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So everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and today's discussion
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this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost.
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Over three years ago with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health,
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Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower
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and activist. His medical specialty is radiology. We think about all people who are being punished
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for their fight for freedom, including Rainer Formick who's in jail in Germany unlawfully.
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And there was a big Astrid Stuckleburger was talking at Geneva outside the UN supporting Rainer,
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all of us who are interested, please take an interest in Rainer Formick and his wife Inka.
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And we have to shine a light on Rainer's plight and other freedom warriors. I'm Charles Kovace,
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moderator of this group. I'm in Australia, in Melbourne, Australia.
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I've practiced law for 20 years and 31 years ago I changed Korea to become Australasia's
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passion provocateur. We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world.
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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay. Now many of us proudly say we are passionate anti-vaxxers
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as we've had numerous experts come onto these into these meetings and tell us and the recordings
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are available. There's never been a proper safety and efficacy test on any vaccine ever given to
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humanity. If this is your first time here, welcome. Feel free to introduce yourself in the chat and
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where you're from. If you publish a newsletter or a podcast or you have a radio or TV show or you've
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written a book, put the links in the chat so we can follow you, promote you and find you. That includes
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you, Jim and Celia. Celia put your substack link in there and Jim and put it through in there a
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couple of times because people come a bit later into the meeting. Most of us understand we're
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in the middle of World War Three and that the medical science battle is only one of 12 battlefields
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of this latest world war. There's no time to be tied. We're four years into what I consider to be
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a seven-year war. We're over halfway but three years to go so no telling yourself I'm sick of this war.
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Most of us understand the development of science and that the science is never settled.
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Some of us believe that viruses exist. Some of us believe that viruses are a hoax.
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Some of us are on the fence and many of us consider that having a debate on that issue
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distracts us from the core attacks on our freedoms and our rights. This meeting runs for two and a
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half hours after which for those with the time there may or may not today be a video telegram
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meeting. Tom Rodman won't be with us today. Gary Hawkins may well organise that. We will listen to
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our guest presenters Dr James Thorpe and Celia Farber. We'll talk to James as Jim for as long
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they wish to speak and the order in which they've decided to speak about a new book that
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they have put together. Then we have Q&A. Stephen Frost, by a long established tradition,
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asked the first question for 15 minutes. There's a free speech environment. If you're offended by
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anything be offended. We're lovingly not interested. We reject the offence industry that requires
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nobody to say anything that may offend. In other words, we come with an attitude and perspective
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of love, not fear. Fear is the opposite of love. Fear squashes you. Love on the other hand
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expands you. The great challenge with love is to love those who have different opinions to you.
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Big challenge. These twice weekly meetings are not just talk fests. An extraordinary range of
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actions and initiatives have been generated from linkages made by attendees in these meetings.
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If you have a solution or product or links or resources that will help people put the
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details into the chat, the meeting is recorded and uploaded onto the Rumble channel. Now welcome to
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our guest presenters Celia Farber and Jim Thorpe. We thank both of you so much for sharing your
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genius and wisdom with us. I want to do a quick, for the purposes of the recording, I want to do a quick
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background on both of you and I think the easiest way to do that is summarise your bias for those
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who haven't received the invitation to the meeting. Celia Farber calls herself a war correspondent
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and the main war she's lived through and covered in detail between 1987 and 2008,
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21 years was the HIV war. She wrote exposé pieces about Anthony Fauci's HIV tyranny and how it
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demolished true biology and science in America in both in spin and later harpers. She was targeted
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by numerous vicious discrediting campaigns. Her work rose to prominence again in 2020 as COVID was
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understood to have been modeled on the terror and fake science. She and others documented in AIDS.
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She considers herself now a historian of HIV AIDS descent. In 2021 her work was heavily cited
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in Bobby Kennedy's book The Real Anthony Fauci and Bobby has spoken to this group, his recording is
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available and Celia featured also in a documentary of the same name in March 2023. Chelsea Green reissued
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her stillborn 2006 book Serious Adverse Events An Uncensored History of AIDS.
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Celia was born in New York City, raised in Sweden, she's the daughter of the late radio legend Barry
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Farber. He gave her her favourite journalistic imperative motto, penetrate the ostensible.
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I love it, penetrate the ostensible. Her undergrad degree at New York Uni's skeleton division was in
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classic literature. She's written articles on many subjects in many outlets. In 2008 she was the
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recipient with Peter Juesberg of the Semmelweis Society of Clean Hands Award for Investigative
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Journalism from the Semmelweis Society International. That society was so besieged by protests from paid
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AIDS professionals it led to years of litigation and SSI had to close its doors.
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For those who have never heard of Ignaz Semmelweis take a look, Hungarian
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doctor of the middle mid-19th century who was harassed for speaking the truth
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and died very young. Celia writes a popular substack called the truth barrier.
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Jim Thorpe is a board certified obstetrician, gynaecologist and maternal fetal medicine
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physician with over 44 years of obstetrical experience. He is married to a wonderful legal
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practitioner. So Jim I like your connection to the law there. Jim Thorpe has seen over 27,500
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high risk pregnancies in the last four and a half years while serving one of the largest
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Catholic healthcare systems SSM Health of St Louis. SSM Health fired him for no cause. In 2023 it was
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subsequently proven that SSM Health received $26 million from HHS CDC COVID funding and likely
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captured by the covenant with death contract with HHS. Home and what is it? Home and homeland and
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something HHS Jim? SSM Health, sisters of St Mary's Health, about a 10 billion dollar Catholic
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hospital system, one of the largest in the United States of America and just for a matter of record
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they took 307 million dollars from the Department of Health and Human Services in early 2021.
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How much is that number? 107 million.
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307 million dollars. 307 million health and human services there you are everybody in the CDC.
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Charles a third of a billion almost. A billion US dollars real money, well used to be anyway.
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Jim Thorpe declined a very large sum of money for a termination agreement.
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James Thorpe is the chief of maternal and prenatal health at the wellness company. He served as a
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reviewer for major medical journals on the board of directors for the society of maternal fetal
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medicine for three years and as an examiner. He served in the US Air Force as obstetrician
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gynaecologist having been awarded a health profession scholarship for his medical
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school education where he received an award for being the top student at Wayne State University.
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He then attended University of Colorado Denver. Jim testified in the US Senate under the Bush
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administration in 2003 for his expertise in treating the fetus as a patient within
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utero therapies and on December 7 2022. Jim Thorpe testified in the Senate with Senator
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Ron Johnson and others while serving as a very busy clinician his entire career. He has also
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been very active in clinical research with 240 publications including 68 COVID related. Jim Thorpe
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published a book last year on the COVID pandemic and his latest book that's available examines
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vaccines in pregnancies which is what we're going to talk about today. So Jim we're jointly produced
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with Celia Farber that's why they're here and so thank you both for being here. Thank you Stephen
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Frost again for creating the group. Over to you Jim and Celia. Well thank you very much for having
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both of us and I really look forward to this interaction. I see many of my friends in the
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audience and I appreciate them. I see Dr. Jerry haven't seen him in a while and I also see my
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friend Dr. Jerome Corsi. Jerome thanks for joining us. He's a wow he's a he's a truther
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and I see my friend Albert Benavides. Welcome Eagle88. Thanks for joining us Albert. Celia it's
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so good to see you and I'm so glad you're safe and sound over on the other side of the pond. So Celia
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why don't you take it away. It's been such an honor and a privilege for me to know you Celia
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and to work with you over the last year and I'm really really excited. I'll tell you what Jim
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first I'll tell you what I'm thinking right now is do you have a possibility of showing our cover?
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Can we show folks our cover or we? Sure I could do that if you want. Why don't you
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why don't you go ahead and start talking and share some of your brilliance. You know
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Celia I just want to say something about Celia. She's one of the most talented writers I've ever
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had the ability to work with and there's two parts of the brain you know you have the
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what is the left side and the right side and there's this structure that connects the two
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sides of the brain. Well Celia and I I'm so honored because she has got all of the one side
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of the brain and I've got a little bit of the other side of the brain and those two parts of
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the brain is connected by a large series of white matter that's called the corpus callosum. So we
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we are working together with another lady who is acting as our corpus callosum in our brain to
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connect our brains and I'm so excited about this endeavor and this new book. I'll look for that
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cover Celia while you take it away. Yes someone else is also trying to find it so thank you.
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Celia I'd just like to say that I agree with you James she is a brilliant writer even her emails
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are interesting. Oh I know I know. So that says a lot. So you bring your emails to life Celia it's
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wonderful to observe this. Well I feel more and more thank you for that. I um Jim is really the
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Jim is the I know we don't really like the word authority especially these days but Jim is the
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the authority here and I am the the scribe. I've I've I've listened to him we've had many many
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many conversations. He's the science the medicine the proof the history the doctor and I am the
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storyteller. So I guess I will I'll give you a little I'll give you the landscape of the book
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and Jim is going to give you the hardcore proof. I was thinking initially that we would do it the
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other way around but that's fine we'll do it this way. I will I don't have a prepared talk but I've
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had many many years to think about this. This is actually a culmination when I started working
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with Jim on this book about almost a year ago now. As I was working on it I realized as we were
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working I realized that this is a theme a late motif and obsession also with my my old enemy
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AIDS Inc our old enemy. They were also obsessed with as obsessed is a the term correct word that
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Naomi Wolf always uses when she says they are obsessed with targeting reproduction
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and they were also obsessed with targeting reproduction during the HIV AIDS epoch.
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They actually Jim and I have been back and forth okay let me pause for a second and just name our
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title so I give us a little bit of an anchor. I don't know if we have the image. Yes we do.
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Someone it's been Celia it's been posted into the chat. It's buyable but it's not finished
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yet. I have one more I have four interviews still to transcribe and about one more week of
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final sections and we can't say exactly what the pub date is but it's very close to finished
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and we really appreciate being able to come on here and talk about it. This is the first time
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we've done so there it is sacrifice how the deadliest vaccine in history targeted the most
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vulnerable and Jim I just want has been so generous with me that he always said I'm
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I'm not going to let you be a ghostwriter you're going to be a co-author
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but I always have this impulse to say I'm just describing what he actually knows but okay you
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get that. We'll hear from Jim shortly. So I feel first of all that this part of the horror
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the horror we're in the horror that brings us all together how we we cling together right and we
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survive it somehow but the part of the horror that is what they've done to mothers and babies is
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taboo and quieted down even within the most robust parts of the medical freedom movement.
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I don't think that's a deliberate slight against women and babies but I've noticed it
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and maybe it's because as I experience myself it is simply so this is probably as painful as
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anything in this story gets. We got toward the end of our manuscript in recent weeks
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and we were talking back and forth Jim and I and our wonderful editor Ann
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and you know we were saying it's it's just death death death death and it's it's so sad and it's
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so incredibly difficult to to fathom and the brain just wants to shut down even I the co-author of
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the book sometimes I I just don't know what to do with the emotions that come up this is so so so
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evil. We did manage to get so we said we have to we have to look for some light some rays of hope
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and we did actually find it. Our most of you probably know the amazing whistleblower who
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you came to know as Michelle Gershman whose name is now help me Jim her name is Michelle.
