there
1277
1:06:37
1:06:38
and there were Russians recruiting there.
1278
1:06:38
1:06:41
So the Nazi scientists were divided up.
1279
1:06:41
1:06:45
I later met some of them in Russia years later.
1280
1:06:46
1:06:47
So I know from my family
1281
1:06:47
1:06:52
and my uncles received lavish gifts from these people
1282
1:06:52
1:06:54
who were then resettled in the United States,
1283
1:06:54
1:06:57
given new names, new identities, new jobs.
1284
1:06:57
1:07:02
And I met a British journalist named Christopher Story,
1285
1:07:02
1:07:03
maybe some of you know of him.
1286
1:07:03
1:07:05
Yes, I know the name.
1287
1:07:05
1:07:08
Yes, I was a source of his when I was living in Russia.
1288
1:07:08
1:07:12
But and then he said he was killed
1289
1:07:12
1:07:14
or he was being murdered in 1970
1290
1:07:14
1:07:18
or he was at the age of 74, which is I think 2010.
1291
1:07:18
1:07:23
But he told me that the records for all of the actual
1292
1:07:25
1:07:28
identities and the new identities for all of these scientists
1293
1:07:28
1:07:30
that were supposed to have been hung
1294
1:07:30
1:07:33
but were taken to the US were stored in the Murtaugh building
1295
1:07:33
1:07:35
in Oklahoma City.
1296
1:07:36
1:07:39
And that's where the explosion, the terrorist explosion was
1297
1:07:39
1:07:42
and that's where the records were destroyed.
1298
1:07:42
1:07:45
And up until that time, there'd been across the street
1299
1:07:45
1:07:49
from that building, there'd been a Nazi museum.
1300
1:07:49
1:07:51
So a lot of the artifacts that were brought
1301
1:07:51
1:07:54
with these scientists and engineers,
1302
1:07:54
1:07:55
they brought all kinds of people.
1303
1:07:55
1:07:59
So, Juli, we had a guest recently who was an expert
1304
1:07:59
1:08:00
on the Oklahoma City bombing.
1305
1:08:00
1:08:02
That was not what he talked to us about,
1306
1:08:02
1:08:04
but he was an expert on that.
1307
1:08:04
1:08:07
So, and I was very interested in the Oklahoma City bombing
1308
1:08:07
1:08:10
at the time because I knew that something was wrong
1309
1:08:10
1:08:11
with that story.
1310
1:08:11
1:08:15
And all the talk about Timothy McVeigh,
1311
1:08:15
1:08:19
his execution being really weird, you know,
1312
1:08:19
1:08:21
and I thought, what was that about?
1313
1:08:21
1:08:24
He was happy when he was dying allegedly, if he did die.
1314
1:08:24
1:08:26
If he did die, which he probably didn't.
1315
1:08:26
1:08:31
And the, well, if you're familiar with Christopher's story,
1316
1:08:31
1:08:35
he wrote a global report every month
1317
1:08:35
1:08:37
that was absolutely packed with information
1318
1:08:37
1:08:40
and those reports are archived.
1319
1:08:40
1:08:43
So you can find the information about the records kept
1320
1:08:43
1:08:44
at the Murtaugh building.
1321
1:08:44
1:08:47
And I totally believe that because he had traced,
1322
1:08:47
1:08:49
he had done a lot of work tracing out
1323
1:08:50
1:08:52
where these people disappeared to
1324
1:08:52
1:08:55
and what their new names were.
1325
1:08:55
1:08:58
And he was following several of them
1326
1:08:58
1:09:01
and they were gaining strength and positions
1327
1:09:01
1:09:03
inside the United States.
1328
1:09:03
1:09:04
And now they're like third generation.
1329
1:09:04
1:09:08
So you're getting descendants of these people.
1330
1:09:08
1:09:12
So Julia, do you think that the seven doctors
1331
1:09:12
1:09:15
who were hanged on the 2nd of June, 1948
1332
1:09:15
1:09:17
were actually hanged or were they?
1333
1:09:17
1:09:18
I don't, no.
1334
1:09:18
1:09:20
I think they were resettled.
1335
1:09:20
1:09:22
They could have been resettled in Britain,
1336
1:09:22
1:09:24
the United States or Russia.
1338
1:09:26
1:09:26
Probably the United States.
1339
1:09:26
1:09:28
So there was somebody hanged,
1340
1:09:28
1:09:30
hanged stay because there's an iconic photo of somebody,
1341
1:09:30
1:09:32
but not necessarily those doctors.
1342
1:09:32
1:09:34
They hang somebody, but you know,
1343
1:09:35
1:09:38
so these people were too valuable.
1344
1:09:38
1:09:41
Because we've only got Cathy for the next 15 minutes, Stephen,
1345
1:09:41
1:09:44
your 15 minutes is up and it's wonderful what you,
1346
1:09:44
1:09:46
and by the way, Stephen, to remind you,
1347
1:09:46
1:09:50
that expert was John Rappapour, of course, on the Oklahoma.
1348
1:09:50
1:09:51
John Rappapour, yeah.
1350
1:09:52
1:09:55
Okay, so John Rappapour's work is also,
1351
1:09:55
1:09:57
I'm sure Cathy and Julia, you've heard.
1352
1:09:57
1:09:59
So Stephen, well uncovered.
1353
1:09:59
1:10:00
Jerome's heard all of this.
1354
1:10:00
1:10:02
We've got Cathy for 17 minutes.
1355
1:10:02
1:10:03
So let's go through some questions
1356
1:10:03
1:10:05
and you'll get some more questions at the end, okay?
1357
1:10:05
1:10:07
Just to say to Jerome,
1358
1:10:07
1:10:09
Jerome, this is the biggest story of all, surely.
1359
1:10:09
1:10:12
I can't imagine a more important story than this.
1360
1:10:13
1:10:16
Well, I think a lot of pieces of it have been told,
1361
1:10:16
1:10:18
but if someone could put it together,
1362
1:10:18
1:10:20
that's what I'm suggesting that they,
1363
1:10:20
1:10:23
if Cathy and Julia and the others
1364
1:10:23
1:10:24
want to get a book together,
1365
1:10:24
1:10:26
there's a book to do that they could easily,
1366
1:10:26
1:10:28
they have access to all the information.
1367
1:10:28
1:10:29
They could put it together.
1368
1:10:29
1:10:32
I'd be very interested in that.
1369
1:10:32
1:10:33
All right.
1370
1:10:33
1:10:34
We can, got mine.
1371
1:10:34
1:10:35
All right.
1372
1:10:35
1:10:36
Thank you, Stephen.
1373
1:10:36
1:10:37
Thank you, Jerome.
1374
1:10:37
1:10:38
All right, let's go.
1375
1:10:38
1:10:40
Quick questions.
1376
1:10:40
1:10:41
So not too many statements.
1377
1:10:41
1:10:42
Go, Glenn.
1378
1:10:43
1:10:45
I'll focus directly on Cathy.
1379
1:10:46
1:10:48
You wrote, I mean, you spoke here
1380
1:10:48
1:10:52
about the brain hack mechanism of writing it out
1381
1:10:52
1:10:55
and beyond that, adding a solution.
1382
1:10:56
1:10:58
So as a quick, please, just yes or no,
1383
1:10:58
1:11:01
are you familiar with the partition clause
1384
1:11:01
1:11:03
in the Bill of Rights?
1386
1:11:05
1:11:07
No, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
1387
1:11:07
1:11:09
If you, okay, then you're not familiar with it.
1388
1:11:09
1:11:10
I'll explain what it is.
1389
1:11:11
1:11:13
In the First Amendment,
1390
1:11:13
1:11:15
everybody knows about free speech, free press,
1391
1:11:15
1:11:20
free religion, freedom to assemble.
1392
1:11:20
1:11:22
Almost no one knows about the other clause
1393
1:11:22
1:11:24
known as the partition clause.
1394
1:11:24
1:11:27
The partition clause allows people
1395
1:11:27
1:11:29
to partition their government
1396
1:11:29
1:11:34
around a grievance and to ask for redress.
1397
1:11:36
1:11:40
Redress is that solution mechanism.
1398
1:11:40
1:11:43
This is a constitutional right to every American.
1399
1:11:45
1:11:46
You can't find one in a hundred people
1400
1:11:46
1:11:49
that even know that right exists.
1401
1:11:49
1:11:53
Your description of writing it out,
1402
1:11:53
1:11:58
both as a mechanism to identify that grievance
1403
1:11:58
1:12:03
and thinking through a solution is a wonderful element.
1404
1:12:03
1:12:06
And the problem we have in the country now is
1405
1:12:06
1:12:10
so few people want to get in the game to get involved.
1406
1:12:10
1:12:11
This is an item.
1407
1:12:11
1:12:15
If that kind of delivery you could present to people
1408
1:12:15
1:12:17
and encourage them to come out,
1409
1:12:17
1:12:18
that they have to come out,
1410
1:12:18
1:12:21
everybody that's awake about all of the problems
1411
1:12:21
1:12:23
and the poisoning and the mind control,
1412
1:12:23
1:12:25
they have to go out and be ready to get involved
1413
1:12:25
1:12:28
with their local government and their state government
1414
1:12:28
1:12:29
and their federal government.
1415
1:12:29
1:12:34
And your mechanism of brain hack and write it out
1416
1:12:35
1:12:40
and with a solution, I think could be a tremendous approach.
1417
1:12:40
1:12:41
Would you agree?
1418
1:12:41
1:12:43
And do you think that that's a way
1419
1:12:43
1:12:47
of dramatically expanding public involvement?
1420
1:12:47
1:12:48
Yes, absolutely.
1421
1:12:48
1:12:53
And I really appreciate that because it spans
1422
1:12:54
1:12:57
all aspects of society that we need to be able
1423
1:12:57
1:13:00
to start cleaning up and taking back
1424
1:13:00
1:13:01
the way that it's intended to be
1425
1:13:01
1:13:04
because we've had so much of our societies eroded.
1426
1:13:04
1:13:07
I'm always encouraging people
1427
1:13:07
1:13:09
when I'm speaking out publicly or otherwise
1428
1:13:09
1:13:14
to get out in society and talk to each other eye to eye,
1429
1:13:14
1:13:16
heart to heart, soul to soul,
1430
1:13:16
1:13:19
make a difference in the school system,
1431
1:13:19
1:13:21
put writing by hand back in,
1432
1:13:21
1:13:26
get out and get involved in our voting,
1433
1:13:29
1:13:30
clean that up.
1434
1:13:31
1:13:33
But it all begins with local action.
1435
1:13:33
1:13:35
Local action has national impact,
1436
1:13:35
1:13:38
national impact has global impact.
1437
1:13:38
1:13:41
It's up to each and every one of us to do our part
1438
1:13:41
1:13:42
and picking up that pen and a paper
1439
1:13:42
1:13:44
is a great way to start it.
1440
1:13:45
1:13:46
Thank you, Glenn.
1441
1:13:46
1:13:48
Good observation.
1442
1:13:48
1:13:50
And please note, Michelle Perot,
1443
1:13:50
1:13:54
who's a top MD on kids and recovery from PTSD,
1444
1:13:54
1:13:56
have a look in the chat.
1445
1:13:56
1:14:00
I interviewed Michelle on informme.org,
1446
1:14:00
1:14:04
important course on vaccination, Cathy and Juliet.
1447
1:14:04
1:14:07
Inform-me.org, I'll put it in there.
1448
1:14:07
1:14:08
But amazing information coming out.
1449
1:14:08
1:14:10
So, all right, thank you, Glenn.
1450
1:14:10
1:14:11
Jeremy.
1451
1:14:13
1:14:14
Yeah, thank you, Charles.
1452
1:14:15
1:14:17
I'd just like to say that
1453
1:14:18
1:14:22
to Juliet and Cathy,
1454
1:14:22
1:14:24
thank you for your incredible courage
1455
1:14:24
1:14:27
in coming through all this
1456
1:14:27
1:14:29
and arriving at where you are right now.
1457
1:14:29
1:14:33
My connection here is rather tenuous to MKSULTRA.
1458
1:14:35
1:14:37
I'm at a birthday party right now
1459
1:14:37
1:14:42
for the son-in-law of a lady
1460
1:14:42
1:14:45
who went through that whole process in Montreal.
1461
1:14:45
1:14:47
I was born and raised in Montreal.
1462
1:14:47
1:14:52
She was treated with shock therapy, LSD
1463
1:14:53
1:14:55
and every other thing that they used
1464
1:14:55
1:14:57
at the Allen Memorial Institute,
1465
1:14:57
1:15:02
which was a wing of the Montreal Neurological Institute,
1466
1:15:06
1:15:07
McGill, of course.
1467
1:15:07
1:15:12
And so I've known the family, the whole family,
1468
1:15:12
1:15:14
including the grandmother,
1469
1:15:14
1:15:19
who's now unbelievably about to have her 100th birthday.
1470
1:15:20
1:15:23
She, of course, never wanted to talk
1471
1:15:23
1:15:24
about what she went through.
1472
1:15:24
1:15:28
So I only had brief comments
1473
1:15:30
1:15:33
from her about this program.
1474
1:15:33
1:15:38
The term MKULTRA was something I didn't actually hear
1475
1:15:38
1:15:40
until I got involved with this group.
1476
1:15:40
1:15:41
But once I heard about it,
1477
1:15:41
1:15:45
I realized that this is what she was involved with.
1478
1:15:45
1:15:47
And she survived it.
1479
1:15:47
1:15:52
She had four children that I grew up with.
1480
1:15:52
1:15:57
And unfortunately, the gal that I went to high school with,
1481
1:15:58
1:16:00
she died very recently.
1482
1:16:00
1:16:04
The mother is probably gonna outlive all the children.
1483
1:16:04
1:16:06
She was weird right from the beginning.
1484
1:16:06
1:16:08
It's the only way I can describe it.
1485
1:16:08
1:16:10
She, of course, never wanted to talk
1486
1:16:10
1:16:13
about what the experiences were.
1487
1:16:13
1:16:17
So I just thought I would relate that story to you.
1488
1:16:17
1:16:20
I'm thinking that she was probably in her 20s
1489
1:16:21
1:16:26
at the time that she became involved in the MKULTRA program.
1490
1:16:26
1:16:31
Her name is, still is, Ilana Fleming.
1491
1:16:31
1:16:35
And ironically, she became a supervisor
1492
1:16:35
1:16:40
for a number of decades at a school for troubled boys,
1493
1:16:40
1:16:43
or at least an institution for troubled boys
1494
1:16:43
1:16:45
in Montreal called Waredale.
1495
1:16:47
1:16:51
And I don't know how she handled all that,
1496
1:16:51
1:16:56
but she definitely wasn't on a normal wavelength,
1497
1:16:57
1:16:59
what I would call a normal wavelength with other people.
1498
1:16:59
1:17:01
I don't know how she survived it.
1499
1:17:01
1:17:05
I don't know whether she encountered sexual abuse,
1500
1:17:05
1:17:08
but she certainly was mentally abused.
1501
1:17:08
1:17:11
It cost her her marriage.
1502
1:17:12
1:17:17
But anyway, I just thought I would relate that to you.
