Hello everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and today's

discussion this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost over three years ago, almost four years

ago with the desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.

Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower

and activist his medical special is radiology.

At this time we remember Ryan Ofulmik and we'll make an announcement about Ryan Ofulmik

but he is currently unlawfully incarcerated by the German government in a German jail

undergoing a German court show trial having been unlawfully kidnapped by the German government

in October 2023.

In Mexico.

In Mexico.

And it's an outrageous, it's an outrageous imposition and behaviour by the German government

and everybody should be aware of it.

And we've got lots to tell you more at the a bit later today.

And it was indeed in Mexico.

I'm Charles Covets the moderator of this group.

I practice law for 20 years and for 14 years I've helped parents and lawyers to strategise

remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice.

I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company and mark my words industrial hemp is going

to be a massive positive impact on humanity in the next few years to come.

We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world.

By the way Scott Sharer who Jerome is running the case in Wisconsin against Wisconsin Health

for the murder of his daughter Grace Sharer is also in the Wisconsin legal system for

what it's worth everybody and Scottish Fighting a wonderful fight has presented to this group before.

Many of us thought in the past that vaccines were okay now many of us proudly say yes we

are passionate anti-vaxxers and indeed I am a passionate anti-vaxxer and Dr Stanley Plotkin

the so-called godfather of childhood vaccines in America has admitted in his deposition

nine-hour deposition before Aaron Ciri lawyer that no vaccine ever has been properly tested

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to our guest presenter Bobo Sundgren and we thank you Bobo for giving us your time

and sharing your story and for the purposes of the recording I will give you a little bit of

background in your own words no in your own words you are a Swedish author ethnologist and

activist known for your book How I became one of Sweden's worst internet trolls.

Nicholas was born with a heart defect and underwent a liver transplant and he was jabbed

with the COVID jabs and Bobo is going to tell us about his journey in vindicating and fighting

back against Nicholas's case. He'll tell us about the prosecutor and today Bobo advocates for informed

consent and medical accountability as do we in this call through various platforms including

Substack and Facebook as well as through live lectures and public talks so welcome Bobo and

thank you Stephen Frost again for creating this group and for organizing Bobo to be with our to

have Bobo speak to us today and Stephen who helped us get Bobo today? Well Celia Farber and

Lars Johansson. That's right very good all right so thank you Stephen welcome Bobo good to have you

here and your story is a is a heart-wrenching one so over to you we're all yours and and look forward

to hearing from you and discussing with you. Charles I just want to say that Bobo knows amongst

other things about Olaf Palma's death assassination but also how Trump was elected in 2016 using I

can't remember but he knows all about tech he's one of these extraordinary Swedes who kind of

buck the system if you like which is you know everybody trusting that but Bobo

knows a lot and so they've got a real problem now because they've got criminal investigation

involving his 13 year old son who died in 2021 from memory sorry 2022 oh sorry 2022 all over

to you let's we look forward to listening to you thank you so much for the introduction and

thank you for having me it's an honor and I've been waiting for this longing for it

because you have so much expertise and that is exactly what I need and have been needing through

the process. Am I coming through? Yes Bobo we can hear you loud and clear. Good so

Nikolas my son he was born 2008 with heart malformations in latin they are called truncus

arteriosus and they're also called interrupted aortic arch of course I don't know so much about it

but I know that the surgeon that did a fantastic job was Peter Jögin in Lund and he did this

fantastic job three days after Nikolas was born in Halmstad in Sweden so it was a shock of course

for us me and Nikolas mother and at the same time we felt very blessed that we were in Sweden

and we were taken care of and Nikolas was taken care of by the best surgeons in the world

we felt it in the air we saw them walking past us in the corridors they are often very tall

and they looked like gods to us and they were in fact gods because they saved our son

and we were so grateful for that six months more or less six seven months later Nikolas

had his liver transplanted he started to get sick when he was

maybe three months four months old and as the malformation of the heart was unexplained

as the malformation of the heart was unexplained

the liver problem was also unexplained they did send samples to Switzerland

for a genetic research but they didn't find anything they didn't find any clue for anything

for anything so it was a big mystery

and of course we were shocked again and we practically lived at the hospital for

Nikolas first year so we were conditioned to trust the health care and to trust certain

figures there certain persons certain doctors certain nurses they followed Nikolas

all through his life from he was a baby to to his death the same persons for example the nurse

the nurse

that we went to for blood samples all through his life was actually the nurse that gave him

the second shot of Moderna's COVID vaccine sounds like I'm making it up but it's actually true

and we had a feeling that she loved him she actually visited him when he was deadly sick

and before I go into that I want to give a background from the summer of 2021

summer of 2021 I am sure that all of us don't want to think about that year

but all of us sitting here forces ourselves we forces we are forcing ourselves to think about

that year and the year before and the years after and the horror

that evil forces put upon us

the summer of 2021

my mother

told me that I had to take the COVID vaccine in order to live with her at the summer place

because we had nowhere else to go because our landlord that owned the house where we lived

me and my children she wanted to live one month a year in her house and we had to go elsewhere

that month and my mother's place her summer's place were well it was the only option so I

although I was a little bit skeptical I took the COVID vaccine and it was Pfizer's community

and this was six months after it was conditionally approved

and in my naivety I thought that mainstream media should have alerted us

if there was something really wrong with it

I was a little bit skeptical all along

I was skeptical when I saw people falling fainting in Wuhan and China falling on the street

falling on the street I was skeptical when I read our government's recommendations

our authorities recommendations to give morphine to our elderly at the elderly homes

when they showed symptoms of COVID I felt very bad about that and this was springtime 2020

so a year I had different skeptical thoughts about the whole pandemic show

but I fell for my mother's fear and I took the COVID vaccine and in August the 23rd of August

a nurse called us from the intestinal section at

Drottning Silviats barnsjukhus it's Queen Silviats Children's Hospital in Göteborg Gothenburg

and she called us and she said very cautiously well

Niklas should have the COVID vaccine and we are wondering what time is good for you etc.

and I was a little bit I was surprised

but at the same time as I said I was very conditioned to trust the health care and the

specific this specific section of the hospital so I immediately said well yes of course no problem

I didn't hesitate and she as I later understood because of former reasons asked me

because of former reasons asked me

what does Niklas think about the vaccine I was a little bit surprised because I was conditioned

also to always take full responsibility of his health care all this care you know and I said

well I don't think he has a problem with that and in the back of my mind

I had various thoughts and feelings one thought was

that I don't want to go against the society because of the risk that they will question me as a parent

and social authorities etc. would come at me and take my children away

that sounds hysterical but it was a hysterical time the mass hysteria was very

all around and in mainstream media in our newspapers in Sweden our

ministers said stuff like we will find out who is not taking the vaccine and we will register them

and we will find out what their habits are and why they are not taking the vaccine etc.

so I felt a little bit scared to go against society but it was also it was mainly that I was

conditioned to trust the health care and I was thinking why should I read on the internet

I was thinking why should I read on the internet although that was my habit to read a lot on the

internets in this issue I was thinking why should I trust some weirdos on the internet

instead of the health care and the personnel the doctors and nurses that saved my son when he was

a baby also Nicholas had his humograph replaced when he was 11 years old 2019 in August

some more background what I didn't know

was that already in July the 9th of July the World Health Organization

gave directions to health care all over the world to warn about myocarditis and pericarditis

pericarditis

as a adverse event from the COVID vaccines the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna

but we were not warned at all

so there were no informed consent

and

the second thing is that they gave me Moderna's COVID vaccine that had that I've understood have

more mRNA molecules in it this kind of synthetic replicants of mRNA molecules in it

the Moderna is more concentrated and the people's the Sweden's public health agency

actually stopped Moderna's COVID vaccine for everybody born 1991 and later the 6th of October

the 4th of October the Swedish public health agency gave a press release

of the Moderna vaccine and the first shot was taken on the 6th of September 2021

and the second one the 4th of October the 4th of October the Swedish public health agency

the Swedish public health agency gave a press release that stated that children should only have

