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Hello everyone, welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International.
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This group was founded over four years ago by Stephen Frost, a British trained medical
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I'm Charles Kovash, your moderator in Australia at this time.
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We remember Anna de Bussere who died a year ago, a true freedom warrior lawyer.
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Arno van Kessel who is unlawfully jailed in the Netherlands and Ryan LaFolmick unlawfully jailed
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in Jerusalem.
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We call for the immediate release of both of those lawyers.
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Our group is a blend of voices of professions from all around the world, not just medical
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Many once viewed vaccines as benign.
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Now many wear the badge of passionate anti-vaxxers with pride, including me and anybody who
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takes a vaccine must know that the godfather of vaccines, the one book you got up there,
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the Salary Report, the godfather of vaccines himself, Stanley Plotkin has conceded that
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no vaccine in human history has ever been properly tested for safety and efficacy.
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And I bring to your attention the book Forbidden Facts by Gavin De Becker.
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Read it, carry it in your pocket.
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And anyone who says vaccines are safe and effective, just pull this book out and say
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to them, here's my resource, what's yours?
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Because their resource does not exist.
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Do not jab yourself as Judy Mikovits has said to us.
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Stop putting stuff into your body, particularly toxins.
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First timers, you're warmly welcomed.
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Introduce yourself in the chat, share where you're from.
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We're in the thick of a global struggle that we call World War Three with medical and scientific
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battles among 12 battle fronts.
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The propaganda battlefront is another one.
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The spiritual battlefront is another.
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We're five and a half years into this fight with more to come.
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There's no room for weariness.
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Stay strong, stay healthy.
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Science we know is never done.
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It thrives on challenge and inquiry.
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Some here believe in viruses, others see them as fiction, and many are still exploring.
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All views fuel our dialogue.
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We'll hear from our guest presenter, Alexander Makouris, UK barrister originally from the
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land of the Greeks and allegedly democracy.
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We know it was democracy, but also an expert on Russia and geopolitical matters and co-founder
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of the Duran.
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Alexander will speak for as long as he wishes, and then we'll be followed by Q&A per tradition.
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Stephen Frost opens the questioning for the first 15 minutes.
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This is a free speech haven appropriately moderated to keep ideas flowing.
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Free speech is our weapon to safeguard human liberties.
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If something offends you, be offended.
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And if in your day-to-day life someone says to you, I'm offended by what you say, never
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apologise.
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And one of the good, I've got nine standard responses to that issue.
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If someone says they're offended, tell them you're offended, that they dare to say they're
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offended, and now you're both offended.
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So what do they suggest happens?
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However, we choose love over fear.
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Fear binds and sickens and diminishes and squashes.
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Love liberates, heals, inspires and expands you.
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These twice weekly gatherings are far from mere talk.
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They've birthed real world actions and alliances.
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A key tactic in our fight for exposing medical crimes on social media, rallying behind the
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demand of medical truth now.
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I'm losing the show.
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What we want is medical truth now.
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And this book is heading there as is Aaron's series book, Vaccines, Amen, that I'm almost
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finished reading.
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It's just a wonderfully put together book by Aaron, who deposed Stanley Plotkin for
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nine hours, as many of you know.
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Medical truth now is crafted by John Rappaport, who is also presented to us.
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So we're thrilled that Alexander McCourus has come back to speak to us again.
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Let me give you a bit of background about Alexander for those who don't know him.
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These are in the show notes.
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And and and and.
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Where did I put my wonderful background on you, Alexander?
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Golly, gosh, how disappointing.
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Just one second.
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I'll get it.
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So Alexander was born in Athens in 1961, arrived in London in 1968 at the age of seven.
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He was educated at University College London, got a BA in modern history in first class
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honours, passed his solicitor finals in 87, called to the bar in 2006.
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He's been political advisor and speechwriter to the Minister of Culture in Greece from
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1981 to 1994.
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He's been in private legal practice for 10 years, solicited at the Royal Courts of
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Justice for 11 years.
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He's been a writer commentator on Russian and world affairs for since 2012, which is
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13 years, and is the co-founder of the Duran website and the Duran channel in 2018.
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Alexander, great to have you again and touch on the issue of jury trial and the appointment
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of judges before you get back into your thing as requested by Stephen.
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Over to you and you can share your screen any time you wish.
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Absolutely.
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Can I just say thank you very much for inviting me here again.
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And I'm very, very happy to be here.
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Well, we were talking about jury trial and it was discussed and it was raised about the
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fact that David Lammy, who is now a Minister of Justice, basically wants to massively
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restrict jury trial and it's also been pointed out that the appointment of judges by the
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government, in effect, without supervision by parliament or without any parliamentary
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role is also a massive attack on liberty, on the ability of people to exercise their
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rights of liberty and their protections under the law and a massive, massive expansion of
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governmental power.
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And this is absolutely correct.
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Now, if I could talk first about jury trial, I've seen juries in action.
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I've never actually argued cases before juries because I was never involved in criminal cases
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or anything of that kind.
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I know many, many people who have worked in the criminal justice system as barristers,
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as judges, as lawyers, and I've known people who have been prosecuted through the criminal
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justice system, all of them, and I can say this without any exceptions at all, and they're
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people of many different views and different backgrounds.
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All of them are agreed that jury systems are absolutely a fundamental part of protecting
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liberty and freedom and making, ensuring that justice works properly and justice is properly
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The very last thing you want to do is to have judges, judges alone, or even appointed judges
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with appointed magistrates conducting trials.
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That would make a kind of bureaucratic system take over the justice system.
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If I can just give an example of what I mean, if you are expecting a court system to actually
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be open to ideas about virus, vaccines, medical things, you absolutely want to have juries
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to argue these points before because judges, and I've worked with many judges in my time
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in the High Court and elsewhere, are almost by definition going to go with the conventional
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wisdom, and they're going to be very, very resistant to argument.
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Now having worked within the Royal Courts of Justice, I have seen judges, I've seen
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the judicial system work from the inside, I've seen the High Court system work from
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Even then, in the 90s, the way in which judges were appointed was incredibly opaque.
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It was basically done without any real external check by the law chancellor's department,
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which is today the Ministry of Justice.
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It's absolutely part of the executive.
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This is a bureaucratic extension of the power of the state.
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Anybody who thinks that judges are not ultimately state functionaries is mistaken.
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I mean, that's the politest word I can use.
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Many of them are decent people.
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Many of them care about the law.
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But over the time that I have been following legal practice, I would say that gradually,
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steadily, they have become more and more closer to government, to state, to the way in which
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the functions of the state work.
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So you need juries, you need the outside people to come in, in order to provide the check.
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It is absolutely part of our legal tradition, and it's a key part of the system of democracy
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and freedom.
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Democracy, all right, we can be cynical about it.
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But in terms of introducing the outside people, the outside, the public, 12 jurors, I would
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absolutely not deal with it.
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And the point that was made previously, that the problems in the legal system have very
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little to do with juries are absolutely true.
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It was mentioned that the legal system is underfunded, which is true as well.
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But I would just add something else, which is important to say.
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One of the other problems is the enormous expansion of law, the way in which law, new
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law is being produced all the time.
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And much of it simply duplicates law, which already exists and which takes it further
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and further away, in fact, from the simpler conceptions of law that previously existed.
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And I have a particular issue, for example, with a lot of the so-called terrorism legislation,
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which is enormously cumbersome and which simply criminalizes or recriminalizes things which
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are already criminal.
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Terrorists never do anything that isn't criminal already, if you think about it.
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But what it is doing, what it does, again, is that it weakens what lawyers and most people
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as due process and again, places more control into the hands of the judiciary.
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And I'll give an example, and this is where I'll start, because obviously we can talk
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about this for hours, and I would certainly love to talk about this for hours.
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But one of the things that has been happening increasingly, and I personally have been warned
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against, is that several people that I know, people who are commentators, including a member
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of the House of Lords, and have been critical of government policy, have been stopped at
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airports and at other entry points, railway stations, coming into Britain, questioned
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under the terrorism acts, told that they have no right of silence, no right to legal representation
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when they are questioned.
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And these people have nothing to do with terrorism.
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They're not in any way connected with terrorist organizations or terrorist issues.
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It's just being used basically to mount phishing expeditions, to take away their laptops and
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their mobile phones and documents that they might be carrying and to open the way for
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searches.
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The judiciary is upholding this practice, just as the judiciary is upholding the practice
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of the British government imposing sanctions against individuals using the Russian sanctions
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as the vehicle to do it, which again punishes people who are British citizens without recourse
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And again, the courts have upheld it.
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There was a recent case in the Supreme Court which upheld it.
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One judge on the Supreme Court spoke out against it.
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That was Lord Leggett.
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But the majority, because they are ultimately functionaries, went along with it.
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So I've spoken at length.
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This is obviously a matter that I feel strongly about.
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But that's what I wanted to say.
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And obviously people want to ask me questions and they are free to.
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What I wanted to talk about, and in fact I saw it was coming up very much in the discussions
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that have been happening, is absolutely the point about free speech and about free speech
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being about the ability to cause offence.
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And in fact, if you take away the right to cause offence, then by definition there is
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no free speech.
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Now what is extraordinary about this is that this has been well or was or used to be very
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well understood indeed.
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There's actually a line of cases stretching back to the 19th century, particularly in
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the United States, that make that very point.
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If you go back to the 18th century in this country, in Britain, you could argue, in fact
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could properly argue that the Wilkes case, which was dates in the 18th century, in which
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John Wilkes, a journalist, said things that were critical about the King, is about the
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same point.
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Absolutely free speech is about saying things that will offend people.
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If you take that away, obviously you have no free speech.
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And this is true about medical matters.
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There are lots of people out there, for example, who believe in viruses, who believe in vaccines,
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who believe in all kinds of treatment.
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They would be furious if you told them that if you consent to having your children injected,
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then that might be putting your children at risk, just to give an example.
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But that's what you have to do.
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That's what the right of free speech must be.
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Because if you take that away, then again, you're appointing a hierarchy of people who
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say they know the truth, who are the priesthood, if you like, the gatekeepers of what is acceptable.
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And of what is not.
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And then, of course, all discussion, all free debate ends.
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And with the ending of free debate and with free discussion, science stops.
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Now I am not a scientist.
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I never have been.
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But again, I know a little bit about the history of science, stretching way back into the Middle
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Ages and beyond.
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And what I would say this is that the progress, the advance of science, or so it seems to
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me, has always depended on free speech, on the ability of people to argue with each other,
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to make radical points, points that might be contentious, which people might disagree
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with, people which might offend others.
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And that's how things move forward.
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If you take away, again, the ability of people to argue and to cause offense, then science
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cannot advance.
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You are back to the situation which Galileo faced in the late 16th and early 17th century,
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when he argued that the system where the planets revolve around the Earth is wrong, and the
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is the system where the planets revolve around the sun.
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And that caused great offense to many people.
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And as we know, he was severely punished and in fact silenced for it and was made to retract
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because of it.
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And it is widely accepted.
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And this is well known amongst historians.
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This I can say with confidence because I've studied this period, that the fact that in
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Italy restrictions of that kind were placed on free speech, on the ability to argue and
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to debate, stultified science in the Mediterranean world and made it possible for science instead
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to move to Northern Europe, to the Netherlands, ultimately to England.
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And that is why the great scientific advances were made in Northern Europe instead of in
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the South.
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So one of the alarming things that has happened over the last 30 years or so is we've had
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this concept that people must be comfortable, that they must not be challenged.
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It's said all the time.
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I've experienced it myself.
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I have to face it every day when I go out on YouTube, there are always people there
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keeping an eye on what I'm saying.
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I have to use elliptical words, a complex language in order to get my points across and to be
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careful of what I say.
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And of course, that isn't free speech.
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It restricts what people want to say, what people want, need to hear.
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And that leads from one problem to another.
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And it makes things more difficult and worse and worse.
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And I spoke about science, but politics is no different.
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We made major mistakes in politics, which we have done.
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And in foreign policy, for example, it's precisely because there are all sorts of issues
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which are not open any longer to discussion.
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So that was what I wanted to say.
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But we can also discuss trial by jury, the criminal justice system, the very, very frightening
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things that are happening there.
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And believe me, they are frightening.
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Excellent, Alexander.
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Thank you so much for that.
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So you're not going to touch on Russia yet?
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There'll be a question.
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Oh, well, I'm sure there'll be lots of questions about Russia.
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So, OK, the laws in the UK we've been observing in Australia, Australia is following the same
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pattern of bringing in these disinformation laws and misinformation.
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And it is up to us.
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That's why we come to this group.
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It's up to us to not comply, to not consent to these laws.
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And the more that we comply for convenience sake, and Sarah Myhill, welcome.
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She's a doctor who didn't comply and there are many doctors here who didn't comply, including
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The that willingness, the choice is clear.
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You either take the steps and push back against what you don't believe and and laws that attack
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our inalienable rights, which I consider to be free speech, and the right to a job and
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the right not to be killed.
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And if we don't push back against it, the state will take over.
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Like it's it become as bad as it ever was in the days of Stalin.
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So that's the choice that we have.
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And sometimes I wonder, Alexander, when you look at North Korea, while Stephen's collecting
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his thoughts and others can put their hands up in due course.
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But in North Korea, there are 20 million people, one million looked after by the state magnificently.
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And essentially, each of those one million looks after 19 people and monitors everything
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that they do.
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It's a wonderful control system.
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And that's where the UK and in my opinion, the UK, I say this publicly many times, the
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UK is lost.
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Bad luck, you're gone, unless something radical happens with the 85% who are not Islamic,
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because Islam will take over the UK and the double and triple legal system is going to
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be a disaster.
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And there's ongoing attempts in Australia to do the same thing.
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You have two legal systems, one for the indigenous, one for special groups, and one for the rest
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of the people.
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So Alexander, you know, the work is cut out.