1503
1:17:17
1:17:20
And then thank you again for your courage
1504
1:17:21
1:17:26
in going through what for you must be a very tough situation
1505
1:17:28
1:17:29
to relate to other people.
1506
1:17:29
1:17:33
Obviously, you've managed to overcome the worst of it.
1507
1:17:33
1:17:37
And so that's a very heroic thing that you've done.
1508
1:17:37
1:17:38
Thank you.
1509
1:17:40
1:17:41
Thank you.
1510
1:17:41
1:17:42
Thank you for bringing that up too,
1511
1:17:42
1:17:45
because Dr. Yuan Cameron was actively involved
1512
1:17:45
1:17:50
in those experiments and the horrible, horrible things
1513
1:17:51
1:17:53
they did in Montreal.
1514
1:17:53
1:17:55
And I'm very much aware of that.
1515
1:17:55
1:17:57
Michigan was so close to it and being right there
1516
1:17:57
1:18:01
at the US Canadian border at Mackinac,
1517
1:18:03
1:18:06
gave me a lot of insight into that.
1518
1:18:06
1:18:08
So many people are affected.
1519
1:18:08
1:18:11
This is far more pervasive than people understand.
1520
1:18:12
1:18:15
And it's been going on a long, long time.
1521
1:18:15
1:18:17
It's gotta stop.
1522
1:18:17
1:18:19
It's affecting the global population.
1523
1:18:19
1:18:23
Now it's affecting everybody on some level or another,
1524
1:18:23
1:18:25
because knowledge is our defense against it.
1525
1:18:25
1:18:28
Our information has been controlled a long time.
1526
1:18:28
1:18:33
And it's time that we all knew the truth that makes us free
1527
1:18:33
1:18:37
and stop this from happening to anybody else.
1528
1:18:37
1:18:40
Well, I think it will be very helpful for you
1529
1:18:40
1:18:42
to be in contact with your own core seat,
1530
1:18:42
1:18:46
to take this further, to take your story further.
1531
1:18:46
1:18:49
It needs to be told and it needs to be told
1532
1:18:49
1:18:51
in the broadest way possible
1533
1:18:51
1:18:53
through as many avenues as possible.
1534
1:18:53
1:18:54
So thank you again.
1535
1:18:56
1:18:58
Thank you, Jeremy.
1536
1:18:58
1:19:00
Chris, sorry, Sebastian.
1537
1:19:02
1:19:04
Good evening, Kathy and Juliet.
1538
1:19:04
1:19:09
And thank you also for your tremendous courage
1539
1:19:09
1:19:12
in telling us your story, which has been quite shocking.
1540
1:19:12
1:19:15
I am aware of the topic with MKUltra
1541
1:19:15
1:19:18
because I did get to read this book here,
1542
1:19:18
1:19:20
which is from Annie Jacobson.
1543
1:19:20
1:19:23
I don't know if you've ever been contacted by her
1544
1:19:23
1:19:25
and what she wrote in this book
1545
1:19:25
1:19:30
about Operation Paperclip or Project Paperclip.
1546
1:19:31
1:19:34
But I would like to ask Juliet,
1547
1:19:35
1:19:39
you do not have a recollection of your childhood.
1548
1:19:39
1:19:43
And I would like to know, is this because of programming
1549
1:19:43
1:19:45
or is this deliberate?
1550
1:19:45
1:19:48
Do you not want to remember this?
1551
1:19:48
1:19:49
And if so,
1552
1:19:50
1:19:54
would you, if you had the opportunity,
1553
1:19:54
1:19:56
would you actually want to return to those memories
1554
1:19:56
1:19:59
or just get, are you over it?
1555
1:20:00
1:20:02
I don't think you ever get over it.
1556
1:20:02
1:20:06
However, I did get back in my memories
1557
1:20:06
1:20:09
and that's what I've written in my book, Sparky,
1558
1:20:09
1:20:11
that Jerome was holding up there.
1559
1:20:11
1:20:13
And I put the information in the chat room
1560
1:20:13
1:20:16
so that you could get a copy of the book.
1561
1:20:16
1:20:19
I took myself back and wrote it as a child.
1562
1:20:19
1:20:24
So it took me two years of basically reliving
1563
1:20:24
1:20:25
all of that horror.
1564
1:20:25
1:20:28
I've never been able to get back earlier
1565
1:20:28
1:20:32
than actually that Dr. White,
1566
1:20:32
1:20:34
whose picture I showed you, Hunter White,
1567
1:20:35
1:20:38
raping my mother when I was four years old
1568
1:20:38
1:20:39
and I was forced to watch.
1569
1:20:39
1:20:41
And he said, if I ever said anything about it,
1570
1:20:41
1:20:44
he would kill my baby brother who was standing there
1571
1:20:45
1:20:49
pulled himself up in his crib and terrified me so badly
1572
1:20:49
1:20:53
that I immediately then started erasing memories.
1573
1:20:53
1:20:56
I got that memory back, but nothing before that.
1574
1:20:56
1:20:58
And I really can't remember my mother at all.
1575
1:20:58
1:21:02
So I think that she was probably very much
1576
1:21:02
1:21:05
as much part of the mind control system as her brother.
1577
1:21:05
1:21:09
It's her brother that was one of the founding members
1578
1:21:09
1:21:13
of the NSA, starting with OSS and Arlington Hall.
1579
1:21:14
1:21:18
And no, I got the memories back.
1580
1:21:18
1:21:20
And the only way I can talk about them
1581
1:21:20
1:21:22
is that I wrote about them.
1582
1:21:22
1:21:25
So as Kathy said, writing it all out
1583
1:21:25
1:21:27
and working through each one
1584
1:21:27
1:21:30
by looking at my own written words.
1585
1:21:30
1:21:35
If I were to suddenly get a new access into memories,
1586
1:21:35
1:21:37
like when I first started remembering
1587
1:21:37
1:21:41
being on the beach in Mexico with Alan Cranston
1588
1:21:41
1:21:45
and living like Lord of the Flies,
1589
1:21:45
1:21:47
I was disabled really for several days,
1590
1:21:47
1:21:51
just going through that and couldn't talk about it.
1591
1:21:51
1:21:56
So it's a slow process and painful process remembering
1592
1:21:57
1:21:59
and the only reason to do it.
1593
1:21:59
1:22:00
And there's a lot of people that won't do it.
1594
1:22:00
1:22:02
There's a lot of people, very successful people
1595
1:22:02
1:22:05
who you would recognize their names who won't do it
1596
1:22:05
1:22:07
because they have no reason to.
1597
1:22:07
1:22:10
They're not compelled to do it.
1598
1:22:10
1:22:12
I was compelled to do it.
1599
1:22:12
1:22:17
And yeah, it's frustrating that it takes so long,
1600
1:22:19
1:22:23
but it does take, it takes me a long time.
1601
1:22:23
1:22:27
I was out of the program in 1966,
1602
1:22:27
1:22:29
although I realized looking back over my life,
1603
1:22:29
1:22:31
I've been interacting with people in the program
1604
1:22:31
1:22:34
for years after that,
1605
1:22:34
1:22:39
and probably wasn't ever entirely out of the program.
1606
1:22:41
1:22:43
So how can I know?
1607
1:22:43
1:22:44
Thank you, Juliette.
1608
1:22:44
1:22:46
Because we're tight with Cathy.
1609
1:22:46
1:22:47
Oh yes, I'm sorry.
1610
1:22:47
1:22:51
If anyone who's with their hand up wants to ask
1611
1:22:51
1:22:54
Cathy specifically something for the next few minutes,
1612
1:22:54
1:22:57
if Juliette can answer the question,
1613
1:22:57
1:22:58
then pass to somebody else.
1614
1:22:58
1:23:01
So Ron, are you for Cathy or Juliette or can you?
1615
1:23:02
1:23:04
I have a question for both.
1616
1:23:05
1:23:07
Should I go ahead and ask?
1617
1:23:07
1:23:08
Go for it.
1619
1:23:09
1:23:11
Ask Cathy and then we'll go through
1620
1:23:11
1:23:14
so that we've got to, as for the time, go.
1621
1:23:14
1:23:15
Understood.
1622
1:23:15
1:23:18
Cathy O'Brien, I'm a California Department of Public Health
1623
1:23:18
1:23:19
retiree whistleblower.
1624
1:23:19
1:23:22
I'm going to all the counties telling them
1625
1:23:22
1:23:24
about the danger of the COVID-19 vaccine.
1626
1:23:26
1:23:28
And by the way, it's really an honor to talk to you.
1627
1:23:28
1:23:29
I've read both of your books,
1628
1:23:29
1:23:33
or actually heard both of your books on the audio book.
1629
1:23:33
1:23:37
In sharing with a board of supervisors,
1630
1:23:37
1:23:41
what can you suggest to help break this
1631
1:23:41
1:23:44
vaccines are safe and effective mantra?
1632
1:23:45
1:23:50
Voice inflection, eye contact, any nonverbal cues,
1633
1:23:50
1:23:54
what kind of suggestions can you suggest?
1634
1:23:55
1:23:56
Thank you.
1635
1:23:57
1:24:00
I think everybody needs to understand
1636
1:24:00
1:24:02
that they've been manipulated a long time.
1637
1:24:02
1:24:06
The repetitive media narrative really has a strong impact.
1638
1:24:06
1:24:09
When we understand components of mind control,
1639
1:24:09
1:24:11
we have defense against it.
1640
1:24:11
1:24:15
The media, it promotes the vaccines,
1641
1:24:15
1:24:18
advertisements promote them.
1642
1:24:18
1:24:23
We see them in the various drug stores promoting it.
1643
1:24:23
1:24:27
Big Pharma has had too strong of a reach for a long time.
1644
1:24:27
1:24:29
People need to think free of that.
1645
1:24:29
1:24:31
They've got a long way to go to break free of it.
1646
1:24:31
1:24:33
They could pick up that pen and paper
1647
1:24:33
1:24:37
and make a list of the pros and cons
1648
1:24:37
1:24:39
and research it for themselves.
1649
1:24:39
1:24:42
Instead of relying on what someone else is telling them
1650
1:24:42
1:24:44
to think, they need to start researching
1651
1:24:44
1:24:46
and looking into themselves.
1652
1:24:46
1:24:50
And they'll find very quickly how adverse they are.
1653
1:24:50
1:24:53
That it's a matter of breaking people's programming
1654
1:24:53
1:24:57
because they've been programmed for so long now
1655
1:24:57
1:25:00
to accept them and go for them.
1656
1:25:00
1:25:03
So we just keep bringing that truth out there
1657
1:25:03
1:25:08
and eventually more and more people are gonna wake up.
1658
1:25:08
1:25:12
But yeah, we need them to wake up now
1659
1:25:12
1:25:13
for the children's sake.
1660
1:25:14
1:25:16
Well, I'd want to hold your question
1661
1:25:16
1:25:17
for Julie a bit later.
1662
1:25:17
1:25:19
Dave, have you got a question for Cathy?
1663
1:25:21
1:25:22
Keep your hand up, Ron.
1664
1:25:22
1:25:23
Keep your hand up on the screen.
1666
1:25:27
1:25:28
You're muted, Dave.
1667
1:25:28
1:25:29
You mute yourself.
1668
1:25:29
1:25:30
You're muted, Dave.
1669
1:25:33
1:25:34
Okay, move on.
1671
1:25:35
1:25:37
Hey, thanks very much.
1672
1:25:37
1:25:42
Cathy, using parasites or toxoplasmosis
1673
1:25:42
1:25:45
or exposure to cats as mind control.
1674
1:25:45
1:25:49
It seems so we're having an explosion of toxoplasmosis
1675
1:25:49
1:25:52
in the United States and damage to the CD3, CD4
1676
1:25:52
1:25:54
and CD8 counts of the virus.
1677
1:25:54
1:25:56
So what's the impact of that?
1678
1:25:56
1:25:58
So we're seeing a lot of damage to the CD3, CD4
1679
1:25:58
1:26:01
and CD8 counts of people through the vaccine.
1680
1:26:01
1:26:03
It seems like this is an indirect mechanism
1681
1:26:03
1:26:08
to get people affected by toxoplasmosis mind control
1682
1:26:10
1:26:14
and then stopping the medications
1683
1:26:14
1:26:16
that treat the toxoplasmosis mind control
1684
1:26:16
1:26:19
like the anti-parasitics, hydroxychloroquine,
1685
1:26:19
1:26:23
ivermectin and nitrozoxinide
1686
1:26:23
1:26:27
as well as the anti-toxoplasmosis medications, daraprim.
1687
1:26:27
1:26:30
Did you have any experience with people trying to arm you
1688
1:26:30
1:26:33
with parasites or any kind of infectious agents
1689
1:26:33
1:26:35
during your issues?
1690
1:26:36
1:26:39
No, what I was exposed to is in my testimony
1691
1:26:39
1:26:42
Transformation of America,
1692
1:26:42
1:26:45
and that you can either read about it
1693
1:26:45
1:26:47
or listen to it on Audible,
1694
1:26:47
1:26:51
but that was involving the AIDS vaccine
1695
1:26:51
1:26:54
and how it was gonna be used as a depopulation agenda.
1696
1:26:54
1:26:58
And it's something that was being imposed on Haiti
1697
1:26:58
1:26:59
at the time.
1698
1:26:59
1:27:02
And those particular black ops that I worked,
1699
1:27:02
1:27:05
I was given an immunity against it.
1700
1:27:05
1:27:09
And so I had the immunity against AIDS
1701
1:27:09
1:27:11
so that I was around that all the time.
1702
1:27:11
1:27:13
What is that immunity?
1703
1:27:13
1:27:15
Why doesn't everybody have it?
1704
1:27:15
1:27:18
Those are things that we need to start demanding answers for
1705
1:27:18
1:27:20
because George Bush knew about it
1706
1:27:20
1:27:23
and Hillary Clinton sure knew about it.
1707
1:27:23
1:27:26
And those are aspects that,
1708
1:27:26
1:27:31
you know, there's so much more known on absolute cures
1709
1:27:32
1:27:34
than we are privy to.
1710
1:27:34
1:27:37
And it's time we get big pharma out of our lives
1711
1:27:37
1:27:38
from destroying it.
1712
1:27:38
1:27:42
And we're able to have the ethics of doctors
1713
1:27:42
1:27:44
and the medical profession like yourself
1714
1:27:45
1:27:49
have the voice to be able to start making
1715
1:27:49
1:27:51
the positive necessary change
1716
1:27:51
1:27:55
so that we have access to what they know about.
1717
1:27:56
1:27:57
Thank you, Jim.
1718
1:27:57
1:28:00
I'd like to contact you later on about that.
1720
1:28:03
1:28:04
Thanks, Jim.
1722
1:28:05
1:28:06
Yeah, hi, thank you.
1723
1:28:06
1:28:11
I just wanted to ask a question about the actual trafficking
1724
1:28:11
1:28:16
possibly the international trafficking of people.
1725
1:28:17
1:28:21
In 1998, I was on the island of Saipan
1726
1:28:21
1:28:24
in the North Marianas Islands for a year
1727
1:28:24
1:28:26
working in medical.