Pfizer's COVID vaccine this was totally ignored by Queen Silvia's children's hospital

as well as they didn't give any chance for an informed consent and they did not do an

individual assessment as the Swedish Pediatric Society urged them to do in their recommendation

the Swedish Pediatric Society was springtime 2021 against giving COVID vaccine to children

but they changed their mind about specific groups among them transplanted children

from 12 years up during the summer and that's why they called us I learned this later

that's why the hospital called us because of the decision from both Swedish Pediatric Society and

the Swedish public health agency to change the recommendation for certain groups 12 years and up

it really affects me to talk about it because I can feel that you are listening

and I can feel your anger and I can feel that you know so much about this

you're an audience that I've never had and it really affects me

I get really really angry talking about it could I just ask you one thing

yes so your son so the the recommendation from the Swedish Pediatric Society or whatever the name was

was that 12 and above but your son wasn't 12 or above yes he was 13 years old oh sorry he was 13

yes okay yes yes okay and what they should have done for example was to talk to his liver doctor

to his liver doctor Robert Salman and his heart doctors they did not do that there are no evidence

for that in the journals and I have spoken to the chief of the section Nils Ekvall in May 2022

a couple of months after Nicola's death and he said to me

that they read the children's journals and looked for contra

what was his word again contraindications for the COVID vaccine

what kind of contraindication could it be I asked him well actually

nothing he said

I don't feel so intelligent especially as I let this monster into my son

but I have moments of a clear view so I asked him

about allergy allergy from the COVID vaccine well we only know about allergy after the first shot

after the first shot so why did you tell me I asked him that you looked for contraindications

in the journals was that simply a formality and he said yes

it was

then in May 2022 a couple of months after Nicola's death

then in May 2022 a couple of months after Nicola's death

where after that call that I understood that I have to go to war

my suspicions about the COVID vaccine causing Nicola's illness started at the hospital

and now I will go into why he got sick how he how he got sick two months after his second shot

he got the chills and a fever

it was a Saturday we had a nice taco dinner it's very typical Swedish thing to have on a Saturday

probably in your countries as well and we had a really good time this was the 4th of December so

I brought home a tree a Christmas tree that afternoon and the children decorated it

and it was after dinner we were dancing around a little bit being a little bit silly

and all of the sudden I held Nicola's head in my hands like this looking him looking him in the eyes

and all of a sudden I said you are a little bit thin

you are a little bit thin

and his younger sibling said yes mother is say

mother said he is a little bit thin as well and then he went and then I said maybe you should

eat a little bit more and then he ate a little bit more because he was very loyal kind trusting

you know he was a very kind boy very very he had integrity and he was courageous but he was also

very kind and he loved his family a lot so he ate a little bit more and then he went to brush his

teeth and then he went to bed obviously it was ridiculous that they asked him to eat a little

bit more you know but yeah anyway I did and he went to bed and he got the chills all of the sudden

I heard him shivering from the other side of the corridor in our house and I went there

and he had he was shivering and he had fever and I gave him some medication to bring fever down

and then he after an hour or so he vomited and I asked the children if there were if there were

some disease like norovirus on the school and they confirmed that and he fell asleep

and actually I was watching him you know as we do as parents

when he fell when he was asleep I was looking after him a little bit looking at him

and I was in my head I had this voice oh what am I thinking here that he's going to die

that he's going to die

oh I'm so silly just looking at him like that you know

he's not going to he's he's okay I was thinking you know and

um

he didn't vomited anything more that night he

had a fever the next day as well and he vomited a lot the second night but I was my stomach started

to be a little bit upset so I was thinking okay now it's my turn now I get it the norovirus is

coming to me as well and so I was thinking all I was thinking the norovirus straight through it you know and

he ate a little bit of yogurt and drank a little bit water and stuff like that and he was sleeping

a lot and the second night he was vomiting a lot and the third the day after he was not vomiting

anymore and his fever went a little bit down and the third night he his fever was okay but he

started to ache a lot he cried during night time he had he was aching his body was aching

uh I was thinking yeah it's a little bit unusual for him but probably this is what you can expect

after fever the day the third day

on the afternoon he was sitting in the sofa watching tv he wanted to have some french fries

I guess for the salt and

he watched tv and it was only me and him and all of the sudden

he says to me I cannot feel my legs

and I was terrified and I called for an ambulance and they were a little bit difficult because of

the covid had he has he had covid etc and then they came with an ambulance and in the ambulance

I asked the nurse what do you think this is probably an infection she said I didn't know

what to think about it for me an infection could be anything I wasn't thinking about bacteria but

at the hospital

they found out that he had sepsis and he had a fever and he had a fever and he had a fever and

sepsis

and they found out that he had an infection a bacterial infection in the heart in in his

homograft as well as maybe other places but they gave him antibiotics for a week and then that

bacteria still were there and it moved around and

it got dangerous and they decided to do surgery on him open heart surgery

and

and

after the decision I wasn't there I was at home because at

at the hospital

we switched all the we switched me and his mother we switched

so one was there and the other at home or later on a place close to the hospital where we could

live etc and at the intensive care we could only and much more sorry there are countless

options to choose from thing trick can completely change the way you watch tv especially

especially

so anyway

your wife and you were taking we were switching and he called me

Nicholas his mother helped him to call me and he was telling me that he was going to surgery

I was shocked and I felt a big way on my shoulders and I felt very very sad that this fantastic

work that Peter Jögin had done on his heart was going to be destroyed

and also the work that the doctors had done 2019 that everything would go to waste

and

and

he comforted me and said I love you dad he he sounded very calm

and I sounded like I do now I was trying to hold back my tears and I said to him I love you and

and then he went through a 20 hour long surgery 20 hours

and I was calling all the time and asking how he did and so on and after he woke up again I

asked him about the chess the chess match that we had before at the hospital I wanted to see if he

could he if he could use his mind and I asked him do you remember who won and he took his right hand

and pointed at himself because he won you know and

then I felt good that he had his mind intact but that was not the whole story he had

he had

his liver failed his kidneys failed and he had had and he had a stroke from this those 20 hours

so he couldn't move his left arm and left leg

and we noticed that after a day or so and I started to train him immediately to move his

left hand and left foot

foot

but the doctors were not very optimistic the neurologist

looked a little bit weird haven't you been told the situation when we asked her about school and

how we would come back you know

are you not briefed with the situation she said okay they acted very strange and nervous all the

time I can tell you you know I think you should note I think you would have noticed that as well

as you are doctors and I had some experience from doctors at that time and they were not acting

normal the way they were nervous all the time all through the 68 days of martyrdom that my son went

through at the hospital 68 days and it had all and it had only started with a stroke

I tried to keep a positive mind and I wanted to surround Nicholas with positive thoughts

I wanted I acted very calmly I saw to I saw to it that I had sleep at nights that I ate

that I ate so I was able to act calmly around the nurses some of the nurses were were very

empathetic and good and some of the nurses acted very strange some of the doctors were more empathetic

than other as always so nothing strange with that but for some reason he didn't get

better I mean the infection were there they said they told us the infection must still be there

somewhere because the fever went up and down and the status of the infection the effect of

they measured the effect of the infection I haven't looked up that word but I'm sure you

know what I'm talking about so the figures told them that he had an infection and they opened up

his chest again

for a VAC a pump removing impurity from the from the heart

and he had that so he was open he had this he had his chest open

and he sat in a wheelchair for a couple of hours sometimes and

I want to illustrate his character and personality with some episodes some occasions from the

hospital because I think it's important I feel that it's important for me to

to describe his personality because it contrasts to his killers

so

he is the opposite of his killers

and what I mean by that is that he was rarely upset but when he was upset it was often

a moral indignation

and at this time the nurses were occupied with some nonsense

and they could only they could only move him from the wheelchair to the bed they told me if they

were two and the other nurse she was doing some bullshit you know moving papers around doing

you know moving papers around doing some kind of work that she obviously didn't have to do exactly

them instead of helping him because he got more and more sore and he asked again and again for

them to move him to the bed because he was in pain and all of the sudden and I told them as well

you well you have to move but I actually I was I was on my way to tell them when he slammed his

fist in the wheelchair and he said you are slow and I could hear what he meant you are impure

and they moved him to the bed

he was slowly rehabilitating he could move his left foot and left arm more and more he had a

Harry Potter is it called wand yes he had this Harry Potter wand and he was moving it I gave it