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Spencer. Spencer. She she blew the whistle on she leaked a just mind-blowing email that she got
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on her in her email at work one morning she is out on the west coast at a major hospital where
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she works on a delivery floor as a as a nurse and the memo admitted the the carnage but as is
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characteristic of this this horror and these people driving it it totally obscured the actual
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horror itself and made it all about how do we dispose of the deceased babies there are so many
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and people aren't disposing of them correctly and you know it's really hard to find the words it
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gets so so gory so macabre but the memo spoke to buckets and salt water and refrigerators and
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you just cannot believe your your ears or your eyes this is this is it's like a desensitization
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syndrome in the United States of America that our book is is about the American story we don't go
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all over the world but this the story is playing out all over the world so Michelle Gershman was
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seeing every day she came to work so many they were both they were stillborn or they died just
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before birth Jim will give us the definitions of what is this what is a stillbirth and what is a
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fetal death and what is a miscarriage but you get the idea just a huge rise and she said and and she
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couldn't talk to anybody what is happening and this is a story we've heard from many of our people in
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the book that nobody will speak to it nobody will cry or make a sound or say anything or react
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so the whole thing is playing out on this this landscape of like like some kind of sci-fi movie
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where nobody will give words to what is happening and that's I so appreciate when you when you
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tell me that my words are reaching you because I do feel that words words words are the beginning
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of freedom the beginning of of clarity and truth and they did so much of what they did with black
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magic word use and so I believe very much in the power of the right words chosen to describe
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something that when we have the right words we can finally feel it and and face it and confront it
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and what we are depicting in this book is a
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a horror that actually actually dwarfs what most people know as the great horror of
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maternal fetal history which is thalidomide
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totally dwarfs it I did write a whole chapter about thalidomide I became very very
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interested in the the deep forensic history of thalidomide to see to do a sort of compare and
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contrast things have gotten much worse since then in thalidomide there actually was a criminal
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trial in Germany I don't know if many of you know that but with you folks you probably all know that
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the company that made thalidomide chemigrunenthal post-war German company
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people with high ranking former Nazis that company to this day is a very successful huge
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pharmaceutical company it took them 50 years to formally apologize to the victims and nobody
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contests thalidomide being the cause of thalidomide deformities and deaths
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but now I finally figured out how they have used thalidomide to
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it's so evil to obscure and distort what's happening now with the mass deaths
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of babies both unborn and born whose mothers have taken the COVID shots
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the way they did that was the sort of well we all we know that we know what we mean when we say a
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PsiOp so the PsiOp after thalidomide has been that oh thanks to thalidomide the world woke up and we
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and of course totally heroic Francis Kelsey at the United States FDA who stopped it at the end
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of the world who stopped it in the states quite rightly got all kinds of awards and distinctions
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from then president John F. Kennedy there were congressional laws that came came that were written
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and and the the big idea was now we really have to have proper testing in general and we have to
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have proper testing in general and of course for anything given to pregnant women so that is what
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most people believe that there was this moment of catastrophe and after that we all learned our
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lesson and now we're in this well-lit safe place where nothing like that can happen again
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nothing could be farther from the truth one thing that Jim always hammered home from our very first
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discussions was he uses the phrase the golden rule the golden rule of obstetrical medicine we
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all know it give absolutely no untested substance to a pregnant woman ever ever ever so how did they
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do it how did they break down every wall prohibition taboo everything they did it with a colossal
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a tidal wave of money a tidal wave of money that primarily comes straight down on the three
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and this is the work of Jim and his wife Maggie who through who through rigorous FOIA requests
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found out what exactly had gone down transaction wise between the Department of Defense the US
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Government and the pillars of maternal fetal medicine and I'm getting into Jim terrain here
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I want he'll do much more justice to this they that's a bog a cog let me spell them out the
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association sorry help me Jim a bog a American American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology
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a bog the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists a cog and the Society for
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Maternal Fetal Medicine SMFM thank you I'll get it I'll get it one day right so those three they're
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supposed to be the sort of guardian saints at the gate that that protect catastrophes like Philanmide
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from hack me and they they weigh in on what you know everything for everything pertaining
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to pregnancy and safety and and they not just weigh in they are the the very arbiter so when
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this happened they were we found a hockey stick and the hockey stick was pretty I guess I would
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started in 2019 and the hockey stick goes like that I don't have the exact numbers but you know
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just tens of millions crashed down on these organizations all of a sudden they are just
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women all pregnant women to take the covid shots plural throughout pregnancy from it from and of
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course we know Rachel what is her name? Wolinski. Thank you. There is no bad time I mean this utter
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madness to take a covid shot so those organizations what they put in place was something so evil that
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that not only did that so as Jim has pointed out many times that the relationship between your ob-gyn
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pregnant women that is a trusted it's a it's a there's no women don't go into that relationship
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thinking they have any reason not to trust that doctor speaking to them so once they penetrated
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there they had already won the game because most women like I say had no no reason to distrust it
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no reason to go home and research it we're told it was absolutely safe and absolutely effective
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now let me let me toss it back to thalidomide for a moment they also part of the advertising
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campaign for thalidomide was that it was you know wasn't just safe it was like ridiculously safe it
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was so safe there was nothing safer had ever been given to pregnant they're so so so safe
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thalidomide and the marketing of thalidomide had been because women had had babies had children
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were going around at the time and so that became a media story so the the advertising agencies
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pushing at working for the drug companies and the distributors they all got together and their
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campaign was thalidomide is the thalidomide will save your child from dying of an overdose of
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quail ouds I kid you not that was part of the marketing campaign so I spent a lot of time
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rooting around in this and I see all the themes but they were much more crude back then and they're
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much more sophisticated now so the book has essentially two halves and one half is
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essentially Celia and one half is essentially Jim the Celia side is where I'm telling stories
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from real people and it's it's mothers who have suffered losses it's we have a param a paramedic
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you may know him Harry Fisher we have whistleblowers we have oh there's also a lot of
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a lot of voices that I pulled from from social media one of the places where you really see
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the truth of this story is actually in comment sections which I know scientists just shudder to
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think that comment sections on social media is where anybody would find a scientific truth
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but this thing is so impossible to bottle and capture in a net and quantify and prove you can't
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get statistics for fatal deaths in the United States comparing you can't get it in the UK
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comparing for example 2020 2021 2022 you just can't get them so the story is
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the story is very obscured and I think that the enemy is very sensitive about this story coming out
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I don't I think we're going to have a rough time of it when the book comes out but we will buckle up
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Jim and Naomi Wolf have done a tremendous job I think many people are prepared for a lot of
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what's in the book not for everything that's in the book I guess I'll just say a few things about
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a ray of hope because I really believe we need we need as we fight we need to believe that there is
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some light at the end of the tunnel Michelle did tell us in a an interview we did just about a week
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ago that she's she's seeing a far fewer dead babies now than say a year ago and two years ago
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so she said it had slowed way down and I felt like oh thank god and I can I need to tell people that
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because there comes a point where it's just too much even even for us right there has to be
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in god's universe that that I believe that the even the poisons are like this is just my point
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of view god is working so hard on this and women are women have lost numerous pregnancies we
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interviewed the grandparents of a um so their daughter-in-law had lost eight not just eight
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pregnancies in all trimesters including several of them second and third trimester one of them
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the most recent was full term since she took the shots in 2021 so this is not trivial the tricky
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thing is there are also parts of the field where you hardly see it at all so it's I I hope Jim will
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address and I don't have the answer to why were so many children born seemingly okay and so many
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met instead this catastrophe I don't understand it but I'd like Jim to address that and basically
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something it has something about it that goes beyond even everything else and of course they
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want to kill they want to kill they want to kill they want to kill life they want to destroy
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life we know that but this it represents something
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extra-dimensional to these people and it represents
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for me my interpretation is that it's it's a sort of satanic idea that what I will call God's plan
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and creation is nothing unless and until they get in there with their high-tech poisons and fix it
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right and really nothing could be more more satanic or evil um but that that's the point
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they the drugs mostly hit and mostly killed sexually active gay men AZT killed some 300 000
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but in the early 90s I started to notice as a reporter covering AIDS they really wanted to
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target pregnant women they really wanted pregnant women now pregnancy in HIV AIDS was one of the
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ways that people could test what we call false positive for what we call HIV so just being pregnant
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could very easily trigger a positive HIV test so they had this drive that in the beginning they
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told all pregnant women get tested get tested get tested if you test positive abort abort abort
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so there were lots of abortions for wanted children because the and this was on shows like
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remember Zika they told women all over especially Latin America that they should just have abortions
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and they and they did you know so they're always coming out with this there's this terrible thing
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and you may as well have an abortion so that's usually the first part of the op
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um what they did with HIV AIDS was it's it's so it's so shocking I will I will never get used to
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this but they they broke and I've told Jim this and he actually wasn't aware of this but they this
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wall that he speaks of the the golden rule that we all thought was there after thalidomide was
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broken down by AIDS I don't want to call them AIDS Inc I need a better term well the AIDS cabal
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well the AIDS cabal in 1994 they achieved a victory which was they came up with a totally
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as all their studies false corrupt study called ACTG 076 and they claimed it proved that women
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who uh took AZT AZT a teratogen mutagen carcinogen throughout gestation had a much better chance like
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50 percent better chance of not giving birth to an HIV positive baby and this actually flew and it
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was in all the papers and cover of New York Times and it was the big victory and because HIV had
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that branding like it was so deadly and new and deadly and horrible so nobody at the time thought
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to go up against the HIV op like should you really be giving you know Drano
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to pregnant women the the spell was so thick in those days that the baby the everybody you know
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HIV just meant instant death so the important thing is to realize and even after what is it 37
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years in this field or maybe it's more than that I still make the mistake of trying to understand
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how they're thinking they're not trying to understand what they what they could possibly
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mean or think trying to give them some kind of benefit of the doubt that is a huge mistake
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they they write these colossal dark evil deadly spells and they write them in accordance with
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human psychology and a mother's psychology is a very easy easy target all you have to do is tell
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an expecting mother if you don't do this your baby is at risk and she will do what you're telling
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her to do unless she has some very fortunate reason to know otherwise so I'll kind of wrap
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it there and hand it over to Jim I'm really happy that you're able to be with us and talk
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about this and we we will need you we'll need your support when the book comes out
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and I I think I have a lot more to say but I'll leave it for the question
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question and answer session thank you thanks Celia thank you Celia Jim over to you
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yeah thank you very much Celia that was awesome it was early 2020
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yeah you know I've had 45 years of clinical experience now 45 years this month 45 years
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of obstetrical experience and Celia writes about this so eloquently I think I mentioned to her
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that my dear god in heaven I felt like I was somewhere in the twilight zone because how did
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this all come about you know I have been using hydroxychloroquine in pregnancy for 40 years
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it's been used since the Inca Indians in the mid 1600s as a stalwart powerful therapeutic
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the Jesuits capitalized on that when they were evangelizing in South America and you know
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hydroxychloroquine has been used in every single war since then including the Revolutionary War
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the Civil War World War I and World War II Vietnam it's been very very safe and effective why did I
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use it in pregnancy well because of the fact that pregnant women and women are pregnant and
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because of the fact that pregnant women and women of reproductive age have a very high incidence of
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autoimmune disease probably vaccine induced prior to the COVID vaccine the childhood vaccine schedules
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and such yeah so we and rheumatologists family practice internal medicine you know that was our
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stalwart of therapy hydroxychloroquine and when these women of reproductive age became pregnant
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we didn't take them off it was safe in the first trimester second trimester third trimester
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and even in in postpartum breastfeeding and even in children and the so all of a sudden now people
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people just I don't understand I told Celia I feel like I was in the Twilight Zone
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and then she brought this she's such a gifted author I just love her writing style and this
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book would have been just a worthless without her really because she just wove it together and all
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of a sudden she comes up with this prose of out of the the obsolete man out of Rod Sterling's
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Twilight Zone right and and that was me because they they I knew they were coming after the women
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and I the pharmacies were coming after me I I worked locally here taking not only was I seeing
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you know 27,800 high-risk obese for in the last four and a half years but when I wasn't working
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and that was through telemedicine and SSM health in St. Louis also Washington University is part
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of that system and but I worked with a couple of docs one special doc here Dr. Deb Viglione a
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freedom fighter and she and I treated a lot of really sick patients because none of the other
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doctors would see him you know they were all scared so we saw a lot of sick patients a lot of
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military veterans and so on and so forth but so I became just couldn't understand why all of a
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sudden they were villainizing hydroxychloroquine and then they did the same thing with ivermectin
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and why they were making ridiculous statements like okay just go home there's no early treatment
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well that flies in the face of six millennia it's six millennia of known fact that the earlier you
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treat any disease the better the outcome is so I was afraid that we were being targeted I was very
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concerned and then as 2020 came up was and they were going to wrap out this mRNA vaccine I was
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scared to death I had planned a gold standard of a study that would have required it was a randomized
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double-blind placebo control trial would have been 35,000 patients in the vaccine group and 35,000
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patients in the placebo group that's how many patients it would have taken because my end point
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was an increase in death rate from from one in 10,000 to four and 10,000 over a 10-year period
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anyways there would be would have been an interim analysis every year by an independent group
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so that if there was a benefit or a danger it would have immediately been stopped
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obviously because it would have been unethical to continue but the unblinding wouldn't have been
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performed for 10 years if there was no significant effect with long-term outcome right so that was
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summarily rejected by the way I wasn't the only one that did my individual plans my friend Dr.