1728
1:28:30
1:28:34
So they have these karaoke bars
1729
1:28:34
1:28:36
and they specialized,
1730
1:28:36
1:28:39
the ladies there at these karaoke bars,
1731
1:28:39
1:28:41
they specialized in, you know,
1732
1:28:41
1:28:43
these were the Filipina girls.
1733
1:28:43
1:28:46
This other karaoke place was the Russian girls,
1734
1:28:50
1:28:52
Japanese and Chinese.
1735
1:28:52
1:28:54
So these are like the four.
1736
1:28:54
1:28:58
But I'm wondering, because of all the things
1737
1:28:58
1:28:59
that I saw there on that island,
1738
1:28:59
1:29:02
beautiful island, beautiful people,
1739
1:29:02
1:29:07
but just what we the Americans do on that island,
1740
1:29:08
1:29:10
it now leads me to believe that
1741
1:29:10
1:29:15
is there something going on in the actual trafficking
1742
1:29:15
1:29:17
of the moving of these people?
1743
1:29:17
1:29:20
Because I had met a lot of girls as an example,
1744
1:29:20
1:29:22
like the Filipina girls,
1745
1:29:22
1:29:25
after their year of work was over,
1746
1:29:25
1:29:30
they would either like could re-up and stay or go back home.
1747
1:29:30
1:29:32
But a lot of them then continued on and said,
1748
1:29:32
1:29:35
oh no, I'm gonna go to Japan.
1749
1:29:36
1:29:39
And so I realized, wow, they're like moving.
1750
1:29:41
1:29:45
So my question is kind of resides in that spot.
1751
1:29:45
1:29:47
Like, have you ever heard of anything
1752
1:29:47
1:29:51
about the Marianas Islands chain
1753
1:29:51
1:29:55
of possibly being like a jumping off point
1754
1:29:55
1:30:00
between America and the Asian continent?
1756
1:30:02
1:30:04
It makes sense.
1757
1:30:04
1:30:05
Have you heard about it, Juliet?
1758
1:30:07
1:30:11
I was gonna say, I was gonna suggest that you go research,
1759
1:30:11
1:30:15
look up the International Organization of Migration,
1760
1:30:15
1:30:20
because they are behind moving the people on your islands
1761
1:30:21
1:30:22
and everywhere in the world.
1762
1:30:23
1:30:28
It's the United Nations Agency which handles migration.
1763
1:30:28
1:30:33
It's almost 100% funded with US taxpayer money.
1764
1:30:33
1:30:36
So that's one of the reasons to cut off USAID.
1765
1:30:36
1:30:39
And they brag about, if you go to their website,
1766
1:30:39
1:30:44
they brag about moving 270 million people worldwide
1767
1:30:44
1:30:47
supporting their migration in the last three years.
1768
1:30:47
1:30:49
So they are behind this.
1769
1:30:49
1:30:53
They have multiple headquarters
1770
1:30:53
1:30:56
on the migration routes to the United States.
1771
1:30:56
1:30:58
They're all throughout Mexico.
1772
1:30:58
1:31:01
They have a headquarters, quite a large one facility
1773
1:31:01
1:31:03
in the Darien Gap.
1774
1:31:03
1:31:07
So they manage the migrants that get to Central America
1775
1:31:07
1:31:09
and then up into the Darien Gap
1776
1:31:09
1:31:12
and then manage their passage up to the United States.
1777
1:31:12
1:31:15
So it's all funded by one UN agency.
1778
1:31:15
1:31:19
And I could do a whole two hours
1779
1:31:19
1:31:21
on the International Organization of Migration,
1780
1:31:21
1:31:22
but you should look that up,
1781
1:31:22
1:31:25
because they're the ones largely funding,
1782
1:31:25
1:31:29
government funding these trafficked people
1783
1:31:29
1:31:31
from all over the world.
1784
1:31:31
1:31:33
One other observation on that island,
1785
1:31:33
1:31:36
in 1998, I was there for 10 months.
1786
1:31:36
1:31:41
And all the doctors on the island were Canadians,
1787
1:31:41
1:31:44
all like 99%.
1788
1:31:44
1:31:47
The two that I worked for were the only two,
1789
1:31:47
1:31:50
the first two indigenous doctors from that area,
1790
1:31:50
1:31:53
Dr. Hocog and Dr. Aldon.
1791
1:31:53
1:31:56
We started, and they started Saipan Health Clinic.
1792
1:31:56
1:31:59
And that's what I was there helping them set that up.
1793
1:31:59
1:32:02
But all the doctors were Canadian.
1794
1:32:02
1:32:04
And the light bulb went off, Kathy,
1795
1:32:04
1:32:08
when you said earlier, you just brought up Eli Lilly
1796
1:32:09
1:32:13
and Cyclone B, and it just dawned on me,
1797
1:32:13
1:32:17
wait a minute, why is all the medical establishment people
1798
1:32:17
1:32:19
were Canadians?
1799
1:32:19
1:32:21
And I know, you know, Kenote.
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1:32:21
1:32:23
Okay, we're gonna move.
1801
1:32:23
1:32:24
We're gonna leave all that.
1802
1:32:24
1:32:24
So anyways.
1803
1:32:25
1:32:28
And Albert, she did mention,
1804
1:32:28
1:32:31
one of the guests mentioned Pierre Trudeau as well.
1805
1:32:31
1:32:33
So that's a Canadian connection.
1807
1:32:34
1:32:37
All right, just quickly, but Kathy, I know you gotta go,
1808
1:32:37
1:32:39
but we've got Astrid and then Susan,
1809
1:32:39
1:32:40
and then we'll let you go.
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1:32:40
1:32:41
Astrid?
1811
1:32:42
1:32:43
Yeah, thank you.
1812
1:32:43
1:32:45
Thank you so much, Charles and Stefan
1813
1:32:45
1:32:47
for making this topic.
1814
1:32:47
1:32:49
And thank you to Katie and Juliet.
1815
1:32:49
1:32:51
I haven't read everything,
1816
1:32:51
1:32:55
but I think you are one of the greatest evidence
1817
1:32:55
1:32:59
and explanation for what is going on behind the scene.
1818
1:32:59
1:33:01
And I'm saying that because my question is about
1819
1:33:01
1:33:04
a deep question I have.
1820
1:33:04
1:33:08
This is, and you said it, a spiritual war against humanity.
1821
1:33:08
1:33:11
And everything brings me to that.
1822
1:33:11
1:33:14
And I just want to mention the vaccination
1823
1:33:14
1:33:17
is not only full of nanotech, aluminum,
1824
1:33:17
1:33:21
and frequency, captation, and et cetera,
1825
1:33:22
1:33:24
but I have worked with exorcists.
1826
1:33:24
1:33:26
And I said, what is in, they wanted to analyze it.
1827
1:33:26
1:33:29
So I brought some vials.
1828
1:33:29
1:33:31
And they came up after three years,
1829
1:33:31
1:33:34
they got a lot of vials to say that
1830
1:33:34
1:33:36
they have made a lot of black magic.
1831
1:33:36
1:33:38
And there are about seven entities in this
1832
1:33:38
1:33:40
and the different entities.
1833
1:33:40
1:33:44
And that they are putting everything they can in that
1834
1:33:44
1:33:48
to turn off the soul and to turn off the light in the soul.
1835
1:33:48
1:33:51
So what you said when you said collect the soul,
1836
1:33:51
1:33:54
that's exactly what he said.
1837
1:33:54
1:33:57
On the other hand, I have also been investigating
1838
1:33:57
1:34:00
not only the UN and I can just confirm Juliet
1839
1:34:00
1:34:02
that it's not only the International Organization
1840
1:34:02
1:34:06
of Migration, it's the United Nations High Commissioner
1841
1:34:06
1:34:11
for Refugees, and it's the whole humanitarian center
1842
1:34:11
1:34:12
that are in Geneva where I am.
1843
1:34:12
1:34:14
And sorry, I did not introduce me.
1844
1:34:14
1:34:18
Astrid Stuckeberger and I'm a WSO whistleblower.
1845
1:34:18
1:34:20
I've worked with the UN, I've worked with WHO,
1846
1:34:20
1:34:24
but I'm also in public health and I have reviewed science
1847
1:34:24
1:34:26
for politicians for UN, et cetera.
1848
1:34:26
1:34:31
So I come to the conclusion that the UN is totally occupied
1849
1:34:31
1:34:33
and has to be dismantled because what you're saying
1850
1:34:33
1:34:35
is exactly it is a corrupt system
1851
1:34:35
1:34:38
and they are doing sacrifices in the CERN.
1852
1:34:38
1:34:41
So I have been also a whistleblower for the CERN
1853
1:34:41
1:34:45
because I investigated and everything is around satanists.
1854
1:34:45
1:34:48
They are opening portals and they want to bring in
1855
1:34:48
1:34:50
entities from other worlds.
1856
1:34:50
1:34:53
It's the chief officer of research in the CERN
1857
1:34:53
1:34:57
who said that when we had the eclipse on 8th of April.
1858
1:34:57
1:35:00
So this question is like, let's dug deep in that.
1859
1:35:00
1:35:02
Who is behind this?
1860
1:35:02
1:35:06
Because you mentioned that your father was also a victim.
1861
1:35:06
1:35:08
So it's a trans-generation problem,
1862
1:35:08
1:35:12
but who is controlling this whole narrative
1863
1:35:12
1:35:14
and what the heck do they want?
1864
1:35:14
1:35:15
Where do they come from?
1865
1:35:15
1:35:19
Because we cannot fight them if we don't know exactly
1866
1:35:19
1:35:22
or at least a bit, and you must know more than anybody,
1867
1:35:22
1:35:23
who they are.
1868
1:35:23
1:35:24
Are they a human species behind?
1869
1:35:24
1:35:26
Is it another type?
1870
1:35:26
1:35:28
David Icke says they are reptilians
1871
1:35:28
1:35:31
and some others say they're exoplanets.
1872
1:35:31
1:35:34
And we have seen interviews of the mother of darkness,
1873
1:35:35
1:35:39
seeing big reptilians behind the queen
1874
1:35:39
1:35:44
and a big dinosaur with big ear for King Charles.
1875
1:35:44
1:35:46
I mean, I don't know what to think about this
1876
1:35:46
1:35:51
because they are doing so much geoengineering to kill us
1877
1:35:51
1:35:54
that it's just like they want to swallow us.
1878
1:35:54
1:35:55
They cannot be human.
1879
1:35:55
1:36:00
So could you just give us a clue on what is really at stake?
1880
1:36:01
1:36:02
It cannot just be Satan against God.
1881
1:36:02
1:36:07
It is something against humans and our-
1882
1:36:07
1:36:11
I think that's the question that we all need to be able
1883
1:36:11
1:36:14
to explore and it begins with reclaiming our free thought
1884
1:36:15
1:36:19
and realizing the resiliency of body, mind and spirit.
1885
1:36:19
1:36:22
That soul is stronger than genetics.
1886
1:36:22
1:36:24
That soul is strong enough.
1887
1:36:24
1:36:26
We have so much inner strength.
1888
1:36:26
1:36:30
We are able to overcome anything that life puts in our path
1889
1:36:30
1:36:33
because what happens to us is not who we are.
1890
1:36:33
1:36:35
Who we are is still within us.
1891
1:36:35
1:36:38
So we have this saving grace
1892
1:36:38
1:36:41
and that is what these perpetrators fear.
1893
1:36:41
1:36:43
It doesn't matter if we call them aliens or demons
1894
1:36:43
1:36:45
or whatever we want to call them.
1895
1:36:45
1:36:48
All I know is that they are very low vibration,
1896
1:36:48
1:36:53
dark negative energy force that feed off of low vibration.
1897
1:36:55
1:36:57
They need to keep us at a low vibration.
1898
1:36:57
1:37:00
They need to keep us in fear, keep us divided,
1899
1:37:00
1:37:05
keep us in hating, keep us in that low negative vibration
1900
1:37:07
1:37:09
because that's what they can feed off.
1901
1:37:09
1:37:11
Well, when we-
1902
1:37:11
1:37:12
Are they going to go extinct?
1903
1:37:12
1:37:14
Are they in extinction?
1904
1:37:14
1:37:16
Well, when we live the love we are,
1905
1:37:16
1:37:19
when we go and we gather all that in the light of truth,
1906
1:37:19
1:37:22
when we have our free thought, our ability to gather
1907
1:37:22
1:37:25
that strength of spirit, we have all the strength.
1908
1:37:25
1:37:27
We have the victory.
1909
1:37:27
1:37:30
We have been blessed and born with that victory
1910
1:37:30
1:37:33
within us all along and they know it.
1911
1:37:33
1:37:36
That's what they fear is that we're going to remember that.
1912
1:37:36
1:37:40
So they try to keep us in this constant state of fear.
1913
1:37:40
1:37:43
And when in fact, it's like when we start living the love
1914
1:37:43
1:37:46
that we are, that vibration is so high
1915
1:37:46
1:37:49
that they cannot affect it.
1916
1:37:49
1:37:52
They are not like us and they do not like us.
1917
1:37:52
1:37:54
We can call them soulless.
1918
1:37:54
1:37:57
We can call them, but whatever we call them,
1919
1:37:57
1:38:01
the fact of the matter is we have all the power
1920
1:38:01
1:38:04
and their darkness cannot creep in on our light.
1921
1:38:04
1:38:06
That's an impossibility.
1922
1:38:06
1:38:10
Our light exposes what they're hiding in their darkness.
1923
1:38:10
1:38:13
So we need to remember who we are and why we're here,
1924
1:38:13
1:38:16
gather that strength of spirit, shine that light,
1925
1:38:16
1:38:20
live the love we are and it's game over on all levels.
1926
1:38:20
1:38:22
We win, they lose.
1927
1:38:23
1:38:28
Charles, I think if Astrid Stuckelberger
1928
1:38:28
1:38:31
and Kathy O'Brien and Juliet Engel would like to present
1929
1:38:31
1:38:34
to us another time and have a conversation on these lines,
1930
1:38:34
1:38:37
that would be really helpful to a lot of people, I think.
1931
1:38:37
1:38:38
I would love to.
1932
1:38:38
1:38:39
Very good.
1933
1:38:39
1:38:40
All right, so thank you, Astrid.
1934
1:38:40
1:38:45
A last question before we let you go, Kathy from Susan.
1935
1:38:45
1:38:49
Yes, I have on the line Stephen Reimer's college classmate
1936
1:38:49
1:38:51
who's been trying to expose the same people
1937
1:38:51
1:38:52
for the last 10 years.
1938
1:38:52
1:38:55
He's working with somebody that's had the same experience.
1939
1:38:55
1:38:57
So I'll let Steve speak now.
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1:38:57
1:38:59
Go, Steve.
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1:38:59
1:39:00
Stephen, go for it.
1942
1:39:01
1:39:01
I've got something to say for me.
1943
1:39:01
1:39:03
This is a holy shit moment.
1944
1:39:03
1:39:05
We can't hear him.
1945
1:39:05
1:39:07
Hang on, hang on, wait, Stephen.
1946
1:39:07
1:39:10
Oh, can you not hear me?
1947
1:39:10
1:39:11
Go for it.
1948
1:39:11
1:39:13
Well, yeah, okay.