I gave it to him at his birthday just as a fun thing to give him besides the other presents

because obviously he was 13 years old but it was a fun thing to give him and and I gave it and I

brought it to the hospital and he used it in his training and he more and more could do the

movements with his left hand and

and

yeah I have a I have a photo of him by the way here this was is this can you see this no

this is his last summer

there

a very positive boy a very he was always focusing focusing on good stuff

and being very kind and enjoying to follow sports follow soccer he was

uh yeah he was also good at soccer he was very talented actually and

he was talented with balls all all kind of sports with balls he was good at it and

um

there was one concern because one of the cardiologists the pediatric cardiologists

she came to me in or already after the first operation she came to me and said

there is a concern because we have moved the anteria and uh uh there seem to be uh it's a

little bit too narrow uh where they sue it you know so it it's a little bit it's a risk for uh

uh uh a cardiac arrest there but they follow they followed it up and they uh

it looked good the troponin was at a good level level uh etc and I actually asked a doctor

uh the same day as his younger sibling was there visiting outside the window because they didn't

allow uh children there so the his younger sibling had to uh speak to him from the other side of the

window and he was happy for that and uh I asked the doctor how is the troponin looking and he

said it's looking good and I put my chin to his chin like or his more or less his

head like this and I said goodbye to him and his mother took over that day and uh the next

the evening he video called me and his younger sibling after the place where we stayed at the

nights we stayed at the place Ronald McDonald house close to the hospital uh I was sleeping

there and he video called us and uh his younger sibling was showing the place like in MTV style

this is my crib you know and uh and he was uh happy for that but he got a little bit tired and

he said I'm going to rest now and the next day me and his younger sibling ate some

Thai food at a place near the hospital and then we went to uh say hello to him through the window

because uh we knew where his room was and we didn't see him there and we didn't see anyone there

and then we went to meet his mother and then the chief physician called the chief physician

Anders called me it uh yeah it has happened something uh your son had a cardiac arrest and

and

and his it's not looking good yes and

then he underwent surgery again and a stent was installed that operation I think took maybe

uh nine hours or so but the the physicians called us parents and wanted to speak to us

after the surgery and they told us about this but they didn't tell us a problem a big problem and

that was that he had bad circulation for 50 minutes before they could bring him in the

uh heart and lung machine so he got uh very bad brain damages from this

and um severe brain damages

and um tried to cool him down while he was sleeping while he was still sleeping

and then he uh wake woke up and I was there again that's the first time and he looked at me

when he woke up and then Anders the chief physician entered the room

he had a very dark voice like this well he was also very tall the Swedish viking

you might say well it doesn't look good he said

and I was kind of immediately irritated on him and I was like I saw that Nikolas moved his eyes

to the voice so that gave me an immediate immediate thought that well he's not unaware

anyway he said he's aware

he was not brain dead the brain waves were not uh flat he had no uh he had he didn't have the

doll's eye syndrome or anything like that he simply didn't talk and he didn't move voluntarily

anymore but I started to read about the brain and how plastic it is and I kept my hope to train him

and bring him back

and uh

it was a very hard struggle the neurologists noticed what I noticed that he could move on

command a little bit sometimes he could shake their hands sometimes when they asked for it

and sometimes he didn't shake their hands when they asked for it well that's natural I don't

I didn't think it was strange and I filmed him and I video I videotaped him while giving him

instruction for example to chew on his ventilator tube and he chewed when I asked him to do it

for example uh Anders again well I have to talk to you well every day almost every day

he came to me and said I have to talk to you and he took me to a room and well it doesn't look good

he will not have a worthy life okay but are you sure uh do we know

his chances to move again etc well well he didn't believe it would be so good but uh

um and he didn't believe Niklas could breathe without the ventilator

no I don't think he will be able to do it and then I was there when he removed the ventilator

and Niklas was breathing perfectly so it was no problem without the ventilator

and um

um they called to a meeting me and his mother they wanted to tell us that they had decided

to not give him the ventilator back if he had a crisis to not give him heart surgery again and not

to and and uh to not start his heart again if it stopped

and uh they had the right to to those decisions I read I didn't have a lawyer or anything

I read about it that they had this right and um I was uh I was filing a report to the IVO it's

uh an authority in Sweden where you can file reports on health care I filed a report because

I was angry and I was upset that uh they hadn't recognized this risk for cardiac arrest more

I know that this uh pediatric cardiologist Marie Bartos that I spoke about she warned them every

conference about it but they were a little bit chauvinistic and didn't believe

that the risk was so big so I filed a report on that

and they and they I think they saw me as an enemy by then

anyway I had to I my my uh

behavior was very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very

measured as Stephen uh taught me to say he he taught me that word measured measured so my my

behavior was measured uh but I think they were beginning to see me as an enemy

which I didn't understand why because I thought they wanted I I thought before this I thought

they would do anything to save a child but they didn't want to save him they didn't want

they didn't believe in him they wanted him to die

which totally traumatized me but I kept struggling for example I was struggling for them to

suction the mucus they didn't want it in the beginning when they moved him to the medicine

section from the intensive care there was an American doctor there she had an American accent

and she said with this American accent

uh we will not have any monitoring over oxygen and pulse

why I said yes we will I said yes we will have that okay she said okay almost immediately

she didn't argue with me so he had his oxygen and pulse was monitored of course

I was very shocked when she said that

uh

there was some progress I think because I was very happy when I moved him from the wheelchair

to the bed and he was bare and I was uh kind of asking him uh well I I will get a blanket for you

soon Nikolas is that okay and a couple of days before that I actually told him you will speak

again and and the first thing you will say is ah I told him that and actually when I asked him

I would get the blanket for you is that okay it came from him ah

he answered me I was shocked it was a triumph I was so proud as I always were

over him and I looked at the nurse and she was also American isn't that strange an American

doctor and an American nurse all of a sudden from nowhere and I looked at the American nurse

I'm telling you this from their accents you know they had American accents so uh I was looking at

the American nurse very proud you know and I was expecting her to also smile back noticing this but

she was uh in another mental place because she immediately asked me so there is zero

this zero zero ventilator zero HLR and zero surgery here she was asking me to confirm

that they didn't want to save his life if he had a crisis she was at another place mentally

I was like shocked and I was like yeah yes yeah another time I was upset I didn't keep my temper

all the time one time I took a nurse aside because she was talking about everything that

Nicholas did as reflexes well it's a reflex and then there's a here's another reflex and

blah blah blah and I took her aside and I said I don't want you to share your opinions about

reflexes I'm not interested I don't want to hear anything more about reflexes

uh she looked at me like I was yeah nothing you know and uh

there was some kind there was some other strange stuff but uh I'm moving forward here to uh

to uh

actually that one day they said we're going to remove the antibiotics to see if the infection

is still there and before that the days before that they did some strange things for example

well his mother noticed as she had been working in care she noticed that this specially designed

this special bed he had it was like an inflatable bed they had put it on the lowest degree of air

so it was very very soft at the same time they gave him

sedatives of course but they also gave him clonidine

I don't know if that's the English word but uh it's relaxing the muscles

they also gave him they also doubled his dose of uh

of uh

nurture do you call it nurture like his food they doubled his dose of food that he

nutrition they doubled his nutrition

and uh the night after they doubled it he I woke up because at the medic medicine

section I was allowed to sleep in the same room so uh I was I woke up because

he vomited Nicholas vomited a lot and I could hear the nurses talking to each other

should we wake the father up no fuck him they said in that harsh language

and I woke up and I was trying to assist assisting them a little bit and I could see that his vomit

and I could see that his vomit came down through his yeah it went down his lungs yeah