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Steve Hatfield who was in the White House at the time Dr. Hatfield is a genius he was a he was a
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veteran like I am military veteran and he was in the White House war room you know and he and
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Peter Navarro and and President Trump at the time they amassed 62 million doses of hydroxychloroquine
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until they got stabbed in the back had they treated the American people with that
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the pandemic would have ended in August of that year it would have ended but instead of it was
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villainized by the fraudulent Lancet Journal article Dr. Mandeep Mehra of Harvard University
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cardiologist and by the way that was ghostwritten by probably ghostwritten by Pfizer that article
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that he published it was completely fraudulent as was the New England Journal of Medicine article
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not quite a year and a month later by Shimabukuro pushing it in pregnancy as safe effective and
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necessary so anyways we proceeded in that year and sure enough in 2021 we were saying oh we're
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not going to use it in pregnant women we're not going to mandate it if pregnant women want to take
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it fine and then within a matter of nine months nine months on September 27th 2021 the chief
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executive director of the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology my colleague my
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contemporary right I was an examiner with him with that board during the 90s right and he comes out
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and has the American College of Obstetricians the American Board of Medical Specialties
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the Federation of State Medical Boards the American Board of Medical Specialties and the Society for
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Maternal Fetal Medicine all invoked in this sloppy poorly written one-page threat that amassed and
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went out to every single 60,000 ob-gyn physicians not only in the United States of America all six
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provinces of Canada and some countries in South America and under without any well there were some
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references which I'll make light of it was basically a one-page threat don't you dare
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deviate from our narrative don't you dare deviate or we will strip you of your medical licensure
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and all of your board certifications which I worked my whole life to get right and so did other
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younger doctors so at about that time I was outraged and I started I duplicated their
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their insignias and put a red hammer and sickle and in it and floated it all over the internet and I
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guess that upset Dr. Wendell and he got a hold of me and threatened me again said did you really do
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this I said yeah yeah I did I did do it why are you pushing this this is outrageous threaten me
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again so in early 2022 I wrote a 98 page letter which anybody can pull up right now it's been on
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the internet since just google or duck duck go search engine James A. Thorpe open letter to the
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American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology and that 98 page letter included all of my extensive
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analytics from the government database some visor data right and also multiple other pieces of data
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and if that weren't enough it included 1019 references of journal articles peer-reviewed
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medical journal articles that I read I studied I copied every single one of those 1019 references
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in just the first 12 months of the rollout that documented severe injury catastrophic
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complications and deaths 1019 probably probably three or four thousand authors globally that
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risked their life to put their name on that paper and I submitted to Dr. George Wendell the rest of
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the board at the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology and it was published over two and a half
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years ago now do you think they responded I wanted to debate them I wanted to debate anybody in the
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world how did you break the golden rule of pregnancy how did 60,000 OBGYN doctors the
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Maternal Fetal Medicine simultaneously at about the same time use the exact same language you
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will do this or we will strip you I it was total fascism at that point Tom I've never seen anything
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like it in my life so do you think they responded no crickets because they knew they had broken the
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golden rule of pregnancy they knew they were dead wrong and that I was right they knew that I would
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tear them apart in pieces in any type of a debate the one page threat that they sent out and and I
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I call this they reference nothing more than a grocery market tabloid literally a grocery
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market tabloid called med page today it's not peer reviewed it was written by a by by by a lay
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journalist they quote this lay journalist and they're citing a bunch of hearsay from University of
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Alabama Birmingham so we now know that the entire medical complex has been captured I knew at that
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time sorry to interrupt you could you name a few people yeah on board who were supporting the guy
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you were you were you have named uh just for the record yeah for the record Dr Susan Raymond was
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my colleague and she and I have published together earlier in my career Dr uh Dr George Wendell
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W E N D E L L was the uh and he subsequently put his tail between his legs and absconded off into
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obscurity he retired there's a there's a new young uh director now uh and you know I I won't name I
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I won't name any of the others but I will name personally and other organizations here that I
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I hold accountable now you might say to me well Dr Thorpe you're just full of baloney sausage you
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know this is safe and effective look at look at all the journal articles published in the peer
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review journal article saying that it's safe and effective well um you know I will tell you
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that there's only four
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totally irrefutable undeniable evidence four sources of data that can never be ever refuted
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and why is that because they're all open source number one number two all four of those come from
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sources that are heavily biased to pushing the vaccine and and I'll just you know I'll carefully
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go go through those uh each of those four off the top of my head and I don't know if if uh I won't
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share my screen I have them all memorized but you know the first one is the legally mandated
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the legally mandated post-market analysis every device drug vaccine medical device
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when it's rolled out to the public until 90 days it has you have to give a report of all the adverse
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events with that rollout in 12 weeks and submitted to the HHS CDC and FDA okay well that was done but
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it was with with Pfizer it was allegedly from December 1st 2020 to February 28th 2021 uh as a
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matter of fact it really didn't roll out December 1st about two weeks later so it's only 10 weeks of
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data right so on page seven and by the way that document Pfizer 5.3.6 PHMPT
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search engine right now even pulled out page seven this was the deadliest drug it was ever
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rolled out in the history of medicine probably in the history of humanity this is not Peter
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McCullough's data this is not Celia's data you know this is not Albert Benavides data
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this is Pfizer's data and they tried to hide it for 75 years and it's a while they knew that I had
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that data many of you had that data because a whistleblower released it now it wasn't the
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whistleblower released it it was available in spring of 2021 Rochelle Walensky had that of
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course they had that data it was legally mandated for Pfizer to give it to them they received it
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February 28th 2021 right so now Aaron Seary and the informed consent action network
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sued them did a FOIA request they tried to hide it for 75 years federal judge made him release it
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wasn't released until you know about a year later April Fool's Day April 1st 2022 and of course it
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was identical to the document that we knew was verifiable it had Pfizer fingerprints all over
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a year before that was released by the whistleblower so so look at on page seven
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look at up there in the top right hand corner there were 42,086 casualties
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42,086 casualties look at the women to men ratio of those casualties it was about 3.2 or 3.3 I don't
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have the end it with a very tight confidence interval extraordinarily tight women were targeted
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for two reasons and I'll tell you why those two reasons were number one the the government
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did do a lot of due diligence and they did do good research it wasn't in science although they knew
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the science but they did their marketing research and they knew that it's women that make all the
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health care decisions and that transcends color of skin religious ethnicity country of origin
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that's just the way God made men and women different you know I don't make any of my health
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care decisions Maggie makes them all I'm sure the same as a true with the rest of doctor's wives
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that's just the way it is they knew that and hospitals have known that marketers they market
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towards women so that's the number one reason the second reason is contrary to you know probably not
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many amongst us but our liberal friends on the other side and I hate to break this news to you
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but you know men can't get pregnant only women can get pregnant you can either be a male or a
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female you can either be a man and you can't get credit so they wanted to target pregnant women
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okay why because if they targeted pregnant women everybody knows that's the most vulnerable
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population and if they can amass their now what's known to be five trillion dollars spent on the
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sham over the last four years five trillion dollars if they can convince the world that it's
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safe effective and necessary and pregnant women they've won the game everybody else in the world
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should be vaccinated because they're the most vulnerable that's why they went after women
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but also in that 42,086 casualties there were 1,223 dead in just 10 weeks and a huge proportion of
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those died they were otherwise well they died within a couple of days the vaccine okay that's
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uh you know just unheard of you know we 1976 swine flu vaccine I was a second year medical
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student student in Detroit 26 dead from swine flu vaccine immediately removed from the market
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turn of the century rotavirus vaccine no deaths a spate of cases of a minor bowel complication
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called intersusception immediately removed from the market something was different something was
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very very wrong so um and by the way if you analyze from the casualties 42,086 casualties with
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1,223 dead you know and I'm really shocked that nobody else has really made a big deal out of it
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I seem to be the only one screaming about this the injured to kill ratio is 33.4 what does that mean
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that means for every individual killed multiply that and that's how many are injured so for example
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dr daniel ancor says okay there's been 17 million people globally killed almost a year ago far more
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than that multiply that times 33.4 to see how many were injured you get a total of 585 million global
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citizens killed and injured okay it's much more than that now and you know you may say rightfully
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so that okay those that injured to kill ratio you know a lot of those casualties were relatively
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minor maybe but I tell you what is true a huge unprecedented of those cases you know you talk to
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miss brienne dressen who I testified with in the united states senate you talk to dr joel walscock
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with transfer I know orthopedic surgeon who I work with in the front of mine you talk to hundreds of
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others of my friends that have been vaccine injured okay they're severe vaccine injuries you
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know you talk to cody okay the vaccine injured 18 year old young man these are severe injuries
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and some people have made the case that you know the the severe nursery and the the most blessed
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were the individuals that lost their lives not permanently damaged requiring chronic care for
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the rest of their lives certainly that's a huge huge burden on society so it's it's horrible
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so what is a kill ratio injured to kill ratio of 33.4 well let me just tell you what that is okay
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if you take the two atomic weapons dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki there are about 94 000
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injured and about 105 000 killed it's an injured to kill ratio of 0.9 you know if you go to the
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rest of the wars all those injured to kill ratios were only two three four five you know maybe with
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vietnam we got a little bit better on saving lives on battlefield medicine it went up to a few later
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wars maybe up to one of them I saw up to seven but and you you you look at everybody focuses on
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thalidomide and we're going to talk about that book but you know des diethylstobethyrol was
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far worse everybody remembers thalidomide because of those horrible birth defects and
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horrible they were focal milia beautiful sons and daughters of my most high living god
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born with missing extremities and it wasn't just that it was other major health issues
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probably with with with the lid am i you're looking at an injured injured to kill ratio of
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only 0.25 about 20 000 injured maybe about 80 000 killed right by the way one tablet of thalidomide
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one 150 milligram tablet of thalidomide given at the right time in pregnancy
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50 50 that one tablet but des came on long before the scene of thalidomide came on the scene in 1938
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it was marketed to improve pregnancy outcomes it was bloody catastrophic 10 million people in 10
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million people and not only what did we find out from des we found out that it was not just
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god's the sons and daughters of those exposed in their mother's womb it was the grandsons and
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granddaughters and the great-grandsons and the great-granddaughters innumerable a lot more than
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10 million people were affected from that in multiple generations so that it that's this is
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this is horrible stuff um but when you that's the first piece of evidence that's irrefutable
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is phisers own data you know the next piece of evidence that is irrefutable this is absolutely
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irrefutable and this is a study of phisers phase three phase four clinical study this is their own
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phase two phase three clinical study and they knew they tried to suppress this remember i said i
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needed 70 000 patients to do a randomized double-blind placebo controlled trial well you you don't
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know how many you know how many how many patients they had in this pathetic underpowered study this
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is purposeful yeah they had like 150 in each group 150 in the vaccine group 150 pregnant women
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and this was completed in july of 2022 they sat on it for a year until july of 2023 not even a year
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ago 11 months ago and then they leaked it out on this website it was so different i've spent
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uh dozens of hours teasing this data out this is what they found
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those women who are pregnant who are randomized who are randomized to the vaccine group they had a
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100 increase in newborn depression what that means low apgar scores some of the babies requiring
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cardiac resuscitation a breathing tube down their throats okay a lot of them went to the neonatal
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intensive care unit a substantial increase in meconium aspiration and a very dangerous
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meconium is where the baby poops inside the womb it's a green substance when babies get hypoxic
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which they do with the vaccine and they inhale it that's potentially lethal complication 80
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increase in um in in um jaundice congenital birth defects malformations increased by 70
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a specific heart defect a hole in the heart atrial septal defect increased by 220
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percent growth starved fetuses in the womb because of the placental abnormalities
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substantially increased birth defects of the skin substantially increased um specifically
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a congenital nevus uh is a birthmark and also some more significant hemangiomas and then this is a
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worse eighth a birth defect with a significant developmental delay in six months of life now I
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ask you okay that's this is irrefutable data who's talking about this why is it being suppressed
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why are these 60 000 ob-gyn's I guarantee you I guarantee you that any obstetrician if they
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weren't a pathetic bribed mouthpiece for ssm health and Washington University my former hospital
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and every other institution and they weren't a bloody mouthpiece for the fraudulent corrupt
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killers of ACOG and the American college and the American board of ob-gyn the society
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maternal fetal medicine and they weren't a mouthpiece for the federal government
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and if they said to their obstetric the obstetrician said you know Mrs. Smith you know you can take the
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vaccine but here's what Pfizer found in their randomized double-blinded placebo control trial
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and they listed off those eight items that I just mentioned this is fact this is this is
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I've reviewed this data I'll stake my life on it as sure as you're looking at me nobody's talking
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about this not one of those women would have ever taken that vaccine no pregnant woman ever would
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have taken that vaccine so that's a second data piece of data the third piece of data I said there
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were four irrefutable pieces of data sources the second one the the third one was the governmental
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data yeah there may be some names on that article of people that published it like my friend Albert
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Benavides like my friend Dr. Peter McCullough like like counselor Megan Redshaw an attorney like
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Michael Dukovitch PhD like Claire Rogers my one of my co-authors and colleagues and yes I was lead
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author this was published a year ago over a year ago in the journal of the American Association
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of Physicians and Surgeons by the way the most rigorously extensively peer-reviewed paper
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of all my 250 or so ever of any other journal I've ever submitted to but here's the deal
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this data is completely open sourced anybody in the world can get this data our methodologies
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and has anybody refuted anything in that data not a not one iota it's been published now for
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you know whatever 14 months so in contrast to every other publication that is out there and