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And that's, you know, the question of I keep asking Mark Dyer and other people in the UK,
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whether the people are going to rise up.
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And I'm interested in your thoughts, whether they will.
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Can I just before we talk about that, say that what you say about Australia is massively
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concerning, because one thing I can tell you is that the British courts look at what happens
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to us in Australia.
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The decisions of the Australian courts are treated as precedents in England, ahead of
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those say, decisions on common law issues made in the United States, the High Court
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of Australia.
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It's the right title is very well regarded in England.
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And Australia used to be a check, because Australia was always believed in England to
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have a stronger commitment to free speech than England did.
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Because you know, we've had free speech in England, but there's always been opposition
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also, there's always come from government, a desire to restrict free speech.
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It goes all the way back again to the Wilkes case, where we had the Official Secrets Acts
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we've had all of these things, whereas Australia pushed back in the 1980s.
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I very well remember the Spycatcher case, which was a book published by a dissident
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British intelligence officer.
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He couldn't publish it in Britain.
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He published it in Australia.
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And because it was published in Australia, it was eventually published in Britain.
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I have, by the way, the Australian edition here in that library behind me.
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And it made a difference.
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It opened up the system in Britain.
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If Australia is closing down, then that is very bad news for us.
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So please, in Australia, do fight back.
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In Britain, we are trying to fight back.
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It's more difficult perhaps here, because well, I don't know how difficult or easy
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it is in Australia, but it's very difficult here in Britain.
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But we do fight back.
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I was talking about this practice of people being stopped at airports, but we're trying
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to make legal challenges against this.
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So if we lose, however, your example, well, it becomes more difficult still.
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It is a problem.
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And the courts with the left-wing government of Albanese continues that trend.
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And you made a comment that judges go with conventional wisdom.
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Another variation of that is that judges don't make culture.
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They follow culture.
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And so it's up to us, as in wherever you live, it's up to us to drive that culture.
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That culture is, I do not consent to the taking away of my inalienable rights.
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So everybody, that's why we're here.
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So Stephen, the next 15 minutes is yours, buddy.
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Alexander, I'm not sure that you...
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So the bit that you've just done on jury trial and appointment of judges
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was incredibly useful to us, to me, a non-lawyer.
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But I do understand the law because I've had a brush with it in my huge whistleblowing case.
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So I'm not sure what you...
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Were you going to just do questions and answers throughout the...
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Or did you have a presentation that you would like...
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Did you want to speak?
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Because that was only a prelude, as I understood it.
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But maybe you just want to have questions and answers.
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I would be happy to do questions and answers because...
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The whole thing.
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If that's correct.
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Yeah, absolutely, yes.
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Yeah, so one of my questions is listening to you.
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It seems that lawyers like to meddle with the law, which they try to follow, or do they?
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Changes to the law, take it further and further away from the people,
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or from the intention of the good lawyers, shall we say.
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So the Nuremberg Code, in my opinion, is highly relevant.
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But it was actually designed by American prosecutors,
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or by people following up on the prosecutions, American prosecutions, of the doctors.
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The doctors' trial in Nuremberg, which is absolutely...
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It's all about human medical experimentation, which of course is exactly what was going on
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in 2020, 2021, 2022, still going on.
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Because huge numbers of people, in my opinion, as the doctor,
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have got Stockholm syndrome and they don't even realise it.
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And the doctors haven't realised it either,
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which means it's not going to be diagnosed, and if it's not diagnosed, nobody can be helped.
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So all these people wandering around in trance since 2020, never recovered,
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can't travel suddenly, never laugh these days.
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They've lost themselves, they've lost their souls, and they don't even realise.
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They've been robbed of their souls by the perpetrators,
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and nobody's been held to account.
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And the ridiculous inquiry, Covid inquiry in the UK, finds that,
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we should have locked down earlier.
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No, we should never have locked down at all.
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Any doctor in the world should have known.
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It was obvious they didn't need proof.
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They just needed to speak out and say it's not appropriate to isolate human beings,
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because we are highly social animals.
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We learned that at my medical school.
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Highly social animals, very dangerous to isolate babies and children, and anybody, in fact.
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So they outrageously did it.
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The governments did it all around the world, arrogantly, and the doctors went along with it.
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The doctors should never have gone along with it.
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It was absolutely crazy.
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So anyway, human medical experimentation in 2020, still going on, in my opinion.
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Nobody held to account for it.
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And the Nuremberg Code is there.
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And when I first mentioned the Nuremberg Code in 2021, I think it was,
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I was talking about the Nuremberg, maybe in 2020 as well.
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I was told that, you know, it's a bit harsh to be talking about human medical experimentation
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and the Nuremberg Code.
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But actually, I realize now, it wasn't harsh at all.
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It was just, it was absolutely appropriate to talk about the Nuremberg Code.
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And then a lot of Americans were saying, oh, it doesn't apply in America.
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Doesn't apply.
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No, it had come to be diluted by exactly what you were talking about.
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The people meddling with the law, they knew what they were doing.
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The Nuremberg Code was indirigible, was intended to be indirigible.
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And then all of a sudden, the Helsinki Protocols and the goodness knows what else,
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watered it all down.
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And then people got the message.
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The Nuremberg Code didn't matter.
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But it was an absolutely brilliant document.
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You've only got to read it to see how appropriate it was, how relevant it was to what happened in
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So I just wonder what your thoughts are on this because this goes to the very heart of
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the reason that I formed this group.
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Whenever people, whenever lawyers say that this is something too harsh or too complicated
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or too far in the past, then you need to be extremely careful because that is their way
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of avoiding and evading responsibilities.
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I mean, we go back to trial by jury, for example.
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Trial by jury is enshrined in, I think it's Article 39 of Magna Carta, which is still
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relevant law.
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It actually says that the king will not come after you or punish you except by due process
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of law and by trial by your peers.
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That's that.
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So that's that is the core foundational document.
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It's the first.
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It's the first imported English statute.
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I mean, there are a few others, but it's the first one.
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But of course, you try and move away from it.
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You come up with new laws and do all of those things.
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Now, I am astonished to hear that in the United States of all places, they would say that
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the Nuremberg Code on any matter has been superseded because all of Nuremberg, every
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single part of Nuremberg, the Nuremberg principles altogether are products of American
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jurisprudence.
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It was this was a period of time in the late 19th and early 20th century when American
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jurisprudence reached heights which have perhaps never been equals, well, certainly have been
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equal since.
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And they brought it all together in Nuremberg.
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They tried the the Nazi, well, the various war criminals there, and they specifically
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said, and they said it many times throughout the trials, this is not this is authoritative
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and it applies always and it applies to us to us ourselves.
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They actually said this.
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So for them to come around along now and say, well, actually, you know, it doesn't really
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apply anymore.
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It was all in the past.
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We've now moved beyond.
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We've made our law a little more interesting and more complicated and all of that.
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I mean, frankly, I mean, that staggers me.
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It horrifies me.
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It doesn't surprise me because it is happening all the time.
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As I said, law is the more law is produced, the less law there really is.
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You don't want too much law.
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You want as little law as possible.
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This is, by the way, a very well understood legal principle, going all the way back to
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when law was first really thought about, you know, thousands of years ago by the Romans,
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by the Roman jurists.
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As less law as you can, because the more law you have, the more law is controlled by the
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lawyers who then become themselves a caste and who ultimately controls the lawyers.
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Well, ultimately, governments and bureaucracies and those kind of officials do.
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So I think those are those are the few things I would say.
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Now, you know, is it permissible for me to ask a question here?
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Can I just ask this question?
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Why did so many why did the medical professions overall support lockdowns?
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Because I am not a doctor.
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I am not somebody who knows very much about medical science.
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But if I switch on my television or the radio, whatever,
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and I read in the newspapers that everybody, all the medical agencies, all the BMA in Britain,
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every one of them is telling you lockdown is what is needed.
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Well, how am I who am not a doctor, who I'm not an expert going to argue against it?
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Now, as it happens, because I've worked with experts, I am very, I am sometimes a bit more
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careful in accepting advice of so-called experts.
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And when I see statisticians or people who say they're statisticians
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making comments about medical matters, I wonder whether these are people who are really experts.
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Alexander, trust me, lockdown should never have happened.
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Well, explain to me why it was done with the doctors.
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I mean, I know why lawyers behave the way.
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Because the government was careful to create multiple cults, including a doctor's cult,
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which was supporting the NHS and getting the NHS through the winter and all this nonsense.
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Well, actually, the summer saved the NHS and they were getting people to clap on it.
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It was absolute disgrace what the doctors did.
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And when I pointed out the Nuremberg Code to them in December of 2020,
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because on December the 8th, a certain individual in the United Kingdom was the first
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person in the world to receive the Covid vaccine.
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And guess what his name was, Alexander?
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He couldn't make this up.
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Can you remember?
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I don't remember.
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William Shakespeare.
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Of course.
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If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.
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There's no chance that that first patient who got the Covid jab in the United Kingdom,
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and thereby the whole world, the first person in the world to receive,
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was called William Shakespeare.
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And yet people accepted it unquestioningly.
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It was just ridiculous.
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So what they did in the medical profession, they created a dangerous cult, if you like, of fear.
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And the doctors couldn't, that's being generous to them.
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They are doctors, so they should have understood that this was wrong.
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They didn't understand.
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It's a disgrace what happened.
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And I don't care.
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I will talk to any doctor in the world and say the exact same thing,
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and they won't have an argument.
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I know it.
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And they just want me to disappear when I start talking about it.
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Any doctor who spoke out against the narrative got struck off by the general medical council.
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That was the problem.
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Well, it's not the only problem.
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Well, sorry, Alexander.
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It's a lack of courage to stand up for what you believed in,
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and also an inability to work towards the truth with other human beings who they...
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Sorry, Alexander.
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Can I answer your question?
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As a GP who's on the front line...
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Yeah, so anyway, Alexander, this is very important.
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It's really important.
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So the people who aren't doctors need to understand that the best people to explain to them
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what's happened to them in 2020, 2021, and what's still happening to them now,
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are medical doctors, very unfortunately.
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The good ones, the ones who paid for their beliefs as I did, as Sarah Myhill has done.
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Or Jerry Waters, yes.
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So there are many others, as you know,
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but there are not as many as you would like.
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So there was an atmosphere of coercion and fear.
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Sorry, Alexander, can I just point out, as a GP on the front line in 2020, during 2020,
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and having done it for 40 years, 40 previous winters I'd been through the flu season,
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and first of all, the first thing you got to realize that they actually missed the flu season.
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Flu season is sort of November, December, January, February, and this came in in March.
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So I knew instantly there was no pathogen in my community.
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I couldn't speak about any other community.
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In my community, there was no pathogen as such, nothing unusual.
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In fact, it was a low pathogenic flu season.
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And I spoke to my GP colleagues, I spoke to a number of colleagues,
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and they all kind of said, yeah, there's nothing much there, there's nothing much there.
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So then your question has to be, why did they row in,
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in the absolute knowledge that there was nothing there?
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Well, it was quite subtle.
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In Ireland, and I think this was probably reflected around the world,
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they start paying us 70 euros per telephone consultation.
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This sounds crazy, but this is the truth.
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0:38:46
And your nurse or your secretary could take the telephone calls,
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0:38:48
or you could take them from bed at home.
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0:38:48
0:38:52
And, you know, so lots of doctors sat in their pajamas,
525
0:38:52
0:38:56
we were told not to examine our patients, you know,
526
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0:39:00
and we weren't even allowed to take our patients out of their cars.
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0:39:00
0:39:01
They sat in the car.
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0:39:01
0:39:07
So with the result, the nurses and secretaries and doctors were doing consultations
529
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0:39:11
at 70 euros a tro, plus their salaries.
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0:39:12
0:39:13
This is the truth.
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0:39:19
And that what that was, that was the first couple of shovels digging the hole.
532
0:39:19
0:39:21
So they start digging the hole.
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0:39:21
0:39:27
So for the best part, between March of 2020, and, you know, the end of 2020,
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0:39:30
they were digging this hole and making a fortune.
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0:39:32
Absolutely.
536
0:39:32
0:39:37
And then when some of them began to cop on that this wasn't true,
537
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0:39:40
they were too deep in because they had stayed at home,
538
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0:39:45
saying, oh, this is so pathogenic that you know, you couldn't even touch a patient,
539
0:39:45
0:39:47
you couldn't look at a patient.
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0:39:47
0:39:51
At that stage, I was saying, I was saying, do a post mortem on everybody.
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0:39:54
And to actually prove what I'm saying, everything,
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0:39:55
0:40:00
I said all this to my academic body, the ICGP and to Department of Health.
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0:40:03
I was saying all this, let's do post mortems.
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0:40:06
Let's diagnose the cause of death in elderly people.
545
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0:40:07
And they wouldn't.
546
0:40:07
0:40:10
And the reason they wouldn't, because if you did a post mortem,
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0:40:15
they would prove that in effect, people were not dying of the characteristic
548
0:40:15
0:40:19
changes that happened in the alveoli of people with or at that stage,
549
0:40:19
0:40:25
they were saying the people with COVID were dying with characteristic alveolar
550
0:40:25
0:40:27
changes within the blood vessels.
551
0:40:28
0:40:31
They wouldn't allow post mortems because part of the reason
552
0:40:31
0:40:35
for not doing post mortems that it was too deadly, it was too serious.
553
0:40:35
0:40:40
And I was saying to everybody, I will open the patients for post mortems
554
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0:40:41
without wearing a mask.
555
0:40:42
0:40:44
That would have been a stupid thing to do because they might have had
556
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0:40:45
something else.
557
0:40:45
0:40:47
But that's what I was saying to my patients.
558
0:40:47
0:40:51
And right through all of that year, I was saying I wouldn't do phone
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0:40:52
consultations.
560
0:40:52
0:40:56
I was bringing my patients in, I was examining them face to face, no masks,
561
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0:40:58
no PPI, no nothing.