Bobo you I don't know whether you've done it no I was just coughing so I muted myself I'm back

so anyway

I could see that his nutrition went down his lungs and a couple days later as I said they

took away the antibiotics and obviously he started to cough a lot and they decided that he was deadly

sick his eyes were clear I can show you pictures there are pictures in the biggest

newspaper of Sweden I can tell you why but I made the biggest newspaper of Sweden interview me and

it was a totally unfiltered interview which is fantastic but I will tell you about it later

but anyway his eyes were clear but they told him that the infection got the best of him and that

he was dying and it was the head of the intensive care that all of the sudden came into the room

and he was very energetic filled with energy like he just had a fantastic meal you know

meal you know and he was like hello I'm the head of intensive care we haven't met yes blah blah blah

and we can shake hands there's no restrictions anymore from today he sounded like

like he run a circus more than he run intensive care and all of the sudden he changed mode

he changed to a very serious mode and he said well he's very very sick now

okay I was thinking he's not more sick now than

a couple of weeks ago no so they called us to a meeting and they told me that he and me and his

mother they were like 17 doctors there 17 doctors more or less in this meeting and they told him

well he's he's deadly sick the infection is there somewhere we don't know where but it's there and

we're going to remove the nutrition we're going to take away the nutrition

and I was afraid that if I struggled

I mean I had read that they had this right to take away treatment that they thought was prolonged

prolonging their suffering but I also thought that if I

prolonged this it would result in him dying from his mucus

that his mucus would suffocate him because they didn't want to give him a ventilator

so I didn't say anything and one of the doctors said is it because we are so many

that you don't talk

I was in a very intensive shock so I thought he was kind no nothing can

can take away this pain I said I thought he was empathetic but afterwards I understood that he

was enjoying the peer pressure the the idea of bullying anyway

I haven't used alcohol or drugs for 12 years now and by 2022 it was nine years without alcohol and

drugs so obviously when I started to hallucinate it wasn't because of drugs because namely what I

did I was sitting in Nikola's room and I was watching the trees outside far away and all of

the sudden a black arch were coming down from the sky moving like a an ufo over the trees a big black

arch

and I was thinking okay that's strange but I was in shock and

a couple of days later Nikola's died it was half past 12

the 13th of February I was the only relative there and they picked some very young nurses

to give him inhalation in the beginning they were sectioning his mucus a little bit but

to give him inhalation in the beginning they were sectioning his mucus a little bit but

and I was sectioning it I saw at the monitor of oxygen and pulse that his brain was going

but I still want and he had morphine and he was deep he was asleep deep

deeply asleep and I but I still wanted to take away the mucus because it ran a very thick line

of mucus from his nose from his nostril so I took this suction device and I helped him and I went

to the bathroom and when I came out the nurse the nurses had locked the suction device

the suction device

and I asked the nurse are we not going to section anymore no no no no we're not we're not why

yeah I don't know why I don't know why she said she was like 20 years old maybe

I didn't want to act upset around Nikola's I wanted to to give him a peaceful environment

but the aggression from my spine was intense so I had all of the sudden I was aching in my neck

a lot and I there was some kind of massage pillow there and I took it and laid down

lay down besides Nikola's bed and put the massage to my neck

and I dissociated a little bit and I was thinking like yes Nikola's is going to sleep a little bit

and I can take a small rest and I fell asleep and the nurse woke me up she was shaking me a

little bit and she said now Nikola's just took his last breath

I felt a little bit accused and shocked of course and I rushed up

and I put my hand on his chest and Nikola's drew another deep breath and it reminded me of how he

acted when we were swimming together and came up from the water and he pushed his chest out

and I had my hand on it and the nurse the nurse replied

oops I fooled daddy

and this sounds like I'm making it up but it's I'm not I'm not making this up

it's I'm not I'm not making this up and when I'm telling you this I'm very surprised that I'm

not making this up that this actually happened but this happened and she flashed she had a

flashlight and he took one more breath and then she shown the flashlight in his pupils and said

no he's dead and

I have described it

I have described it thank you so much Sean I have described it as I as something pierced me like a

sword or a or a spear pierced my heart from the back and I felt absolutely like garbage

and I felt

like I had the plague that I was an outcast that I was nothing that I was of zero value as a father

here

at the same time I had my suspicions all the way from the beginning at the hospital

I asked a little bit about the vaccine because I started to google and I understood

uh because Nicholas Young's sibling told me during Nicholas fevers Nicholas Young's sibling

told me and he got this fever and he got this fever after the second shot of the COVID vaccine

as well and you know they've stopped that vaccine now what did they but I didn't think more of it

because I didn't relate his fever to the vaccine but at the hospital it came back to me and I

started to google why they stopped the COVID vaccine and I didn't know I didn't even know if

he had Moderna or Pfizer because they told me he will either have Moderna or Pfizer when they called

for the vaccination so I a couple of days couple of days later after Nicholas death I went home

and I looked at his vaccination card that he actually kept in a small bag sports like more

a purse more or less that I gave him for his birthday and I looked at the card and I saw that

it was Moderna and I uh this was after this was after his death but also before his death

when I read about the COVID vaccine the mRNA vaccine could cause myocarditis etc. I asked the

doctors is it possible that a myocarditis weakened his heart and made it

and made this bacterial infection happen no no no that's totally and that's no that has nothing

to do with that you know they said after his death I also spoke to Marie Bartos again and she said

well if he would have if he had had a myocarditis he would have had pain but that was not true

because I researched it and I looked it up that it is not necessarily painful so I

uh as I said to you I spoke to the head of the section Nils Ekvall I spoke to him in May 2022

and he told me all this bullshit about contraindications and stuff like that and

I understood that there were no individual assessment and I started

my actions to investigate this was looking a long time for some evidence medical evidence

that there could be a weakening of the heart result from a myocarditis resulting in a bacterial

endocarditis I didn't find enough information but this was my idea and

it took all the way to January 2023 I got in in touch with a wonderful

woman called her name is Sabrina and I started to

uh meet her and talk to her and I went to Stockholm and together with her we went to

the conference the pandemic strategies the conference called pandemic strategies in January

2023 and I listened for example to a Sima Hottra and Ryan Cole and I spoke to them afterwards

but actually it was when I listened to Arne Burkhardt professor Arne Burkhardt the famous

pathologist that tragically died a couple of months after that actually it was when I listened to

Arne Burkhardt and his findings from uh from covid vaccine victims because he did autopsies

together with Sukharit Bhakti professor Sukharit Bhakti and him they did 70

autopsies as you know of covid vaccine deaths and they found horrific stuff and I had to

leave my place I said to Sabina

uh I have to go I will sit a little bit longer from the stage

and I went to another place and I was sitting in the back feeling very sick I felt like I wanted

to vomit like like I wanted to throw up but I

I decided to talk to Arne Burkhardt and I went down afterwards and I shook his hand

and uh I see Malhotra and uh Ryan Cole was also there and we spoke about Nicholas and I presented

the facts the medical evidence and uh all the medical facts more or less and uh there were

some other doctors there there as well and Arne Burkhardt he looked me straight in my eyes with

his very clear light blue eyes he said very calmly first myocarditis then endocarditis that's all he

said actually so I went home to Sabina's place and at the evening a man called me

by the name of Ulf Bittner a Swedish man he died just a couple of weeks ago

but he was a very special man he has his own YouTube channel he had a newsletter

a fantastic man he was so informative he wasn't at all intellectual he was uh he was

a soldier he was not an intellectual he gathered information and he spewed it out in his channels

and he was like a machine he was a fantastic human being and he uh Ulf Bittner died thank you

thank you Silja for your question Ulf Bittner died from uh actually from the failure of a heart

surgery uh he didn't want a stent but they forced it uh on him and he's he had failure of uh

uh his stomach couldn't get rid of water and he had failure of of his vital organs

but I can tell you more about that later but uh anyway Ulf Bittner he wanted to interview me

and after that after that

Sweb TV it's uh it's uh

it's a it's a YouTube channel that is pretty close to the Sweden Democrats they wanted to

interview me as well

I don't think it has anything to do with it but the journalist that interviewed me

got fired the day after and they never published the long interview that he did only a short

on a couple of seconds but anyway um this started something because Ulf Bittner he

told me you have to report this directly to a prosecutor how do you mean I said what do you mean

it's better that you report this straight to

yes his name was Jesper Johansson Silja he's a fantastic guy I love him a lot he we still

keep in touch uh he was the best journalist on that channel and he was fired and he didn't get to

they shut him off totally he couldn't even pick something up from his office

they didn't want him to access his computer and it was very strange but uh I don't think it has

anything actually I don't think it has anything to do with uh the interview he did with me because

they are very skeptical uh towards the covid vaccine etc but anyway

Ulf Bittner he told me you have to do a report to the directly to the prosecutor okay and

fortunately his good friend was uh also interviewing me together with Ulf and his good friend was Dr

Björn Hammarskjöld he's a former chief pediatric physician and he helped me with the medical

evidence uh medical evaluation and we filed this report to the prosecutor and the prosecutor turned

it down and said there is not enough evidence of the connection between the vaccine and the death

and uh we uh worked even harder I digged very deep in documents uh medical reports

clinical analysis etc uh and I uh like my method was to mail Björn everything I had