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there's a lot of them that say it's safe and effective and necessary in pregnancy
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those those data sources are are complete completely closed completely closed and there's
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so many other there's so many other biases to those publications and then the fourth data the
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fourth piece of evidence is a manuscript that is actually in going to be impressed shortly
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and Albert Benavides is a co-author and and we expanded that to the various database
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now we have a much longer period of time we have we have actually 412 months of vaccine
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come in the control group including 40 months of the covid vaccine and we've extended that
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that analysis from not just 18 adverse events that we published last year but 35 adverse events
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okay and these are all compared by the the same methods we used over a year ago and the results
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are horrifying i mean again um standard statistical methods um much worse than what we saw we not only
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compared it to the influenza the covid 19 vaccine to the influenza vaccine but also the covid
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vaccine to all of the other vaccines for 412 months except covid the results are stunning
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they're catastrophic uh you know we're looking at not only pregnancy complications to miscarriage
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chromosomal abnormalities uh fetal death severe fetal growth restrictions severe placental
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abnormalities uh placental calcifications placental infarcts uh placental blood clots
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severe bleeding not only in the mother and at the time of delivery but in the baby
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and then newborn depression um newborn infections uh malformations um newborn seizures um horrible
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complications so so that's the fourth piece of evidence and that will be published shortly now
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in contrast let's just talk about what what how could how can how can these other publications
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come out and say oh it's safe and effective and necessary well it's really really easy you know
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look at look at the i'm reading this right off the website and i've known about this for a year
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but look at the forbes magazine the top 20 universities that really call the shots and by
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the way this is the exact same thing this is right off the pharmaceutical script that they
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did with the litamide with the es they did with they did with the psychotropic drugs too they get
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mouthpieces people that are in these academic positions and they pervert them and corrupt them
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with money listen i i should i can't this has to be a mistake but i'm reading it right off of forbes
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magazine johns hopkins university once again leads all u.s universities and colleges in a total
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nih funding one year one year 842 not million billion dollars and it goes down the list number
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two university california ucsf over 789 billion university of pennsylvania over 703 billion
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university of michigan where i grew up over 698 billion university of pittsburgh 658 billion
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washington university who fired me with ssm health you know i was the most experienced published
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author in the division of maternal fetal medicine they fired me tried to bribe me with 100 000
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dollars right they took over 633 billion from the nih columbia university 633 billion stanford
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university over 628 billion yale university over 622 billion university of california la over 580
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billion i can't believe this in one year university of north carolina chapel hill over 559 billion
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university of washington seattle over 558 billion mount sinai over 501 billion emory university over
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485 billion university of wisconsin madison over 446 billion new york university over 424 billion
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and northwestern university number 20 over 413 billion listen there's hundreds of more that that
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are lesser in value but when you understand that this federal government had an mo that is very
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very sinister you know very very evil this is a depopulation agenda okay this comes straight from
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the cia and the dod all these other people are just greedy uh uh minions they're they're they're
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basically useful idiots that are trying to make some money and are greedy including
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pfizer and maderna you know everybody else is just in it for the money so what are the other obvious
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biases like take for the new england journal medicine and i'll call eric rubin out he's a
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criminal he needs to be destroyed with civil litigation and with criminal litigation he needs
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to go in neurenberg 2.0 eric rubin editor in chief of the new england journal medicine
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that journal has been corrupt for 50 years making money off their people honoring them and worshiping
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them bowing down to their publications when they're nothing more than a corporate kleptocratic
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uh you know money hungry institution along with their uh society in massachusetts there so you
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know this is what they did was to when they pushed this new england journal medicine lead author
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shimabukuro um this again was a ghost written this was ghost written uh i don't like ghost writers
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okay because most of them work for the the pfizer uh and the pharmaceutical industry what they do is
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have they've been doing this for centuries they're masters at masters of deception
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they they wrote this article and it's very hard to see where they lie and cheat unless you really
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have a trained eye there were 21 co-authors on that manuscript 21 they were all federal employees
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shimabukuro himself shimabukuro himself was ahead of the vaccine safety committee for the hhs cdc and
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fda this he was a lead author what these authors did was of course they manipulated the data um but
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let me tell you what i can prove and by the way did you see clare craig and the other experts now
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that have come out we've been saying this for two or three years vaccination status has been totally
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fraudulent nobody tells what is your definition of vaccine status are you vaccinated or not
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well many of these even the federal government they they now clare rogers says that ons has
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admitted that they were calling some people that died that they were calling them unvaccinated they
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were not unvaccinated they were vaccinated there might have been some qualifier in the in the small
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print such as oh they only had their vaccination for two weeks isn't that convenient or oh they
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only had one vaccination oh isn't that convenient they were vaccinated and and so nobody knows what
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the real vaccination the federal our federal government said oh yeah we for purposes of
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efficacy of the vaccine yeah we use two weeks because it takes that much time so so they've
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there's many officials but this oh but that's just limited to efficacy studies don't buy that if you
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if you buy that i got a i got a bridge here that connects gulf reese to pensacola it's a four mile
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bridge i'll sell it to you and give you a good deal so so and all these authors that that publish
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in these departments can you imagine if i'm the chairman if i were chairman of washington university
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which which i should have been because the chairman of that department it will be june wayne was
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uh you know no credibility but i won't mention her name but if i were that chairman
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and i had i fed her all of my publications never once did she debate me never once did she give
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an opportunity for me to do grand rounds i was suppressed and censored so one step further if
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they took that 307 million actually just the hospital remember i told you before that
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saint that's from the federal government there's so many different funding sources
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but washington university st louis my former institution that's 633 billion dollars in a year
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according to this forbes article that i'm looking at right now okay so there's so many different
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levels of money sources but could you imagine if i were chairman and i had um 10 of my ob gyn
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doctors say you know hey dr thorpe um you know the vaccine is dangerous we want your blessing
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to submit this um for publication i couldn't submit that for publication i was the chairman
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of the department and in my department the protocol says that all pregnant women get
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vaccinated i couldn't allow a publication from my department that were saying that the vaccine
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were safe effective and necessary in pregnancy i would say no you're not publishing it you can't
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publish it from this department of course they're doing that and then there's so many other uh
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biases there i i'm going to say just a few other uh a few other um comments here and i wonder if
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i could share my screen yes you can jim is that okay yeah charles yep
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james it's a brilliant presentation
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stephen maybe not you guys yeah i said that yeah i know but you're a co-host you can you can um
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you can share just no dramas can you hear me charles yes you can share i guess i can't hear you
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yeah i'm talking can you hear me
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jim can you hear me i don't have audio oh oh i know why i don't have audio i know
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can you guys hear me yep yes yeah okay i can hear you now good okay so you can share your
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screen no problems just click on share screen yeah i mean
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all right here we go
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i'm getting there bear with me yep i'm not the most why are you doing that jim i just want to say
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well i'll be quiet when it when you call it up on the screen but for claire just to really drive
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home the point the money that you're speaking of and this is you really have the story you and
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maggie of the money it's it's beyond colossal i need a word beyond colossal right and that
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basically is how they did it like not big money not colossal money but something beyond colossal
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money would you agree absolutely can you guys see my screen yes we can yes we can jim and uh cilia
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the the the word you're looking for is from monty python it's a really really really big number
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yeah thank you jose i i want to credit maggie thorpe who's an attorney also has a divinity
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degree but she's done some incredible work in bad faith insurance industry she's a sleuth she's
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a little bit shyer than i am but she's speaking out aggressively and listen we're a dynamic duo
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that is a pretty formidable team she takes the attorney side i take the md side if you go to the
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america out loud just google four letters four words america out loud news and that'll take you
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to that america out loud banner there red white and blue there go all the way over the right side
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and hit menu and go down to the menu and click on authors and hosts and then scroll down and you'll
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see a my wife maggie thorpe jd and a picture of myself and then click on that and that'll take
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you about 16 or 18 of our publications just in his last you know just in as many months i can tell
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you that i i don't the the publish the publications that we have on that platform every single one of
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them has highlighted the government uh the corruption that's going on in the four years like um like no
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other constellation of articles in fact we're we're publishing this in a book a publisher is asked to
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if they could put this together and publish it but you know it it goes on from and i'll close
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the of those 16 articles you'll see that oh in that picture there the cvs and walgreens those
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are the two largest pharmacy retail pharmacies outlet in united states america
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they took billions of dollars in 2021 with the sole purpose of number one and we prove this look
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at the article it's horrible it's stunning the the way that they did it was they
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they attacked physicians like myself gaslit us um and mocked gaslit and illegally i believe refused
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to fill scripts for the safe and effective drugs like hydroxychloroquine like ivermectin and others
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refused and and reported us to our boards and not only did they do that they pushed the vaccine
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that was their narrative and they pushed the testing which was worthless and they made a bloody
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fortune off that so this went viral the article you know a couple of months ago focused on all the
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faiths for vaccine the faith leaders um all over the country came straight from biden's chief of
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staff jeffrey zianz the then director of the nih francis collins he called himself reverend francis
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collins purported to be a follower of jesus christ let me tell you something that man's a follower of
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satan he's satanic and then vivik murthy all of these gathered the faith leaders not just christians
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but also our islam brothers and sisters muslim our jewish brothers and sisters american native
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indians and they bribed him and lied to them and they told them to push the vaccine to their
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congregations you know there's a scripture a sacred scripture out of deuteronomy and many of you may
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be aware of it they perverted all the scriptures and they used them though this one deuteronomy
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scripture i can cite it um basically off the top of my head not verbatim but you know i led you
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through a narrow place a strong right arm reached out and you rose your arms outward
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do you know how these evil bastards and i i use a biblical term bastards because they are
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spiritual bastards their father is not god or not the earthly father their father is satan
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here's what they told these faith leaders what this represents is the narrow place was a pandemic
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the strong arm was god's hand the strong hand was god's hand holding a syringe and the outstretched
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arm was the people of the world asking god for the miraculous vaccine and to save their life
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that's how they interpreted this and many other new testament scriptures same way so and then
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before that we we published in december on how again all over 420 000 hospital systems in the
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united states of america were bribed now this is different from the nih money this is totally
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separate fund okay this is from the provider relief fund so it's totally different there's so
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many there there may be a hundred or more different funds this is a totally different fund from the
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cbs and the wall green in the pharmacies and and so from the provider relief fund in december
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maggie and i published and we have all the verifiable links 186 billion dollars
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to capture over 420 000 hospital systems including mine that's where ssm health and
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st louis slu st louis university which is the university they're affiliated with that's exactly
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how they receive that 307 million dollars so it's it's an abomination and then of course you know
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a year ago we published in may of 2023 maggie's brilliant targeted foyer request freedom of
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information act request which proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that hhs and cdc gave millions
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to the american college of obstetricians and gynecologists just garnering their capture and
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there was a quid pro quo agreement a if you will a collaborative care agreement in which a cog
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and none of their constituents were allowed to independently think and to deviate from the lethal
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hhs so all 60 000 obgyn doctors became mouthpieces for the federal government
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so that's just four of our articles and every single one is powerful like that and in maggie's
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typical fashion they're heavily cited you you can't really refute them they're so heavily cited
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i i've been blabbing on and on for too much but i really appreciate
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your patience with my verbose and lengthy chit chat here thank you jim jim thank you so much
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thank you cilia so much for sharing brilliantly one question before steven starts
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for the next series of questions is there a chart to take steven's point of evildoers in the book
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sacrifice as as i think there was in bobby kennedy's book um from all of it is not actually
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there's not that's a great idea a chart of evildoers like a great like yeah no there's not
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okay so that could be an addendum that you make available just yeah perhaps on jim's article
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the feed uh anyway i thought steven for your question who are these bastards exactly in the
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biblical sense um not that i'm an expert on the bible but jim last time you spoke to us and i
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think you've spoken to us twice before but the sec i think the second time or the last time anyway
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you spoke to us i was thinking i was really affected as a doctor and as a human being by
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what you said and i thought all jim needs is a storyteller i thought that and i hope i said it
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to cilia or to you or both but i know that we had cilia on last time i think she spoken to us
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twice is that right cilia that's right and i think you've spoken to us maybe three times before is it
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james anyway the the last time around about the time you were both on i was thinking uh i need
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to put james jim's orp in touch with cilia but i don't know whether i did it i hope i did but i
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hope so it would be worth the four years work i've done uh would be worth it just for making
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that connection so i hope it's a it's a partnership made in heaven i think i thank you god bless you i
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think it is i i see my friend uh vera sharaf on here and i had such an honor and privilege of
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meeting her what what a hero she is thank you vera all right yeah so i think i hope that cilia
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has been able to capture the outrage i hear in your voice both as a medical doctor and i'm a
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doctor too um and as a human being and hopefully i am human after this nonsense for this sheer evil
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over the past four years and before obviously but i didn't realize to the extent and i now trust my
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instincts prior to 2020 i i i was thinking certain things but i was hoping that someone would come
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along with a solution or salt get rid of it all you know but but now i realize that we have to
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take responsibility for what's going on and we have to we the people on this call and others like us
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must take responsibility uh for what we see and speak out in the best words we can and words are
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very important i agree with cilia and that's the way that the greek myths have survived all these