1949
1:39:14
1:39:17
Been in contact with him June of 2015,
1950
1:39:17
1:39:21
then personally got stuck into one of these satanic groups
1951
1:39:21
1:39:23
and asked to call the family.
1952
1:39:23
1:39:26
Managed to, one of the very few who managed to escape
1953
1:39:26
1:39:29
and many of the horror stories about MKUltra,
1954
1:39:29
1:39:32
mind control, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1955
1:39:32
1:39:33
He's relayed to me.
1956
1:39:33
1:39:38
I've helped him out of the house, helped me be able to
1957
1:39:38
1:39:39
remember many of those memories.
1958
1:39:39
1:39:42
This particular kid was personally,
1959
1:39:42
1:39:46
I say again, personally abused by somebody very high up
1960
1:39:46
1:39:47
in our government at the time
1961
1:39:47
1:39:49
by the name of Vice President Michael Pence.
1962
1:39:51
1:39:53
Pence is dirtier than North Dakota farmland.
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1:39:55
1:40:00
Anyhow, got pretty good ideas, spent a lot of time
1964
1:40:00
1:40:01
figuring out how this group is organized.
1965
1:40:01
1:40:04
They work out of a network of churches,
1966
1:40:04
1:40:06
about 3000 churches in the US.
1967
1:40:06
1:40:07
They look like normal churches
1968
1:40:07
1:40:10
and to a casual observer they are,
1969
1:40:10
1:40:12
but there's an underground side,
1970
1:40:12
1:40:14
usually part of Healing Room,
1971
1:40:14
1:40:16
which is a nationwide network
1972
1:40:16
1:40:18
of communication computer links for.
1973
1:40:20
1:40:21
Open up dark stuff.
1974
1:40:23
1:40:26
Just about every community has got one of these.
1975
1:40:28
1:40:31
These people have, at one time,
1976
1:40:32
1:40:34
a lot of our work has eroded some of their ability,
1977
1:40:34
1:40:38
but at one time they had an ability to mobilize
1978
1:40:38
1:40:40
enough followers to pretty much take over
1979
1:40:40
1:40:42
the entire United States on a day's time.
1980
1:40:43
1:40:48
Anyhow, I would love to have a chance
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1:40:48
1:40:51
to explain that to the group.
1982
1:40:51
1:40:54
I have a website you can go on if you want to see.
1983
1:40:54
1:40:59
It's called, findmeatbuffy.com forward slash investigator 11.
1984
1:41:02
1:41:03
There's an order chart in there
1985
1:41:03
1:41:04
which you have to be a member to get to,
1986
1:41:04
1:41:06
plus $10 a month,
1987
1:41:06
1:41:10
that shows how this whole group, in my view, is organized.
1988
1:41:10
1:41:13
They're linked to the promulgation of the COVID virus.
1989
1:41:15
1:41:16
When COVID broke out in China,
1990
1:41:16
1:41:20
I was personally talking to one guy up in Washington State
1991
1:41:20
1:41:21
and I asked him what happened.
1992
1:41:21
1:41:22
He said, was that you guys?
1993
1:41:22
1:41:24
He said, that was us.
1994
1:41:24
1:41:25
That's a direct quote.
1995
1:41:26
1:41:30
I had a pretty good idea of how COVID got here
1996
1:41:30
1:41:32
and how it was handled after it was here.
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1:41:33
1:41:35
It's a vector for a lot of things.
1998
1:41:35
1:41:38
It interacts with 5G cellular if you do it right.
1999
1:41:39
1:41:43
The 5G cellular network, the COVID thing
2000
1:41:43
1:41:46
was in some degree part of a big enough distraction
2001
1:41:46
1:41:50
to let Verizon get all these super powerful
2002
1:41:50
1:41:51
5G cellular towers up.
2003
1:41:53
1:41:54
They can be up.
2004
1:41:54
1:41:55
All right, come on, Susan.
2005
1:41:55
1:41:56
We've time for time.
2006
1:41:56
1:41:57
Okay, Steve, you've gotta,
2007
1:41:57
1:41:59
why don't you give me your website
2008
1:41:59
1:42:02
because the main speaker has to go.
2009
1:42:02
1:42:04
Susan, it's in the chat.
2010
1:42:04
1:42:05
It's in the chat.
2011
1:42:06
1:42:08
Okay, so thank you, Steve.
2012
1:42:08
1:42:08
We'll follow up.
2013
1:42:08
1:42:09
Thank you, Steve.
2014
1:42:09
1:42:11
We're willing to collaborate in any way,
2015
1:42:11
1:42:13
help write a book, work with you guys,
2016
1:42:13
1:42:14
have Steve on, tell us what you want.
2017
1:42:16
1:42:17
Beautiful, thank you, Susan.
2018
1:42:17
1:42:19
All right, Cathy, I know we have taken you
2019
1:42:19
1:42:22
for a little bit longer.
2020
1:42:22
1:42:24
Is there last comments and then we'll go back to Juliet
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1:42:24
1:42:25
after you leave.
2022
1:42:25
1:42:27
Cathy, anything else you'd like to say?
2023
1:42:27
1:42:28
Beautifully, you already said beautiful stuff.
2024
1:42:28
1:42:30
Thank you so much.
2025
1:42:30
1:42:34
Everybody, please note, soul is greater than genetics.
2026
1:42:34
1:42:37
I hope you all noted that.
2027
1:42:37
1:42:40
Soul is greater than genetics.
2028
1:42:40
1:42:44
And those of you who know nothing about soul,
2029
1:42:44
1:42:46
suspend your disbelief.
2030
1:42:46
1:42:47
Thank you, Cathy.
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1:42:47
1:42:48
Thank you for your testimony.
2032
1:42:48
1:42:50
Thank you for your bravery.
2033
1:42:50
1:42:52
And again, thank you, Daria,
2034
1:42:52
1:42:54
for organizing Cathy to be here.
2035
1:42:54
1:42:56
So please, we'll have you back again.
2036
1:42:57
1:42:59
There's lots to unpack, but Cathy, you go,
2037
1:42:59
1:43:01
because you're time to time.
2038
1:43:01
1:43:02
Maybe she doesn't want to go now, Charles.
2039
1:43:02
1:43:03
Thank you, Cathy.
2040
1:43:03
1:43:04
God bless.
2041
1:43:04
1:43:05
Thank you.
2042
1:43:05
1:43:06
Maybe she wants to stay now.
2043
1:43:06
1:43:09
She told us she had to go at 90 minutes, Stephen.
2044
1:43:09
1:43:12
Well, 90 minutes was some time ago.
2045
1:43:12
1:43:15
No, it was 17 minutes ago, to be precise.
2046
1:43:15
1:43:15
All right.
2047
1:43:15
1:43:17
Okay, she's gone.
2048
1:43:17
1:43:19
All right, back to Ron with Juliet.
2050
1:43:24
1:43:26
Can I say something to...
2051
1:43:27
1:43:29
About what Cathy's saying,
2052
1:43:29
1:43:34
because she just gave us the key to manage all of this.
2053
1:43:34
1:43:35
She just gave...
2054
1:43:35
1:43:39
And it sounds like maybe new age, but it isn't.
2055
1:43:40
1:43:43
When I was a child and we were on the beach
2056
1:43:43
1:43:46
night after night after night in Mexico,
2057
1:43:46
1:43:50
summoning demons, opening portals and summoning demons,
2058
1:43:50
1:43:52
just like they're doing in CERN.
2059
1:43:52
1:43:56
I'm sure this would be in the late 1950s.
2060
1:43:57
1:43:59
We didn't have a hadron collider,
2061
1:43:59
1:44:03
but they were after the human soul.
2062
1:44:03
1:44:08
And they were using spells from the Mein Kampf book
2063
1:44:08
1:44:09
that we can't get copies of,
2064
1:44:11
1:44:13
to summon demons from the ocean, to summon aliens.
2065
1:44:13
1:44:16
They were trying to use the children,
2066
1:44:16
1:44:21
the power of the children, to draw in entities
2067
1:44:21
1:44:25
that they thought would be extremely powerful.
2068
1:44:25
1:44:30
What they found is that they weren't as powerful
2069
1:44:31
1:44:33
as they thought they were going to be.
2070
1:44:33
1:44:36
And what Cathy's saying is if any human being
2071
1:44:36
1:44:40
that can stay in love and in strength
2072
1:44:40
1:44:45
and in contact with the Lord and in their core,
2073
1:44:45
1:44:48
which is what I was always able to do as a child,
2074
1:44:48
1:44:52
I never ever identified MK Eldra as part of me.
2075
1:44:52
1:44:54
It was always something external to me
2076
1:44:54
1:44:57
because I had an internal core that was connected to God.
2077
1:44:57
1:45:01
I had no idea what God was, but I knew it wasn't that.
2078
1:45:01
1:45:05
And so there's the key,
2079
1:45:05
1:45:07
even though we don't know what these creatures are,
2080
1:45:07
1:45:10
I'm convinced they're off planet.
2081
1:45:10
1:45:12
They hate us.
2082
1:45:12
1:45:14
Genocide and destruction of the human race
2083
1:45:14
1:45:19
was part of every lesson of the kids
2084
1:45:19
1:45:20
that were in the MK Eldra group.
2085
1:45:20
1:45:23
We started out with there is no life, basically.
2086
1:45:23
1:45:28
We're taking your soul and you're gonna be a goat.
2087
1:45:29
1:45:32
They had us divided into goats and sheep.
2088
1:45:32
1:45:36
The goats were gonna be the mind control masters
2089
1:45:36
1:45:37
with no souls.
2090
1:45:37
1:45:38
And frankly, they're right there
2091
1:45:38
1:45:40
in the senior executive service.
2092
1:45:40
1:45:42
You can look them up in the plum book.
2093
1:45:42
1:45:46
And the rest are the sheep.
2094
1:45:47
1:45:49
And they have no love or regard for the sheep.
2095
1:45:49
1:45:51
And as far as they're concerned,
2096
1:45:51
1:45:52
the sheep are gonna be slaughtered.
2097
1:45:52
1:45:54
We're gonna move into the goats.
2098
1:45:54
1:45:56
We're gonna move into underground bases
2099
1:45:56
1:46:00
as the planet is sterilized and refitted.
2100
1:46:00
1:46:02
And then what?
2101
1:46:02
1:46:04
I'm not sure.
2102
1:46:04
1:46:05
But that was the textbook.
2103
1:46:05
1:46:07
And I wrote all this down.
2104
1:46:07
1:46:12
I took copious notes from my MK Eldra classes.
2105
1:46:12
1:46:16
But what Kathy says is there's the key,
2106
1:46:16
1:46:20
is learning how to stay in love and not fear.
2107
1:46:20
1:46:21
Beautiful.
2108
1:46:21
1:46:24
Well, beautifully said, Juliet.
2109
1:46:24
1:46:27
Ron, that will be music to your ears, I would have thought.
2110
1:46:27
1:46:27
Yes, it is.
2111
1:46:27
1:46:30
As a man of faith and as a Christian who loved the Lord,
2112
1:46:30
1:46:35
yes, it's all about love, loving God and loving people.
2113
1:46:35
1:46:39
You mentioned in answering Stephen Frost's questions,
2114
1:46:39
1:46:41
something about New California.
2115
1:46:41
1:46:44
Can you expound on that?
2116
1:46:44
1:46:47
Because Julie Threatt and I were asked to speak
2117
1:46:47
1:46:49
at a New California event in California.
2118
1:46:49
1:46:52
In Calais County yesterday.
2119
1:46:52
1:46:56
And are you connected with the New California movement?
2120
1:46:56
1:46:59
Well, they've had me on their program several times
2121
1:46:59
1:47:02
because most of my MK Eldra experience
2122
1:47:02
1:47:04
took place in California.
2123
1:47:04
1:47:08
So I was indoctrinated at Disneyland.
2124
1:47:08
1:47:11
This would be when it opened in like 1956,
2125
1:47:11
1:47:13
55, 56, it was being built.
2126
1:47:13
1:47:18
We were already there in the,
2127
1:47:19
1:47:24
certain retreats, which are now sort of religious centers.
2128
1:47:24
1:47:28
They had annexes or what they would call the safe houses
2129
1:47:28
1:47:31
inside the religious retreats.
2130
1:47:31
1:47:35
They had one annex in a mission in Capistrano.
2131
1:47:35
1:47:37
I mean, it wasn't in the mission itself,
2132
1:47:37
1:47:40
but it was near enough to it that I saw the mission.
2133
1:47:42
1:47:46
So California for me, that was primarily
2134
1:47:46
1:47:48
where my experiences were.
2135
1:47:48
1:47:51
So I've been sharing that on Paul Preston's
2136
1:47:51
1:47:53
New California broadcast.
2137
1:47:53
1:47:57
And California, New California is basically,
2138
1:47:57
1:48:01
I don't know how many 80 counties of California are leaving
2139
1:48:02
1:48:04
and creating a new state.
2140
1:48:04
1:48:06
And they're gonna leave Los Angeles, San Francisco
2141
1:48:06
1:48:09
and San Diego behind.
2142
1:48:09
1:48:14
And it's got a lot of momentum from what I can see.
2143
1:48:14
1:48:16
Julie Threaten, I observed that yesterday.
2144
1:48:16
1:48:18
I don't wanna spend more time
2145
1:48:18
1:48:20
because other people wanna ask questions,
2146
1:48:20
1:48:23
but thank you for appearing for us today.
2147
1:48:25
1:48:26
You're welcome.
2148
1:48:26
1:48:28
Thank you, Ron.
2150
1:48:30
1:48:32
Yeah, sorry about, can you hear me okay?
2152
1:48:35
1:48:38
So I had a number of quick questions.
2153
1:48:39
1:48:40
MKUltra,
2154
1:48:41
1:48:43
there's a bunch of potential candidates.
2155
1:48:43
1:48:45
I wonder if you're familiar with any of them.
2156
1:48:45
1:48:47
One of them's Louie Mangione.
2157
1:48:47
1:48:49
I am totally convinced that there's something wrong
2158
1:48:49
1:48:50
with that story.
2159
1:48:50
1:48:52
Is this ringing a bell?
2160
1:48:53
1:48:55
Candidate for what?
2161
1:48:55
1:48:57
For being MKUltra products.
2162
1:48:59
1:49:00
Oh, I'm not familiar with them, no.
2163
1:49:00
1:49:04
Okay, Ryan Ruth, the attempted assassin.
2164
1:49:06
1:49:08
Oh, you're talking about,
2165
1:49:08
1:49:12
oh, you're talking about the guy
2166
1:49:12
1:49:14
that shot the United Healthcare?
2168
1:49:15
1:49:16
Exactly.
2169
1:49:16
1:49:20
Yeah, Mangione's the guy who shot the United Healthcare guy.
2170
1:49:20
1:49:25
And then probably, and the, certainly I think Crookes was.
2171
1:49:25
1:49:29
The first, the one who's the patsy for.
2172
1:49:29
1:49:31
Thomas Crookes, yeah, Thomas Crookes looked like it.
2173
1:49:31
1:49:33
For the Butler, Pennsylvania shooting.
2174
1:49:33
1:49:36
I mean, he's just classic.
2175
1:49:36
1:49:37
I know.