562
0:40:59
0:41:02
That upset the medical council.
563
0:41:02
0:41:05
So anyway, that's how it started.
564
0:41:05
0:41:08
They took in the GPs with money.
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0:41:08
0:41:11
Then the GPs couldn't back out because they've been saying, oh, this is
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0:41:11
0:41:13
dreadful, dreadful, dreadful disease.
567
0:41:13
0:41:14
And they couldn't back out.
568
0:41:14
0:41:19
And then when they brought in the vaccines, they were giving 61 euros for
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0:41:19
0:41:20
giving the vaccines.
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0:41:20
0:41:24
And we were getting 18 euros for doing a flu vaccine.
571
0:41:24
0:41:26
It was all about money initially.
572
0:41:26
0:41:28
It was about greed.
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0:41:28
0:41:31
And obviously, there was a lot of stupidity and ignorance on the part of
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0:41:33
my GP colleagues.
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0:41:33
0:41:35
But that's the bottom line.
576
0:41:35
0:41:42
Now, the regulatory bodies were bought over by getting large grants and lots
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0:41:42
0:41:44
of money and flowing into it.
578
0:41:44
0:41:46
But that answers your question.
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0:41:48
It was the GPs who knew the truth.
580
0:41:50
0:41:51
Okay, Jerry.
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0:41:52
Good job.
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0:41:53
0:41:55
It wasn't just about money, though, in my opinion.
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0:42:00
I'm sorry to say it was a complete failure to understand how the practice of
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0:42:04
medicine should be done and also the duty of doctors to be autonomous, to
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0:42:04
0:42:08
stand with their autonomy and resist a government who tried to tell them what
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0:42:12
to do through the Coronavirus Act in the United Kingdom, which they said only
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0:42:12
0:42:17
took them three weeks to author.
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0:42:17
0:42:19
But in fact, if you look at it, it's absolutely huge.
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0:42:19
0:42:22
There's no way they did it in less than six months, even the British government.
590
0:42:22
0:42:24
So it was a damned lie.
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0:42:24
0:42:27
And you couldn't, in the Coronavirus Act, you couldn't.
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0:42:27
0:42:30
They had got the post mortems dealt with there.
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0:42:30
0:42:34
The coroners couldn't do, couldn't perform their duties.
594
0:42:34
0:42:35
And this was all in the Coronavirus Act.
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0:42:37
It was all planned.
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0:42:37
0:42:40
And there's no doubt about that.
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0:42:40
0:42:46
But Alexander asked, why did the doctors, you know, be sucked in?
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0:42:49
And we as the GPs were on the front line.
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0:42:49
0:42:50
It was money.
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0:42:50
0:42:50
I'm sorry.
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0:42:51
0:42:53
Well, this is exactly the point.
602
0:42:53
0:42:57
This is the key thing, because what is being described here is a system of
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0:43:05
arbitrary pressure and corruption in a way, in a kind of corruption, and also fear.
604
0:43:05
0:43:11
People risk their professional careers if they don't fall into line.
605
0:43:11
0:43:15
And that brings us back to the earlier point, because this is where the law
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0:43:15
0:43:18
ought to be there to protect people who speak out.
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0:43:19
0:43:21
And the law failed.
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0:43:22
0:43:25
It is not just the doctors who failed.
609
0:43:25
0:43:27
It is the law which failed.
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0:43:27
0:43:33
Judges do not know about medical matters, but they should know what the law,
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0:43:35
they should understand.
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0:43:35
0:43:39
They should have a feeling of what law is for.
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0:43:44
And that is something that we have lost.
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0:43:44
0:43:51
I think that doctors, absolutely, you can be very, very critical of yourselves.
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0:43:54
And I no doubt many of you are.
617
0:43:55
0:43:57
No, not of our own, Alexander.
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0:44:01
Not of you as individuals, but of the profession.
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0:44:03
Yes, I have no regrets whatsoever.
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0:44:04
I'm not saying.
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0:44:06
0:44:11
The root of the cancer, if I could put it like that, is elsewhere.
622
0:44:11
0:44:16
It is in the fact that there is already a system of power that has been created.
623
0:44:16
0:44:21
It is already corrupting the way the legal system works,
624
0:44:21
0:44:27
because without the legal system, individuals who speak out can be picked off.
625
0:44:27
0:44:30
And free speech breaks down.
626
0:44:30
0:44:33
And the ability of people to say things which we discussed earlier,
627
0:44:33
0:44:40
which are offensive and which may go against the conventional wisdom breaks down, too.
628
0:44:40
0:44:46
And when you get into that kind of situation, you don't have law anymore.
629
0:44:46
0:44:53
You have something which is arbitrary and unjust and coercive.
630
0:44:53
0:44:55
And that is not law.
631
0:44:55
0:44:56
It is anti-law.
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0:44:57
0:45:03
Yeah, but before you talk about the fear, I was suspended then in February,
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0:45:03
0:45:07
the end of February 2021, because I wouldn't give the vaccine.
634
0:45:07
0:45:09
And I was suspended for four and a half years.
635
0:45:11
0:45:14
Now, the normal suspension is less than six months, you know,
636
0:45:15
0:45:17
before you actually brought before a full hearing.
637
0:45:17
0:45:18
I was brought before the High Court.
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0:45:18
0:45:22
And I believe there was a malicious prosecution because they withheld exculpatory evidence.
639
0:45:22
0:45:25
I've discussed this all with Charles.
640
0:45:25
0:45:28
But at the end of the day, yes, there was fear.
641
0:45:28
0:45:32
But what they had to do was get somebody's head and put it on a spike at the gates of the town.
642
0:45:32
0:45:36
It was my head that was on the spikes outside Dublin.
643
0:45:38
0:45:39
It was a good fear.
644
0:45:39
0:45:43
It frightened people because I don't look good on a spike, you know.
645
0:45:44
0:45:44
Of course not.
646
0:45:45
0:45:48
And as I said, it's arbitrary.
647
0:45:48
0:45:52
And there needs to be an ability.
648
0:45:52
0:45:55
The law needs to provide not just protection,
649
0:45:55
0:45:56
but an ability to challenge.
650
0:45:57
0:46:05
Because, again, the essence of law is that it's supposed to put limits on the powers
651
0:46:05
0:46:08
of its makers and of its enforcers.
652
0:46:09
0:46:12
If it is not that, then it is not law anymore.
653
0:46:15
0:46:17
Where is the world we live in?
654
0:46:18
0:46:21
But there's one thing that hasn't been spelled out to you, Alexander,
655
0:46:21
0:46:23
which you need to understand as a lawyer.
656
0:46:24
0:46:25
There was no pandemic.
657
0:46:27
0:46:31
And you try to argue with particularly medical doctors about this,
658
0:46:31
0:46:34
who may have a guilty conscience or whatever.
659
0:46:34
0:46:36
I don't think a lot of them understand.
660
0:46:36
0:46:40
They seem to have lost the ability to practice medicine.
661
0:46:40
0:46:42
So they don't take a proper history.
662
0:46:43
0:46:45
They don't examine their patients.
663
0:46:45
0:46:46
And guess what they do?
664
0:46:46
0:46:48
They test the patients first now.
665
0:46:48
0:46:51
And that's exactly what we were taught at medical school.
666
0:46:51
0:46:52
We should never do.
667
0:46:53
0:46:57
So somehow or other, doctors have forgotten how to practice medicine.
668
0:46:59
0:47:06
I know someone who has seen some cardiologists recently,
669
0:47:06
0:47:10
and two of those cardiologists didn't examine the patients.
670
0:47:12
0:47:13
Never mind.
671
0:47:13
0:47:13
All right.
672
0:47:15
0:47:16
David, your call.
673
0:47:16
0:47:17
Didn't take proper history either.
674
0:47:17
0:47:18
So, you know.
675
0:47:18
0:47:21
Stephen, we've got hands up.
676
0:47:21
0:47:23
And a very good point you make.
677
0:47:23
0:47:27
And Stephen, I have to report to you, as I was driving yesterday on the radio,
678
0:47:27
0:47:35
there was a PhD student saying, we're doing research on putting AI into doctors'
679
0:47:35
0:47:39
reception so that patients can, while they're waiting,
680
0:47:39
0:47:42
fill in answers to their background.
681
0:47:42
0:47:47
It's saying how wonderful this is, because patients under stress
682
0:47:47
0:47:51
won't remember important facts about their situation.
683
0:47:51
0:47:54
So how glorious this is going to be.
684
0:47:54
0:47:56
And Stephen, we've often said in this program,
685
0:47:56
0:47:59
the game plan is to remove doctors from the equation.
686
0:48:00
0:48:01
So that's the game, Alexander.
687
0:48:01
0:48:03
And no human being wants that.
688
0:48:03
0:48:07
Even though you may not like doctors, they did provide comfort.
689
0:48:07
0:48:09
I don't trust any of them now.
690
0:48:09
0:48:10
They've lost my trust.
691
0:48:10
0:48:13
And if they've lost my trust, they've probably lost the trust of…
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0:48:14
0:48:16
I trust doctors if I break my legs, Stephen.
693
0:48:18
0:48:19
I'm not sure I do then.
694
0:48:19
0:48:20
They miss the fracture.
695
0:48:22
0:48:22
All right.
696
0:48:22
0:48:23
Thank you.
697
0:48:23
0:48:26
And on we go.
698
0:48:27
0:48:28
We've got hands up.
699
0:48:28
0:48:28
We've got…
700
0:48:29
0:48:31
Jerry, you had your hand up.
701
0:48:31
0:48:34
You're first for a question of Alexander.
702
0:48:36
0:48:37
So you're first.
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0:48:37
0:48:41
Alexander, about Russia, or rather about Ukraine.
704
0:48:41
0:48:45
And I think that's primarily what you're know about.
705
0:48:45
0:48:47
I also put my hand up because I noticed no other hands were going up.
706
0:48:47
0:48:51
And I thought your intellect was intimidating and frightening people.
707
0:48:52
0:48:54
I too have that problem, Alexander.
708
0:48:54
0:48:59
People are often very frightened of my intellect and my expertise.
709
0:49:01
0:49:04
I'm also inclined to be frivolous and modest.
710
0:49:05
0:49:14
And just talking about Ukraine, what has amazed me when you look back on the cause of the
711
0:49:15
0:49:24
war, a special military operation, the encroachment of NATO eastward since 1991,
712
0:49:24
0:49:33
how is it that the politicians and the media, that you guys who are arguing this point,
713
0:49:33
0:49:34
don't get it through to them?
714
0:49:34
0:49:40
How can they be that dense that they don't understand what the point of the special
715
0:49:40
0:49:46
military operation was, given that it was about demilitarization, denacification,
716
0:49:48
0:49:53
protecting the Donbas, Lugansk, and then NATO, for it not to become NATO?
717
0:49:54
0:49:58
They seem like fairly reasonable aspirations.
718
0:49:59
0:50:05
And I know also from a Russian point of view, they're working it now along.
719
0:50:05
0:50:12
I know the term you hate is a meat grinder, how they're grinding up the human beings
720
0:50:12
0:50:14
and a steel grinder grinding up the machines.
721
0:50:21
0:50:23
It just doesn't seem to get through to people.
722
0:50:24
0:50:29
It's exactly the same reason that everybody believes in pandemics and vaccines and viruses
723
0:50:29
0:50:39
and all of these things, which is that there is an overwhelming consensus, a manufactured consensus,
724
0:50:39
0:50:41
which is imposed on everybody.
725
0:50:41
0:50:47
And you can be at very serious risk in career terms or in all kinds of terms,
726
0:50:47
0:50:49
if you speak out against it.
727
0:50:50
0:50:54
I know one politician, I probably shouldn't name him.
728
0:50:57
0:51:04
It was Rishi Sunak, can I just say this, who apparently, when he became prime minister,
729
0:51:04
0:51:08
said, really, is this Ukraine war something we really want to be involved in,
730
0:51:09
0:51:11
to the extent that we are?
731
0:51:12
0:51:17
And he was apparently told, I wasn't apparently told, he was told
732
0:51:17
0:51:25
that if you continue along that line of thought, you won't stay as prime minister for very long.
733
0:51:25
0:51:31
Now, I know that because somebody who Sunak had a conversation with,
734
0:51:32
0:51:39
somebody who's quite well known, told me the whole thing and described it all to me clearly.
735
0:51:39
0:51:41
So he didn't have the courage to stand out.
736
0:51:43
0:51:46
All kinds of politicians don't have the courage to stand out.
737
0:51:46
0:51:54
And again, many of them, no doubt, have private thoughts and private concerns.
738
0:51:55
0:51:59
But it is politically very risky for them to do it.
739
0:51:59
0:52:01
And for that reason, they don't do it.
740
0:52:01
0:52:03
And that's the truth with the media.
741
0:52:03
0:52:07
And it's true in politics.
742
0:52:07
0:52:10
And it's true in academia as well, by the way.
743
0:52:11
0:52:13
So as a result, it doesn't get discussed.
744
0:52:13
0:52:22
And even people like us on YouTube, at the Duran, we have to face all kinds of pressure every day.
745
0:52:24
0:52:25
Thank you.
746
0:52:25
0:52:27
Jerry, thank you.
747
0:52:27
0:52:27
Thank you.
748
0:52:27
0:52:33
And the media, of course, is driven by the advertisers who pay the money,
749
0:52:34
0:52:37
which Duran doesn't get a lot of money given to it.
750
0:52:37
0:52:38
All right.
751
0:52:38
0:52:42
John, John Howard, have a fine name from an Australian perspective.
752
0:52:43
0:52:45
But he's John Howard Wilhelm.
753
0:52:48
0:52:50
Unmute yourself, John.
755
0:52:52
0:52:54
This is great.
756
0:52:54
0:52:59
I spend a lot of time listening to Alexander Mercurius,
757
0:52:59
0:53:05
who I've known about even before the Ukraine situation, and greatly respect.