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years um all these hundreds of years you know because they are highly relevant to human beings
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and how human beings function and so we had an amazing um presentation um on uh last tuesday
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by a guy who was uh by a wonderful man who was born in the soviet union and um
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he was talking about books and he had realized quite early on because gorky had a conversation
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with lenin gorky is a writer in the soviet union and lenin after the revolution to uh 1917 and um
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he said you need to get the population of our country i.e the soviet union to have access to
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the great classics and the point about the classics is that they are the classics
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because they have something important to say and so people don't need to read all the uh texts
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which are available they just need to read these hundred classics and he maintains a living list
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of the classics the point being that you haven't got time most people haven't got time to read
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um well most people don't read 100 books um but of course uh there are some who
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read many more than 100 um but they waste time with uh texts which are not so um important and
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which are results of the classics and so i think he's right right on there and anyway point is um
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um so i think that uh cilia you have this incredible gift for uh getting to people's
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hearts with your words and and jim the the meat of what he's saying is so important i did think
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that if we can get this out to the public when you're speaking last if we can get this out to
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the public this could be the way this could be the thing that will bring them down attacking babies
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and and uh expectant mothers and could i uh could i jump in sorry i don't want to interrupt you but
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before we go to thank you i'm so resonating with with everything you're saying and the ancient
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greeks their symbol the the quintessential symbol of vulnerability for the ancient greeks was the
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pregnant hair if i remember properly from college the pregnant hair um i wanted to say this when jim
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was speaking it came to me so thank you jim amazing presentation uh when uh um so there's a
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piece that fits with this i bet everybody here is thinking how how how is this possible and i want to
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introduce something that i worked on a lot and and pieced together as i was working on the book and
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that was looking at the the woke the woke piece which is not a small piece it's like a it's like
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a like a continent right that comes in so as i said in bobby kennedy's book everything fauci
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did he did because of woke now i'm not just going to rant about woke we all know about woke
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but here's the critical part that just came to me as i was listening to jim the part of woke
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that has telling us there's no such thing as a woman that's telling us men can get pregnant i
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saw a book today somewhere on the internet a children's book and it says it was it was two men
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one of them with a big belly like a cartoon right and it said i grew in my daddy's belly so i just
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want to say the piece that kind of prepares the ground for this horror is this whole there's no
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such thing as a woman men can have babies and you see to the last we're going to make the list
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steven and charles great idea but what i saw i remember when i called you jim and i said jim
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all these the walenskis and all the evil ones and all of their every utterance and press release
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everything they always use the phrase pregnant people and it freaked me out so bad pregnant
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people outrageous they won't and that's like that's them so cilia they've been to live yeah so what
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you're saying in different words is they deliberately attack universal truths contained in the great
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myths and all the great classics i'm also saying they hate women and they've hated women not just
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women they hate everything absolutely yeah and they want us divided on everything absolutely
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once you take away essential biological womanhood from women and you spread that all over the culture
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i think it actually becomes easier to mothers to this heart somehow still don't even really think
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there's such a thing as a mother or a woman anymore it's been going on of course for
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you know absolutely everything is up and one more thing real quick the graphics oh my god
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jim do you remember how obsessed i was about the creepy graphics who remembers
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covet creepy graphics and the ones that pertained to the propaganda and it's really like this very
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socialist realist stuff the cart not cartoons the well they look like cartoons but the the you know
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the pamphlets the posters it's the the theme and it's so disturbing was that they they have no
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facial features they're often brown or dark brown they have often no hands
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sometimes no feet and you'll see this if you look up covid propaganda posters you see these
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yeah incredibly disturbing themes and and i see you should write about that you should write about
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that because if you wrote about that that would encapsulate the evil and so i think what you're
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saying is that that these are these pictures were well lit if you like well lit but no nuance
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it's very it's sort of ai transhumanist world you know and and you see the doctor with a clipboard
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and usually the doctor is also you know um they they push a lot of sort of um non-white imagery
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to make the person think oh you know this is a person who's not white so it's like a better
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form of human stuff right and the doctor has a clipboard and the mother is standing with like
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no facial features no hands and she's she's not holding her child's hand i mean i could send you
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all these the child is kind of over here but she's got this posture toward the doctor like he's the
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salvation i mean really really if you just look at the propaganda posters it's all there and i've
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always wanted to know they're so consistent who came up with that hideous style i know tessa's
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here she grew up in the soviet union she's probably very familiar with you know what they
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do with posters and graphics is under appreciated part of all of this if i may sorry one of our
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presenters cilia and everybody told us that the bbc stopped using colors as they had prior to 2000
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they stopped using them in 2000 i think 2000 somewhere around there and you get these
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detective especially the swedish and danish detective stories uh that and they're all in
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blue and gray and color has gone and apparently it it dumbs people down and so it was i think
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it could have been martinez the um the mk ultra guy um or it could have been jason christoph i
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can't quite remember so um but either of those could have said it but anyway that's evil as well
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um i just so you two together are a force of nature in my opinion i hope i put you together
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but anyway it doesn't matter if i didn't um because so i wanted to jim i just wonder so
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you mentioned that you know the five trillion uh dollars has been spent on on um on this
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covid nonsense in the united states of america i think you meant but i was a bit surprised with
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these figures for for for johns hopkins 842 billion uh use university college ross angeles
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i think it was 709 billion something 703 billion didn't couldn't write quick enough 658 billion
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633 billion you're careful to say billion rather than million and i just wonder you know if so
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call it 500 billion average for the top 20 because i think that and it's more than that but call it
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for the sake of that's 10 trillion dollars i don't does that is it possible that there's been a
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mistake in the i know you read it from some leaflet or whatever it was those figures 842 billion that's
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nearly a trillion has gone to one university johns hopkins in a year is that possible
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uh it it doesn't seem uh i'm putting the link in the description but remember uh it seems
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impossible to me but this is what i'm reading sure right i have this website i just put the link in
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there it says it says the title of the article is top 20 universities for nih funding johns
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hopkins ranks first again johns hopkins university once again leads all u.s universities and colleges
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and total nih funding in federal fiscal year 2023 the most recent year for which relatively
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complete data are available hopkins investigator received 842 billion 956 million 584 dollars in
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awards so jim i'm pretty good with figures and i understanding that seems a remarkably high figure
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for one university for one year it's yeah i mean maybe you know forbes i agree with you but this is
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what forbes says look it up now here's what i'll say is well you know the 5.3 trillion dollars
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you know this was documented by multiple media outlets including the washington post and the new
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york times last year and what they said was that five trillion plus dollars was spent over the
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pandemic and there's no accountability we have no idea where it went so it's it's very likely that
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the money that that the forbes magazine is talking about is totally separate from that five trillion
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dollar path so who knows but if it's true those figures then call it half a trillion each of them
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but it'd be more than that 20 times half a trillion is 10 trillion to the top 20 universities in
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america from the nih so how could the nih have that amount of money well well well here's where
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or are they trying to big up are they trying to big up the nih and say how powerful the nih is
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don't mess with the nih all you scientists because you won't get a grant and look how much we give
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out so is it true why would forbes get it wrong and why would they if they didn't get it wrong
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why would they lie yeah i mean we flag it we try to get the original jim right we need to we need
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to nail that figure those figures can't be right jim i'm not i'm not the link credibility i'm just
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saying the forbes have either lied or they've got it wrong well i i think that it's a i i had the
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exact same um the exact same i i couldn't believe my eyes that's why i pulled the article up did you
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guys get the link oh you put it in the chat let's see yeah i put it oh wait wait i sent it to the
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wrong send the chat to everybody in the meeting i sent it to just one person sorry everyone well
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one last thing cilia and again i'd just like to say that this is so important this presentation
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that you two have just done now and you know as far as does anyone reliable have that you don't
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have to be uh worrying about whether you're reliable does anyone have the time to make a
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transcript of these present of these two presentations uh i think it's really important
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to get a transcript of what you said today
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yeah so that's addressed to people on the call but uh i'm sure someone will take it up please
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contact me if you want to take on that responsibility so there are people on the call i know a very
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reliable uh uh loschow hansen in sweden uh hans benjamin braun in in switzerland uh jeroen caucy
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in the united states these are all friends of mine so jerry is saying it is hundreds of bill
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of millions not billions a billion is one it's a thousand million million is a thousand million
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this i read to you this is steve i've just got the john hopkins uh 2023 financials up
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uh at the moment um total income is 4.4 billion uh sorry oh good lord there's too many notes
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4 000 million let me just i'll put it up a minute that's that's four billion then how many notes are
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there if there are nine hold on a minute uh let me just get that up um i've got four five this
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is 2023 sponsor sponsored research revenues four five five six five five two four thousand
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so how many digits are there before the thousand
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so be or after the thousand there's a thousand and there's one two three four five six seven
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seven thousand that looks like 4.5 billion to me
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sorry let's nail this down so are you saying there are there are seven figures before the
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the three notes at the end the thousand yes yeah put the link put the link in the chat let me look
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at it so then you're talking about a single figure billion until i think i'm looking at 4.5 billion
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that's what i'm looking 4500 million yeah with would that be nine notes or roughly nine notes
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yeah yeah yeah 10 to the ninth is a billion so forbes i've made a mistake which is unthinkable
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on something so important or they've done it deliberately and the question is why i think
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it's the latter i've just put the link in now uh james thank you so someone needs to look into
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that that's very important to nail that down and so um anyway to get back to the transcript
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so anybody on this call or indeed watching the video if they can email me uh if they want to do
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this transcript transcript of this these presentations that we've heard tonight very
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important hey steven i see a lot of people with their hands up i think yeah yeah yeah i'm just
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volunteering to do it yes so jim i was just about to say over to the people who want to speak now
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so charles if you're around charles is very early for charles in australia he's beginning to flag on
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his fourth year uh jim doing this and he's sleeping now by the look of it so hans benjamin
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brawn who is the professor of theoretical physics in switzerland even jerry brady here you've got
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the numbers wrong a thousand million is a billion yeah these are hundreds these are hundreds of
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millions right well they're good on money i think so too but forbes have got it wrong jerry it doesn't
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it's not jim who's no no they've listed the more i can see i haven't had a good look they've listed
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the numbers quite clearly in hundreds of millions who foebs up they've got university of california
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789 million university of pennsylvania 703 million duke university 701 um a million these are millions
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okay well yes that's what i was suspecting million is a thousand million my my mistake
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my my error my error i'm wrong this is important jim it's important to get it right jim for your
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book i maya copa maya copa maya maxima copa i just pulled this back up those are those are all
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million uh those are all uh they're hundreds of millions millions yeah so it's very important
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so it's very important that we nailed that down so i just sent by very important
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so it's out by a thousand fold but the thing is it's still a lot of money and it's a it's a lot of
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money it's not millions it's hundreds it's hundreds of millions sorry for the top 20
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universities in america we're talking about uh in excess of 10 billion from the nih alone
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and that's only the top 20 yeah that's right my error maya copa maya copa maya maxima copa
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it's okay but jim do you remember when we were doing the numbers early on the number what's that
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creepy website that sounds like ccp but it isn't it's like cc seppi ccc or something a us oh oh
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cc that's a yeah the covet 19 community core yeah anyone can covet community core corps
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anyone can go there and they actually for some reason flout their uh their bribes there and the
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total number that they cited there for and they show you like you can see for example you just
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scroll down 800 black radio stations received this many millions and the total number there for all
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covet u.s government i don't know what the word is expenditure is in the trillions remember that
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number jim that was a trillion that they it was over a trillion so so we are into the the trillions
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with everything not these universities but sure it's i'll put the link for the covet 19
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was put together yeah um so hans benjamin brawn i was just saying uh go ahead hans benjamin
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all right we've got ready for other questions now okay yeah go ahead charles yeah okay benjamin
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yes we can hear you go for it okay can you hear me yep yes okay okay very good yeah just as a as a
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so jerry is absolutely right it's the order of magnitude by the way eth surek has an annual
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budget of 1.8 billion so uh this grant money is approximately half of the total budget of eth
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surek which is among the top 10 universities so uh to link it so it's by no means a small amount
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of money which came in there so uh but now back to the to the i mean was a brilliant brinyard
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exposition and um actually it did ring a lot of bells uh even though you're in a different
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discipline uh medicine but i uh made many experiences in in in physics you know research
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i was reviewing grants and so forth and just before i ultimately ask you a question i wanted to
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tell you i mean one aspect is that it seems that in many disciplines there is you know we live in
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the age of data so there are data and overwhelming amount of data and actually nobody is actually
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able to really mine them and question them so those guys who have the data they interpret them
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and because they have the time at the resources they say something and nobody is actually able
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to catch up with that because it's simply too voluminous so i think that's a really important
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point which somehow you know as a outsider community you know in critical community you
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simply cannot check that in particular then the supervisory agencies are actually on the one
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cover with the with the pharmaceutical industry in your case so i have now um the other aspect
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which is related to what what stephen knows and some of you know uh in connection with north stream
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actually that's the sort of the the cozy cohabitation of research which is in this
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case not medicine but actually nuclear nuclear and weapon industry which is a similar cozy
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relationship maybe even and you know a more concealed one and this is now a personal anecdote
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that uh because as you know many of you know that i analyzed what happens with in the north stream
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incident and there is complete utter silence from the academic side and i almost wondered why and