2176
1:49:38
1:49:40
But whether it'll get uncovered or not,
2177
1:49:40
1:49:41
well, it already has been uncovered.
2178
1:49:41
1:49:44
I mean, George Webb's reporting on it all the time.
2179
1:49:46
1:49:50
So more interesting one, Kamala Harris.
2180
1:49:50
1:49:54
Oh, she, probably all of the people who are,
2181
1:49:54
1:49:56
anyone that looks soulless to you,
2182
1:49:57
1:49:58
if you've ever met Kamala Harris,
2183
1:49:58
1:50:01
there's nothing there.
2184
1:50:01
1:50:03
Yeah, so there's a woman named Elizabeth Nixon
2185
1:50:03
1:50:05
spelled N-I-C-K-S-O-N,
2186
1:50:05
1:50:08
who is Time Magazine's European head.
2187
1:50:08
1:50:12
So she's not a lightweight in journalism.
2188
1:50:12
1:50:15
And her mother, she found out was a victim
2189
1:50:15
1:50:17
of the McGill Group.
2190
1:50:17
1:50:18
And she literally quit her job
2191
1:50:18
1:50:20
and studied MKUltra for three years.
2192
1:50:20
1:50:24
And she started talking about Kamala showing all the traits.
2193
1:50:25
1:50:28
Someone I know very well, Catherine Austin Fitz.
2194
1:50:28
1:50:30
Someone has told me she was a victim
2195
1:50:30
1:50:32
and I haven't yet asked her
2196
1:50:33
1:50:34
what if this rings a bell?
2199
1:50:36
1:50:38
She was, I believe.
2200
1:50:38
1:50:39
And every once in a while,
2201
1:50:39
1:50:42
she says something that's right out of the program.
2202
1:50:43
1:50:47
But she has, she's used it in a very positive way.
2203
1:50:47
1:50:48
Very positive.
2204
1:50:51
1:50:53
I have a question about memories.
2205
1:50:53
1:50:55
This is a tricky thing.
2206
1:50:55
1:50:58
So as you go from having no memories
2207
1:50:58
1:51:01
to having all these memories,
2208
1:51:01
1:51:04
it is notoriously hard to know
2209
1:51:04
1:51:06
when your memories are legitimate
2210
1:51:06
1:51:08
when you've led a normal life,
2211
1:51:08
1:51:10
normal by most people's standards.
2212
1:51:10
1:51:12
And when you're trying to retrieve memories
2213
1:51:12
1:51:16
from such a horrible sort of childhood,
2214
1:51:16
1:51:18
it must be that much more difficult.
2215
1:51:18
1:51:22
Have you ever dug into the challenges that you face?
2216
1:51:22
1:51:23
Because you really could be,
2217
1:51:25
1:51:27
when I listen to Cathy, for example,
2218
1:51:27
1:51:30
I hear a person who simultaneously
2219
1:51:30
1:51:32
went through the trauma that she describes
2220
1:51:32
1:51:37
and now speaks in a language that's very academic
2221
1:51:38
1:51:40
in the sense that it's clear that she's put her memories
2222
1:51:40
1:51:44
in the context of the modern theories of trafficking.
2223
1:51:44
1:51:47
And that kind of blurs the story a little bit.
2224
1:51:47
1:51:49
Do you understand what my point is?
2225
1:51:49
1:51:51
Where else in your trouble,
2226
1:51:51
1:51:55
whether you created a memory or distorted it?
2227
1:51:57
1:52:00
Memories, there's a difference
2228
1:52:01
1:52:04
between memories and something you made up or perceived.
2229
1:52:04
1:52:06
Memories don't change.
2230
1:52:07
1:52:12
And so when I'm remembering being sold by my father,
2231
1:52:12
1:52:14
I remember how the money smelled.
2232
1:52:14
1:52:17
I remember how sweaty I was.
2233
1:52:17
1:52:19
I remember that I was being held faced down
2234
1:52:19
1:52:21
in this smelly sheet,
2235
1:52:21
1:52:23
which I would recognize the smell anywhere.
2236
1:52:23
1:52:28
So there's many more clues rather than just auditory or-
2237
1:52:29
1:52:32
Right, some are too vivid to have been.
2238
1:52:32
1:52:36
Yeah, I know, it just strikes me as a potential problem,
2239
1:52:36
1:52:38
a challenge for someone who's trying to recreate
2240
1:52:38
1:52:41
their past from memories.
2241
1:52:41
1:52:43
Well, I'm trying to tell you.
2242
1:52:43
1:52:45
No, I know, I hear you.
2243
1:52:45
1:52:48
No, you haven't, I haven't answered you yet.
2244
1:52:48
1:52:49
We need to understand, Dave.
2245
1:52:49
1:52:51
We need to understand too.
2246
1:52:53
1:52:55
Yes, I was gonna say that-
2247
1:52:55
1:52:56
Go ahead, Judith.
2248
1:52:56
1:53:01
That there is a technology developed by DARPA
2249
1:53:01
1:53:03
that actually creates memories
2250
1:53:03
1:53:08
because it creates like sounds and visions inside your skull.
2251
1:53:08
1:53:11
And this is a well-known thing that they've done.
2252
1:53:11
1:53:14
So they can create what you would consider false memories.
2253
1:53:14
1:53:18
However, they are, and I've had that done to me.
2254
1:53:18
1:53:23
And I can tell the difference because they're actually,
2255
1:53:23
1:53:26
they're the equivalent of watching something on television
2256
1:53:26
1:53:30
versus something like that experience where I smelled it,
2257
1:53:30
1:53:35
I tasted it, I felt it, it involved my entire body.
2258
1:53:35
1:53:38
And I have total cellular memory of the event.
2259
1:53:38
1:53:42
And certainly in my book, Sparky,
2260
1:53:42
1:53:44
I was drugged a lot of the time.
2261
1:53:44
1:53:48
So the memories are distorted and kind of crazy,
2262
1:53:48
1:53:49
but that's the way it was.
2263
1:53:49
1:53:54
So all I can do is tell you how I experienced something.
2264
1:53:54
1:53:57
And if you read Sparky, you'll know how I experienced it.
2265
1:53:57
1:54:01
And I'm not pretending that I knew all the political things
2266
1:54:01
1:54:03
that were going on or even anything
2267
1:54:03
1:54:08
beyond my little child-sized space.
2268
1:54:08
1:54:11
But I know the difference between what was a memory
2269
1:54:11
1:54:14
and what was told to me or what was inserted,
2270
1:54:14
1:54:16
attempted to insert later.
2271
1:54:16
1:54:17
How old were you, Juliet?
2272
1:54:17
1:54:20
You recall in your memory, how old were you?
2273
1:54:20
1:54:23
I was six when I was sold into the program.
2274
1:54:23
1:54:26
So I start the book Sparky at the age of six.
2275
1:54:26
1:54:30
I was 17 when I escaped from Murphy Hot Springs,
2276
1:54:30
1:54:33
which is now Esalen in Monterey,
2277
1:54:34
1:54:37
and drove myself to the University of Washington,
2278
1:54:38
1:54:40
where I then started my new life.
2279
1:54:41
1:54:43
But in your J.J. Carroll interview,
2280
1:54:43
1:54:45
which I thought was really good,
2281
1:54:46
1:54:48
I thought J.J. Row handled...
2282
1:54:48
1:54:51
Well, J.J.'s been on his own journey,
2283
1:54:51
1:54:54
because when I first started interacting with him,
2284
1:54:54
1:54:56
he was just about the border,
2285
1:54:56
1:54:59
and now his view has expanded dramatically.
2286
1:55:00
1:55:04
But there was a sense that you really started
2287
1:55:04
1:55:09
to retrieve these long lost memories much later in life.
2288
1:55:09
1:55:12
And all of a sudden things were not making...
2289
1:55:12
1:55:13
There were things that were not making sense,
2290
1:55:13
1:55:16
and then the memory started coming back.
2291
1:55:16
1:55:18
I'm just...
2292
1:55:19
1:55:24
It's hard enough for me at 70 to remember stuff,
2293
1:55:26
1:55:28
which admittedly are not as vivid as yours.
2294
1:55:28
1:55:31
Yeah, what about all the drugs you were on, Dave?
2295
1:55:31
1:55:33
Oh yeah, heaven only knows.
2296
1:55:34
1:55:36
So let me ask you another one.
2297
1:55:36
1:55:39
You mentioned the SES in your Carroll interview
2298
1:55:39
1:55:42
that I thought was phenomenally interesting,
2299
1:55:42
1:55:43
but didn't go into detail.
2300
1:55:43
1:55:46
Could you give us a lead into where to read more
2301
1:55:46
1:55:47
about the SES?
2302
1:55:47
1:55:51
Yes, yes, and they have a website as well,
2303
1:55:51
1:55:55
where the SES is Senior Executive Service.
2304
1:55:55
1:56:00
And the MKUltra program supposedly ended
2305
1:56:00
1:56:05
after the Church Commission hearings in Congress in 1976.
2306
1:56:06
1:56:10
It was theoretically discontinued in 77.
2307
1:56:10
1:56:13
I don't believe, of course, that it was,
2308
1:56:13
1:56:15
but that was the official.
2309
1:56:15
1:56:17
They put the dot on it and closed the file
2310
1:56:17
1:56:18
and burned everything.
2311
1:56:18
1:56:21
They destroyed all the records, theoretically.
2312
1:56:21
1:56:25
And then in, I think, 1978, Jimmy Carter signed
2313
1:56:25
1:56:29
the Senior Executive Service into existence,
2314
1:56:29
1:56:32
and suddenly it's populated with all these people
2315
1:56:32
1:56:35
who are then put into high government positions,
2316
1:56:35
1:56:39
moved from agency to agency without any qualifications,
2317
1:56:40
1:56:42
and put in charge.
2318
1:56:42
1:56:47
They're now in charge of 75 government agencies
2319
1:56:47
1:56:51
are headed by SES people who are under control of somebody.
2320
1:56:51
1:56:52
We don't know who.
2321
1:56:52
1:56:54
They cannot be fired.
2322
1:56:54
1:56:57
They get many times the salary
2323
1:56:57
1:57:00
of other people working in projects.
2324
1:57:00
1:57:02
They come in, they disorganize everything.
2325
1:57:02
1:57:04
I've had them come into my projects.
2326
1:57:04
1:57:06
And they just are disruptive.
2327
1:57:06
1:57:08
They're there to make things not work.
2328
1:57:08
1:57:11
So you can look up who these people are.
2329
1:57:11
1:57:15
You can find out the people that Trump tried to fire
2330
1:57:15
1:57:17
in his first time in office
2331
1:57:17
1:57:18
that really should have been fired,
2332
1:57:18
1:57:20
like those guys in the FBI.
2333
1:57:20
1:57:21
Why are they still around?
2334
1:57:21
1:57:23
Why aren't they in prison?
2335
1:57:23
1:57:24
Well, they're SES.
2336
1:57:24
1:57:26
So they cannot be touched.
2337
1:57:26
1:57:27
They cannot be fired.
2338
1:57:27
1:57:28
They're not gonna lose their retirement.
2339
1:57:28
1:57:30
They get million dollar bonuses.
2340
1:57:30
1:57:33
And we're paying for them
2341
1:57:33
1:57:35
while they're working on destroying us.
2342
1:57:35
1:57:39
So you can look them up in the Plum Book.
2343
1:57:39
1:57:42
And somebody just told me there's a new edition
2344
1:57:42
1:57:45
of the Plum Book from like 2024.
2345
1:57:45
1:57:47
That's actually, it's been very hard to use.
2346
1:57:47
1:57:49
They've made it easier to use.
2347
1:57:49
1:57:52
It's Plum, P-L-U-M, book.
2348
1:57:52
1:57:55
And it's called Plum Book because it's a purpley color.
2349
1:57:56
1:57:58
But they also have a website,
2350
1:57:58
1:58:02
seniorexecutiveservice.something.
2351
1:58:02
1:58:05
And they brag about the fact that they run the government.
2352
1:58:06
1:58:08
So is there someone who's written about them
2353
1:58:08
1:58:10
from a less biased view?
2354
1:58:10
1:58:11
No, you don't survive.
2355
1:58:11
1:58:14
No, no, no, you don't talk about them.
2356
1:58:14
1:58:15
You don't survive.
2357
1:58:15
1:58:17
They're extremely dangerous.
2358
1:58:17
1:58:21
So I think it was either you or JJ called them the swamp.
2359
1:58:21
1:58:22
They are the swamp.
2360
1:58:22
1:58:24
The swamp, they are the swamp, yeah.
2361
1:58:24
1:58:25
They are the swamp.
2362
1:58:25
1:58:29
And I believe that's where the MK Ultra graduates
2363
1:58:29
1:58:31
who gave up their souls went.
2364
1:58:33
1:58:37
Because you give up your soul in this process of spinning
2365
1:58:37
1:58:40
and turning to green,
2366
1:58:40
1:58:42
and then you are perpetually rewarded.
2367
1:58:42
1:58:44
You're the singer that can't sing
2368
1:58:44
1:58:45
but sings at the Super Bowl.
2369
1:58:45
1:58:47
You're the movie star that can't act.
2370
1:58:47
1:58:50
You're the government person that runs an agency
2371
1:58:50
1:58:53
without any idea about law enforcement or, you know,
2372
1:58:53
1:58:54
it doesn't matter.
2373
1:58:54
1:58:59
You just get a free ticket to bling money in glory.
2374
1:59:00
1:59:02
Right, okay, thank you.
2375
1:59:02
1:59:03
And there.
2376
1:59:03
1:59:04
Thanks, Dave.
2377
1:59:04
1:59:05
I've got three more questions and then Stephen,
2378
1:59:05
1:59:07
we're finishing in 25 minutes.
2379
1:59:07
1:59:08
Thank you, Dave.
2381
1:59:13
1:59:15
Julius, you explain.
2382
1:59:15
1:59:16
I forgot to turn my audio on.
2383
1:59:16
1:59:17
I'm back on.
2384
1:59:17
1:59:20
All right, so I'm gonna bring up an item
2385
1:59:22
1:59:25
that's in your bio, but you haven't yet mentioned
2386
1:59:25
1:59:26
and to some extent.
2387
1:59:26
1:59:28
So I'm gonna ask you to what degree
2388
1:59:28
1:59:31
it could actually be a key to the solution set,
2389
1:59:31
1:59:36
but also whether or not it not coming up today was in fact,
2390
1:59:36
1:59:41
in part, an agent with paranormal communication mechanisms
2391
1:59:42
1:59:45
attempting to block you from talking about it.
2392
1:59:45
1:59:50
So in your bio, you described the Angel Coalition
2393
1:59:50
1:59:54
and how that went forward to save 70,000 children
2394
1:59:54
1:59:56
in Russian trafficking.
2395
1:59:56
2:00:01
And that you're now looking to start the angels over America
2396
2:00:02
2:00:05
to presumably try to do the same thing
2397
2:00:05
2:00:09
with the over 100,000 children that are trafficked
2398
2:00:09
2:00:10
across the US every year.
2399
2:00:12
2:00:15
Could you describe more around that approach
2400
2:00:15
2:00:18
and other people you're working with to move that forward?