758
0:53:05
0:53:13
I have a background in the Soviet-Russian area,
759
0:53:14
0:53:23
and I had some troubling experience that got me examining the COVID situation in the United States.
760
0:53:24
0:53:30
And we have had a bipartisan COVID and Ukraine debacle
761
0:53:31
0:53:37
that reinforces my feelings that what is badly needed in the United States
762
0:53:37
0:53:41
is a voting reform, and in Great Britain as well,
763
0:53:41
0:53:46
a voting reform to open up our political processes to third parties.
764
0:53:47
0:53:52
And I would very much, in the context particularly of what's going on
765
0:53:52
0:53:55
with respect to the Ukraine and Russia situation,
766
0:53:56
0:54:04
I would really like to engage Glenn Dyson and the Duran on the issues there,
767
0:54:04
0:54:10
focusing on the voting reform issue that is relevant for Australia.
768
0:54:10
0:54:12
You have a lousy voting system.
769
0:54:12
0:54:18
If you were to read Sir Michael Dummett's books on principles of electoral reform
770
0:54:18
0:54:21
put out by the Oxford University Press,
771
0:54:21
0:54:24
and it needs to be examined in Australia,
772
0:54:24
0:54:30
but it very much needs to be examined in terms of the United States and Great Britain.
773
0:54:30
0:54:35
I think we could have better governance with a more open political system
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0:54:35
0:54:38
to third parties and third party efforts.
775
0:54:39
0:54:40
I completely agree.
776
0:54:40
0:54:41
Can I just make one point, by the way,
777
0:54:41
0:54:46
which is of course the people who were strongest in advocating for the pandemic
778
0:54:46
0:54:50
are the same people who are promoting the war in Ukraine.
779
0:54:50
0:54:51
It's exactly the same people.
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0:54:51
0:54:57
And they're also very, very busy suppressing anybody in both cases who disagree with them.
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0:54:57
0:54:59
And of course it's the totalitarianism.
782
0:54:59
0:55:00
Both exactly.
783
0:55:01
0:55:05
I mean, it's the same people.
784
0:55:05
0:55:07
You can identify them exactly.
785
0:55:07
0:55:13
And obviously opening up the political system is essential.
786
0:55:13
0:55:18
And free speech, these things all go together.
787
0:55:18
0:55:21
Legal reform, all of these things go together.
788
0:55:21
0:55:23
Everything is connected to everything else.
789
0:55:23
0:55:27
And by the way, we will, you know, of this,
790
0:55:28
0:55:33
if you've been listening to me many, if you've been listening to me in programs,
791
0:55:33
0:55:39
one thing I'm absolutely believe in, councils of despair are bad councils.
792
0:55:40
0:55:43
If we fight this, we will win.
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0:55:48
We will win because we are right and they are wrong.
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And you can only go on being wrong for so much time before it eventually catches up with you.
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Well, I appreciate this.
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0:56:06
And Alexander Mercurius, I'm going to try to get hold of Glenn Dyson.
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0:56:13
And I will copy the Durant in on that exchange and see if I can engage both of you in the
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context of both of these debacles because they in the United States,
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I think in Great Britain, it's true.
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0:56:23
They've been a bipartisan debacle.
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0:56:25
The Uniparty, as people speak of.
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0:56:33
And I don't believe we can improve governance in this country or your country
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0:56:35
unless we really tackle that.
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0:56:38
It's necessary but not sufficient.
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And thanks for giving me some time.
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0:56:50
Alexander Mercurius, I've used you way in the past to raise some issues about the New York Times
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0:56:51
coverage of Russia.
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0:56:55
And I just really appreciate all the insights that you've had.
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0:56:58
It's been absolutely invaluable.
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0:56:59
Well, thank you very much.
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And can I just say I will discuss this with Glenn, who's a good friend,
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0:57:07
and I will let you know that you're going to get in touch with him.
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0:57:09
So absolutely, he will be prepared for you.
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0:57:11
Thank you.
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0:57:19
Charles, you're muted.
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Sorry, you're muted.
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0:57:25
Now, I'm unmuted.
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I just want to say thank you.
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0:57:28
And I'm through.
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But I very much appreciate this.
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Thank you.
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0:57:33
Charles is muted, though.
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0:57:35
Yes, I am.
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0:57:36
Thank you, John.
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0:57:39
I was well done, Alexander, for deserving the praise.
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0:57:43
And Alexander, the question that's put in, and John may know, because I don't know,
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0:57:47
and Sebastian may know, but you can tell us, Alexander,
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0:57:49
where did the word Durand come from?
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0:57:51
And somebody has said, what is the Durand?
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0:57:53
You know, this is a question I'm always asked.
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0:57:54
I don't actually know the answer.
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0:57:58
It was brought out, you know, there's two of us, there's Alex and myself.
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0:58:01
So Alex set it up first.
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0:58:03
He came up with his name.
837
0:58:04
0:58:09
And I've asked him many, many times, where did the name come from?
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0:58:09
0:58:13
And he has a twinkle in his eye, and he never tells me.
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0:58:15
So it's his little secret.
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0:58:15
0:58:17
So I don't actually know.
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0:58:17
0:58:22
What I do know is that he has hinted that it is some kind of Latin provenance.
842
0:58:22
0:58:26
I used to know a little Latin, and I'm not really able to see it myself.
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0:58:26
0:58:33
But he says that, you know, Durand has an element of hardness and integrity about it
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0:58:37
as endurable and all of that.
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0:58:40
I'm not sure I understand that myself, but that's what he said.
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0:58:44
So I'm afraid that's one question I actually cannot answer.
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0:58:53
And I will share before we go to Winston, who's a psychiatrist from Canada,
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0:58:56
0:59:02
my favorite Latin maxim that I find applicable in many situations is Reis ipsilocata.
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0:59:03
0:59:08
And it's a wonderful legal maxim, which means the facts speak for themselves.
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0:59:09
0:59:10
And don't listen to what people say.
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0:59:14
Look at the facts because they speak for themselves.
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0:59:14
0:59:17
Or as the Bible says, by their fruits, shall you know them.
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0:59:23
Winston, Yevgeny, who's on the call, he has presented to us.
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0:59:23
0:59:25
He was born in the Soviet Union from memory.
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0:59:25
0:59:30
He might know the derivation of the etymology of the Durand.
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0:59:32
Do you, Yevgeny?
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0:59:33
0:59:42
There could be several explanations, but for me, the first, the most straightforward will be with
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0:59:46
the Latin root dura meaning like hard.
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0:59:47
0:59:51
So it's in Latin in some Romanian languages.
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0:59:58
I think even if I don't recall, one of the heroes of the, either it's Shanson de Rolan or
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1:00:05
Shanson de Rolan or Canto Seed, the sword was called like durandal.
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1:00:05
1:00:08
It means like the sword is like very hard.
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1:00:14
And from this Latin word, by the way, there is a borrowing in the Russian language of the word
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1:00:18
durak, which means like fully, fool, a fool.
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1:00:23
It means like the person who is not flexible, who is like hard.
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1:00:27
So we borrowed the word, but with a different meaning.
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1:00:31
So I think it's with this, but there could be other explanations.
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1:00:32
I love it.
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1:00:33
Thank you, Yevgeny.
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1:00:33
1:00:35
So hard, then, Yevgeny.
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1:00:37
A hard fool.
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1:00:38
1:00:42
A fool who's stuck hard to his principles, Stephen.
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1:00:45
Well, no, I was thinking of a hard man, actually.
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1:00:45
So tough.
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1:00:47
Yeah, tough.
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1:00:55
From the point of view of people, when we do something which is not in the main line,
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1:00:57
not in the mainstream, so we're fools.
881
1:00:57
1:01:02
What I was doing with the whistle blowing and what we're speaking in critical seikachi,
882
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1:01:04
people thinking that we're fools.
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1:01:05
1:01:09
So Alexander, you need to get in contact with Yevgeny.
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1:01:13
He gave a wonderful presentation to his lasting three and a half hours talking about
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1:01:15
the 100 best books in the world.
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1:01:18
And he really had researched them.
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1:01:20
He's from the Soviet Union.
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1:01:22
I would love to.
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I remember he was on the discussion that I had before, and I would absolutely love to
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1:01:29
speak to Yevgeny, by the way.
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1:01:33
So if you want to, email me, one of you is enough.
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1:01:34
1:01:36
If you both miss it, then I can't.
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1:01:37
I won't remember.
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1:01:39
But I'll put you in contact with each other.
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1:01:40
Absolutely.
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1:01:40
1:01:41
Maybe you can do it.
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1:01:42
Thank you.
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All right.
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1:01:43
1:01:44
Winston.
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1:01:46
Winston.
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1:01:52
I want to ask a question.
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1:01:57
I don't know if this is the correct forum, but I'm going to ask it anyway.
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1:01:57
1:01:58
It's a legal question.
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1:01:59
1:02:03
I first became aware of this video from Australia.
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1:02:07
I subsequently lost because my phone died.
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1:02:14
And then I became, I heard about it again, two letters from supposedly from judges in
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1:02:18
the United States, and more recently, Jordan Maxwell.
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1:02:24
And it concerns this issue of a corporation.
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1:02:28
When one goes to court, one is regarded as a corporation.
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1:02:35
I have a cousin who is a lawyer on the British Constitution, and she hadn't heard from it
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1:02:38
and said, must be something unique elsewhere.
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1:02:38
But I don't know.
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1:02:39
But I'll ask.
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1:02:44
My understanding is that when people are taken into court, not infrequently, for some reason,
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they are regarded as a corporation.
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1:02:50
And Maxwell goes into this thing and he talks about, you know,
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1:02:56
you're not supposed to touch the gate to go to the bench, and if you do that, it's a floodgate.
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1:02:58
What is that about?
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1:02:59
Is that accurate?
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1:03:03
Well, it's not something I'm familiar with in English law.
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1:03:05
I mean, English law is the other way around.
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1:03:09
I mean, corporations are supposed to be personalities.
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1:03:17
So they have, they go into law, into courts, in a kind of way as persons.
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1:03:25
So I'm not sure where the idea of individuals, people becoming corporations comes from.
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1:03:32
That is absolutely not part of the legal tradition that I'm aware of, at least in England.
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1:03:37
And I have to say, I find that rather disturbing concept altogether.
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1:03:45
I mean, what does a corporation exactly mean in terms of being in a courtroom?
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1:03:49
I'm not quite sure what is implied by this.
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1:03:54
Perhaps you can explain because I'm not sure about it.
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1:04:00
In England, as I said, in the English tradition, and by the way, the Roman tradition,
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1:04:04
was that law applies to persons.
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1:04:08
And persons, first and foremost, are human beings.
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1:04:15
Well, I can't comment other than, Regis, what I've been
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1:04:22
learning, my understanding, based on my own thinking about this, is,
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1:04:26
would this have anything to do with one's birth certificate?
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1:04:30
Ah, now that's another question.
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1:04:33
Because of course, birth certificates are an enormously interesting issue.
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1:04:40
In fact, I once read a study on the question of birth certificates,
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1:04:46
because of course, birth certificates actually are the first legal documents that are created
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1:04:52
about you and that exist in various countries.
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1:04:57
And of course, if you don't have a birth certificate, and there are countries in the world
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1:05:03
which still do not provide birth certificates, or there are places where there are war zones,
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1:05:09
and birth certificates are not provided because they cannot be,
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1:05:15
then you are not a person in the eyes of many states, and then you lose your rights.
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1:05:27
So, the birth certificate becomes, for a human individual, the first document
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1:05:33
which creates you, in effect, as far as the law and the states are concerned.
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1:05:40
And then, as far as the law and the states are concerned, as an individual, you are yourself,
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1:05:48
basically, the various legal documents that develop like a tree from the root,
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1:05:50
which is your birth certificate.
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1:05:56
So, you go to school, you get your school certificates there, you get your medical things there,
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1:06:02
and they all build up, and that, for a state, for a bureaucracy, for a legal system,
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1:06:05
makes you a personality, a human being.
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1:06:11
So, I wonder whether that's what you're alluding to.
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1:06:16
And by the way, this particular article that I read was all about trying to give people from
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1:06:24
war zones birth certificates or some kind of certificate in order to give them personality.
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1:06:24
1:06:29
If you think about it, in itself, it's quite a sinister concept, actually,
961
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1:06:31
but it's absolutely something that does exist.
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1:06:33
Thank you very much.
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1:06:35
Thank you.
964
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1:06:37
And Alexander, another whole question.
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1:06:37
1:06:42
Dolores Kale has presented to us twice on this topic of the whole question of
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1:06:48
the corporatization of people, but we won't go there now because
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1:06:53
I learned nothing about it at law school, and there's a lot of learning going on,
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1:06:57
and the word person, allegedly, does not apply to a man or a woman.
969
1:06:57
1:07:00
So, there's another lovely question.
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1:07:01
1:07:07
But thank you, Winston, for raising it because it's worthy of study, and many people have used
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1:07:12
those strategies to have cases brought by the state thrown out.
972
1:07:12
1:07:14
So, anyway.
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1:07:16
Sebastian.
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1:07:18
1:07:21
Yeah. Good evening, Alexander.
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1:07:26
And I actually have a question I'd like to follow back on history
976
1:07:26
1:07:32
when it comes to the Nuremberg Codex, because we understand through historical documents
977
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1:07:36
that the Nuremberg Codex never was codified in any legal system,
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1:07:39
and it was only used as a guideline.
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1:07:45
However, I do not know, and I'd like to ask, has it been since been adapted or
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1:07:52
put into any legal system in the known world to date?
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1:07:52
1:07:57
And following up on the Duran later on, I will try and give you a little insight into that.
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1:08:07
My understanding of Nuremberg is that it is precedent by which makes it operative law,
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1:08:12
or at least that is how it was originally conceived when it happened.