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actually to the extent that they fight against me they come up with ridiculous arguments and then i
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have to in a one-man show i have to refute them which i always did one by one incidentally a note
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to to stephen frost in in bornholm the island the danish island the fishery congregation just
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dissolved this spring because they do not fish anymore there are no fish left period in that area
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but now back to that to this cozy cohabitation i know of a guy he is about one of the few authors
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who actually published some was able to publish something on the north stream incident in a seismic
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journal and it wasn't revolutionary he just essentially confirmed numbers which were floating
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around partially in some databases but it was significant enough that he did not actually agree
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with what northa said which is the norwegian seismic agency which is a joint venture with
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the most national lab which you may be familiar with you know the weapons nuclear weapons lab
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and it was founded in 1968 so anyway that agency was the first one who came out with a rough
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estimate on what kind of explosive was used in the north stream incident within 24 hours and now
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now the director of that institute northa approached that person who is a young academic
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at the beginning of his career i don't know whether he's in a tenure track but you know has
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a temporary position not a permanent position and she told him you are not going to continue to work
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on this subject and you and i know what that means to a young researcher right if he is going
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to continue his career will be over and that demonstrates effectiveness with which research
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is actually suppressed in the universities and it's simple so every single individual is actually
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confronted with the choice you continue to be critical and then your choice you know you're
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axed your position may be axed or you know or you just leave and um and now question question
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come on yeah now comes the question now comes the question i mean now i seriously view all the
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experience which i had as a grant reviewer for multi-million you know volume grants and i know
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how the publication system works i know how people site work and you know how it works and this is now
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i mean it's nearly a rhetorical question can this academic system of grants publications
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actually be saved and what i mean by saved can it be saved in the direction that it actually
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is able to produce something which is of benefit to society rather than the reverse
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okay so jim quick answer because there are 10 hands up and we've got half an hour to go
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up and we've got half an hour to go
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it is a is a brilliant complex question i i don't know that this system can be salvaged
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i don't because this has been going on since the 1970s with the new york journal of medicine i mean
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we had a lead editor you know remember dr marcia angle at the turn of the century resigned and said
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it was terminally corporately entangled and corrupt plopped erratically so i don't i don't
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know that can be saved any more than our country can be saved at this point in time but there's some
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patient people that have had their hands up
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okay thank you thank you thank you benjamin now before we get to you glenn uh peter underwood you
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had your hand up you made a comment what zoom does if you make a comment it puts you to the back of
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the line you're at the front of the line so peter your question to jim and cilia please and then we
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go to glenn okay thank you i'll be as quick as possible thank you very much cedar and james
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absolutely stunning presentation i just wanted to ask you whether you'd come across something that
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i was involved in in february 2021 i was working as a counselor with the citizens of vice bureau at
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the time and i was asked if i would like to join this government funded group called vaccine
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buddies um well i knew it was the opposition but i thought i'd become a mole anyway and i joined them
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and the whole idea was that the government had got was to deal with people who were
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vaccine hesitant and our training involved a lot of angles towards pregnant women i wasn't very
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happy about that and i worked uh for about 18 months with them trying to save some of the
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patients that uh came to us the idea was that the vaccine buddy would encourage and work with
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the vaccine hesitant in order to get vaccines i just wanted to ask you whether you'd come
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across anything like this in america or anywhere else perhaps
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cilia you're muted there are entire there's a whole new ecosystem post covid of i don't know
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exactly of that intimate as what you're talking about but you can there are all these um
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organizations and they have videos they're very open about it about how to how to psychologically
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move a woman from being vaccine hesitant to being vaccine enthusiastic so i yeah there
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there's not as much of that sociological stuff and one could write a whole book just about that
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but i definitely came across it it's very well funded it's it's spectacularly creepy and dark
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and they and i noticed a lot of things that they did again like watch you know the colors and the
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there's a tone that they use when they speak that is like uh i mean it's like you're in the middle
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of an mk ultra chamber you know it's it's horrific and this is the next big threat and i want
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everybody to train like you can hear when somebody's doing that then it's the whole culture is flooded
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with it it's amazing to me that it works because women are known for having instincts
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all right thank you very important vaccine buddy i didn't realize that what an outrageous uh term
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and yeah i've got steven i've got all the uh data the training programs the um the uh powerpoint
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the whole i kept the whole thing because i was horrified i've actually got the hm government
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official document uh which lays the whole program out i was horrified when i saw it
967
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you know the the united states government the united states government had many many such programs
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they partnered with through this coveted 19 community core and through harvard university
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they they uh they funded private groups that that just from every level of our society from
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grassroots uh city regional state and national groups promoting this um so it it was again five
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plus trillion dollars is a lot of money you stack uh five trillion dollars on back to back and you
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know you can go all the way to the moon and back and then all the way back to the moon again
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almost 750 um well let me get my numbers right yeah uh 200 almost 750 000 miles of stacked
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dollar bills so here's the other issue here that is i think really pertinent how can people that
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seemingly are intellectually intact you know continue to not be able to connect the dots
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and i think part of that is multifactorial but here's a slant that i think is very important
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for everyone when i look at our governmental database there's database and you and i look
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at three specific diagnoses of groups of diagnosis intellectual problems not being able to connect the
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dots dementia um dementias um they when you compare the dementias and the intellectual issues
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with a covet 19 vaccine with that of influenza vaccine or all other vaccines there's a huge
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breach of the safety signal and by the way it's the same for psychiatric diagnoses there's there's
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about five or six psychiatric diagnoses on that various database at the lowest level and when i
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compare in a time series that associated with the covet 19 vaccine compared with the influenza
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vaccine or all the other vaccines put together there's a huge breach of safety signal and then
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one third component is suicidal ideation and suicide itself huge uh increased risk uh breach
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safety signal with covet 19 compared with the other vaccines all right let's get moving we're
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going to run out of time blaine hi i'd like to address my question to dr jim thorpe you dr
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thorpe are a friend of mine uh you dr thorpe are a great spiritual warrior um and there's many other
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spiritual warriors here with us today i have a concern though if if we're to have any luck
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in this particular war and to save our nation we have to join together in a much more coordinated
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way and i suspect uh you may be set up as a uh in part to to buy a variety of people to trick
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the public into focusing on this particular question that you're dealing with which i don't
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think can actually help us this year let me explain why that what everything you've said is absolutely
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true and all those people are being attacked and they deserve justice there's just no way that
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justice can happen in this calendar year uh while we have we have the joe biden administration and
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in our current justice department uh so anything they can do to distract the rest of us spiritual
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warriors uh will dissipate will confuse divide and conquer all of us uh i believe that the
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rockefeller brothers and the rest of their evil elite subordinates are happy to see you
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uh taking those efforts and they want to defer away from the big issue around uh they want to
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cancel the election they cannot afford to allow a righteous president like uh president uh trump to
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come back to power because he knows where they are and what they've done and all the evil things that
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and he's prepared this time much more than he was eight years ago uh so if if you could sort of delay
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your focus on this and in fact in fact every every part of the people that support you from
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a spiritual way that you could join in in in the avenue of protecting against martial law and
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against canceled elections that's what's going to happen this year this is the turning point this
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you know i don't believe we have seven three more years like charles described i believe this is it
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if we don't win this year we're done as a country that we are in permanent slave
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slavery and perhaps uh even extinction of the of the human species so uh that would be my quest
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to you is how would you feel about joining with others to focus just on making sure that we have
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elections this year are getting people to work locally together with their local law enforcement
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to to survive any kind of gang attacks that are likely to happen with over 100,000 cells that
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have been distributed across the country amen very good points okay very good points well jim
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jim will think about that surely you will think about that well put glenn elbert
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yeah uh hi jim hi miss selya it's good to good to see you guys um uh jim my question is um kind
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of a spiritual type question i'm just i uh i wonder what you do on a daily basis to to
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stay grounded because i know that you know all of us um it's almost like a spiritual battle it's
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like you know we can't have like three friends that all agree on everything you know it's like
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you all have disagreements about one thing or another and um so you know with that i know that
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there's a lot of shade thrown your way um on various uh topics or issues but um you know
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because i know that you're very well versed in the bible i know you're a good christian
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you're a righteous man and um what do you do on a on a daily basis to to stay grounded like that
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because uh i'd like to do the same i i stay in the word every day i have a personal relationship
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with my lord and savior jesus christ um and maggie and i are on the same page and uh you know it's
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funny you bring that up because i i deeply miss you know i'm working some 18 hours a day on some
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days um and i deeply miss um my men's uh fellowship and and i started going um again um to get out
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not just with maggie to get out with like-minded friends like yourself albert physically where you
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know we met for three hours friday morning and i i need that because i can't even you you have no
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idea how maggie and i are being attacked with not only death threats but with litigation and with
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attacks from every level that you could imagine yeah no i i know i know um and with that jim i'll
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just leave you with i i just in the audience i posted something in the chat there was a link that
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um you know i caught a pedro pedro moro of the cdc which is uh like shimabukuro's uh protege
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and i and i think that shimabukuro doesn't have like the same title like he left or retired or
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he moved positions um that you know that he had initially um and pedro moro his protege took some
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kind of leap leap up up the ladder a little bit but anyways with that i got him dead to rights on
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the um on the dead uh alaskan baby whose report was only visible in the downloadable
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verus files for a few minutes and then never officially published um so anything and then
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and then he comes out as a um uh in this pediatrics paper about the rsv jabs and um saying that
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there's no conflict of interest and i'm saying gee that this guy this guy is a part of the
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bears adjudication system he's a part he's one of the guys that are disappearing these reports
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before they ever get published so anyways that's what my little substack uh article was about and
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um man and miss cellia oh you're so you're so you're you're such a beautiful spirit a beautiful
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person a beautiful woman um i check in i check in with your with your zooms and listen to you
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every now and then and um i i'm probably um going to be a lot like you in the sense that
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you've been you've been beaten down for years because you've just spoken truth to power and
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uh i kind of uh feel feel like that too like oh my god this is uh i better i better uh take notes
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on how how cellia does it because i have a feeling this dog fight's gonna last for many years and i
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gotta learn how to you know keep fighting even though i'm getting beat up constantly so thank
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you god bless you albert god bless you too my the word that came into my mind was badly you said how
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there's there's no good way to do it you just but it's i've said before in this group i'll be very
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brief but this is an under under appreciated part of the fight is how to keep how to stay what we
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call strong right because most people just want to fight fight fight and that you know it's not
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2:09:08
really discussed it's very important okay so thank you albert and you said you're gonna be like
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2:09:13
celia so i was wondering which cosmetic surgeon you're gonna go to albert uh calabine i'm gonna
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have to go to a lot of them thank you you're muted caledine oh i know i'm good i'm getting
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2:09:29
it charles thank you so much for reminding me um thank you um jim i this is more of a medical
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question and you know i have reached out to you and we've talked about this on and off but mostly
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as a clinical physician i get these questions from women who have had the covet injection
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2:09:53
and now they have no idea what to do and this is more of a medical question and so they are
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2:10:00
they're frightened maybe they've had at least one or two miscarriages i know that next door neighbor
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um has had seven miscarriages and um so i just wanted to know what are you telling these women
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2:10:17
to give them hope because we as physicians that's one of our biggest roles is to give
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2:10:25
those who are hurting hope and i wanted to say one more thing and that is what does it profit a man
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2:10:33
should he gain the whole world and lose his soul and that's exactly exactly what these people have
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2:10:41
done they have lost their soul thank you amen what i'm doing is aggressive efforts first of all
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2:10:47
take no vaccines i wouldn't trust any of the vaccines right now after what our hospitals
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2:10:54
and government have done to us number one number two uh restore all the immune system as best as
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2:11:00
possible with uh immune supplements and there's a variety of them i i won't go into them i think
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2:11:08
you know them as well as i do number three i would strongly recommend um you know the evidentiary
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2:11:15
there's no claims for therapeutic efficacy but you know when you look at the spike supplement
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2:11:21
that uh the wellness company is marketing there's some really strong science behind that
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2:11:29
and it's been shown to have just the natal kinase component as a lot of science i've worked with the
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2:11:35
lead author of the largest study in the world chen and colleagues and over a thousand patients
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2:11:42
with that now you can't use it in pregnancy but if you use that spike supplement now the mrna vaccine
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2:11:49
now has been shown to continue to produce spike protein throughout the body for three years now
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2:11:56
dr peter mccullough saying and so um his extended spike supplement which is is basically number one
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spike supplement uh from the wellness company number two curcumin supplement and number three
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2:12:10
bromelain uh and those are high quality and um the the best science that i see
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2:12:12
2:12:17
again no therapeutic claims no randomized double-blinded placebo control studies but
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2:12:23
dr mccullough is stating that it definitely increases the clearance of the spike protein
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2:12:29
and there's numerous other uh benefits as well what about the what about the bromelain in pregnancy
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2:12:37
though no i i'm uh and we've talked about this extensively i am not comfortable i'm comfortable
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with everybody using trying to get pregnant but you know when you find out you're pregnant you
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know in the first trimester i i'm really uncomfortable with nato kinase i've i've
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communicated with dr chen uh you know there's not enough safety data in pregnancy i'm not
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2:13:00
just because it's a natural substance doesn't mean it's safe in pregnancy and i can cite a lot of
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2:13:08
examples like that in the last 45 years so not enough pregnancy data yet for bromelain or for