2401
2:00:18
2:00:21
Because that's the kind of thing that I think can encourage
2402
2:00:21
2:00:23
people that are sitting on a sideline and kind of watching,
2403
2:00:23
2:00:26
not getting involved to know that all the children
2404
2:00:26
2:00:31
around them are being attacked, killed and tortured
2405
2:00:31
2:00:33
with sexual trafficking.
2406
2:00:34
2:00:38
Yes, and RFK Jr. just announced that they're gonna go trace
2407
2:00:38
2:00:43
down the 300,000 that were brought into the United States
2408
2:00:43
2:00:44
and disappeared last year.
2409
2:00:44
2:00:46
So these are trafficked into the United States.
2410
2:00:46
2:00:51
We don't even know where from, but this is for me,
2411
2:00:51
2:00:53
this is the key question.
2412
2:00:54
2:00:56
Since I've been back in the United States since 2010
2413
2:00:56
2:00:59
and trying to raise awareness of child trafficking,
2414
2:00:59
2:01:03
trying to get the same kind of motion going
2415
2:01:03
2:01:06
that I was able to do in Russia, it's dead.
2416
2:01:06
2:01:07
There is nothing here.
2417
2:01:07
2:01:08
There's no energy about it.
2418
2:01:08
2:01:09
There's no response.
2419
2:01:09
2:01:11
Government doesn't care.
2420
2:01:12
2:01:14
Law enforcement just threatens me.
2421
2:01:17
2:01:20
Which is why I dug into my own memories and wrote
2422
2:01:20
2:01:23
the painful stories of my own experience
2423
2:01:23
2:01:26
to try and get this out.
2424
2:01:26
2:01:27
But it's mind control.
2425
2:01:27
2:01:29
The whole country is mind controlled.
2426
2:01:29
2:01:34
There's no reason that a population would accept
2427
2:01:34
2:01:37
the extinction pressures on its own children.
2428
2:01:37
2:01:40
I mean, this celebrating abortion,
2429
2:01:40
2:01:44
celebrating pedophilia, celebrating,
2430
2:01:44
2:01:46
I mean, the United Nations has already passed
2431
2:01:47
2:01:51
a resolution in the International, the ICJ,
2433
2:01:53
2:01:57
to make pedophiles a protected population.
2434
2:01:57
2:02:00
So that if the United States and Congress
2435
2:02:00
2:02:04
is considering legislation that would make it illegal
2436
2:02:04
2:02:07
to prosecute pedophiles or even mention them.
2437
2:02:07
2:02:12
So we are that far to promoting our own extinction
2438
2:02:13
2:02:16
by ignoring this problem that as you said,
2439
2:02:16
2:02:19
100,000 of our children are being trafficked
2440
2:02:19
2:02:21
and taken into programs and abused
2441
2:02:21
2:02:24
and turned into adrenochrome and all these awful things.
2442
2:02:24
2:02:27
And 300,000 foreign children are being brought in.
2443
2:02:27
2:02:32
So I mean, we're turning into a sacrificial machine
2444
2:02:32
2:02:35
to destroy our own species.
2445
2:02:35
2:02:38
This is terribly, terribly wrong.
2446
2:02:40
2:02:43
I didn't understand it until COVID,
2447
2:02:43
2:02:48
until the entire population bought this ridiculous vaccine
2448
2:02:49
2:02:54
and it just, and the science is out there,
2449
2:02:54
2:02:57
the information is out there that in the 1970s,
2450
2:02:57
2:03:00
medicine rejected mRNA is unreliable,
2451
2:03:00
2:03:03
dangerous and only good for bio weapons.
2452
2:03:03
2:03:04
That's all out there.
2453
2:03:04
2:03:06
I mean, anybody can find that.
2454
2:03:06
2:03:08
So why?
2455
2:03:08
2:03:11
Because we are mind controlled.
2456
2:03:13
2:03:15
Beautiful, thank you, Glenn.
2457
2:03:15
2:03:18
Could I just tell her about the group
2458
2:03:18
2:03:19
that's launching tomorrow?
2459
2:03:20
2:03:24
So there's a group going through five cities in May.
2460
2:03:25
2:03:29
Their program name is MaydayUSA.co.
2461
2:03:30
2:03:33
Their first launch point is tomorrow in New York City,
2462
2:03:33
2:03:35
then Miami, Houston, Seattle,
2463
2:03:35
2:03:40
and it ends up on May 31st in LA, Hollywood Boulevard.
2464
2:03:41
2:03:42
The center of all of it.
2465
2:03:42
2:03:45
So if that program could really get ramped up
2466
2:03:45
2:03:49
and including you in with it would be tremendous.
2467
2:03:49
2:03:50
Thank you.
2468
2:03:50
2:03:52
Yes, please stay in touch with me
2469
2:03:52
2:03:55
and also you should be connected with New California
2470
2:03:55
2:03:56
if you're not.
2471
2:03:58
2:04:00
I'm not, thank you.
2472
2:04:00
2:04:03
So Glenn, can you put that link into the chat, please?
2473
2:04:03
2:04:04
Yes, I'll do it right now.
2474
2:04:07
2:04:09
All right, and Juliet, have you been able to get
2475
2:04:09
2:04:11
all right and Juliet, have you put your,
2476
2:04:11
2:04:13
you're happy for your email to be in the chat
2477
2:04:13
2:04:15
so people can contact you with suggestions
2478
2:04:15
2:04:16
and the like, I'm sure.
2479
2:04:16
2:04:19
Yes, I put it in there and I'd be glad to do
2480
2:04:19
2:04:21
interviews and talk about this
2481
2:04:21
2:04:25
because I think it is the issue of our time.
2482
2:04:25
2:04:28
Charles, I think it's worth drawing attention
2483
2:04:28
2:04:30
to what Juliet said then.
2484
2:04:31
2:04:34
And I agree with her, I didn't understand it.
2485
2:04:34
2:04:37
She meant mind control until COVID.
2486
2:04:38
2:04:40
COVID was a mind control operation.
2487
2:04:40
2:04:45
Absolutely, so we discovered that through Jason Kristoff
2488
2:04:45
2:04:50
and others, Mathias Desmet and David Sherall-Ambus
2489
2:04:50
2:04:55
in London, but we didn't know, I didn't know the detail,
2490
2:04:55
2:04:58
the MKUltra and I don't think many other people did.
2491
2:04:58
2:05:01
So we did have somebody talking about mind control,
2492
2:05:01
2:05:04
but they didn't know much about MKUltra.
2493
2:05:04
2:05:07
And that's the importance of your testimony
2494
2:05:07
2:05:09
and Cathy's testimony, Juliet.
2495
2:05:10
2:05:12
And in different ways, you're both very good
2496
2:05:12
2:05:14
at explaining things.
2497
2:05:15
2:05:20
All right, Sebastian, then Jim, then Stephen.
2498
2:05:20
2:05:23
Yeah, Juliet, I have two quick questions.
2499
2:05:23
2:05:27
There is a documentary out on one of the streaming services
2500
2:05:27
2:05:32
about Frank Olson, his son is actually in this series.
2501
2:05:33
2:05:37
Did you ever get to hear about that story, meet him,
2502
2:05:37
2:05:41
or were you ever confronted by him?
2503
2:05:41
2:05:45
Well, he was an adult when I was like a teenager,
2504
2:05:45
2:05:48
but his story is actually covered
2505
2:05:48
2:05:51
in the National Archive documents
2506
2:05:51
2:05:54
because he was the death they couldn't hide.
2507
2:05:54
2:05:56
Killing children, they could hide that, killing,
2508
2:05:56
2:06:00
especially immigrant children that were brought in.
2509
2:06:00
2:06:03
Oh, and something that's really interesting here
2510
2:06:03
2:06:08
is that in the mid 19th or the early 1960s,
2511
2:06:08
2:06:10
someone wrote a note to someone else,
2512
2:06:10
2:06:15
I think it was George Hunter writing to his superiors
2513
2:06:16
2:06:19
in the CIA that they had to stop, they had to think about,
2514
2:06:19
2:06:23
they were killing too many American citizens
2515
2:06:23
2:06:26
and damaging too many American citizens.
2516
2:06:26
2:06:27
He said, sooner or later,
2517
2:06:27
2:06:29
some of these kids are gonna grow up in Suez
2518
2:06:30
2:06:32
because like people like me,
2519
2:06:32
2:06:35
we have rights under the Bill of Rights,
2520
2:06:35
2:06:39
but foreign children brought in have no rights.
2521
2:06:39
2:06:42
So in the 1960s, early 1960s is when they started
2522
2:06:42
2:06:45
bringing in kids from all over the world.
2523
2:06:45
2:06:50
And when I had to participate in snuff films
2524
2:06:50
2:06:55
and other Saturn alias and other sacrificial episodes,
2525
2:06:57
2:07:01
and by the way, the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony,
2526
2:07:01
2:07:02
there's the Saturnalia.
2527
2:07:02
2:07:05
So if you can watch that, that's what that was.
2528
2:07:05
2:07:08
And anyway, but they killed children,
2529
2:07:08
2:07:11
but they didn't kill American children anymore.
2530
2:07:12
2:07:15
So, because we could grow up in Suez.
2531
2:07:16
2:07:18
And my other question is you mentioned,
2532
2:07:18
2:07:21
or one of you mentioned that there were rituals
2533
2:07:21
2:07:22
in the book Mein Kampf.
2534
2:07:23
2:07:28
Do you know by any chance what passage that would be?
2535
2:07:28
2:07:32
And what type of rituals were these?
2536
2:07:32
2:07:36
These were long studied rituals
2537
2:07:36
2:07:41
that were sort of the basis for the Nazi ideology,
2538
2:07:43
2:07:48
the belief that they could create God as a man, as a God,
2539
2:07:48
2:07:50
as a man as a God,
2540
2:07:51
2:07:55
that it was possible to defeat God and take over.
2541
2:07:56
2:08:01
But as an adult, I haven't seen a copy of the book.
2542
2:08:01
2:08:03
I can't find a copy of the book.
2543
2:08:03
2:08:08
I know that the copy that was translated into English by,
2544
2:08:09
2:08:12
yes, but that won't be the full book.
2545
2:08:12
2:08:14
See how many words are in that.
2546
2:08:14
2:08:16
Can you read German?
2547
2:08:16
2:08:18
No, no, I can't.
2548
2:08:18
2:08:20
I can read Russian, but I can't read German.
2549
2:08:20
2:08:24
And even the German copies,
2550
2:08:24
2:08:27
I've looked at copies that cost up to $1,200
2551
2:08:27
2:08:30
and they still aren't the full size of the book.
2552
2:08:30
2:08:33
And that was what the lawsuit was based on
2553
2:08:33
2:08:36
when Hitler sued Cranston,
2554
2:08:36
2:08:40
when he translated incorrectly what Hitler had written,
2555
2:08:40
2:08:43
he left out 200,000 words.
2556
2:08:44
2:08:49
So I can't find anyone that has a,
2557
2:08:50
2:08:52
we don't have the real book
2558
2:08:52
2:08:53
and maybe we shouldn't have it.
2559
2:08:53
2:08:56
Maybe we shouldn't ever read these things
2560
2:08:56
2:08:58
and study these things.
2561
2:08:58
2:09:01
Because from what I remember on the beach,
2562
2:09:01
2:09:04
although I was a child and drugged,
2563
2:09:06
2:09:08
there was some pretty scary stuff
2564
2:09:08
2:09:12
and involved communicating extra dimensionally
2565
2:09:12
2:09:14
and extraterrestrially.
2566
2:09:14
2:09:17
And whether it was real or not, I can't say, I don't know.
2567
2:09:19
2:09:20
They believed in us.
2568
2:09:21
2:09:22
Sebastian, do you have a second question?
2569
2:09:22
2:09:24
Was that it?
2570
2:09:24
2:09:25
That was the second question, thanks Charles.
2571
2:09:25
2:09:28
Yeah, thank you, Sebastian.
2572
2:09:28
2:09:29
All right, Jim then Stephen.
2573
2:09:30
2:09:32
Hey, thank you.
2574
2:09:32
2:09:34
The same question that I asked before about
2575
2:09:37
2:09:41
the parasites as a mind control and antidotes,
2576
2:09:41
2:09:46
the HIV moiety GP120
2577
2:09:46
2:09:49
is inside the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
2578
2:09:49
2:09:53
So it only comes alive if the ACE2 attaches
2579
2:09:53
2:09:57
and dissociates in the wild type allegedly,
2580
2:09:57
2:09:59
and possibly in the plasmids.
2581
2:09:59
2:10:02
So this is, it certainly looks like it's
2582
2:10:03
2:10:08
mind control via the shots and then parasite activation,
2583
2:10:09
2:10:12
parasite anti-parasitic hydroxychloroquine,
2584
2:10:12
2:10:16
anti-parasitic ivermectin, anti-parasitic melatonin,
2585
2:10:16
2:10:20
anti-parasitic nitrozoxanide, all blocked from use.
2586
2:10:22
2:10:24
What are your thoughts on the real treatments
2587
2:10:24
2:10:29
for these mind control mechanisms as a physician?
2588
2:10:30
2:10:33
And do you have any idea what they were actually using
2589
2:10:33
2:10:36
in Ms. O'Brien to prevent her from getting HIV
2590
2:10:36
2:10:37
and things like that?
2591
2:10:38
2:10:41
No, but I don't.
2592
2:10:41
2:10:46
And the only way we can do that is to subpoena DARPA.
2593
2:10:47
2:10:49
They know all this.
2594
2:10:49
2:10:50
They have this information.
2595
2:10:50
2:10:51
I live about three miles
2596
2:10:51
2:10:54
from the National Institutes of Health.
2597
2:10:54
2:10:59
It's a huge complex on like two acres, multiple buildings,
2598
2:10:59
2:11:01
all of these centers completely blocked off.
2599
2:11:01
2:11:02
You can't get in there.
2600
2:11:02
2:11:07
You can't, it's an entity unto itself.
2601
2:11:08
2:11:11
And if you could get in there,
2602
2:11:11
2:11:14
you could access their computer logs
2603
2:11:14
2:11:15
and get this information.
2604
2:11:15
2:11:16
They have it.
2605
2:11:16
2:11:18
They don't want us to have it.
2607
2:11:19
2:11:24
What about DTRA, Defense Threat Reduction Agency?
2608
2:11:24
2:11:25
Do you know anything about that
2609
2:11:25
2:11:27
and their supercomputer systems?
2610
2:11:28
2:11:29
They exist, yes.
2611
2:11:29
2:11:34
And so the information is at their fingertips.
2612
2:11:34
2:11:39
So, and that's another exciting thing about this archive
2613
2:11:40
2:11:43
because it's the first time there's been an admission
2614
2:11:43
2:11:45
that these things even happened.
2615
2:11:45
2:11:49
So, you know, I'm not a lawyer.
2616
2:11:49
2:11:52
I'm not familiar with what rights, you know,
2617
2:11:52
2:11:53
we have to get this information
2618
2:11:53
2:11:56
because they would in the past just simply deny it.
2619
2:11:56
2:11:58
Now you can't.