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1:08:12
1:08:19
So, all human rights, war crimes law, all of that kind of law is supposed to
985
1:08:20
1:08:28
basic to be based on the Nuremberg decisions and the Nuremberg principles.
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1:08:28
1:08:35
But the point that's been made already by Stephen is that, in fact, as we codify,
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1:08:39
as we make laws, we are actually moving away from Nuremberg.
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1:08:41
And I think that is exactly right.
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1:08:48
I think that is exactly what is happening, because we're not citing any longer the actual
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1:08:56
statements, the actual judgments that were made in Nuremberg, and also the words of the prosecutors
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1:09:05
there. What we're citing now are the laws that supposedly derive from Nuremberg.
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1:09:10
And then, of course, what happens? And this is where we get the problem of more and more law.
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1:09:17
So you get Nuremberg, then you get the law, then you get more laws, which develop,
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1:09:23
supposedly, the laws that derive from Nuremberg, then you get decisions,
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1:09:27
and you move steadily further and further away.
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1:09:34
Okay, thanks. And as I said, I'll try and explain what the word durand, where it comes from,
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1:09:36
but there is a secret to it, as you know.
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1:09:38
1:09:39
All right.
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1:09:39
1:09:42
Alexander, that's the best answer I've ever heard on that from you.
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1:09:49
And you haven't got the proof, but you have a hypothesis, you believe this is true,
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1:09:54
you trust your intuition, that's what I try to do. It's extremely reliable, but of course,
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1:09:57
we're encouraged to believe that our intuition is no good.
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1:10:04
Well, Stephen, one thing I have to say is this, which is that I have, throughout my life,
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1:10:15
I have seen laws passed, which supposedly, re-legal, re-criminalize, or make illegal,
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1:10:15
1:10:25
what is already criminal and illegal. And this goes on all the time. It's a constant churn of this.
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1:10:33
And it makes this incredibly complicated. Even a small thing, just very, very small thing,
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1:10:33
1:10:41
which I was personally involved in. Way back in the 1990s, the High Court, in its wisdom,
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1:10:47
decided that it would reform its own rules, because the rules of the High Court had become
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1:10:55
so complicated. And by the way, the rules are legal, they are law, they derive from legislation.
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1:11:02
So the rules had become so complicated that they had to be simplified. So we simplified them
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1:11:10
by basically re-wording them. And they ended up becoming more complicated. And the process,
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1:11:18
which was supposed to be made simpler, became more complicated still. And we established what was
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1:11:27
called the overriding objective, which was to end cases as quickly as possible and in the simplest
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1:11:34
way. Nobody, nobody who has experience of the courts today would think that that is true.
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1:11:34
1:11:42
In fact, it is less true now than it was when we did it. And this is true right across the legal
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1:11:48
system. And it is particularly bad, by the way, in criminal law. I mean, another thing that's
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1:11:53
happened in criminal law, just to say, we're talking about rights and taking away jury rights,
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1:12:01
the abolition of the principle of double jeopardy, the whole idea that if you are prosecuted,
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1:12:10
and then you are acquitted by a jury, in fact, you cannot be prosecuted for that same crime again.
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1:12:16
It's basically been abolished. And it was all done on the basis of the Stephen Lawrence case,
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1:12:23
Lawrence case, because Mrs. Lawrence very understandably very upset about the terrible
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1:12:29
murder of her son. So she campaigned against the people who she said were the murderers,
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1:12:34
who probably were the murderers, by the way. And eventually, she brought one prosecution,
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1:12:39
they were acquitted because the evidence wasn't there. And then they changed the law so that they
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1:12:46
could be prosecuted all over again. And by doing that, of course, double jeopardy has gone. So it
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1:12:55
means that if the state wants to get you now, they can bring the same case against you again,
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1:13:04
and again, and again, and again, which is precisely what the original principle of double jeopardy was
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1:13:10
intended to prevent. And of course, when it started, when it started, they said, well, you know,
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1:13:15
this is only going to be applied in very few cases. And there's all going to be all kinds of
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1:13:22
conditions. And we're not supposed and of course, what happens steadily, that's eroded away,
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1:13:28
and it becomes easier and easier for the prosecutors to do that. And again, you start to see how the
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1:13:34
principle the fundamental principle of double jeopardy has basically now disappeared. So
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1:13:39
this goes on in the law all the time.
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1:13:39
1:13:42
All right.
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1:13:42
1:13:44
So why meddling with the law allowed then, Alexander?
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1:13:46
Hang on, Stephen, we got Lars.
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1:13:47
We can see why, of course.
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1:13:57
Yes, thank you, Alexander. I watched you and your colleague, more or less every day, so I'm up to
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1:14:05
date with what you are talking about. But there's one very important thing when I try to discuss
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1:14:12
with my neighbors and friends and people in Sweden about how did the war begin.
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1:14:21
And there is one piece of evidence that Professor Ivan Kachanovsky has written about, and he is
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1:14:29
citing the Ukrainian book, which is very important. It is a dialogue between the two leaders
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1:14:38
of the right sector, Svabida, who were in meeting before the Maidan or during the Maidan, actually,
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1:14:48
and was instructed by a Western representative. I think it was Victoria Nuland, that you have to
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1:15:01
kill 100 people before we can support the minority and basically throw out the president.
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1:15:08
So they required 100 dead. Now, they managed to kill, I think it was 72
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1:15:20
people in the Maidan and 17 policemen. And in order to get to the heavenly hundreds, as the victims
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are called, they had to add far accident victims, people who committed suicide, etc., to make the
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heavenly hundreds. If people understood, first of all, I assume this is correct, because the
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Svabida people have said this to Ukrainian journalists. And if people understand that
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Victoria Nuland or whoever the Western representative was that required 100 dead at Maidan,
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they should understand that the Americans instigated this whole thing in a much more
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devious way than we typically know. Have you heard about this? Have you discussed it?
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I have heard about it. I should say I've met Ivan Kachanovsky. So I don't know him well. I've met
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him briefly. I've read his books. I'm very familiar with his work. I have a very, very high regard for
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him as a scholar. I have little doubt that he's right about this. And there is no doubt at all
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that there was an awful lot more going on in 2014 and before, and by the way, after than we know.
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And what I talk about on my channels every day is the tip of the iceberg. It's what we see,
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what I could see. What is going on under the surface and what was going on under the surface
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during the events of 2014. It requires a lot of research and a lot of investigation to find out.
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1:17:21
Ivan Kachanovsky is doing some of it, but it will take many, many, many years before we build up a
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whole picture. Now, one day we will know, I mean, we always will, whether we will find it all out in
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my lifetime or our lifetimes. That is another question. I mean, what happens in history
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quite often is that researchers go back and they look through things. And it may be that in 50,
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100 years time, 50 years time more likely, we will start to get closer to the truth. But I've always
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felt about 2014 that something very sinister and very bad was happening. And I've never had any
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doubt myself that not just the American intelligence agencies, but several, many others were also all
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involved in what was taking place then. All right, Lars Dunn, he's gone.
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Okay. They've attacked me. He asked too good a question, Alexander. Marv from Oregon now.
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1:18:37
Hey, I love your podcast. You guys are kind of high brow podcasters, which I enjoy. I think I
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asked you this before. You know, if you run into a British accent, you're going to run into a
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Russian folk. We had that Michael on Sunday and there's a guy that sees a Chinaman behind every
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1:19:00
bush. And he, you know, I noticed that there was very little mention of communism during his talk
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1:19:09
about the Chinese threat. Anyway, how do you explain this antipathy that the British have
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for the Russians? I've heard it explained that it comes from the Crimea war and the collision of
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these two empires. But how could that be going on 10 generations later? It just, how do you explain
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that British antipathy toward the Ruskies? You know, there is no single satisfactory
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explanation for it. And I agree that does exist. And I'm not sure myself why it is there. So
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any explanation I give you is always also going to be very, very incomplete.
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I think one of the great problems is that the British really don't know Russia very well.
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And for a very long time, they have constructed a picture of Russia, which is very far removed from
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the reality. And what they're often fighting a lot of the time is this image of Russia that has been
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constructed through the 19th century, through the 20th century, which had points of contact with
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reality. Stalin was real. I mean, you know, there was a person called Stalin, there was a terror,
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there was repression, all of those things. So I think the British have never fully escaped it.
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I think that on the issue of Ukraine itself, of this particular crisis, I think there is something
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else which is not specific actually, to Russia, which explains why the British, why some people
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in the British political system are so committed or involved in it. And that is that, again,
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it's the events of the 1930s, not quite in the sense that people understand, but the way to
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understand what happened in the late 19... One way to understand what happened in the late 1930s
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and early 1940s from a British perspective is that that was the last time that Britain acted
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as a fully independent great power, when people like Chamberlain and Churchill and all of the others
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were acting exclusively from British perspectives based on British interests. There was no Western
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alliance, there was no alliance with the United States, Britain was still one of the great powers
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in the world. And that period, because it was the last time when that was true, remains for that
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reason, something that many British politicians in particular want to escape back to. So there's
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this temptation to play Churchill, to present yourself as holding back Russian aggression,
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and all of these things, because in effect you're reflexively looking back to that one
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last period of time when Britain was relevant as a great power. I think Britain is relevant in many
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ways, by the way. I think Britain has much ability to influence things, and I don't think that is the
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right way to do it. But having spoken to politicians, Kwazi Kwateng for example, is a friend of mine,
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just to say so. I do know some British politicians. I think that that aspect of it gets underestimated.
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1:22:59
Very good, thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Marvin. Alexander, I point out that Marvin is over 80,
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lives in Oregon, has got an amazing collection of books and what he's read. Sometimes he gives
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1:23:10
us a clue as to some of the books that he's reading. Anyway, Marvin, good question.
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I don't judge questions. Well done. Mark Dyer now from the UK. What book have you got there, Marvin,
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1:23:24
for us? There you are, Solving 9-11, written by Christopher Berlin, Anne Berlin's descendant.
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1:23:37
There you are. Good job, Marvin. Mark. Yes, Alexander, have you been following at all
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Mark Sexton or Ian Clayton with the ethical approach on Twitter? No, I have not. There are
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1:23:54
only so many hours in the day. I cannot read everything. I wish there were lots of things
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1:24:00
that I would like to read. Already from the very title, that sounds very interesting. Tell me more.
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1:24:13
Right. Mark Sexton is a retired police officer. In 2021, he submitted a crime against the people
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1:24:23
for the COVID vaccines. His criminal investigation was closed. It wasn't
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1:24:34
investigated. Through a freedom of information, he and the group have actually found out that
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1:24:51
they had Operation TALA, T-A-L-L-A, and the Spears Directive of January 25, 2022 explicitly ordered
1118
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1:24:58
police staff not to accept or record vaccine-related crime reports. This is established
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1:25:05
as a fact through documentation held by the Police Scotland obtained under a freedom of information
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1:25:16
and corroborated by multiple national police chief councils. They have released this information
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1:25:25
on Twitter three days ago and they have been releasing it every day on Twitter.
1122
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1:25:36
Very interestingly, no mainstream media has picked this up. He has over 400 cases
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1:25:41
that have actually been submitted and they have just gone into the ether.
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1:25:48
That is extremely interesting. I think you mean criminal complaints, Mark. Yes.
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They are, yes. So there is an effective directive that came down from somewhere.
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It would be very interesting to know from where exactly that the police were instructed not to
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1:26:12
investigate complaints relating to crime. Which again, Jane Connor and Detective Superintendent
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1:26:22
Tor Garnett, right? They also have this where they have actually gone to another police station to
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1:26:31
make a formal criminal complaint and they were told that they were not allowed to accept the
1130
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1:26:40
criminal complaint. And it is actually, they recorded it and it is out there. So my question
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1:26:48
is, is there any hope, let's say, that this will in fact surface on the mainstream media and that
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1:26:56
people will start to understand that these deaths that weren't reported properly, that the yellow
1133
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1:27:04
card system wasn't reported properly and that if it had been put into the public domain, the public
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1:27:09
would have not continued to take these toxic substances and they would have been saved.
1135
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1:27:18
Well, there is hope that it will appear in the media, but hope is not the same thing
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1:27:27
as expectation. I don't expect it to happen anytime soon. One day, this is absolute certainty,
1137
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1:27:35
of this I have no doubt, one day all of this will come out. All of this will come out. There will be
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1:27:46
a massive investigation. All of this will be exposed because it has to be. And what has to happen
1139
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1:27:54
eventually does happen. But I'm not going to say that I know when and it will not happen until there
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1:28:01
are fundamental changes in our political system. But then all of this work that people like that
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1:28:06
are doing, then it will become very relevant and then we'll be able to go in and we can see
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1:28:12
exactly how these things happen and how they were done and then hopefully we will learn the right
1143
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1:28:20
lessons from them. Thank you. So, Alexander, I will share with, I'll email to you what Mark Sexton has
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1:28:26
sent to me for circulation and I'll also put some links into the chat here from Mark Sexton's work.
1145
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1:28:31
Mark Dyer, you can put that in there because we want to shine a light on these directives
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1:28:38
and the instruction to the police and the police believe complying with them are breaches of their
1147
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1:28:46
oaths of office. So, this is exactly what I was thinking. I might want, I'm going to try and get
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1:28:50
in touch with him by the way. Yeah, I'll send it through. So, I can put you in touch with Mark
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1:28:56
Sexton if you like, Alexander. Yes. If you don't know how to get in. No, I don't. No. If you email
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1:29:01
me, I can put you in touch with him. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So, Eugenie and Mark Sexton,
1151
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1:29:06
you can tell me about how to get in touch with both. Good memory. Very good. All right, Geoffrey.
1152
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1:29:14
Can I just ask Mark, Charles, Mark, were they Freedom of Information Act requests or were they
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1:29:20
subject access requests? So, the subject access requests relate to the individual and if they
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1:29:25
haven't put a subject access request in, Mark Sexton for example, I'm sure the police were
1155
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1:29:36
sending emails to each other about Mark Sexton. Right. In the documentation that I have,
1156
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1:29:43
it's a Freedom of Information is what Mark and Ian have actually stated in their document,
1157
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1:29:47
which I have in front of me. Yeah, so Mark may not know about, Mark Sexton may not know about
1158
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1:29:52
subject access requests. So, I'll have to tell him because I know that from my whistleblowing case.