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lumbo lumbo kinase or for nato kinase you know you know the the i it's just a potential danger
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especially with baby bleeding especially with going through the birth canal thank you okay
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2:13:32
very good thank you carlin before we get to tessa i want to share something jim and cilia just an
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episode to what we're talking about from anna mahalcha who has spoken to us
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so this is this morning came in about an hour ago and it's a cia agent we designed mrna to kill
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2:13:53
there's a transcript cia invented mrna tech in the conjunction with bill and linda gates
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2:13:57
foundation world economic forum and the rockefeller foundation according to bombshell testimony
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2:14:03
of a cia agent who admits that covid vaccines were developed as a bioweapon to control humanity
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2:14:08
so just in terms of the conversation we're having i thought you'd be interested to know that many
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of you are subscribers to anna but she has just released that this morning you should know that
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the cia whistleblower uh stated uh number one that um operation warp speed was a complete sham
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2:14:29
it was a front that the cia developed the mrna vaccine and then we see attorney tom renz
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and by the way that it was developed over 10 years ago and by the way tom renz the attorney
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from ohio that's testified all over the world has a military army soldier from fort riley kansas with
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documented medical records from that military base showing that he had the covid 19 vaccine in
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2:15:05
2014 thank you chesa uh hi silly and james a wonderful presentation no surprise and silly
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i meant to call you so i'll call you soon i'll call you too so question is uh more for silly
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but really for anyone who who wants to answer so in uh my learned term deliberation about this
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it seems like the main target of the depopulation is actually not europeans and not americans and
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not people in developed countries because in the developed countries people are already pretty
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damn sick and as far as fertility rates so it's barely a reproduction level so the main target is
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africa and people who are still healthy in the developing world bad terms but you all know what
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i mean so and because the westerners are put into great distress that is unusual for say the past
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few decades and people are not used to that and people get selfish and really focused on themselves
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which is human nature then nobody is paying attention to what's happening to you know people
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who don't look like us and at the end of the day everybody gets thrown under the bus just under
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different buses so as far as numbers and silly i know that we've talked about the whole african
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effort before so what do you think about this theory that really the after africans i mean
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because those are the people who are multiplying like rabbits they're still healthy they're still
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the nature is more or less intact and they're really off to them and their richness and their
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culture and all that i absolutely agree uh crossed africa in the early 90s and the aids coverage
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did not the op the aid the the aids in africa op was a huge operation put in place
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2:16:56
to tell african people that they were dying from having sex and they then the the where i lost my
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2:17:05
ability to keep continue in my career at all was an article in harpers in 2006 that exposed how the
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george the bush administration second bush administration with a huge i don't know how
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many hundreds of billions in a a trans international plot that bought out all the african governments
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and got them all testing for hiv and putting the pregnant women on a bunch of terrible drugs
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primarily one called nevirapine which was so toxic it was rejected by every single safety agency in
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2:17:46
the entire west so what did they do sent it to the developing world so i i i'm i spent decades up to
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here with this and and it was like you just couldn't get the story across because people
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had the spell oh africa aids is really bad and we're saving them we're saving them we're saving
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drugs are so people have this op in their heads right if they if we give them drugs we're doing
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a good thing that and now i don't hear much about it i don't know it's as you say i don't know what's
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going on now but i absolutely agree with you that was their target there and their big obsession
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and then when last i checked when i was in the aids data for all those decades the population
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of the continent of africa had grown by the size of the united states between
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the early 80s and when they said do you remember the cover stories that said
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africa was going to be wiped off the map wiped off the map wiped so they project this weird
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you know wishful thinking scenario they introduce the fake illness and then they have like just a
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2:18:49
phalanx around the world of these professionals and these are like pharmaceutical funded gay men
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2:18:55
in cities like new york and los angeles flying around the world dictating with african governments
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what kind of chemicals african women should put on their genitals and what kind of birth
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i mean it's it's it's so sick i was i was devastated for so long but i could never get anyone
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2:19:16
to see the the racism and the horror of it it just sort of didn't resonate because they were so
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2:19:21
successful with the africans are dying of aids i don't know if that answers your question but
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oh it does thank you it's very interesting because even in the amendment in the who the
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2:19:34
current situations there's allegedly uh the one of the uh statements is that well it's worded in
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a way that is allegedly supporting indigenous rights even though it's the opposite of that so
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that uh the the indigenous should be consulted whenever there's an invention but what it really
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2:19:50
is is that they want the indigenous knowledge they want all the all the all the secrets they want
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tell you something tessa you're right right on over the target because when the whole harper's
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2:20:01
storm was over and i was attacked and cast up i said to jonathan fishbine the central whistleblower
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2:20:09
of that piece i said jonathan what is this really about and he said it's about resources in africa
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2:20:18
yep let's move on good point tessa we're tight for time jc we've been talking about christ
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jim now we've got jc himself well thank you uh i want to ask dr thorpe um in terms of the women
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2:20:34
who have been affected by the vaccination and have had difficulties with pregnancy will this
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continue can they get how about subsequent pregnancies are they going to be affected as
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well and secondly what happens to the babies that are born what's their ability to reproduce
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these are really really important questions uh jerome and thanks for joining us great to see you
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and um so uh the short answer is uh nobody knows but we are now having more and more evidence that
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our worst nightmares are being um brought forth in front of us right now as we speak
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um we we now have the the major journal article from lynn and colleagues in the american journal
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2:21:22
of obstetrics and gynecology that's our main journal that showed that the vaccine mrna is indeed
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2:21:28
across this right through the placenta which i've been saying for you know four years would uh not
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2:21:34
only it sets up shop in the fetal blood sets up shop in the placenta like i've been seeing with
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all these horrible pictures and more importantly it sets up shop in the chorion which i'm sorry
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2:21:47
with the decidua which is the lining outside lining of the uterus why is that crucial because
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that that the authors themselves said it is highly bioactive and they use a high signal for producing
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2:22:01
spike protein well that's exactly where you would put the bio weapon if you wanted to destroy the
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2:22:10
future of humanities and if this is integrated into the host dna like alden and colleagues showed
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that it was two years ago then there could be potentially some devastating consequences now
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2:22:26
alden's study was in the lab but it was human cells alden and colleagues in sveden two years ago
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2:22:34
showed that the vaccine mrni is reverse transcribed and integrated into the dna of the human cell
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2:22:45
now dr michael rezek has earlier this year published not a smoking gun but preliminary data
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2:22:51
suggesting that indeed the same thing is happening in humans and by god if it's happening in the human
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2:23:00
cells in the regular shell line so help us god if if it also is reverse transcribed into the human
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2:23:07
gametes the ova and the sperm then humanity could be in grave trouble and by the way
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2:23:16
my my friends that i work with who are expert in that areas are suggesting that that is happening
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2:23:27
in the human body remember the movie you remember the movie utopia yeah yeah it's a very frightening
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2:23:35
scenario but this if the spike protein continues to be produced by the body the mrna continues
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2:23:40
to manufacture it one pregnancy difficulty is not going to be the end of the story
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2:23:50
that's right um you know cilia and i um you know we are well known to a woman who has had
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2:24:00
eight losses eight losses since she got the vaccine eight you know those were twins um and before
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2:24:06
that she had a relatively normal pregnancy so there it doesn't seem to affect everybody drone
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2:24:12
and i do want to bring that light of hope you know there's a lot of pregnant women that
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and and apparently they're newborns that as best we can tell have tolerated the vaccine well and
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2:24:28
the babies come out and allegedly at least so far appear to be normal um so i do want to encourage
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2:24:34
people with that well i'm not sure all the doses the vaccine that were released were equally lethal
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2:24:40
on intentionally in order to produce this kind of result but i think the ones that were released
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2:24:45
that were designed to be intentional will produce a permanent result and i think ultimately i don't
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2:24:52
want what's your opinion i think it'll ultimately affect the dna and therefore become a replicated
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2:25:00
part of the human system i hope to god not but i'm afraid you you could be right i'm afraid i could
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2:25:06
be right too thank you thank you thank you cilia you're one of the presenters you don't have to
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2:25:12
put your hand up and you got your hand up so you're next oh i can it was before i wanted to say about
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2:25:17
the hatred of women and the men are women that so that's when i put my hand up so
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2:25:23
you can move on i have to tell you i'm constantly breaching i'm constantly breaching cilia the
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2:25:30
australian anti-discrimination laws because i i i refuse to have sex with a man i discriminate
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2:25:40
against men vera good for you i want to disagree a little bit i think that the third world and
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2:25:49
africa in particular have been all along the laboratory but now they brought it here now they
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2:25:55
brought it to the west and i think part of it has to do with since you talked about money yeah
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2:26:02
where's the money where the money america in europe is where you can get the highest
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2:26:11
amount for whatever medical countermeasure you launch so of course they're going to go
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2:26:20
here now they will it's not as though they no longer care about reducing the population in
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2:26:27
africa of course they do but they have time they want to cash in first they can't cash in there
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2:26:35
so i think really we are now in the crosshairs and also politically just think about it they want to
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2:26:42
take us down because we you know uh still hold some power
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2:26:45
2:26:51
actually agree i agree vera yeah i agree i mean i sort of you know i think both now i want to
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2:26:52
2:27:00
as far as you know the the uh moral and spiritual take down you know i mean really the worst is what
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2:27:00
2:27:06
you're dealing with you know in my book i'm dealing with the whole scope from the holocaust on
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2:27:15
but you know they have gone so far as in canada for example assisted suicide is another way they're
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2:27:25
getting rid of people very encouraging in fact they're encouraging children to to say i want to
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2:27:31
die to honor that with or without parental consent now where are we going
1209
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2:27:39
where are we where are we we're really smacked in the what should i say the um
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2:27:46
what the nazis started this is now full bloom it's far beyond
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2:27:54
and as far as the medical profession which you know i've talked about right from the get-go
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2:28:02
comparing the two because they really are so similar in without the doctors this couldn't be
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2:28:12
done people mother doctors well without the it wouldn't be done now um
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2:28:22
you know i mean this is really what's interesting i don't know if any of you have noticed but i found
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2:28:37
that the lancet november 2023 published 829 articles about medicine and the holocaust
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2:28:38
2:28:49
nazi medicine me i wonder why why in 2023 all of a sudden some of these articles have been published
1217
2:28:49
2:28:59
long ago they're repubs that's that's okay but 829 november 2023 and guess what in march 2024
1218
2:28:59
2:29:10
the new england journal of medicine devoted an issue to nazi medicine why now why a lead article
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2:29:10
2:29:14
in the new england by somebody lombardo
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2:29:23
admits that the new england throughout its entire history and i've gone through this for the book so
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2:29:23
2:29:32
i'm he's quite right throughout its entire history has never touched it and has promoted eugenics
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2:29:42
that's the that's the common thread this is a continuum just grown you know with the technology
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2:29:52
so much bigger and a lot of it is invisible we're being attacked multi attacks it isn't only the
1224
2:29:52
2:30:00
it isn't only the wounds it's also out there the electronic all this stuff this has been
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2:30:00
2:30:07
in the planning even since before the nazis because they tinkered with a lot of this research
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2:30:09
2:30:15
but now it's full blown and we're you know caught off guard but i would still
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2:30:23
like to emphasize what does it mean when the top journals in the medical field are suddenly
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2:30:23
2:30:30
a slew of articles why are they nervous so vera why do you think they've done that
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2:30:32
2:30:37
you know when i first started to say i see parallels and that was really in 2020
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2:30:38
2:30:45
oh people don't say that oh that no no no no and no you can't say that the hospital's
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2:30:52
meant to kill the elderly and i said oh yes they did yes they did yeah protocols and they're still
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2:30:52
2:31:01
doing it you know elderly and disabled those were the populations that the nazis also regard as
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2:31:06
worthless eaters you know what now they're called worthless people
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2:31:14
worthless people now you know it doesn't get much more direct
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2:31:23
so i hope when we get a little bit further in our book which it's almost almost time to give it to
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2:31:23
2:31:33
the publisher i'd like to let you know about it why do you think that the lancets and the nejm
1237
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2:31:39
have raised something which could possibly be to the detriment of them
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2:31:43
2:31:51
well maybe more and more people have been either whispering about it or you know there
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2:31:51
2:31:58
as we see in the science which it's laid out i mean they really don't have a leg to stand on
1240
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2:32:03
but they've got the power they're holding on to the power they're holding on to the money
1241
2:32:03
2:32:10
and they control with the money they control all the uh the journals the universities listen
1242
2:32:10
2:32:17
whether it's billions or trillions you know it's a lot of money and when did universities ever get
1243
2:32:18
2:32:26
that kind of money but i guess they're doing their job they're fulfilling their job they had a job
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2:32:33
to do and they've been very aggressive at it and all united all in lockstep absolutely you
1245
2:32:33
2:32:39
all right that's a big vera vera that's a big question we've got three hands up to steven has
1246
2:32:39
2:32:44
to finish we're over time but we will get through these three questions quickly then steven final
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2:32:44
2:32:50
question celia and jim are you okay for another 15 minutes absolutely okay great all right
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2:32:53
vera great food for thought anders
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2:32:56
2:33:07
yes hello so um i picked up something about this matter of that some women do not have this problem
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2:33:16
with the pregnancy and in my studies i found that it might be that there is a correlation to that
1251
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2:33:29
because the jabs they are electromagnetic with positively charged lnp hydrogel and magnetic
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2:33:38
graphene titanium iron etc so so i don't want to go into the discussion with spike protein but let's
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2:33:47
say in my theory then my narrative it might be that people who live rural who do not have enough
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or too much exposure to these electromagnetic radiations they might not be as much exposed to
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the harm in the in the pregnancy and this is a theory which could be confirmed and checked if
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you check where these people who have not been affected where do they live so i that's a challenge
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to you if you can look into what is the anomaly with those who have not have that negative effect
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that's a question if you have checked on it or if you might look into it we have not checked on it i
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think that's fascinating i'll email you on this and we'll see if we can work it in what do you think
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jim sure um the publisher's uh ready to go yeah i know we have we just have a matter of days but uh
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i think what what's missing and what we all really want to know is is there anything that can be said
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about who might be spared so i'm very interested in that we may not have time but
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i salute you for trying to find it you know keep trying to find it it's very important
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very and if it is if i'm right then there is if there are detox protocols to get those magnetic
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metals out that might be a way to cure them right so in brief do you think maybe intravenous edta
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is a good thing i don't want to talk about any specific that is not so good but let's say anything
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which take those things out without harming okay all right thank you thank you anders on we go