I said as I told Stephen yesterday I use chat GPT as well to organize the information and give me

chronologies and stuff like that and I I mailed everything to Björn and he said well okay maybe

but this is not totally correct and this is correct and you know and we we transcribed something out

of it we we transcribed something out of it that actually made the prosecutor change her mind

that is something you know that totally shook me because

I've always felt that I have certain talents but I've also felt a little bit insecure and

a little bit yes traumatized already when I was a teenager and I I I don't have

I didn't have a lot of confidence but when I saw this I was totally shocked and I felt well

I couldn't save Nikolas life uh I even um cooperated in his death unwillingly of course

I was fooled to do it because I wanted to to protect him and they fooled me to protect him

with something that killed him so I didn't feel very confident but I I understood that I had done

something very good and the prosecutor actually said that I was going to kill him and I said

something very good and the prosecutor actually wrote in a letter because of the information

added to the case I have changed my mind and I will now start an investigation a preliminary

investigation okay and

I called the the Swedish

state tv they were not interested there is not enough news value they said I was so angry

this is not

this is not very characteristic for me but I actually started to yell at a drunk man at the bus

afterwards I had I actually had a rage at the bus I started to yell at a very drunk man

man uh after this so uh that really upset me that the tv that the television didn't want to

report on it but it didn't stop me uh I continued to uh uh talk about this was interviewed by Ulf

Bittner of course he was so happy and he made a video interview he was so happy and

Björn Hammarskjöld was there and we felt like boys in a candy shop and

yes he was fantastic and uh and Björn as well he's also fantastic um and um anyway

uh epoch times decided to interview me the swedish epoch times that was a wonderful

interview but I felt this is still too small

I got to know a very fantastic woman she is the mother

she's the mother-in-law to Pontus Seavius the victim of Moderna's COVID vaccine he died

in the end of January 2022 two weeks only two weeks after he sent his COVID vaccine shots from

COVID vaccine shots from Moderna he died from a cardiac arrest he got home

one day and feeling bad and he told his wife and his daughter who was only seven eight or eight

years old uh I feel bad I have to take a walk what's wrong baby she said and he was taking

this walk and it was snowy this is was in a fantastic landscape called Värmland it's very

beautiful there so he was like taking this walk uh in uh among the houses where they lived and

he felt worse and worse and he felt pain in his chest and he called uh emergency

911 is called 112 in Sweden but anyway he called uh emergency but they said to him

that sounds like anxiety we recommend I recommend you to call uh the priest

uh the priest a priest I mean this priest taking calls you know and he got uh a cardiac arrest

after that phone call there was an ambulance in the in the area so he got help but it was of no use

he died on his way to the hospital or perhaps at the hospital I can't remember but

anyway he was only 30 years old and he shouldn't have had the Moderna because it was stopped for

his age group so actually they won they received a small economical compensation for his death

the family I mean from the state so the state has acknowledged that he died from COVID

the Moderna's COVID vaccine and um I met his mother-in-law at the the book uh there's like

there's like a big book show in Göteborg in Gothenburg every year and I spoke there and I met

his mother-in-law there and I also spoke to her on a whole lot on the phone this was uh of course

2023 and it was fall 2023 uh no it was sorry it was spring this was springtime 2024 actually

because the interview the interview in Epoch Times was published in uh October 2023 and then

this happened and and this book show was

in September 2023 and then springtime those out 2024 she called me and the mother-in-law

to Pontus she said the police is starting an investigation about Pontus as well

Wow great I said I was a little bit post-traumatic uh it's a little bit better now but uh

during that time I could get very irritated and switch personality a little bit so uh I

was a little bit harsh and told her

and told her

if the biggest newspaper Aftonbladet and Expressen that's also a big newspaper if the biggest

newspaper call you now I want to report about this you have to mention Nikolas and me

yes I always mention you because they there were some reports in local media and stuff like that

always yes but you have to yes of course she would have done it anyway but this was what

happened I want to be honest that uh I was a little bit harsh but it would have happened anyway and uh

uh

Linnea Blomgren from Aftonbladet called me and she is a young woman she had uh

recently started there at Aftonbladet

it means evening post and uh she wanted to interview me and for some reason she made a totally

unfiltered interview it was published and immediately they called from Göteborg's biggest

newspaper and Expressen that is also a big newspaper and they wanted to interview me as well

they followed the lead

the Göteborg posten the biggest uh paper of Göteborg did that woman also a young woman also

also a young woman also angelic both they are both beautiful not that it matter but

they are angelic both of those journalists they have a very kind way and they are

they are fantastic in any in every way not that I know them but what I've known from them and

uh this uh journalist from Göteborg she also did a totally unfiltered interview not a single lie

every word that I said and she quoted me when I said that the state murdered my son

and that is fantastic I think you know and um this is

why I wanted to share some moments from the hospital with you that I had with Nikolas

and how his character is because his character is still working in this

and it will conquer evil all through the world

it resulted in more attention and I got to know Celia Farber that is a big inspiration for me

and my idol I would say I've always been fascinated by investigative journalists all

the way from I was a child and and Celia Farber is one of the greatest

uh that exposed Fauci in the 80s you know

I haven't done enough research but Celia I think you would agree that you

there that you were unique that did this and you must be a very unique person that did that

and uh of course I have digged into what Fauci did and uh what he did

did and what role he played but I will not go into that but I will

say before your questions that Celia introduced me to Dr Kirk Milhawan

the pediatric cardiologist that also read Nikolas journals and stated for the police

that Moderna's COVID vaccine is the most likely primarily cause of Nikolas death and that is

on paper for the police and the police has recently switched the man in charge there

and they have moved it to a section for heavy crime I don't know why but the prosecutor is

the prosecutor is still on this she told me on the phone before Christmas that she has to prioritize

people in jail waiting for their trial well I can understand that but

there's still some hope I I absolutely think that there is hope for a trial in our case

and I would be happy if you have some questions because I don't think I will

say anything more about that although we have we have we have questions but before we go to Stephen

thank you so much for your heart-wrenching testimony and and the only I have five children

and I just can't imagine going through what you've gone through before we go to Stephen

for the first several questions Celia would you like to say something before Stephen starts

because Bobo is here with us because of your recommendation Celia

it's a little hard it's a little hard to talk like so many of us it's

Bobo's story and how he tells it it just brings you to tears it's it's so because how he

how he is as a human being as you've all just heard and how he takes in the world and expresses

everything it's it's it's it's like the the whole person the whole heart the whole is perceiving

everything and describing everything in such harrowing detail and it's actually even beyond

the murder of of the mRNA shots it's and with Nicholas's death what strikes me as somebody

who's half Swedish and grew up in Sweden that in addition it takes place in this

surreal not surreal like very dystopic setting and when he tells his story Bobo when you tell

your story I'm just I feel like I'm there with you I'm I'm just white knuckling and I'm on the

edge of tears and I can see all these people in fact when you first when you and I first started

started talking you told the story about I think it was that guy who burst in who had all that

energy and wasn't it something he said about a tie what was it could you tell that story I know

it's this was actually thank you for asking this was actually what you are talking about is actually

the decon I haven't mentioned him if you would share that story real quick because it's all right

yeah he actually entered the room together with the chief of the head of intensive care

so you're right on that and he was also filled with energy and like he had a good meal

they were happy that Nicholas was going to die that was obvious this decon I had as yeah

he he I was going to him for talks all through the time on the hospital

and in the beginning I felt that it was a good support because I kind of I felt that I could

cry a little bit and then go back to Nicholas and not crying with Nicholas so I cried with this man

it was a bald a little bit fat man

he was nothing special but as as long as he kept his mouth shut I believed that he was listening

to me and I was crying but when he when he started to talk a little bit I understood that

there was something really wrong with him because I noticed that he wanted to test me and see if I

could obey obey the hospital more or less he was he had some kind of role to make

the relatives obedient and

um

when I listened to him talking to a mother and father in the kitchen one day I heard he I heard

the father telling him well I guess we just have to trust in God hell no he said

that's right say it in Swedish for a second

uh

it's like yeah it's like if you translate it directly it's like the devil knows the devil knows

yeah so this is so bizarre this whole dimension to your story it's like something is very wrong