1159
1:29:53
1:29:59
All right. No, I'm pretty sure he'll know that. I'm not sure he will. A lot of people don't know
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about it. All right. Geoffrey, back, back, Dalton. Who's here for the first time? Welcome, Geoffrey.
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1:30:07
Unmute yourself.
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1:30:14
Geoffrey, unmute. There he is. Beautiful.
1163
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1:30:24
So, all the problems you meant, so all the problems have been mentioned.
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1:30:33
How do we go from, how do we fix them going forward from here on out? You know what I mean?
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1:30:40
Well, each and every one of us is doing quite a lot and we're doing an awful lot. I mean,
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1:30:49
I'm going on YouTube. There is this group here. There are points being made all of the time.
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1:30:55
If you think this doesn't matter, let me tell you that it absolutely does. It makes a difference.
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1:31:04
I worked in the belly of the beast, if you like. I was an advisor to the Minister of Justice.
1169
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1:31:12
I was an advisor in Greece to the Minister of Culture. I've seen how eventually things start
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1:31:19
to gain traction and people start to think and they start to talk and they start to listen.
1171
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1:31:30
What we are doing, what is being done in this forum is important and people should not assume otherwise.
1172
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1:31:40
So, that's your motto of saying how we fix the world, right?
1173
1:31:41
1:31:47
We each argue with the particular points that we know. So, people who are doctors
1174
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1:31:56
talk about breaches of medical ethics. They talk about the enormous arbitrary and coercive actions
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1:32:02
that have taken place against doctors. People who have had a background as lawyers talk about
1176
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1:32:09
the corruption of law and the way that law has ceased to be true law anymore. People who work
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1:32:15
in the political system or on the fringes of the political system talk out and speak out about
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1:32:22
the egregious mistakes that are being made there every day and all of the time. People like
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1:32:29
Lord Robert Skidelsky, for example, in the House of Lords speaks out every day whenever he can
1180
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1:32:36
about the fact that foreign policy is being conducted badly. And of course, the other side,
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1:32:41
if I could call them that, are trying to silence and suppress everybody all the time. But the very
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fact that they're doing that shows that they are insecure and afraid and that is actually a cause
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1:33:01
of hope. There has never been a time, certainly in Britain, in modern British history that I'm
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1:33:13
aware of when the power, if you can call it that, has felt so vulnerable and so uncertain of its
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1:33:21
control of the country, the population, the spirit of the people.
1186
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1:33:23
Thank you.
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1:33:27
How are the people that always, that triumphs over all?
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1:33:31
Ultimately it does. Of that I have no doubt.
1189
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1:33:41
Well, except Jeffrey. For 32 years I've taught a core principle of the work of Buckminster
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1:33:46
Fuller, an American, who said, as human beings, our reward for solving problems is not peace and
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1:33:52
happiness. Our reward for solving problems is bigger problems. If you look at your own life,
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1:33:52
1:33:57
you can test whether that's true or not. That certainly is in my case. And as we grow older,
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1:34:02
our problems get bigger. And if you go from year 11 to year 12 in school, your problems get bigger.
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1:34:06
And you go to university, your problems get bigger. Then you start a job, your problems get bigger.
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1:34:11
And if they didn't get bigger, we would all die of boredom. So embrace your problems, everybody,
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1:34:16
because you deserve them. Absolutely. That is how we grow. That is how we grow.
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1:34:25
Without problems, we would turn into big fat slobs doing nothing. Like Jabba the Hutt in Star Wars.
1198
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1:34:30
I think there's a lovely message to us. You know, love your problems. But Jeffrey, if you have other
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questions, put them up. Charles, can I just, Charles, can I make this point? So, um, Jeffrey,
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I think that's an important question. But I think that you need to understand that even though this
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may seem useless to you, it's how human beings solve big problems. So five years ago, I had,
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1:34:54
you know, I knew what I knew. And I just thought it was absolutely crazy. I couldn't make sense of
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1:35:00
my whole world was kind of attacked from every angle, as far as I could see. And I have never
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1:35:07
felt more alone in the sense that even my friends didn't know what was going on. They didn't have a
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1:35:13
even a basic understanding. And so I, and then I thought, well, how, what do I do about it? So I
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1:35:19
formed this group. And so I've done it previously as well. So I had a kind of model. But I didn't
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1:35:24
really think about that, because I knew that I had to get to the truth in order to solve the problem,
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1:35:31
or as near as possible as human beings can get to the truth. And how do we do that? We work together
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1:35:39
with perceived allies who are not exactly agreeing with everything we say, but we work together with
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1:35:45
them to get to the truth as far as that's possible for mere human beings. And that's the best. So
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1:35:45
1:35:52
empires do fall. Nobody knows why they've fallen when they have fallen. Some historians might say,
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1:35:57
oh, they fell. It fell because of this and that, you know, but it's simplified. But it's the people
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1:36:04
understanding and getting closer to the truth through groups like this. But I think this is a
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1:36:10
rather special group, but I've understood that only belatedly. They understand and then they
1215
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1:36:19
become dangerous with the truth. The truth is very, very powerful. It has a mind of its own,
1216
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1:36:26
essentially, which takes over. And the human beings who got to the truth or near to the truth,
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1:36:32
they don't really play a part in what happens afterwards. Other people play. Do you see? So
1218
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1:36:41
it's very difficult to, I don't know whether Alexander would... I see this happen myself
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1:36:48
sometimes when the truth, what do they say? When the truth is out, it can't be bad, basically bottle
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1:36:54
back in again. Somebody else put it, I think, very well, that, you know, in a kingdom of lies,
1221
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1:37:01
telling the truth is a revolutionary act. All of these. Yeah, yes, I think that. But it's true.
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1:37:09
Absolutely. There's a wonderful quote at the beginning of the Savile Inquiry, which I'll try
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1:37:13
to find in the remainder and then read it out to you. It's absolutely brilliant. It was actually
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1:37:20
the cheap lawyer or whatever they called it of the Savile Inquiry, which if you remember,
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1:37:27
Alexander, actually came to a reasonable truth in the end. And essentially the British state was
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1:37:33
found guilty of murdering, I can't remember how many, 13 was it in Northern Ireland? And it was.
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1:37:38
So, but there's a wonderful quote about the truth at the beginning. I'll try and find it
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1:37:44
and read it to you. It's just brilliant. And I've always remembered it. It's wonderful. The truth
1229
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1:37:50
has a mind of its own. I can't remember it. I won't mess it up. Yes. All right. Well, before we go,
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1:37:55
before we go back to Lars, I'll read Montaigne's quote, which is when the lie takes the elevator,
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1:38:03
the truth takes the stairs and one step at a time sooner or later arrives. So.
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1:38:11
Yes. All right, Lars and then Tom, and we've got another UI. We've got for two and a half
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1:38:15
hours, Alexander, UIK, because we've got lots of questions. Beautiful. Okay, Lars, you're next.
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Yes. I was actually thrown out of the system while you were answering my question.
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1:38:30
Yes, that's right. I can see that on the video in the interest of time. But I put four slides
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1:38:36
into the chat, which talks about the topic I asked you about this Ukrainian admission
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1:38:45
that they were asked by Western politicians to shoot hundred people. So the slides are there with
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1:38:50
the links to the to the Ukrainian book. I have the Ukrainian book. I can send it to you if you're
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1:38:56
interested. But it's a very, very important piece of evidence. I would also like to just throw my
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1:39:06
overweight behind Christopher Bolin's Solving 9-11. It's a fantastic book. And he has become
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1:39:11
a good friend of mine because I was very interested in that. He lives in Sweden now.
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1:39:18
He had to escape the US. And it's a very, very important, probably the most important book I've
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read. Interesting. Good. I can send you that book as well. If you put your.
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1:39:30
I yes. Well, let me know what the title is and I'll track it down. Yeah.
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1:39:39
Thank you. Thank you, Lars. Tom. Tom in Wisconsin, Alexander. I'm sure you know from him from last
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time. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And I just want to let you know, I get my feed from you through
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1:39:52
RSS, which is kind of a geeky way to do it. And I just hear the audio. So I do hear you guys three or
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1:39:59
four times a week. And it's just great. So I was really moved this morning. I have a playlist and
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Anna. Anna de Boussourette was talking. It was Doc Malek and it was just so sweet because I guess
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this is the anniversary of her death. She's a former barrister and she believes that young
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children should be taught the law and know about informed consent and in the Magna Carta. And
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I don't know if she said the Magna Carta was fairly long, but the pertinent points could
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fit in your pocket. And she was in the hospital. She was next in the hospital room to a woman who
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was also on a drip. You know, she was getting this cancer treatment and that person was very proud of
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themselves for being involved in the jab. And she was actually in charge of the informed consent
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process. So on her death, Anna was asked what she would say on her deathbed by Doc Malek. And he said,
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or she said something to the effect, like, be polite. And so she was polite, you know, in other
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words, try to make people even that you disagree with comfortable. And she politely enlightened the,
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you know, person next to her about what really was going on. But yeah, I just wanted to kind of
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honor that thing. She also, the Nuremberg, she encouraged us all to learn law, learn the Nuremberg
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about the Nuremberg trials and read them. And she had enumerated a list of about four things. I'm
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going to go on. I'll try to share them in the next chat. But with respect to the contemporary stuff,
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I heard Jim Fetzer bring this up and it's been brought up repeatedly, I guess, that Jag,
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military lawyers are basically saying that those boat, you know, Trump destroying the boats,
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that that's, those are actually murder. And I thought maybe you could comment on that. And I
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don't know if there's breaking news on that. And then as far as Russia, I looked at a, you know,
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I don't go to that map all the time, but I know you're always mentioning all these cities and so
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forth. My, the last time I looked at a map was about last week. And I still, I have this sense
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that Russia is advancing from the East, the, through those provinces that it pretty much took
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kind of a North South front. But I'm sure that's an oversimplification. So I like to hear
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really high level view of the geography with the names, I'm going to forget, but sort of East,
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West, Central, you know, what's going on in the air and what happened to the 10,000 men that were
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kettled. That was, that was fairly recent. I didn't hear what happened about that.
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And then am I correct that, I mean, I heard some casualty figures on the order of 600 per day.
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Yeah. So this is like the end, this is this the end game? Yeah. Just any,
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that said, answer whatever you feel comfortable with.
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Right. Well, first of all, that was an extremely moving story that you said at the beginning and
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thank you for sharing it. And that was a very, very moving story, if I could say. Now,
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let's go through the particular points that you make. Was it murder on the high seas to kill these
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people on the, in this boat? I would say absolutely. I mean, this is my view. I've spoken to international
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lawyers as well. There is no proof that these people were committing any crime. It's completely
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unclear to me what authority was being used to carry out this, these attacks in that kind of way.
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They were clearly not involved in the, the people who were killed were clearly not involved in any
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attacks against the U S Navy service. No conceivable argument of self-defense. And this latest incident
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in which apparently a boat was blown up and then some people, there were some survivors and they
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were clinging on to wreckage and that they were killed all over, that they were killed then.
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Well, that seems to me absolutely horrific and utterly and completely wrong. I think that there
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is an overwhelming legal consensus, if I could say so, that this is, that this is a criminal,
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a criminal act. Now, of course we need to be always careful as we've seen about legal,
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illegal consensus, but this is one case when I absolutely share it. I think that this is very,
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very wrong and I think what it should be held, the people who are doing it should be held to account
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and maybe one day they will be. Now about education and legal education. Well, I think having
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an informed public is an essential thing and essential if rights are to be protected and
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enforced because who ultimately can enforce rights, who ultimately can ensure that proper discussion
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and free debate takes place. It has to happen. If there is a will on the part of the public to make
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it happen, I believe generally there is, but of course it needs to be developed and cultivated.
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What was it? I think it was Voltaire once said, if the people begin to reason, all is lost and that's
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where, that's where that comes from. I mean, that's why you need to have, you need to have that
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degree of knowledge and understanding. So legal education, I think is a good thing and I think I
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would not call it legal education exactly, but an understanding of the rights that human beings
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in a in alienably come with. Remember what Jefferson said at the start of the declaration
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of independence that people are born equal and they have certain inalienable rights.
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That is the foundation ultimately of law and that is the understanding that people have
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and they need to know that as human beings they do have certain rights that are inalienable to
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themselves and that's a fundamental principle and one that needs to be developed and enlarged. I think
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too much time trying to educate people into the minutiae of law might go against that.
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Now about Ukraine and the conflict in Ukraine, I think you're getting this about right. There is
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actually a very complex and very difficult geography in the terms of some parts of this are
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quite muddy and hilly, the ground is soft and there's heavily forested and the cities are very
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dense, the urban spaces are very dense. I think that what's happening is that the Russians are
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coming towards the limit of that territory and yes you're right they're mostly advancing from the
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east towards the west to some extent they're also advancing from the south towards the north. If you
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look at it it's a kind of semi-circle basically. Now about the people who were kettled, a lot of
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them unfortunately are dead and the numbers are reducing and that is the nature of this war.
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It is a very very cruel war indeed and is this the beginning of the end? One always hesitates to
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say that but certainly one can say that there is a crisis on the battlefronts which is becoming
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increasingly difficult to see how the present government in Ukraine is going to get through
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and that is why by the way we have diplomacy at the moment that is why the United States is trying
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to find some way to persuade the Russians basically to stop. So you think
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Kellogg is really out and then flipping back Anna mentioned she made common law real to me. She said
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that it's all based on precedent but it's a real thing because there's all this talk about natural
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law and then I get confused. However in the chat people and Anna mentioned this today you know when
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I heard her she actually said that the Old Testament and the New Testament in England is
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actually referred to but the common law there's no question the common law is something that's
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part of the commonwealth countries right? Okay and I'm done I'll pass.