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jim marv and then stephen to finish hey jim how are you um thanks very much for a great
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presentation thanks very much uh cecilia as well um you you know my thoughts the sarz cov2 spike
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protein you know who might be spared the people who repel the ace 2 receptor and the ace 2 receptor
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designed by jason mclellan has an active there it's a trimer three ace twos and one of them is
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placed in the up position which means it binds so the ace 2 is racially and i shouldn't say
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racial genetically specific and it repels the ace 2 receptor the k26r
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um ace 2 receptor and and and so there's your theoretical specificity of people who might not
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be harmed by this um so that addresses why the people who are designing this would have designed
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it not to harm them and not to harm their children uh not to harm not to bind to the ace 2 receptors
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in their brains and uh we can talk about this later on and and uh and you've talked to some
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people about the amish who may share the ace 2 receptor as well um my question is can i
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introduce for a second the amish what what about the amish they're in a good spot the amish red
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hair uh from the area of the uh ukraine originally um also may share the ace 2 receptor k26r
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with the uh with the kisarians that may not be affected by the sars-cov-2 spike protein ace 2
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that's what bobby kennedy was mentioning when they freaked out yeah he said that he was lambasted
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until until he was joined as a third party candidate to throw the election uh for the
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intelligence operative candidate whoever that might be because when you have three people just
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like the uh just like ross perot you know uh it's a free for all with the uh people who rig the
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elections this goes back to the department of defense and the intelligence community if they
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designed it they they had the antidotes right if the cia and the department of defense and the
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and the six eyes networks designed it then they have the antidotes they don't design a weapon
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without the antidotes and they know they're genetically specific so they have the genetic
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specific endos we have to ask them respectfully because they can kill us and uh and the question
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2:38:08
is the white house pandemic office the white house pandemic office is now run by the brigadier
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2:38:17
general former advisor to the joint chiefs seems have you guys addressed him and shown your data
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to the white house pandemic office because they are in charge of promoting the vaccines with the
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with the pastors they're the ones who are running the program the white house
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pandemic so i'd like you to maybe formulate something and and i'm wondering have you
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addressed your and do you have documents that you've actually sent to acog and the american
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medical association have you actually discussed sent your data directly to the chairman of the
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board of the a of the ama and and that would be a very important and getting a transcript of this
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call is one thing but getting assigned and and witnessed by two people affidavit that's a
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self-proving affidavit so even if they kill you it's still admissible in court we need to start
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giving the information to the opposition or to the people who say that they don't understand
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2:39:15
this spike protein is a weapon including the guy who designed it jason mcclellan
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we need to so so now going back to what's coming in the future we know that the avian flu peter
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mccullough said avian flu is a disease x we know that they're culling animals we're culling things
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we also have documentation that hydroxy chloroquine stops avian flu yes and maybe yeah
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chloroquine definitely yeah and so the is it looks like if you were making a biotera weapon
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wouldn't you make one antidote or a set of antidotes to kill them all and then make sure
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your friends had those antidotes while everybody else was forbidden to have those antidotes so the
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question is maybe and we know the hydroxy chloroquine half-life is 22 days so maybe
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taking a you know i'm not anybody's physician here ask your physician but maybe taking a pill
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2:40:10
of hydroxy chloroquine every month or every two weeks maybe beneficial and decreasing the likelihood
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of acquiring this disease and and you talked about the the safety of hydroxy chloroquine in pregnancy
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maybe everybody who's pregnant or even the even women are not precluded from taking the hydroxy
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chloroquine because we know it's very safe that's true so in this we should we should maybe be
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telling the white house pandemic office and the ama and everybody to start giving hydroxy chloroquine
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at least one pill a month to everybody in the united states including pregnant women who we
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know it's safe in and and maybe we have to get ahead of these people because it looks like
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hydroxy chloroquine may or chloroquine may also prevent zika okay jim jim so the well we don't
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believe pandemics occur jim i don't anyway well that's okay anyway you've expressed that
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i don't know anybody has a option expressed that beautifully jim take on board cilia take on board
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thank you jim marvin and steven tempus fugit as the as the romans would say marv i want to ask
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james uh you know we have an exploding mental illness in america do you see a correlation or
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causation of this mental illness epidemic with the our insane vaccine schedule that absolutely
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for absolutely i've published on that and and i spoke on that earlier when a year ago and again
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just a month ago when i used a governmental database there's there's a extraordinarily high
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uh breach of safety signal where the covet 19 vaccine is causing um not only psychiatric
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illnesses there's about six diagnoses in their database but number two it causes substantial
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increase in intellectual ability in dementia in inability to connect the dots and number three
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causes an increase or associated with an increase i should correct myself with suicide and suicidal
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ideation when you compare covet 19 versus all the other vaccines or even versus influenza vaccine
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2:42:27
are you identifying specific organic places in the brain now well i haven't and varus doesn't
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have the granularity to do that but it's a great question we know the spike protein is produced in
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you know pretty much every cell of the body it reaches with the lipid nanoparticle now
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and so um you know inflammation causes problems in the brain
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i can say this real quick there is a video online i think it's from about 2015's department of
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defense maybe this maybe some of you have seen it the presenter is presenting a vaccine that targets
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religious fervor in the middle east he says this vaccine can stop religious you know passion or
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conviction in middle eastern people that's what the presentation is i can't drop it in the comments
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it would take me a while to find it but i've i've seen it a couple of times so and that was many
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years ago so absolutely and and i've seen that too i can corroborate that all right very good
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thank you thank you marv all right last couple of questions to steven and thank you cilia and
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jim for being here this long steven can i jump really fast i think that was a hoax guys that was
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a video footage from a movie and my friend wrote an article using that and he got corrected so i'm
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not sure but that was our understanding that wasn't real but you know just putting that out there
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okay thanks thanks amy that's helpful thank you steven so um yeah so today we've been
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very fortunate to have two remarkable whistleblowers in there you know cilia with
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all the history of hiv and all the rest thalidomide and and then
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uh james thought with uh all this stuff about uh this uh vaccine um i oh before i forget peter
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underwood could you please contact me with the evidence you've got from the government as i
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understood it giving training courses to the people who to the advisors who work for the citizens
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2:44:47
advice bureau uh responsible for such phrases as vaccine buddy could you yeah i've got the complete
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set uh steven um i'm not sure i've got your email if you could put that in the chat so it's steven
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yeah i haven't got time so steven with a ph dot frost as in jack frost at bt internet dot com bt
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internet dot com yeah yeah okay bt internet dot com yeah okay i'll compile a complete set for you
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yeah and i just wanted to say very quickly that i was a little bit so vera shirav talking about the
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very important information about november 23 the lancet and march 24 as i heard any jm
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both talking about nazi medicine very interesting is that gaslighting this is just a rhetorical
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question uh is it gaslighting or they're just trying to get people used to the idea that it's
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kind of acceptable or whatever um as far as the bird flu and the zika goes i don't think that
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pandemics are possible because a deadly virus if viruses exist kills its host therefore pandemic
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can't occur and i think the whole diagnosis of covid 19 or avian flu for that matter bird flu
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uh is um a misdiagnosis and i have my reasons for that but i won't go into that i wanted to
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ask about we the intentional varying of lethality of the injections was mentioned i think that that's
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evidence of crime um and um in very serious crime in this case and also i think that i was puzzled
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about the uh you know we were dealing with a an injection we didn't even know what the
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contents were so quite apart from informed consent not being possible uh you would have thought
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because women weigh on average i think around about half to two-thirds of the weight so an
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average woman not not all an average woman lives uh weighs about half to two-thirds the weight of
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the average man so if they were targeting women then it was remarkable because i was thinking if
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it's dangerous this injection there was no informed consent nobody knew what was in the so there
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couldn't have been informed consent no doctors in the world knew what was in the injections and i
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still don't um then um uh so the point is this the dose dependence uh was ignored so the dose
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was ignored for women and men so we know as doctors that if you've got a uh you need to with a dodgy
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2:47:36
uh a medicine or one that you're not sure of you would maybe uh say well don't give the women
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and particularly not pregnant with the full dose you know but they did that but they also were
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mixing and matching if you remember so you could have the AstraZeneca in the UK and then you could
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have the um J&J or the uh Pfizer is outrageous uh you know i thought at the time why have none of
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the doctors noticed this so um so anyway so i don't i wonder what you think of that uh in particular
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James but also i encourage you i think it would be great to get a transcript of this call um and
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but i also i encourage you please to remember to name the bastards responsible for this the worst
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ones thank you so much yeah i think your comments regarding the variance in lethality is really a
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strong smoking gun for criminality uh you know you look at the study by Schmeling and colleagues
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from northern europe and it's interesting i'm in rough figures about 70 percent of the individuals
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that got the vaccine they they knew they had the vaccine they had significant um effects either
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locally either minor but they were very significant but 30 percent apparently had absolutely nothing
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as if they got saline or nothing and then of course um the five percent um were very severely
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2:49:14
injured or or died i'm i'm averaging those out rough estimates so then what's the cause of the
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variance there's no good answer for that that can suggest that um there's not some intention involved
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if they were experimenting and giving placebo that violated that's very serious criminal behavior
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if if there was some other purpose uh that's it's not good and also james what what do you think
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is the medical doctor about the lack of advice for women you know so a woman who is the average
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woman is half to a third of the weight of the average man um and we know as doctors that if you
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that you should vary the dose uh according to the weight if uh yes with certain drugs that's
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happening so why wasn't it in this case why was it so kamikaze or uh reckless and missing a matching
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as well well great point i mean it's a your your point with regard to a dose per body weight is
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very important and and even more to your point why was a pfizer uh 30 microgram of mrna
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and i believe maderna originally was three times that 90 microgram of mrna
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and they reduced it
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james they they reduced it from 90 to 30 micrograms no when they originally came out
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um as i understand steven that they that their original dose was uh was of maderna was three
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times that of mrna it was 90 microgram whereas pfizer was 30 microgram that's my understanding
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wow yeah that would create even more confusion so it seems to me that if they did have placebos
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uh in different uh goodness knows how they would do that but but that is uh
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just pure recklessness because actually without they're playing god aren't they there
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let's remember there's another really important point here steven that that you're touching on
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and that is this remember the process of the phase uh before the rollout they did a horrible
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bait and switch um the manufacturing process for the vaccine before the public rollout
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2:51:51
was totally different it was a totally different process and when they got the eua and the mass
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2:51:59
rollout rolled out they completely did another separate mass rollout then that in of itself is
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2:52:04
illegal because that should have been studied and it wasn't and that purportedly you know certainly
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caused a lot of variance in the batches but it also causes confusion and that plays into their
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role in creating fear and when when human beings are afraid they do ridiculous things
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and they know that i think so um and what about the naming the people the bastards uh responsible
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i'm naming them i name them every day in the book will it will it be mentioned in the book
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but you don't have to say now thanks to you it will thanks to you and this meeting it will
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yeah so charles uh raised it but i'm yes oh you and charles and this meeting i will
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i'm i'm making the executive editorial decision right now that's gonna
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have all right we're at the three hour mark i'm shocked that jim and cilia have you haven't been
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in the toilet yet steven great questions everybody great questions um steven would you thank jim and
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cilia for this contribution to our learning well obviously thank you so much jim and uh cilia
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brilliance and the point that i make everybody at war steven remember in a war there are soldiers
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jim is a soldier on the front line but the cilia you touched on it you know the point of these
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2:53:31
meetings is for us to come together almost like a house you know a conversation or we're like we're
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2:53:38
like the restaurant on the you know behind the front lines feeding people spiritually and mentally
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2:53:43
so then go back into the war and fight the war so you know every point this is where we find out
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so this is where we find our allies we need allies in the war we absolutely need allies and one thing
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i want to say very briefly is you know there's this little cottage industry you might say that's
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always taking aim at the wellness company i have nothing to do with the wellness company
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2:54:08
when we're the other but i feel that the enemy is going to exploit that kind of thing and i'm
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just kind of dreading that and anybody who can that's exactly what's going on and charles i
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appreciate the compliment for uh not having to get up to go to the bathroom but i i have a
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2:54:23
confession to make and that's because i've got i had a suit coat and a tie and a shirt on but
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there's nothing on under that so i needed to go to the bathroom but i can't stand up
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beautifully put i love it i love it i love it but seriously you guys this thing about like inside
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2:54:37
2:54:45
the movement this the main theme seems to be people like us being attacked for being all kinds
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2:54:50
of things and that's actually very very hazardous when you're on the front line as i've been for a
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2:54:57
very long time i don't know what to do about it but just ignore it you know ignore it cilia
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that's what i do yeah i'm not so good at that but yeah they've already come after us and said that
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we're of all things grifters it's just it's just insane what a ridiculous word as well i know well
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right but what i'm saying is i they already have a powerful troll factory in place just from
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jim putting the cover up the book isn't even out so i'm not being negative i've just been through
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2:55:30
it so many times so many ways and uh we just remember remember brandy vaughn remember brandy
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vaughn she remember who yeah she was knocked off and uh i'm not threatening you guys but i'm
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going to stand up here in a little bit and go to the bathroom all right everybody thank you thank
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you cilia thank you for all the thank you for having contributions thanks for having us
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see you next time bye bye thanks steve thanks everybody thank you jim thank you cilia i agree
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with you the words are very important the words which you use and and that's why the classics are
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2:56:07
so important because they they tested the words i think the messages are made powerful by the
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words chosen what do you know about this that's right be a be a diplomat so that when you tell
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2:56:16
people to go to hell it's you can tell them to go to hell in such a way that they're looking
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2:56:17
forward to the journey
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bye everybody
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ablas bye bye we continue