like a horror movie with all the people you just almost all the people you describe at this hospital

there's another episode where a lady a nurse

was there at his bed at Nicholas bed after his severe brain damage and he had also spasms he had

like epileptic attacks after his brain damages and he was shivering a little bit and she was like

and he started to have a hiccup and she was like telling him in my country we scare children to

stop the hiccups maybe I should scare you and I said no you no you don't and she started and

she pushed the limit even more because all of the sudden she started to say uh

uh do you know Nicholas that we're talking shit about you behind the glass

are you serious this was supposed to be funny but how funny is it when the boy your boy my boy

has so severe brain damage that he can talk and move voluntarily how funny is it you know not very

funny so I asked the doctors to remove her and I didn't saw her there anymore but back to the deacon

or the dean I think the dean is the word right no dean would be a head of a college or university

it's not the dean I don't know what's the word I think deacon is correct okay deacon so he's helping

the priest and whatever and he's from the church this guy and so when Nicholas

when they made the decision to remove the nutrition to take away the nutrition

we wanted to speak to this Johan this guy this deacon we wanted to speak to him about what would

happen after Nicholas died so we went to him in good faith and we asked him and he said very

with a very like with a big satisfaction in his voice when Nicholas is dead

he will be taken to the morgue and the morgue and etc and his mother said we were thinking he

could have a suit because he loves suits he liked he liked uh he liked Barney in

the sitcom how I met your mother yeah so he liked suits and he wanted and she said maybe he can have

a suit and he said yeah and a small tie from Armani maybe and I was looking at him very

disgusted but I didn't want to upset anything around this so I kept my mouth shut but

that person is definitely on my list to expose and humiliate

because I am a very vengeful person I'm not very I'm I come across

I think I come across a little bit sweet but I can be very vengeful and he's definitely on my list

to in all legal ways humiliate as much as I can because he definitely didn't serve God

yeah I mean for those again just to go over that first of all now that I'm hearing it again these

stories there's they're breathtaking details and I think for those of us you know I'm half Swedish

and half American but I'm more American but I think for people who aren't Swedish they probably

don't even fit anywhere in anybody's imagination like what is this who are these people what

I wouldn't say that it's specifically Swedish this I would say that something rotten happened during

during the pandemic I think I think they were dragged into some kind of demonic vibrations

yes from the pandemic so probably it's a lot of people don't even know what it is

so probably at its own demonic vibrations so these were like the Swedish demonic vibrations

as they manifested interesting yeah maybe they maybe they escalated the Swedish demons yeah

I mean you have a deacon who you're who's saying

the devil no it's also anyway I just I'm so honored to be your friend and I'm so proud of you and

I just want to give other people a chance to ask you questions and you're just you thank you so

much likewise thank you thank you so much Celia all right Stephen your video is off over to you

Stephen your video is off over to you for the next 15 minutes yeah just two seconds

there we are so I'll pull it down in a second so Bobo thank you so much for talking to us

I think you did so I think I understand you you want to do the best you can for your son

so this meeting is very important for you and I think the video is going to be very powerful

um because you have a remarkable ability to tell stories across international boundaries and

and and in a foreign language for you so it's very I feel that my English is a little bit weak

but thank you anyway well no it's pretty good actually wow great I was struck when you sent

the bio to me about three or four days ago um Bobo I noticed that the English was perfect

well I thank chat GPT for that yes I was just going to tell the story so I asked you um who

had checked it for you because I couldn't believe that your English was so good when it wasn't your

first um language um uh so and you said that it was artificial intelligence yeah and I said well

actually yeah very good job from artificial intelligence but still we have to be aware of

them yes absolutely because it seems to me that artificial intelligence well first of all is not

very intelligent no and but the people using the artificial intelligence have to be extraordinarily

intelligent for no evil to be done that's what I can see now I don't understand it but you then went

tell me that you haven't you didn't say that you haven't but I realized you had an amazing

ability to understand all the tech that's going on because you talked about various things

yeah I will show you I will show you my book this is uh this is a book that I wrote uh 2018

those up to the it took me two years to write this book uh it's about my experiments on the

internet I started to experimenting with dialogue on the internet uh 2007

and I stopped a little bit and I started again 2015 and 2018 I asked a publisher if they wanted

to publish a book about it and I only wrote 14 pages to them and I signed a deal with them

uh and I wrote this book with their help they they gave me a great they gave me a lot of help

actually they are a little bit uh leftish they are like a little bit liberal uh that publisher

and I am a little bit more uh I'm I guess I'm a libertarian more or less uh uh but uh I kind of

I kind of uh lured myself in into their web kind of and and and and the the work we did together was

pretty good and I covered every aspect of advanced internet trolling

and there are ex there are some aspects that are very useful of course they wanted me to be very

self-critical and I went to a therapist and the therapist wrote a chapter in the book as well

I actually let him write a chapter just as an alibi sort of uh to whitewash uh the book to

whitewash myself from the more uh uh yeah from what they

because the truth is that I kind of enjoyed myself experimenting and the experiments were

pretty harmless uh sometimes I'm sure I upset some people but it was almost only about

the big thing I did was to create uh I create big big mobs against myself against I I

um very rare I very rarely used uh another name I used my own name that's why I changed my name

2008 because it was impossible for me to have I was baptized to be as struck to be us to bias

stroke so I was baptized uh uh to be us and uh I changed my name 2008 because it was too

difficult for me to get a job uh with a simple goog a simple uh move on google would destroy

everything for me it was so I I wrote very much political stuff but I always experimented with

kind of like I I wanted to see if I mixed uh discourses from different political angles

and what would happen how would people react would I be able to convince people would I be able to

shake them would I be able to disturb them would I be able to change their views

and what I write here is for example and why I'm talking about this is it's because I'm using this

right now uh I enjoyed doing this when I was younger now I don't have the same

I'm not driven by uh I'm not driven by the amusement anymore of course I'm I'm driven by

trauma uh I'm very driven and it's trauma it's the trauma that is driving me

and the feeling that I'm doing a duty to my son and honoring him but it's the same techniques

I'm using the same same techniques on the internet yes brilliant and for example I'm quoting

um the head of Cambridge Analytica they got known for helping Donald Trump to become the president

of United States 2016 yeah brilliant and uh they are also known from the documentary The Great Hack

uh where it's described how they helped the Ethnic Indian Party UNC to a victory

uh over another party another ethnic party in Trinidad and Trinidad and Tobago 2010 and it's

very interesting um what Mark Turnbull says in an interview with the British The Mirror and I quote

we just put information into the bloodstream of the internet and then watch it grow give it a

little push every now and then give it a little push every now and again over time to watch it

take shape and so this stuff infiltrates the online community and expands but with no branding

so it's unattributable untrackable

so um do you think that's the formation of a cult on the internet even we still can't see your face

it's not only useful for formating cults in this case what they did in Trinidad and Tobago

was that they started a compend they started a trend among young people to not vote

the sorry I find stuff like this amusing but it's not it's really tragic uh they

they made the young people in the African ethnic group not voting so the Indian ethnic group

succeeded to win they they campaigned they started a trend that it was cool to not vote you know

yeah and it's not only useful if you want to create a trend or a cult it's useful to

in fact create a new culture and I call it a global culture without central power

and it will assign my vision my vision is that through internet we are definitely

able to create something much stronger than Fauci ever dreamt of than Gates ever dreamt of

uh what I believe that I in the end can create on the internet uh is only what you know

old men like that can dream of I'm not I'm not very young myself but I find I I find that uh

Bill Gates and uh Anthony Fauci and guys like that they don't understand internet

no so they're very pedestrian in their understanding yes I agree with you so

yes and that's what I spoke yesterday when we were talking I was struck by uh the way you described

how um the internet if you like was manipulated uh by uh groups or people um it doesn't really

matter you've got the creation of a cult and that's exactly how I understood that uh President Trump

had come to power I'm not saying that he did it if you like the the um the cult which was created

was hijacked uh by the people who wanted uh Trump in power from being a businessman he had no history

in politics so it was an extraordinary achievement but now of course yes absolutely think of this

think of this if I can plant an idea

among people that are already close to the edge that are what Hillary Clinton called the deplorable

yep uh long time without work poor people desperate people

if I can plant ideas in their minds of how to conquer how to conquer their enemy and who

their enemy is and uh wouldn't you if you were their enemy wouldn't you come to me

and beg me to plant something merciful among them and is that what the Trump people when they got

in league with the Cambridge Analytica I don't I know about Cambridge Analytica but I'm not I

can't quite remember how it went but um uh the Cambridge Analytica they uh distillated uh

information from millions of Facebook profiles and they manufactured uh targeted ads yes that's

right yes so they um created copyright and pictures and movies you know videos that were

especially designed to reach the hearts of what they understood was the target groups and they

targeted insecure voters voters that hadn't made up their mind yet but but were they targeting those

people on behalf of Trump all along or were they targeting them because this was only for this was

the campaign the Trump campaign this was this method they they invented this method for the

Trump campaign yeah but but were the people around Trump uh egging them on or was it just

offered to them I mean I don't know they were uh you know uh Trump or their their client you know

right Cambridge Analytica it's a PR uh bureau so they were yeah

That's 15 minutes, David. That's 15 minutes so quickly.