2620
2:11:58
2:12:00
You can't deny that this happened
2621
2:12:00
2:12:01
and that these people were doing these things
2622
2:12:01
2:12:05
and that we need to know more about it.
2623
2:12:05
2:12:08
And have you worked with Warner Mendenhall, Todd Callender,
2624
2:12:08
2:12:10
or some of the other lawyers in terms of telling them
2625
2:12:10
2:12:12
what questions they need to ask
2626
2:12:12
2:12:13
and who they need to subpoena,
2627
2:12:13
2:12:16
especially for these lawsuits that are going forward
2628
2:12:16
2:12:20
because they seem to be being blocked as well.
2629
2:12:22
2:12:23
What are your thoughts on working with these lawyers?
2630
2:12:23
2:12:24
What have you done so far?
2631
2:12:24
2:12:26
What would you like to do?
2632
2:12:26
2:12:30
Well, I'm just about to meet Todd Callender.
2633
2:12:30
2:12:34
So we'll start talking about it.
2634
2:12:34
2:12:36
As I said, I didn't know about these documents
2635
2:12:36
2:12:37
until two months ago.
2636
2:12:37
2:12:40
And it's very hard for me to read through them.
2637
2:12:40
2:12:44
I'm very slow and it keeps, you know,
2638
2:12:44
2:12:46
dredging up my own experiences.
2639
2:12:46
2:12:48
So it's a real chore to get through them.
2640
2:12:49
2:12:52
But I understand the significance.
2641
2:12:52
2:12:53
I know what it means.
2642
2:12:53
2:12:57
And yeah, I'll be talking to everybody I can.
2643
2:12:58
2:13:00
And getting out, and you mentioned names of people
2644
2:13:00
2:13:03
getting out of the program and then helping others
2645
2:13:03
2:13:04
like Catherine Austin Fitz.
2646
2:13:05
2:13:08
How does one get out of the, I guess you just leave,
2647
2:13:08
2:13:10
you walk out, how do you survive?
2648
2:13:10
2:13:12
And how do we get other people out of the program
2649
2:13:12
2:13:15
and then get information from them?
2650
2:13:15
2:13:18
I think people are starting to realize
2651
2:13:18
2:13:19
I'm getting contacted all the time
2652
2:13:19
2:13:21
by people who can't remember their childhood.
2653
2:13:21
2:13:24
There's your clue number one.
2654
2:13:25
2:13:28
And are people who are just starting to remember things
2655
2:13:28
2:13:30
that are just so bizarre, they think they're going mad.
2656
2:13:30
2:13:33
And so I always tell them, you know,
2657
2:13:35
2:13:38
what's coming is gonna affect every aspect of your life
2658
2:13:38
2:13:39
and everyone around you.
2659
2:13:39
2:13:43
So you need to be extremely protective of yourself
2660
2:13:43
2:13:46
and have a good support group around you.
2661
2:13:46
2:13:48
Otherwise you just come completely unglued
2662
2:13:48
2:13:53
because there is a suicide program written into this.
2663
2:13:53
2:13:57
Anyone that starts to remember triggers the suicide program.
2664
2:13:57
2:13:58
And I nearly did it.
2665
2:13:58
2:14:03
And I think that many, many people do.
2666
2:14:03
2:14:05
And I think the 27 Club, you know,
2667
2:14:05
2:14:08
where all these singers and entertainers
2668
2:14:08
2:14:10
commit suicide at the age of 27.
2669
2:14:10
2:14:12
I mean, I was triggered at 27.
2670
2:14:12
2:14:14
I'd been out of the program for 10 years,
2671
2:14:14
2:14:16
but suddenly I started having, you know,
2672
2:14:17
2:14:19
the urge to commit suicide
2673
2:14:19
2:14:23
and having these strange dreams and memories
2674
2:14:23
2:14:25
of what they call the freedom train.
2675
2:14:27
2:14:29
And so it's in there.
2676
2:14:29
2:14:32
So people that start to come out of it have to be aware
2677
2:14:32
2:14:34
that they're gonna be at high risk of suicide
2678
2:14:34
2:14:38
for unexplained reasons or other behaviors.
2679
2:14:38
2:14:40
Like if they were trained as assassins,
2680
2:14:40
2:14:42
it might trigger that.
2681
2:14:42
2:14:45
So getting people out of it
2682
2:14:45
2:14:49
is gonna be extremely difficult.
2683
2:14:51
2:14:56
Suicide, specifically the issue of increased suicide
2684
2:14:56
2:14:58
due to toxoplasmosis.
2685
2:14:58
2:15:02
Documented numerous documentation
2686
2:15:02
2:15:04
about toxoplasmosis causing suicide.
2687
2:15:04
2:15:05
The antidote, you're a physician,
2688
2:15:05
2:15:08
the antidote to toxoplasmosis is called,
2689
2:15:08
2:15:12
one of them is called daraprim, pyrimethamine.
2690
2:15:12
2:15:15
Daraprim Pharma Bro, Martin Shkreli
2691
2:15:15
2:15:18
took the price of daraprim up to $750 a pill.
2692
2:15:18
2:15:19
Remember that?
2693
2:15:19
2:15:21
That's for toxo.
2694
2:15:21
2:15:23
He went to jail, but the toxoplasmosis medication
2695
2:15:23
2:15:26
still remains up at $750 a pill.
2696
2:15:26
2:15:28
That seems to be an intelligence operation
2697
2:15:28
2:15:30
to keep the price of this,
2698
2:15:30
2:15:34
one of the antidotes for this mind control parasite,
2699
2:15:34
2:15:37
toxoplasmosis high, and then preventing us
2700
2:15:37
2:15:41
from getting the next best is nidazoxanide, it seems,
2701
2:15:41
2:15:44
which the price of that is actually $1,000 as well
2702
2:15:44
2:15:46
per six pills.
2703
2:15:46
2:15:49
Anyway, thoughts on that and thoughts on,
2704
2:15:49
2:15:51
have you ever used it and have you ever used it successfully
2705
2:15:51
2:15:54
on undoing the suicidality
2706
2:15:54
2:15:56
through an MK-Ultra program, D-Tenney?
2707
2:15:57
2:16:01
No, I was in Russia working with an underground railroad
2708
2:16:01
2:16:03
and doing anti-trafficking work,
2709
2:16:03
2:16:07
so I have not done the medical aspects of any of this.
2710
2:16:07
2:16:11
I think the Pharma Bro guy was definitely an MK-Ultra plant,
2711
2:16:11
2:16:16
and I think his whole scheme was deliberate.
2712
2:16:16
2:16:19
I noticed that he wasn't in jail for more than a few months,
2713
2:16:19
2:16:22
so I wonder if he's in the Plum Book.
2714
2:16:22
2:16:24
And I'll make the observation, Jim,
2715
2:16:24
2:16:28
Jim, you're ignoring what Cathy said, okay?
2716
2:16:30
2:16:33
Soul is greater than genetics.
2717
2:16:33
2:16:37
Therefore, soul is greater than all of this toxicity.
2719
2:16:38
2:16:40
So don't discount that.
2720
2:16:40
2:16:42
I don't buy anything from anybody in this room.
2721
2:16:42
2:16:44
No, I don't, but as a physician,
2722
2:16:44
2:16:49
one of the things people rely on is medication appropriately.
2723
2:16:49
2:16:50
No, as a physician.
2724
2:16:50
2:16:53
See, you're now reverting back to say,
2725
2:16:53
2:16:55
oh, there's only one way to do this.
2726
2:16:55
2:16:58
Michelle Perrow mentioned links in here for homeopathics.
2727
2:16:58
2:17:00
Soul is greater than genetics.
2728
2:17:00
2:17:03
Therefore, it's greater than all toxicity.
2729
2:17:04
2:17:07
Okay, let's go to, let's thank, but great point to raise,
2730
2:17:07
2:17:10
and one of the things I take, I've been talking about,
2731
2:17:10
2:17:13
I take large quantities of vitamin C to help my body.
2732
2:17:13
2:17:16
If I could access my soul's ability,
2733
2:17:16
2:17:18
I wouldn't need any of this vitamin C.
2734
2:17:18
2:17:19
All right, let's go to Stephen,
2735
2:17:19
2:17:21
because we've only got 10 minutes left.
2736
2:17:22
2:17:27
So, Julia, thank you so much for speaking to us tonight,
2737
2:17:27
2:17:30
and I can hear the pain in your voice sometimes.
2738
2:17:31
2:17:34
And Cathy, you said you thought
2739
2:17:34
2:17:38
had processed things better than you,
2740
2:17:38
2:17:40
and maybe that's reflected in your testimony,
2741
2:17:40
2:17:44
because your testimony is kind of, as I see it anyway,
2742
2:17:44
2:17:48
the raw memories, and I think her testimony,
2743
2:17:51
2:17:53
is possibly the kind of testimony you gave
2744
2:17:53
2:17:58
after you've been deprogrammed, or, you know,
2745
2:17:58
2:18:00
had treatments, extensive treatments,
2746
2:18:00
2:18:03
which has worked in the sense
2747
2:18:03
2:18:07
that she feels a lot better than she did, I think.
2748
2:18:07
2:18:10
But I do understand what, I think Dave Colum was talking,
2749
2:18:10
2:18:14
so he's a professor of chemistry at the Naive League University,
2750
2:18:14
2:18:16
and I think that he was talking about
2751
2:18:17
2:18:20
memories and perceptions.
2752
2:18:20
2:18:23
So perceptions are not quite the same as memories,
2753
2:18:23
2:18:25
as I understand it. Is that what you're saying, Dave?
2754
2:18:29
2:18:32
I'm not sure what I'm saying, because I,
2755
2:18:32
2:18:35
what the phrase I once heard is that we reach a point
2756
2:18:35
2:18:37
where we remember memories.
2757
2:18:38
2:18:43
And so, I have this vivid memory,
2758
2:18:43
2:18:45
and I'm speaking of a normal person.
2759
2:18:45
2:18:47
I'm speaking of a person who hasn't been through trauma.
2760
2:18:47
2:18:49
I don't understand the trauma world at all.
2761
2:18:50
2:18:52
But the neuropsychologists say that it's,
2762
2:18:53
2:18:56
that memories do get distorted with time,
2763
2:18:56
2:18:59
and I was sort of trying to get at the point of
2764
2:18:59
2:19:03
retrieving memories that have been really blocked out,
2765
2:19:03
2:19:04
must be a whole different world.
2766
2:19:04
2:19:06
And I think you were making the point that
2767
2:19:06
2:19:11
Cathy was using language, which, yeah, okay.
2768
2:19:12
2:19:13
So you can hear it.
2769
2:19:13
2:19:15
So let's say you start having these memories,
2770
2:19:15
2:19:19
and you start digging into why.
2771
2:19:19
2:19:21
It turns out you put your memories
2772
2:19:21
2:19:23
into this intellectual framework.
2773
2:19:23
2:19:26
Absolutely, that's what I understood you were saying.
2774
2:19:26
2:19:28
And so then you're at the risk of,
2775
2:19:28
2:19:32
you're at risk of the framework dictating
2776
2:19:34
2:19:35
the memory if you're not careful.
2777
2:19:35
2:19:36
I understand that.
2778
2:19:36
2:19:37
Yes, I understand.
2779
2:19:37
2:19:42
The way it happens is that when you break down that,
2780
2:19:42
2:19:45
you'll start seeing like hints when,
2781
2:19:45
2:19:49
after I talked to JJ in that interview, that long interview,
2782
2:19:50
2:19:52
I was already, while I was sitting there talking to him,
2783
2:19:52
2:19:54
I was starting to see the beach at Rosarita.
2784
2:19:54
2:19:58
I was starting to remember being naked on the beach
2785
2:19:58
2:20:02
and all the color of, I got very, very dark.
2786
2:20:02
2:20:04
My hair was all matted with salt.
2787
2:20:04
2:20:06
They actually had to shave it off eventually.
2788
2:20:06
2:20:10
And then when my parents came to pick me up,
2789
2:20:10
2:20:12
because they dropped me off,
2790
2:20:12
2:20:13
left me there for two weeks to a month,
2791
2:20:13
2:20:17
I don't know how long, and they took me back to California.
2792
2:20:17
2:20:20
I was dressed white people in a car with a little kid
2793
2:20:20
2:20:22
who's naked and looks like a Mexican.
2794
2:20:22
2:20:25
And that's what I remembered.
2795
2:20:25
2:20:30
I remembered my fear of the only clothes I had on.
2796
2:20:30
2:20:31
I had on my father's shirt.
2797
2:20:31
2:20:33
So he didn't have a shirt.
2798
2:20:33
2:20:35
So he was driving without a shirt
2799
2:20:35
2:20:38
and they took me across the border.
2800
2:20:38
2:20:41
And of course, we were stopped by border control
2801
2:20:41
2:20:43
and the border patrol guy looked at me and said,
2802
2:20:43
2:20:43
who's that?
2803
2:20:44
2:20:46
And my father turned around and looked at me
2804
2:20:46
2:20:50
like he had never seen me before in his life.
2805
2:20:50
2:20:52
Neither one of my parents could remember my name
2806
2:20:52
2:20:55
or my birthday or anything about me.
2807
2:20:57
2:21:00
So I remember that horrifying moment
2808
2:21:00
2:21:03
when I realized that they might just leave me there.
2809
2:21:05
2:21:07
And that's when almost,
2810
2:21:07
2:21:09
I think that's the moment I became an adult
2811
2:21:09
2:21:12
because I started talking like an adult.
2812
2:21:12
2:21:14
I identified myself.
2813
2:21:14
2:21:15
I gave my birthday.
2814
2:21:15
2:21:16
I gave their birthdays.
2815
2:21:16
2:21:19
I gave our, I just talked my way out of it
2816
2:21:19
2:21:21
and they took my parents out of the car.
2817
2:21:21
2:21:26
So I had that memory, but the rest of it
2818
2:21:26
2:21:29
as to why I was there, who I'd been with
2819
2:21:29
2:21:32
or who those people were or what that book was,
2820
2:21:32
2:21:35
that came when I got that visceral,
2821
2:21:37
2:21:40
horrible memory of being stuck at the border
2822
2:21:40
2:21:42
and thinking they were gonna leave me there.
2823
2:21:42
2:21:45
So that was a memory.
2824
2:21:45
2:21:49
So and assembling the name of the book
2825
2:21:49
2:21:51
or who the people's names were,
2826
2:21:51
2:21:54
I remember the people, but it took,
2827
2:21:54
2:21:57
that takes some construction.
2828
2:21:57
2:22:01
So you have to start digging and constructing
2829
2:22:01
2:22:05
and who was there, what was the name of the place and that.
2830
2:22:05
2:22:07
So there's both going on.
2831
2:22:07
2:22:08
Does that answer the question?
2832
2:22:08
2:22:10
Well, it kind of does.
2833
2:22:10
2:22:15
Actually, Annika Lucas did a podcast with Patrick Bette David
2834
2:22:15
2:22:19
and she was handled by David Rockefeller,
2835
2:22:19
2:22:21
but it never said so.
2836
2:22:21
2:22:24
And Patrick Bette David somehow pieced together
2837
2:22:24
2:22:28
that conclusion and pressured her.