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The common law is absolutely a real thing and of course it's part of the superstructure of the legal
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system in England and it is a unique creation and it's an evolving one. About citing the Bible,
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yes it does happen actually but not very much anymore. It used to be much more common once upon
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the time. Thank you Tom. Alexander can I now turn your mind to centre of Europe?
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So whilst you're a Russia-Ukraine expert I'm I speak fluent Hungarian I'm president of the
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Australia-Hungary Chamber of Commerce and I'm interested in your perspective on the position
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I'm a fan of Viktor Orbán I'm a fan of what Hungary's position is in relation to the EU
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and Hungary and I mean and I look at central Europe I say to Australians
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Western Europe is lost to wokeism and Islam and Hungary is not Poland is not Slovenia is not
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Croatia is not and the future is in central Europe heading east not western Europe. Your thoughts
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please. Well I went to Hungary last year and I was hugely impressed and it was we went there
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we went there on invitation from the Hungarian government and we met many Hungarian officials
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I should say including people from Orbán's office we never met Orbán himself but I was extremely
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impressed by the ability and the intelligence and the groundedness of the people there. They made
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a very very painful contrast I have to say to the political class in London altogether so I
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came away very impressed by what I saw in Hungary. Now other places in Eastern Europe I know less
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well but I said central. Central Europe you're quite right. Thank you for the correction by the
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way correction accepted completely but I know I know sir I've not been I've been to the Czech
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Republic which is a bit more to the west if you like but I've not been to Slovakia I've not been
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to Poland but I think basically you are right certainly when I went to Hungary to Budapest
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it was very strange it reminded me very strongly of a Britain I used to remember.
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It was very orderly very law abiding very efficient very honest people there was the levels of private
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and public honesty were extremely high and it brought all that back it was like going back
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into a time machine and I don't mean this in a negative sense I mean I don't mean it's
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old-fashioned or outdated or anachronistic but it was like going to a Europe if you like
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that I used to remember and which still exists and which actually seems to work because anybody
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who lives in Britain today and I think this is true well it is it is true in France and it's
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increasingly true in Germany too can see that structures are breaking down it's happening all
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the time in Hungary they're not and Hungary interestingly for those of you who don't know
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has a deep spiritual foundation for its existence and it should not be in existence and it demonstrates
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the power of the human spirit because it was found it's the oldest nation in Europe 896
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it's never won a war in which it participated and there it is it still exists in the center
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of Europe so I have I have great the faith that that's that that's going to be a I look at the
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evidence again Rezeps a Locketer I look its existence in itself is evidence of that proposition
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I completely agree with that I mean I think Hungary is a is a is a great example actually
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I was all I could say again is I was hugely impressed by what I saw there
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now Jerry Brady has created crafted a term Hussarich which stands for an alliance between
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that Trump is facilitating it's he's put it in the chat you can read about and think about it
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of Hungary USA Russia Russia India China and Slovakia interestingly not Czech Republic but
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anyway it's a nice it's a nice summary of really what's going on and I observe that
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and I observe the criticism of Auburn by the EU and I have zero respect for the EU
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and right at the start today we talked about democracy and what a flawed system it is and
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we've had Andrew Bridgen on here three times and we'll go to Stephen for the final set of
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questions here but Andrew Bridgen he was shafted in the last election he has evidence that he was
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shafted in the last election and even when you've got a system that wants the powers that be say
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we're going to shaft you Andrew Bridgen democracy doesn't count so you know he's he's made it really
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very clear for us here of what's going on with him as a wonderful fighter for our rights
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I completely agree with that also I mean the anybody again who is has illusions about the
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integrity of our voting systems I'm afraid is being well I was going to say it I think they've
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been becoming increasingly naive it is impossible for everything else to become corrupted and the
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voting system not to be and it the two are incompatible with each other and if you followed
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the development of politics in Britain you could see this certainly in Hungary I did not get the
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impression that things were unstable in that kind of way or corrupted in that kind of way
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and by the way I completely agree with your points about Auburn and his battles with the EU we've
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often discussed them on the Juran and we've talked about them a great deal and I believe
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just for the record that Auburn has listened and has been happy with some of the things we've said
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just saying well done well I have I have personally met Peter Seartor the foreign minister
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on a couple of occasions and many ministers in his government and I personally know the
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president of the house of parliament and you know it's it's it is a it's a great case study
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and the last thing I'll say before Stephen comes on is that the Latin description of
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Hungary calls itself in Latin regnum marianum which means kingdom of Mary and St and King Stephen
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when he converted to Christianity Catholicism in fact he dedicated the country to Mary the mother
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of Jesus and 90 percent of Hungarians are Catholics and you look at that and go wow you know that's
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that's pretty amazing and the support of the family and indeed Bob Santa Maria in Australia
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from 1945 through to when he died in 1998 was a great warrior for policies and I wonder if the
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Juran can explore these policies of family supporting of policies that support the family
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and that's what Hungary has done and my understanding Poland as well whereas in Australia
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it's all about the individual and there's a whole bunch of policies from what's called the
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National Civic Council there was Bob Santa Maria working with the Irish archbishop Irish born arch
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bishop of Melbourne who really caused a massive uh impact in Australian politics but it was he
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drove that idea National Civic Council is still pushing for family friendly policies
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so everyone I'll bring it to your attention so what would those policies look like
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well indeed can I just say something I was when I was in Hungary I attended a meeting with I think
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was Balazs Orbán I don't know whether you know him at all but they were discussing the um family
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friendly policies of the Hungarian government and I remember thinking my goodness if only we had
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anything something like that here in Britain I speak now by the way as the a father of three
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children and um well um they were getting a degree of sympathy which I don't feel that my
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government extends to someone in the kind of situation which I mean just to say
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agree Stephen last set of questions for you my friend because Alexander totalitarianism
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wants to destroy the family that's the first aim of every um totalitarian system and um and we
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I think we agree that the climate change fraud um the Ukraine war and uh COVID at least and there
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are other examples um but um our Trojan horses for totalitarianism and Hungary it seems to me has
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suffered in you know more than most European countries so they've had to think about their
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survival their existence so they had the Hungarian uprising in 1956 I think it was
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and um and the Czech Republic Czechoslovakia in 1968 um and um that was not an uprising that was a
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what was that a revolution well it was an attempt by the um Czech government at the time the Czech
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Slovak government led by Alexander Dubček to try and reform communism from within a communism with
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a human face uh socialism with a human face as they called it but it was still perceived as an
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attack on the soviet the soviets crushed it I mean as the the system in the soviet union considered
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that completely unacceptable I mean uh the very the very slogan socialism with a human face was
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a red rack to to the bull I don't know whether you are familiar but there was there's a poem
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from that time which um I forgot his name but one of the great poets actually wrote about you know
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talking about the ogre doing things that are impossible for human beings to do and the ogre
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has one problem he cannot speak he cannot speak words and of course that was about the soviet
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union crushing the the Prague Spring the Prague Spring as it was called and I am very very angry
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with myself that I can't remember the name of this poet whom you will always all of you know as soon
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as I if it if it comes to me before we end this discussion so it seems to me Alexander if you're
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going through an existential threat yeah your survival then you need your family and it's
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obvious you need your family so that is as far as I can see is consistent with Hungary still promoting
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pro-family values just as in the United States where the southern United States have had lots
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of problems shall we say without going into detail and what do you find you find that the family is
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very important in the south as well of the United States completely different from California and
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New York State and all the rest of the woke and it um um uh northeastern states in the United States
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which are undermining well yes in my opinion a lot of this could be emanating from the Chinese
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Communist Party and people are so intent on making excuses for the Chinese Communist Party
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thinking that I'm criticizing for example the Chinese people when in fact I think that Chinese
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people are innocent except that they've been taken over by this totalitarian system and they
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haven't resisted as strongly as they should have perhaps but um essentially they're victims
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I'm not saying that the victim you know the victim narrative is great always but but um I think you
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could view the Chinese people as victims they had a fantastic civilization 5 000 years old
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and that was hijacked by and destroyed by the Chinese Communist Party with the when Mao Zedong
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came to power in 1949 as I understand it and then the great I mean I'm not a cynologist but I've
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always been hugely interested in China's civilization I by the way I collect uh copies not not originals
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of Chinese paintings and I've got lots of books I mean the whole point about Chinese civilization
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is that it was based on the family it was a very very heavily family centered civilization
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I mean Confucianism is all about the family and about reverence for the ancestors and the
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continuation of the thread of human existence through the family so um any system any system
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imposed on the Chinese people that is hostile to the family is fundamentally alien to them
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and to their culture just to say but but of course they were encouraged to to brief against other
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2:03:35
members of their families to the Chinese state the Chinese Communist Party that was encouraged in
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in China and that's absolutely outrageous so and that was also the system in the Soviet Union
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and in the Eastern Europe and so I think that these people who've suffered recently apart from
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China obviously they haven't got their act together at all I think it's a real shame what's happened
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to Hong Kong as well and Britain was instrumental in that and yeah they've been totally betrayed the
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Hong Kong people because they are now okay it might not be as bad as mainland China but it's
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still China and the intent is to get them to toe the line and their souls are you know the
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thing that made Hong Kong great is being destroyed as far as I can see so it seems to me that the
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problem with the United Kingdom and the United States is not all parts of the United States
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there's a big difference between the south and these woke states we were talking about
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and so I think that life has been too comfortable and people have been encouraged
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to think of themselves to be selfish to not look after their old people to not value their families
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to not value their friends and to rely more and more on their mobile phones their computers
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AI and the state but well indeed earned your point about people informing on each other
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and informing on members of their families and other people outside their families too
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well that's of course inherent in totalitarian systems and one of the most alarming things
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is that it's starting to happen increasingly in our in our societies too I mean people are now
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being encouraged to inform on each other which is deplorable I mean in in every respect I mean it
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should be outrageous I mean I by the way I mean just to say I mean these stories about what my
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Nigel Farage said when he was a child at school I mean frankly I mean who are the people who are
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coming out with these things now and why are we even paying them any attention and that's this
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sort of thing should not be publicized in that kind of way that is exactly the kind of thing you
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know that used to happen in Stalin's time by the way I'm sure that this is I mean I know that this
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is true that you know people said something you know that you expressed some views on some subject
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when you were at school or at university and somebody would note it down and then many years
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later it would be brought up and used against you oh this is terrible yes haven't they got any shame
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have they no conscience it's just pretty well well again if you're talking about totalitarian
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societies and structures they don't have conscience by definition sure I mean that's that's exactly
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what they leave behind they have no more if they had conscience that they wouldn't be they wouldn't
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be able to function as totalitarian societies incredible so anyway um I just wanted to ask you
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something that's really important possibly you meant there was an allusion to it earlier I think
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it was Tom in his long question there were several good questions um but um and I don't know how you
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remembered all all the questions um Alexander unless you've got a notepad there which you never
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look at no I don't I did have a right so you remembered all the questions and that's pretty
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amazing to me um so um I just want to ask you this so it's a serious question did the U.S.
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manufacture the Ukraine war to take down Europe well again this is this is this is actually a very
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good question which we cannot have a complete answer to because we don't know what exact debates
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and discussions took place in the United States and when we talk about the United States we obviously
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mean policy makers in the United States but we don't always know who exactly the policy makers
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are because one of the things that's become increasingly clear is that uh
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structures of power are no longer as clear as they used to be which by the way means that
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they're less accountable I I think there was probably some element of that I I suspect that
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certainly there was some worry that Europe parts of Europe and Russia Germany maybe who knows
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were becoming too close to each other that there was a worry that Europe was starting to there
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were risks that Europe might start to become increasingly assertive and independent and that
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Europe had to be brought further under control and to the extent that Europe was a potential economic
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rival it had to be brought down as well now it's the kind of thing I have to say this
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that people who engage in geopolitics a term by the way I detest I loathe expression geopolitics
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even though it's always lumped on me I've always said that you know I do I'm an expert in geopolitics
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but I loathe the expression but those who what should you say then?