Well yeah but I wanted to say one or two things so um Bobo it's very important that we talk about this um so I think your testimony tonight

um has a huge potential um none of us knows really because we're human beings um but we

don't really know where things will go in the future um and not not why either um but I do think that every medical student needs to watch this presentation

Thank you thank you so much. It was a brilliant presentation Bobo if you were worrying about not doing your son justice you had no worries at all.

Well that's very uh helpful for me to hearing that so thank you.

You're absolutely brilliant at telling stories. Yeah wow that means a lot to me to hear yeah and it's no accident that the prosecutor has backed you in my opinion.

Thank you very good thank you Stephen thank you Celia all right we've got Peter's hand up we've got 25 minutes to go and then we're finishing up the presentation.

We're finishing so if others have questions now's the time to put your hand up. Peter who over to you in Wales.

Cheers um Bobo thank you Charles Bobo thank you so much for joining us today um thank you.

I've had to write this down um as I think others would have to. The lack of hands up is because

we're just gobsmacked with your story um your bravery your honesty you're a good man.

Thank you. You give us all hope my friend we sometimes lose our way and this is the sort of kick up the ass we need to know why we're fighting this.

Why we've been meeting twice a week for over four years and sometimes when we get a bit lost maybe we need to read your story and that tells us why we're doing it.

So I'll read out what I wrote because I'm not often lost for words but I am a little bit tonight as I'm sure most people on here are.

Um a couple a couple people put down they felt physically sick at times feeling your pain you your family your wife and thank you all the people around you so.

So sorry you went through all this um so you might put down here your presentation was so painful and uncomfortable for us.

It was agony and it was very real it was needed at this time and was also very inspiring.

It will give us the strength to carry on the fight for humanity and when we falter your tragic loss will highlight us why we must fight on.

So on that point and this is my question in a way um you probably know from Stephen maybe that Charles Covass here myself and some other top experts in the world.

Are dealing with a case for a young man who's on the zoom tonight but he can't speak his phone is playing up but I believe he can hear everything.

His mother was killed by the Pfizer vaccine or the Pfizer treatment it's not a vaccine.

And it's going to inquest now we've got a bit of a problem with that an inquest as you probably know is there to establish.

The and this is important for the other people to know of course I know you know it.

The inquest establishes the cause of death and it's not there to apportion blame.

So we have to be very careful when we get to the inquest because it looks like Pfizer are going to have to appear.

So for us that is a very very important point and we have to get the interest of the um of the inquest judge.

To want to look at an investigation and maybe ask for a criminal investigation afterwards if we are successful.

So on that point and again don't feel you have to answer all of this now but after this.

Zoom if you do think Peter and Charles could do this bit of information or this link so is there anything.

That you can give us maybe or even Celia that will help us establish the causal link.

Or any advice at all on what to focus on or even avoid going forward with our case.

That's my question.

Just let me think a little bit about it because it's a very important question.

And I researched this very thoroughly and I think there are a lot of evidence.

There are for example a study with data from 99 million people.

Have you heard about it? I guess you've heard about it.

Yep.

And it shows 12 medical consequences from the COVID vaccine.

And I think in the bottom of it.

I think when you communicate about this you have to start with.

The simple thing that the.

mRNA molecules embedded in the lipid particles.

Are programming the cell to produce a non-human protein.

Because even if it's a prosecutor it doesn't mean that that person know this.

No.

So if you start there.

And you tell it very in a simple way.

That it's instructing the cell that is programming the cell.

It's introduced in the cell and then it makes the cell produce the spike protein.

And then what happens is that it's supposed to only create antibodies.

But it also stimulates T cells and some of them instruct cells to kill themselves.

And the consequence of that is inflammation.

And the consequence of inflammation can be.

Blood clots.

Can also be scar tissue.

That disturbs the electrical system of the heart if it's if the inflammation occurred in the heart.

Or disturbs the brain and the blood clots can also move through the body and all of the sudden.

Stay at the danger place a dangerous place.

Like in the lungs for example if you if you tell the story like that you start in the.

Intrusive mechanism.

Of the mRNA molecule entering.

The cell.

And changing the cells the function making it produce a non human protein.

If you start there and then you go to.

How the immune system reacts and how it can create.

Inflammations and from there go to how it can create different kinds of medical problems.

Then you have the listener.

The listener.

Occupied by the idea that they are dealing with an enemy to God's creation.

We have to understand that we are protecting the cell by this the cell is in danger.

What will happen if this manipulation of cells continue.

On the whole of humanity it will mean that we will.

This financial elite those big investors and their companies they will create.

Different human species.

They will create some kind of hybrids and you know.

For example in the legal system a prosecutor or a lawyer or police officer.

An investigator for the police.

They have they have to you have to go through their.

You have to go through their.

Fog their brain fog go through their everyday troubles go through everything you know.

Go through their thoughts about you know did I drink too much yesterday.

Am I really going to be unfaithful to my wife.

Is it is it too late to say I'm sorry all of those thoughts in their heads go through it all.

And shake them.

And make them understand that when the cell is in danger.

It's the same thing as when your family is in danger and it's the same thing as when your nation is in danger and it's the same thing.

As when humanity is in danger and the danger comes from a system where big corporations are competing for a low interest.

Because the banks they give the lowest interest to the corporation that maximizes the profit the best.

And because it's a global market there are no longer any national concerns.

And when they when you when you penetrate the brain fog and make them understand that.

We have a real enemy against humanity against the citizens and that's enemy that enemy is the government.

And that's enemy that enemy.

Is.

Inside the military inside the state inside the authorities and.

This enemy is the system the competition for a low interest rate.

And when they understand.

Into my intuition when they understand by intuition.

That they are sitting inside a machine.

That has turned against their family their nation and humanity and their own children.

They will start to revolt revolt silently.

Yes, yes, so they will start breaking the pattern inside the machine you are right, but I know when I have got through to people.

And everything you said there, I was a police prosecutor, I am a lawyer now.

A police prosecutor, I am a lawyer now.

I've been a local government investigator I've done all those things and you have to make it personal.

Yeah.

To the people for them to actually realize oh hang on this affects me I'm not just dealing.

With a situation here this actually affects me and that's one of the things I will be trying to get through to the judge in this.

And one other thing just because obviously your case was Moderna.

I remember back five years ago and I got a very good memory for things.

I remember going on to the Moderna website and it was Moderna TX Texas I believe.

And it said our new mRNA vaccine works like an app on your computer they've changed it now by the way.

It can program your body very much like we can program your computer are the words that Moderna used at the time.

I don't know if I took a screenshot of that but I will go back through my photographs from five years ago.

Interesting.

If I have that I will send it to you.

Thank you.

That would mean a lot because that is a really silly thing to say for them.

Yeah.

So that's very interesting.

But they could easily say it because these people are incredibly arrogant.

They have forgotten their dreams and they don't know what humility is.

They are unbelievable in their hubris.

Absolutely.

And I just want to share a thing that happened in Sweden recently.

We had a big corporation called Northvolt.

Have you heard about it?

They wanted to produce batteries for electric vehicles and it failed completely.

There it was up in the north and many many hundreds of people lost their jobs.

And do you know how much the state invested in this?

Of course in the United States you have BlackRock who owns nine billion dollars.

So this is not so much in comparison but actually the state invested nine billion dollars.

Nine billion.

Sorry.

Yeah.