2838
2:22:28
2:22:30
And she got very upset
2839
2:22:30
2:22:31
because she didn't wanna say the name
2840
2:22:31
2:22:33
and then she said the name
2841
2:22:33
2:22:36
and you could see it was really distressing for her.
2842
2:22:36
2:22:40
But in her narrative, she also talked about
2843
2:22:40
2:22:42
how she didn't know who it was,
2844
2:22:42
2:22:45
but she was surrounded by Rockefeller
2845
2:22:45
2:22:47
and his servants and everything.
2846
2:22:47
2:22:49
And I was having trouble picturing
2847
2:22:49
2:22:53
how you would exist so much with David Rockefeller
2848
2:22:53
2:22:56
and not know his name was David Rockefeller.
2849
2:22:56
2:22:58
That was the thing I do.
2850
2:22:59
2:23:00
Okay, that's what I'm,
2851
2:23:00
2:23:02
I'm just trying to understand how the memory works.
2852
2:23:02
2:23:07
So I'm just, it's an interesting neuropsychological problem
2853
2:23:07
2:23:11
is how we retrieve and things like that.
2854
2:23:11
2:23:12
Well, if she was told repeatedly,
2855
2:23:12
2:23:14
if she ever said his name, she'd be killed
2856
2:23:14
2:23:17
or family would be killed, she'd be tortured.
2857
2:23:17
2:23:19
You could block that very specifically,
2858
2:23:19
2:23:23
but you can't block the memory of large forms around you.
2859
2:23:23
2:23:24
Right, right.
2860
2:23:24
2:23:25
And so I could get to that,
2861
2:23:25
2:23:28
but then getting to the specifics.
2862
2:23:28
2:23:30
Juliet, when you were coming back from Mexico
2863
2:23:30
2:23:31
with your parents,
2864
2:23:32
2:23:33
three weeks after they left you on the beach,
2865
2:23:33
2:23:35
is that correct?
2866
2:23:35
2:23:37
Or in Mexico, you were coming back
2867
2:23:37
2:23:39
and you got to border control
2868
2:23:39
2:23:42
and the border control people said, who's that?
2869
2:23:42
2:23:44
You were looking like a Mexican
2870
2:23:44
2:23:47
because you'd been on the beach for three weeks
2871
2:23:47
2:23:48
as I understand it.
2872
2:23:48
2:23:51
And your parents presumably didn't look Mexican.
2873
2:23:51
2:23:54
So the, how did your parents answer that question?
2874
2:23:54
2:23:55
How did your father, he didn't.
2875
2:23:55
2:23:57
He didn't.
2876
2:23:57
2:24:00
He like pretended he'd never seen me before in his life.
2877
2:24:00
2:24:02
Well, why would he do that?
2878
2:24:02
2:24:04
Because then, okay.
2879
2:24:04
2:24:08
So how did the border agent let you into America then?
2880
2:24:09
2:24:11
I identified myself, I identified them,
2881
2:24:11
2:24:13
I identified our address.
2882
2:24:15
2:24:16
I was seven years old,
2883
2:24:16
2:24:19
but I was more mature than they were
2884
2:24:19
2:24:21
in a lot of ways in my mind.
2885
2:24:21
2:24:23
So if you're seven years old, Juliet,
2886
2:24:23
2:24:25
and the border guard's asking your father
2887
2:24:25
2:24:28
and he says he doesn't know who the seven year old girl
2888
2:24:28
2:24:31
in the back of the car is wearing his shirt,
2889
2:24:31
2:24:36
isn't that gonna get him into trouble in his mind?
2890
2:24:36
2:24:37
They took him out of the car
2891
2:24:38
2:24:40
and they took my mother out of the car.
2892
2:24:40
2:24:41
They were gone for quite a while.
2893
2:24:42
2:24:46
And then we were allowed to go back and that's all I know.
2894
2:24:46
2:24:47
I imagine some phone calls were made.
2895
2:24:47
2:24:50
And since I was in Mexico
2896
2:24:50
2:24:54
with high level politicians from California,
2897
2:24:54
2:24:57
I imagine some calls went through and...
2899
2:24:58
2:24:59
Very good.
2900
2:24:59
2:25:02
Thank you so much for answering that question.
2901
2:25:02
2:25:06
So I didn't, you said I didn't understand it,
2902
2:25:06
2:25:08
i.e. the mind control until COVID.
2903
2:25:08
2:25:12
Could you briefly explain what you meant by that?
2904
2:25:12
2:25:15
Well, the whole COVID thing when it started,
2905
2:25:15
2:25:17
I thought, well, this'll be nothing.
2906
2:25:20
2:25:25
And the look people would get when even talking about it,
2907
2:25:26
2:25:27
the sort of starry eyed look,
2908
2:25:27
2:25:30
sort of like they used to get when talking about Obama,
2909
2:25:30
2:25:35
you know, like, oh, you know, there's a difference.
2910
2:25:35
2:25:38
They like switched into something else.
2911
2:25:38
2:25:43
And when the vaccine started and it was based in mRNA,
2912
2:25:43
2:25:46
and I explained to all my friends what mRNA was
2913
2:25:46
2:25:48
and why you shouldn't take it and cytokine storms
2914
2:25:48
2:25:52
and all these protein shedding and all these things that...
2915
2:25:52
2:25:55
And I had all the literature and everything.
2916
2:25:55
2:25:56
Nobody listened.
2917
2:25:56
2:25:58
My own family wouldn't listen.
2918
2:25:58
2:26:03
And it just grew on me
2919
2:26:03
2:26:06
that clearly the entire population,
2920
2:26:06
2:26:09
or at least everyone that has taken this vaccine,
2921
2:26:09
2:26:11
is mind control.
2922
2:26:11
2:26:14
They've been trained to do this.
2923
2:26:14
2:26:16
They've been taught to do this.
2924
2:26:16
2:26:17
They've been programmed to do this.
2925
2:26:17
2:26:19
And they're killing themselves.
2926
2:26:19
2:26:22
And that this is the genocide agenda.
2927
2:26:22
2:26:23
It was clear to me.
2928
2:26:23
2:26:28
And I realized I've got to remember my own MKL for training.
2929
2:26:28
2:26:31
I've got to remember what they said and what they did.
2930
2:26:31
2:26:33
And it was all about genocide.
2931
2:26:33
2:26:35
From the beginning.
2932
2:26:35
2:26:36
But the point is about that.
2933
2:26:36
2:26:39
If they're mind controlled, Juliet,
2934
2:26:39
2:26:43
you understand that actually they've lost their mind.
2935
2:26:43
2:26:44
They've lost their soul.
2936
2:26:45
2:26:48
And this is really important for people to understand
2937
2:26:48
2:26:52
because the perpetrators have to be held to account
2938
2:26:52
2:26:53
for what happened in 2020.
2939
2:26:53
2:26:56
So my next question is the finishing question.
2940
2:26:56
2:26:58
Does Trump know about this?
2941
2:26:58
2:26:59
And if he doesn't know about it,
2942
2:26:59
2:27:01
how can we get this to him?
2943
2:27:01
2:27:03
But without giving too much away.
2944
2:27:05
2:27:08
I don't know if he knows.
2945
2:27:08
2:27:11
Sometimes he says one thing, he sounds like one thing.
2946
2:27:11
2:27:13
And sometimes he says another.
2947
2:27:15
2:27:17
Some people have told me they've talked to him about this,
2948
2:27:17
2:27:19
but I don't know because I haven't.
2950
2:27:22
2:27:23
I don't know.
2951
2:27:23
2:27:28
I think that RFK might be the one actually to talk to.
2952
2:27:28
2:27:29
That he might be more.
2955
2:27:32
2:27:32
Because he's actually interested in the-
2956
2:27:32
2:27:33
I think both.
2957
2:27:33
2:27:35
The thing about Trump that's very interesting
2958
2:27:35
2:27:38
is that nobody knows what's going on in his head
2959
2:27:38
2:27:40
about anything.
2960
2:27:40
2:27:41
And that's his big strength.
2961
2:27:41
2:27:43
That's why he's a brilliant negotiator
2962
2:27:43
2:27:47
and why he can do all these deals as he puts it.
2963
2:27:47
2:27:49
I do believe that he's capable.
2964
2:27:49
2:27:52
He's also very good at connecting with people.
2965
2:27:52
2:27:57
He's extremely polite to people who are far,
2966
2:27:57
2:27:59
obviously he's the president of the United States,
2967
2:28:00
2:28:01
but far less powerful than him.
2968
2:28:01
2:28:05
He's extremely polite and he knows how to be nice to people
2969
2:28:05
2:28:07
and get on the right side of them.
2970
2:28:07
2:28:09
And that's a real skill.
2971
2:28:09
2:28:13
But he's also brilliant at not giving his,
2972
2:28:13
2:28:14
what he knows away.
2973
2:28:14
2:28:16
So you never know what he knows.
2974
2:28:16
2:28:20
And that's also important because at the right time
2975
2:28:20
2:28:21
he may speak out about anything
2976
2:28:21
2:28:23
and that keeps people on their toes.
2977
2:28:23
2:28:27
So I'm not saying that I expect him to save all of us,
2978
2:28:27
2:28:29
he gives people hope around the world.
2979
2:28:29
2:28:32
And at the moment I think he's authentic.
2980
2:28:32
2:28:36
I haven't, he makes mistakes, but we all make mistakes.
2981
2:28:37
2:28:42
He gets the MRNA wrong, the AI wrong, he gets Gaza wrong.
2982
2:28:43
2:28:46
But overall he's done great things
2983
2:28:46
2:28:50
and diversity and equity and inclusion is one of those.
2984
2:28:50
2:28:52
And the trans thing is another.
2985
2:28:52
2:28:55
I think that he would be open to hearing your testimony,
2986
2:28:55
2:28:56
Juliette and Kathy's.
2987
2:28:57
2:28:59
Well, I think one of the most positive things he's done
2988
2:28:59
2:29:03
is end USAID because that's how they were funding all this.
2989
2:29:03
2:29:04
Yes, I agree.
2990
2:29:04
2:29:06
And maybe he knew that.
2991
2:29:06
2:29:08
Yeah, of course he knew that.
2992
2:29:08
2:29:11
That tells me he did know it because IOM is-
2993
2:29:11
2:29:12
All right.
2994
2:29:13
2:29:17
Our time is up and great question to close, Steven
2995
2:29:17
2:29:22
and Juliette, thank you so much for being with us
2996
2:29:22
2:29:23
for two and a half hours.
2997
2:29:23
2:29:25
Again, I criticize you like I do,
2998
2:29:25
2:29:27
many of my guests that you should have gone
2999
2:29:27
2:29:29
to the toilet by now, so you're not drinking enough water.
3000
2:29:29
2:29:32
So drink more water, okay?
3001
2:29:33
2:29:37
And on behalf of all of us, thank you.
3002
2:29:37
2:29:39
The information you've shared is so important.
3003
2:29:39
2:29:43
Each one of us, we must do what each one of us sees
3004
2:29:43
2:29:44
needs to be done.
3005
2:29:44
2:29:46
So there's not, doesn't need a group action.
3006
2:29:46
2:29:49
Whatever any one of us can do to promote this.
3007
2:29:49
2:29:52
And I'm really struck, but I'm involved
3008
2:29:52
2:29:55
in three organizations, anti-trafficking,
3009
2:29:55
2:29:59
and I'm struck Juliette by your great work over in Russia
3010
2:29:59
2:30:03
to then get no energy on this topic
3011
2:30:03
2:30:05
when you found in America.
3012
2:30:05
2:30:07
So that's salutary for us to understand.
3013
2:30:07
2:30:12
It reinforces the message that these tentacles go deep
3014
2:30:12
2:30:15
and our job now that we know it is to do something with it.
3015
2:30:15
2:30:18
So let's get on the job everybody.
3016
2:30:18
2:30:19
Thank you, Steven.
3017
2:30:19
2:30:20
Thank you, Juliette.
3018
2:30:20
2:30:22
Please pass on to, we always thank Cathy.
3019
2:30:22
2:30:24
So we'll get the recording to you
3020
2:30:24
2:30:29
and we will have this up within 12 hours on the site
3021
2:30:29
2:30:32
and share these messages everybody, Juliette.
3022
2:30:32
2:30:35
Charles, I sent you the link to the archive.
3023
2:30:36
2:30:38
I emailed it to you.
3024
2:30:38
2:30:40
I put that into the chat already.
3025
2:30:40
2:30:41
Yes, okay, great.
3026
2:30:41
2:30:43
Charles, I just want to tell Astrid
3027
2:30:43
2:30:45
that I'll be in contact with her.
3028
2:30:45
2:30:47
So she could look out for her emails.
3029
2:30:48
2:30:50
Okay, Astrid, I'll take note.
3030
2:30:50
2:30:52
Yes, I will look into it.
3031
2:30:52
2:30:54
Thank you for telling me.
3032
2:30:54
2:30:54
Thank you so much.
3033
2:30:54
2:30:55
That's good.
3034
2:30:55
2:30:57
Okay, thanks everybody.
3035
2:30:57
2:30:58
Can we get the chat?
3036
2:30:58
2:30:59
Thanks everybody.
3037
2:30:59
2:31:00
Go to the Tom Rodman group,
3038
2:31:00
2:31:02
those of you who have unlimited time
3039
2:31:02
2:31:03
and we'll see you again next Tuesday.
3040
2:31:03
2:31:06
Charles, Astrid is asking whether she can get the chat.
3041
2:31:06
2:31:08
I was trying to download the chat, but I can't.
3042
2:31:08
2:31:11
So there are lots of links there.
3043
2:31:12
2:31:14
If you send me an email, I'll get it to you.
3044
2:31:14
2:31:16
Oh, okay, thanks so much.
3045
2:31:16
2:31:18
All right, thanks Juliette.
3046
2:31:18
2:31:19
Great job.
3048
2:31:20
2:31:21
Thank you so much.
3049
2:31:21
2:31:24
And you got 30 years of work ahead of you, Juliette.
3050
2:31:24
2:31:28
So don't you dare think of retirement.
3051
2:31:28
2:31:30
I'm not suicidal.
3052
2:31:30
2:31:33
Juliette, this must have been really difficult for you.
3053
2:31:33
2:31:35
Were we better or worse than you thought?
3054
2:31:36
2:31:38
Beforehand, I mean.
3055
2:31:38
2:31:40
I've actually looked at some of your recordings
3056
2:31:40
2:31:41
that I got from Daria.
3057
2:31:41
2:31:43
So I knew that you were wonderful.
3058
2:31:44
2:31:46
Aha, that was taking a compliment.
3059
2:31:46
2:31:47
Thank you.
3061
2:31:49
2:31:50
Thank you.
3062
2:31:50
2:31:52
Stop there, we're winning, Stephen, we're winning.
3063
2:31:54
2:31:55
That's very nice.
3064
2:31:55
2:31:55
That's how you were hit.
3065
2:31:55
2:31:56
Thank you.
3066
2:31:56
2:31:57
All right, we're going.
3067
2:31:57
2:31:58
Bye everybody.
3068
2:31:59
2:32:01
Bye, God bless everyone.
3069
2:32:01
2:32:03
Happy May. God bless.
3070
2:32:03
2:32:03
Thank you.