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Alexander what should you say? Once upon a time the words international relations I thought
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sufficed but if you if you know about IR studies as they are conducted in modern universities
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you will know that they are an obscenity and that they have very little to do any longer with a
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genuine study of international relations so this horrible term geopolitics has taken its place
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but those who practice geopolitics who you know believe that nations are little counters little
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pieces that they can move across the great chessboard that they believe they're playing
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no doubt they're the people who came up with these terrible ideas about breaking down Europe
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and all of that all I will say is shame on them and what they are doing is going to be very bad
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ultimately for the United States itself because what the United States is doing is it's weakening
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those countries that were historically friendliest to itself and which form part of that same cultural
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world that it itself belongs to so if they and I think they as I said to some extent they did
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if they did this in order to bring down Europe then they are diminishing the United States
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so you you at least think that that was a possibility yes I think it's I think that
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I think it was not just a possibility I think it played a part in the decision making
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yeah and related to that in the context of that was the Nord Stream pipeline nuclear
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and with nuclear explosion was that well wanting to Europe in particular Germany it might have been
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I mean look I'm not going to discuss how it was done because I don't know I'm not an expert on
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this I know that that view exists I know that it is well supported obviously there's been I didn't
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know that actually but but we had I know it exists a physicist I know I know exactly I've heard about
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this uh this is this is exactly the point because you go out and discuss this publicly and well you
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you'll see what you you know what will happen it will be immediately suppressed so something that
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has that is out there can never be researched and investigated and discussed properly and if it's
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not true we need to know and it is true we absolutely need to know yeah sure so um very
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briefly so that people who are watching this video later they understand at least the background
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so we had a nuclear physicist I can't quite remember the name now I can't believe I've
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forgotten it but um yeah someone in the chat brown even sorry dr hans benjamin brown
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hans benjamin brown how could I forget so he proved in 12 different ways um that uh the Nord Stream
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pipeline explosion was a nuclear explosion um now but the swedes who detected Chernobyl first
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possibly because of the wind um you know there's an explosion taking place in Chernobyl um that
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that which possibly led to the the the end of the soviet union um the swede said nothing
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uh so essentially and yes everyone in europe must have known about but nobody mentioned that the
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there'd been a nuclear explosion in the center of europe and everybody kept quiet all the
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governments in in europe kept quiet and I thought whoa hang on this is treason they haven't told
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their people what occurred and so but was that a warning from the united states to europe
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uh to say look we can cause a nuclear explosion in in the center of europe which would be picked up
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by the swedes of course the swedes would definitely know about it but the germany should have known
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about it but they said nothing what we can pick wait a minute alexander so we can pick up we can
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cause a nuclear explosion in the center of europe putting all these countries at risk and all the
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people unknown risk um and you're not going to say anything about it well it is a very
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if it was done like that and and i have to say again i mean i i know that this theory is there
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but i i've not tested it but if if it is if it happened that way then this is a demonstration
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of power because that's what it would be yes which is unbelievably powerful and sinister
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i mean the the uh i mean this is this is this would be a terrible thing if it had happened and
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of course um it would absolutely tell us who is absolutely who is really in control
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yes and i'm not saying anything i'm just saying that this possibility was raised by one of the
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presenters um he was incredibly authentic he sent his research results all over the world to
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many many including the united nations but not just the united nations heads of governments i
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think governments were and nobody said anything nobody came back to him and that tells me that he
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was right well that's exactly the point because if he's wrong then we could have a public discussion
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we can have all the facts out there we can have uh uh i mean his his points can be refuted we can
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have proper debate and of course if that's not happening then that of course immediately
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begs the question why and it leads to the conclusion that you just stated
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yeah amazing so that's very interesting um so we're not saying that it did happen we're just
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saying it's a possibility and maybe someone needs to look for evidence that it did happen or blow
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the whistle in government you know someone must know something in particular in sweden because
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they were the ones who blew the whistle on chernobyl yes yes and if there's secrecy about this
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that that also needs to be explained i mean that's that is that is also something that needs to be
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explained by the way steven by the way that was an incredible comment on that yes you can large
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so large is swedish yes and uh when this happened i i went down to hans benjamin brown who is the
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professor that came with this theory and so i was in his his living room where he explained all the
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points that he had in his description of what the problem was he he is a fascinating person
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so i took that material to a professor in sweden who is a professor of theoretical physics
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you know nasa background etc definitely on our side he said he's revealing lots of things
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but he said oh my god i asked why aren't people commenting on this and he had six different
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different arguments for why this is complete bullshit look at this look at that look at his
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data there look at this look at that so i have a i have a 10 page response from him
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which i'm not really technically competent to put it on but those are his comments he said
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no one here would spend time on that it's just stupid so so i i think it's very important that
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somebody spends time on it because the person i'm talking about is a very qualified theoretical
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physicist so large why didn't you introduce that person to hans and then he could argue with him
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directly i've asked him to have a dialogue on our platform uh but he said oh it's just ridiculous
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so it's for him it's his question is who asked him to do this he he kind of goes one step beyond
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and said who wanted to have this out with such bad scientific background what what who is paying
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him to do this so large why didn't he engage with the hans himself if he was so certain of himself
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uh good question that's what i would have done but he has much more important things to do in
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in well what can be more important than that well well well that's my view i mean i mean
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putting one person off against i mean that's one thing but i mean there ought to be an open discussion
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um people can come i i i just i don't know this person who came on this program but bring him
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bring him out give him a give him his opportunity to state what he says and all of the scientific
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2:18:43
community if he's wrong they can actually come out and prove that he's wrong if the worry is
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that people are too naive and gullible and manipulate easily manipulated so that you know
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if the scientific facts are presented to them um you know that they'll they won't understand them
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i can say for an absolute fact that's nonsense that is absolute nonsense and it's it's people
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who say that obviously don't believe in juries elections democracy anything like because you can
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argue in any one of those fields that people are easily manipulated will lose their way they'll not
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understand the scientific facts and where does that lead you it leads you to the situation where
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you have a group of people who always say that they know everything and they must be accepted
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and no kind of dissent to what they say is acceptable so all i say is let's have it out
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there and have it properly debated and discussed and treat humanity with that respect which as
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humanity it marries that's all it's a very important question it has a large are large
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are you talking about neils herod no no no this is this is a swedish professor his his name is
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well herod i think neil's is swedish no he's danish oh he's danish yeah alexander um um
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liz truss was prime minister at this incredible time um and she um on the
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morning after the explosion i think it happened in the middle of the night didn't it um
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or two o'clock in the morning or something um and she said uh what was the thing she sent a text
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to someone i don't know how i know this we've done it leading people to believe that the uk had done
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it on behalf of the u.s maybe it was a text message to anthony blinken yeah thank you
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yeah so it looked as though it was done by the uk on behalf of the u.s otherwise how would how would
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liz truss know before anthony blinken before the united states government essentially so um and
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liz truss is very interesting because she was only in power for three weeks and so extensively the
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reason that she had to go was uh because she was um pushing some economic policy which wasn't
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popular and even she she's continuing to say that now and it may be the truth but the but also during
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that crazy period um the queen queen elizabeth second died in suspicious circumstances in my
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view um and um but we won't go into that uh so and now she's speaking out so she gets 115 000
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pounds a year as a former prime minister even though it was three weeks but i did think at
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the time was she brought in specifically for the nord stream pipeline explosion and was the reason
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that they didn't want to sit in prime minister having to answer questions about the nord stream
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pipeline explosion so get rid of her it's just unbelievable to me that uh you know they didn't
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know that she was going to say what she said about economics or whatever it was the budget of the
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crazy budget with your bank of england didn't like or whatever it was um um and so she they realized
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within three weeks and got rid of her so um the whole thing but now she's actually
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on our side in america using the money i presume to fund her stay in america if she's not got money
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of her own but yeah i i don't know what role rosen had or what role this list trust had and
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what she knows and what she doesn't know because of course she doesn't speak to me so how can i
1609
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know all i could say with any confidence but i think she would speak to you alexander well she
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probably she might do if one day we get in touch i'm not sure that she would by the way but who
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knows but the point i will say is this and you know i've already disclosed the fact that i know
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quasi quasi quatern and in fact i regard him as a friend just to say but i was not in contact with
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him at the time when he was chancellor or for some months before or for about two years after we've
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recently reestablished contact now i've not discussed what happened then with him either
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because obviously it's a difficult subject i just wanted to say that but at the time at the time
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i said on the duran that this is a plot that the whole business with list trust was the was a plot
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i actually went out and i said i perhaps you could remember but i said i smell a plot and i have no
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doubt about this because i have been i've worked in government i've been involved in plots and i've
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never engaged in plotting myself but i've had plots against me as i said many times in programs
1620
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i am a grizzled bureaucratic warrior i could recognize plotting when i saw it
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excellent so have you seen what list trust is saying in america now no oh well i recommend
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that you because she definitely gives the impression that she knows what she's talking
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and she has been the prime minister for three weeks um so um but she's really scathing about
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what's going on in the uk at the moment her audience is mostly american at the moment um
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i think she's trying to ingratiate herself in certain quarters but i have to say she's very
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interesting and i never expected to say that about list trust who i thought was vacuous and but well
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i i never thought she's vacuous i mean what i would simply say this she may be trying to
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ingratiate herself she might be doing all sorts of things for all kinds of reasons
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that doesn't mean that what she's saying isn't true i mean that's that's that's always the thing
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to bear in mind perhaps probably it is and she was prime minister for three weeks but she was
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also foreign secretary and she had other cabinet positions and we're talking about somebody who
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was at the heart of government for quite a long time and of course she did go to oxford and she
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did go to oxford absolutely yes so alexander um i don't want to uh kind of um you you've been
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very good to give us two and a half hours of your time very generous and we're very grateful to you
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but i think you know we don't want to overstay our welcome by questioning you until you drop
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so we'll let you um go i don't know where charles is he's gone off and maybe having a sleep um um
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um in australia i mean um yeah so um thank you so much for coming to speak to me my thanks to you
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and i thank you for listening to me for two and a half hours and um let's i i'd be delighted to
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come again if i could just say yes well i think you're very insightful you know i i did think
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you were really good last time but i i think you're exceptional today um and i don't remember
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thinking that's this isn't an insult by the way i just think it sometimes the meeting gets going
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you know because of various nobody knows why and um maybe it didn't get going quite as well as
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today but i think you've been so insightful beginning with the lecture on the law and
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you know you worked in as a barrister in the royal course of justice is that right absolutely
1645
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2:26:59
absolutely yes so you know a bit about the law i know the law very well i used to well i haven't
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2:27:05
been involved in it directly for some time now but absolutely one time i knew i knew the way the
1647
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2:27:11
system worked the machine i was inside the heart of the machine and i saw it work and i saw it how
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it works so there it is so thank you so much for coming to speak to us alexander i think you know
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um i've just done my best with this group it's um i didn't realize what you know i i didn't really
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value it to begin with um um and i didn't understand the importance but but yeah well it's a
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the group is a great achievement in itself and to repeat again what i said earlier in the program
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2:27:45
groups like this this group is making a difference of that i have absolutely no doubt
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2:27:53
so we should have some hope oh absolutely no question yeah so we've tried to be tenacious
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and carry on you know um until um we run out of guests and we don't seem to run out of guests so
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2:28:07
we've got some just so you know we've got some meredith miller um a week from now i think it is
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2:28:14
um who's an expert on psychological torture and um stockholm syndrome which i mentioned earlier
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2:28:22
and so she can talk about the whole covid narrative and how you know i think from personal
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experience she um uh she has an authenticity she's very very bright she's got insights that
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only someone who has suffered uh could have i think that's fair to say and i think she would
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agree with that i will look out and maybe i will try and join in though i may not be able to for
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very long and then we've got um we've got a german guy um german professor i think is a pathologist
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who's who um was working with arnold burkhardt uh the only problem is we need a a german um
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interpreter so if you can think of someone who could do a kind of a good enough job you know
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it doesn't have to be absolutely perfect um and i think i saw somebody putting up his hand
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oh zario zario could you do it can you speak german and english you guess you can can't you
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of course he can of course he can oh so zario will you do it then eleclander do you follow
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but do you follow candace owens yeah absolutely of course i do i was part of my work i have to
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absolutely yeah so we've got secret back to coming to speak to us as well because i asked him whether
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he knew anybody who could um translate the german from this professor who i think is you know it's
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the first time he's spoken to the english-speaking world and so that's important but we've also got
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um oh i can't remember we've got some really good guests before christmas right okay well i will look
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out and if i can join i will very good you'll get all the you'll get all the invitations i think
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you'll get all the invitations i think i i get i get all the all the all the invitations all the
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time and i read them all the time i obviously sorry that you get no no no no no please don't
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apologize i i'm always thinking about this group and i'm very happy very delighted to be invited
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again it's just that the raw demands of my time as i said i have my work and i have my family which
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obviously is very important to me anyway you should feel encouraged i think you have
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wonderful insights and you're very eloquent you're much more eloquent than i am
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oh you'll have to give me lessons well
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oh did you want to speak sir as ariel i just wanted to remind you um also that on the very
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next day there was also after the nord stream bombing there was also radoslav zikorsky who
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texted to the well done united states or thank you usa oh absolutely so so and on the very next day
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the pipeline which only delivered about 11 percent of the nord stream from norway to poland went
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online this is something that is not spoken about very often say this again zario on the very next
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day after nord stream was bombed the norsk pole stream pipeline went online from norway to poland
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it only has 11 capacity of what nord stream had but it still it went online
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wow just seeing i i so what can we conclude from that
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very good so zario can you um can you help with the with the uh translation of actually very best
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yeah so it just needs to be someone who will do his or her best um so we don't mind but but
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zario you'll be perfect you have a very very good knowledge of english and german yes
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german has become my mother tongue now actually almost the only problem is that there may be some
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medical terms and you're not familiar with this guy's work but but even so i think you'll be fine
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you know you'll make him feel at home and maybe we know the the terminology even in german you know
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we'll recognize it and i can i'll look it up on online while we're speaking in case just in case
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um do you know michael yohn by the way alexander i think i i i've come across the name i don't know
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yeah so he presented to us um uh the other day and he was amazing he he's lived in 99 countries
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lived and worked in 99 countries he's a war correspondent and he's a former green berry as
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well so he he knew about combat but he knew about reporting on wars as well oh wow okay gosh
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right may amazing he's in taiwan and he knows all about the chinese communist party
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china japan his wife is japanese and he is in he was in taiwan when he spoke to us yeah yes
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anyway well thank you again for having me on and as i said uh bearing with me i suppose for two
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and a half hours but i will be delighted to come again and i will certainly look up with these
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programs thank you oh just i have a real quick question if you don't mind of course please
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alexander by any chance hi my name is daria um by any chance do you have a sub stack channel yes we
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do sub stack that you ran on sub stack you can go there you can find it i even write it i've even
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switched it's been up very recently but we do i have been writing a few articles there okay yeah
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because i was gonna say michael yawn that steven just mentioned y-o-n he has why his subs
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steps well right okay yes so you might find it interesting to look at absolutely i have one too
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but it's really silly and alexander we haven't even asked you about what you think about trump
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sorry i said we haven't even asked you what we what you think about trump
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can you in one line say what you think about trump a a a flawed but very interesting man
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with heroics or with heroic qualities i agree with you yes and a wonderful ability to connect
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with other human beings absolutely yes that's and he understands um he understands betrayal
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and loyalty absolutely a man who destroys democracy i don't see that i don't see that
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i don't see him as a good man okay anyway alexander thank you so much for thank you
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thank you thank you steven yes have a good day bye bye
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so steven