Silja, a billion is a billion.

Yes.

A billion is a billion.

Yes.

Yes it is.

So actually I was wrong about BlackRock because I think yeah.

Yeah the accurate number is that they own nine trillion dollars.

Nine trillion is nine thousand milliard.

Yes that is the correct word.

BlackRock in the case of BlackRock nine trillion dollars.

In the case of Northvolt the state invested nine billion Swedish crowns.

It's a smaller number but that was our pension money.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

So people are starting to realize that they don't give a shit.

And of course the family Wallenberg they have investor it's the miniature version of BlackRock.

The smaller version of BlackRock investor.

The Wallenberg family of course invested in Northvolt.

And the head of the family what does he say in TV?

Well sometimes companies succeed and sometimes they fail.

Yeah.

This is not people.

I spoke to a great influencer in Sweden that's by the name of Ida the other day.

She interviewed me and she said those people don't see themselves as humans so they don't care

if they are posing a threat to humanity.

That's true.

All right Bobo beautifully put.

Steve in the last few questions we've got 10 more minutes Bobo we'll let you go to bed.

And Celia thank you so much for organizing this.

Steven over to you and then we'll go to Tom Rodman video.

Yeah.

Meeting for those with the time.

So Bobo we've been looking so I don't want to mess this presentation.

Up by things I say but we've been looking for some time for someone to.

So we formed this group or I formed this group to with I didn't realize at the time but I came to

realize that the reason I formed it and we got all these different speakers from different

backgrounds was that we needed to understand what had happened in 2020 and what is still happening

now.

And there was no chance we were ever going to do that if we didn't speak to as many different

people as possible because that's how we understand things as human beings.

I now realize so I didn't know that when I formed the group but I knew that I had to do it.

So I can tell you about that another time because I don't want to miss.

I don't want to make this that's about me but listening to you talking to in answer to Peter

Huguet's question you clearly articulated a strategy in your mind and I don't understand

how you've managed it really.

So one of the problems has been that we I felt that we've been getting closer and closer to

the truth you know obviously we'll never achieve the truth because we're mere human beings but

but we can get closer and closer and I think we're getting to the stage now where you know

three months ago my opinion about what was happening is happening hasn't changed much

from you know now my opinion about what is happening hasn't changed much from three months

ago or even six months ago but in 2020 and 2021 it was changing almost daily it was like you know

certainly weekly and you were struggling to kind of it's a bit like the Democrats you know in

America now when Trump hits the road running after four years of plotting against the Democrats

and whomever and they are overwhelmed by all these executive orders you know the Democrats

so actually they can't even answer one never mind all of them and that was the idea of course so

so I think that some that now things are settling down but the problem has been

I've been thinking we need someone who has an ability to articulate what has happened

and I think you may be the closest thing to that I'm not kind of trying to big you up it's just that

you like all of us you know we were playing roles in all this you know but we didn't really know

what was going on and when empires fall they fall because we don't understand why they fall and even

when they have fallen and so I just wonder whether you think in your mind because I sometimes

notice that you are very confident but you're justifiably confident because you kind of

war game everything in your mind you know you can't think of everything obviously

but we'll we'll try and help you in the future do you think yes do you think in the end that

you might be able to articulate the evil of what happened in 2020 and is continuing now

yes I think so yes because since I was a child I've had many special experiments

and I've always felt that there are many dimensions and that what we are experienced

what we are experiencing is all about the inside the inside is everything our perception is what

there is and I've also studied the bible and before Nicholas got ill I was very intensively

studying the bible for some reason I've worked in the spiritual business a little bit

I was very satisfied with having clients as a psychic medium and it wasn't very satisfying

for me because I didn't feel that my clients were often a little bit hysterical and I didn't feel

them I didn't always feel that I that they wanted what they needed

they wanted to relate to their guides they wanted to share they wanted to communicate with dead

people that I saw were clearly not able to communicate sometimes I saw dead people sitting

in their car totally confused you know there was no point of communicating with them and

I felt more and more that they have to understand something deeper and beyond the words of the bible

and I'm talking about the first books the genesis and I'm talking about also

the revelation there is a war mentioned

in the heavens and there is an uprising mentioned and beyond all those words

beyond those words that are colored by historical context and so on and people's

beliefs and all there is something happening that has to do with

with wrong groups wanting to be in charge absolutely and those wrong groups that want to be in charge

is clearly from the bible and I it's not actually actually it's not only the bible because we can

go back to Sumeria and their myths and we can also look in the book of Enoch that is a book

treasured by the jews you know so it's not a christian book I mean obviously the book of

Enoch the book of Enoch is from 300 years before Christ and in the book of Enoch this war is also

mentioned and in the Sumerian myths that is a couple of thousand years before the book of Enoch

this war is also mentioned and it's a war between species that created humanity and

and those are divided so one group wants us to have a free will and to explore and develop as

yeah as it's as we're supposed to and to be creative and to overcome our duality and to

overcome conflicts and to overcome fear as you were talking about earlier Charles and

and to overcome our spiritual weaknesses so one group of gods one group of creators want

the best for us and another group wants to need to

destroy us to erase us

yes that is my conclusion so um I would just want to say this Charles um so Bobo I think you're

uh you know you were described as I think in that book title as the worst internet

troller in Sweden yes but paradoxically or surprisingly maybe to some people anyway

that trolling is actually helping you in in in in your articulation of what we're up against and

what you described so well to to Peter Huger would you agree with that or not

yeah it was never for me as I said it was some kind of experimenting with discourses and narratives

and and uh how to make people

make people

I was interested in if I could create some kind of insecurity in very

statical views and perspectives because what's interesting is that and this is actually important

we have a possibility right now to make people turn their political and financial leaders

their backs

en masse

we can make millions billions of people turn their leaders and the system their back

and stretch their hands to one another that's all we have to do actually to move humanity forward

to make people be more solidaric in their everyday life yeah yes of course it's very

to feel solidarity with other human beings if all the while other human beings are creating

tensions between human beings in other words causing division so um but having said that

we don't agree with each other too much either I just wanted one last thing so do you think to

really understand something very difficult to understand but would would you do you do you

agree that it's possible that we have to have an intuitive understanding and a lot of people say

oh it's all about the logic um they say for example they say Trump who was wrong about this

and wrong about that you know and I say I say but it doesn't matter whether he was wrong about this

and that people want to believe him anyway people on our side you know want to believe him anyway

so they just go along with the feeling come on that's with the intuitive understanding

why would you interrupt there I don't understand I guess you've heard about oh time why are we

correct time okay because people have lives to live sorry but I will answer I will answer

brief briefly I guess you all know about the German old tale about a man that comes to a village

in Hamlen and as I recall it the people wants him to get rid of the rats right

but there's something I'm sorry I can't recall all of it but I heard it as a child and

they don't pay him as I recall it they don't pay him and he gets he gets vengeful so he uses his

technique to lure the children of the village away from the village and they never they are never

seen again the children are taken from their parents

a tone is used he's using a flute to do it it's the same principle as in Mozart's

opera the magic flute the magic flute it's a tone he uses a tone

and there are certain tones that can be used both to save people and to exterminate them

and I think that is very important with Trump that he is using the magic flute to do it

to evoke something in the people that is that is potentially very very dangerous

Carl Gustav Jung he spoke it before Hitler and he spoke about

the death of the German Emperor in the war and he spoke about the death of the German Emperor

Hitler and he spoke about

Wotan an old ancient Nordic god an aspect of Odin so he said the Nazis were going to evoke

something really terrible a shadow in the German people and there are large amounts of energy hidden

in ordinary people that the right flute can awake but what is interesting with Trump is that he's

also soothing comforting guiding and kind of amusing people so I think he's absolutely not

think he's a new Hitler I think he is using the flow I think he's using his flute in a very

interesting way but I think the last thing I will say is that this is not enough

we have to compensate in the states as well as in Europe and everywhere in the world we will have to

compensate the breakdown of the financial elite the breakdown of globalism the breakdown of all

this terrible stuff is not enough something has to be compensated in everyday life it's a new

cult as I said it's a new culture without central power needed and that is so we will have to

we will need many many flutes absolutely so that's brilliant all right thank you so much

thank you Bobo thank you Silvia thank you everybody thank you with the time we will be in touch

thank you everybody for being here bye bye thank you thank you